Film in front of a TV instead of traveling

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  • Опубликовано: 21 май 2024
  • you can do this at home and it's not too expensive.

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  • @AtomicAgePictures
    @AtomicAgePictures Месяц назад +180

    I've been using a 47" tv sitting on a table, just outside the side windows of a car to do driving dialog scenes. So far no one has figured out that it's not real.

    • @mrhobs
      @mrhobs Месяц назад +3

      How do you find/create good footage (right angles/speed/etc) to go on the TV? This is a good idea that I may actually want to try

    • @AtomicAgePictures
      @AtomicAgePictures Месяц назад +31

      ​@@mrhobs I attached a dji osmo pocket camera to the side of my car and filmed from both directions, drivers side and passenger. As the pocket osmo doesn't really have shallow depth of field, I defocused the shots in post.

    • @heckensteiner4713
      @heckensteiner4713 Месяц назад +4

      I just figured it out. But only because you told me. 😉

    • @mrhobs
      @mrhobs Месяц назад +3

      @@AtomicAgePictures Hey man, that's a pretty straightforward method, thank you!

    • @mrhobs
      @mrhobs Месяц назад

      @@heckensteiner4713 Goofball. ha

  • @xamomax
    @xamomax Месяц назад +168

    You can get bezel hiding kits for monitors that could be useful. Sim racers use them for 3 monitor setups to help make the monitors look like one. Basically they are strips that blur the light from the two monitors to the side and combine the light into the strip.

    • @evilpigskin
      @evilpigskin Месяц назад +5

      Whoah! Do you have any links or a name for that? This is pretty pretty pretty useful

    • @ihebmaalaoui
      @ihebmaalaoui Месяц назад

      @@evilpigskin ruclips.net/video/MCib9bpdqJg/видео.html

    • @PeterVanKeer
      @PeterVanKeer Месяц назад +5

      Good tip, but as far as I know those are for smaller monitors only? Would be amazing though to have these for a 70" TV!

    • @Humcrush
      @Humcrush Месяц назад +5

      @@PeterVanKeer Couldn't you stack them to get the height you need?

    • @xamomax
      @xamomax Месяц назад +3

      @PeterVanKeer possibly, though theoretically they could work for any size. One thing I am unsure of is if the monitors have to be at a specific angle or if the trick will work at any angles including flat.

  • @foljs5858
    @foljs5858 Месяц назад +88

    "Film in front of a TV instead of traveling" 2024 economy in a nutshell

  • @B-Moye
    @B-Moye Месяц назад +34

    When I saw PotatoJets video my mind was completely blown and I love how versatile you all got with this, hiding the bezel, still having foreground elements and even the resolve set up is an added layer I hadn’t thought about

  • @jazzlehazzle
    @jazzlehazzle Месяц назад +29

    Modern spin on classic, traditional rear projection. Used in Hollywood since the 1930s. Battle-tested, tried-and-true.

    • @gefloigle
      @gefloigle Месяц назад +1

      Exactly what I was thinking.

    • @Blatantist
      @Blatantist Месяц назад

      disney still uses it to this day

    • @Blatantist
      @Blatantist Месяц назад

      i think they use massive screens now tho

    • @SagnikDasgupta
      @SagnikDasgupta Месяц назад

      Rear projections then, volumes now, TVs here.

  • @marsgizmo
    @marsgizmo Месяц назад +3

    Love this setup! Especially using Resolve for the quick adjustments! That's a great tip.

  • @yamikanikatunga1749
    @yamikanikatunga1749 Месяц назад +20

    “This is cheap stuff,” with three 75 inch TVs in the background. 😂
    You guys make amazing content.

    • @robertdouble559
      @robertdouble559 Месяц назад +9

      It's very cheap, comapred to a fully tricked out LED wall voume. The cost of building your own TV based setup is cheaper one a day renting a volume stage. Waaaaay cheaper. Let's say you plan to shoot a weeks worth of interviews, buy the 3 screens, do the shoot, flip the TVs on facebook marketplace, or return them to Amazon for a refund. If you're not getting paid for your work then yeah...everything is expensive. Another option would be to rent them from an AV hire company. I've worked on some i studio car interior shots for netwrok TV shows where the produciton have rented 4x 100" screens to do all of their drving shots over the course of a few days. Cost them next to nothing and it looked great. Buying or renting three or 4 TVs is negliagle for any of the jobs I would typically work on. Chump change.

    • @yamikanikatunga1749
      @yamikanikatunga1749 Месяц назад +6

      @@robertdouble559 this is actually a really good point. Thanks, for exposing me to the other side of the technical details and comparisons. 😃

    • @TheBaldr
      @TheBaldr 27 дней назад +2

      you can create the same thing with a so much cheaper projector.

  • @JulioBHJ
    @JulioBHJ Месяц назад +75

    That looked surprisingly good.

    • @EpicLightMedia
      @EpicLightMedia  Месяц назад

      Thanks!

    • @ciinelog
      @ciinelog Месяц назад +2

      @@EpicLightMedia Thomas have you ever tried to use this method, but with good quality projector as it can be budget friendly option for some situations, when someone can't afford expensive TV monitors

    • @GabrielFFontes
      @GabrielFFontes Месяц назад +2

      @@ciinelogi doubt a budget friendly projector would have nearly enough brightness to pass this off, but I’d love to see it tested out.

  • @mradriiiian
    @mradriiiian Месяц назад +123

    Post more regularly or I will subscribe.
    With notifications on!

  • @IMDABROWN
    @IMDABROWN Месяц назад +8

    Glad you guys are uploading videos. this was super fun and creative.

  • @daltonidaho
    @daltonidaho Месяц назад +7

    Absolutely professional end result, and such a great idea! This certainly got me thinking about the many possibilities with a setup like this.

  • @lawbossproductions1331
    @lawbossproductions1331 Месяц назад +7

    I watched your video last year re TV wall backdrop and copied your system. Works out well -- I use it to simulate a window view from a downtown office. Love your content!

  • @TyroneLT
    @TyroneLT Месяц назад +2

    I have access to a 77 inch TV. I definitely want to try this out. Thanks for this breakdown! You guys always make great stuff!

  • @odigskimedia4919
    @odigskimedia4919 Месяц назад +1

    I’m so happy another one dropped. I love your content

  • @jacoblopez2549
    @jacoblopez2549 Месяц назад +1

    Now that I work at a film studio, I’m definitely doing this now. Thank you for making that tutorial in the other video. Excited for this one.

  • @BenDurham
    @BenDurham Месяц назад +1

    This is SUCH a great idea! Excellent breakdown.

  • @clurkroberts2650
    @clurkroberts2650 Месяц назад +1

    This is a wonderful practical studio.

  • @BrianJurkowski
    @BrianJurkowski Месяц назад +2

    During the COVID lockdowns I saw a Twitter post of a news commentator working FROM HOME with a similar setup. She had only one large TV and the effect was perfect. I like what you've done here.

  • @MasonPayne
    @MasonPayne Месяц назад

    I think this setup is ridiculous… ridiculously awesome!

  • @7ombische
    @7ombische Месяц назад +3

    I've been using a 4K short throw projector with a 120" ALR screen for a virtual background for my wife's channel and client webinars. The challenge is that you really have to control light spilling onto the projector screen, and 120" is a little too small to give us more flexibility with getting a wider shot of the talent. I'm considering changing to a TV video wall for our new larger studio but no bezel TV's are very expensive. It might not be worth the extra cost.

  • @PranshuDhruv
    @PranshuDhruv Месяц назад

    iam glad you guys are back, much love

  • @markstevens1729
    @markstevens1729 Месяц назад +1

    What I can say is that when “cheap” in-studio shoots are this complex, leaving the studio is for the birds in any situation you can avoid it.
    All of which is why I chose radio over TV some 50 years ago.

  • @reynaldomercado
    @reynaldomercado Месяц назад +1

    Great setup. Big tv, good lighting and blur...don’t look hard to emulate. Thanks!

  • @PopTartHeaven
    @PopTartHeaven Месяц назад

    I could see myself actually doing a setup like this in the future. Great job guys!

  • @ckhicks
    @ckhicks 2 дня назад

    Looks fantastic, great work!

  • @Mr_Kenneth
    @Mr_Kenneth Месяц назад +1

    I think for most cases, especially creating social media ads, this looks fantastic. I'm looking at buying an 85" TV for our Christmas photoshoot

  • @Vitaphone
    @Vitaphone Месяц назад

    Glad you guys are back… Hope Thomas is ok, seems as bummed as he was In the last one❤

  • @PabloGarcia-sf7bn
    @PabloGarcia-sf7bn Месяц назад

    It looks awesome! Sparking off ideas as I type. Greetings from New Mexico!

  • @isnotkevin
    @isnotkevin Месяц назад

    I did use a tv as a background for a photo once and it came out great, so when I saw your suggestion to use it for video it just made sense.

  • @collierlandry
    @collierlandry Месяц назад +1

    The lighting on talent is 🔥. Well done!

  • @anoophothi
    @anoophothi Месяц назад

    This is brilliant and definitely giving mega expensive virtual production studios for SMEs a run for their money and MORE accessible to more ppl and companies!:)

  • @PlayedWith
    @PlayedWith Месяц назад

    We have been doing this in action figure photography for many years...cool to see it adapted to something else!

  • @radicalempire6599
    @radicalempire6599 Месяц назад +1

    Looks amazing. We use a short throw projector from time to time. The brightness is the only downside. But if you expose for the background it sort of works pretty good.

    • @OrigEntertainmentOfficial
      @OrigEntertainmentOfficial Месяц назад +1

      I looked into this. There is supposed to be some really, really good screen material that reflects alot of the light back. You might want to look into that.

  • @RLTPhoto
    @RLTPhoto Месяц назад +1

    looks like a great idea for simple talking head type shoots. The image was extremely convincing A+

  • @dinanm7
    @dinanm7 Месяц назад

    Philip Bloom did a great review of a TV where he posed this same option. The tighter the shot or larger the tv should get seamless.

  • @stevenhockaday914
    @stevenhockaday914 Месяц назад

    Very nice setup. Looks great and vastly improves your post processing time

  • @OccidentalonPurpose
    @OccidentalonPurpose Месяц назад

    Love this. Would be great setup for someone who shoots lots of a-roll interviews and standups. You could use backgrounds that are thematically in line with the b-roll without having to have subjects go on-location when they don't need to.

  • @IndyVisuals
    @IndyVisuals Месяц назад

    Turned out amazing

  • @ShaferScott
    @ShaferScott Месяц назад +4

    I recently started doing something similar, however I just use one 75 inch tv right behind me, so I don't need the white strips because I'm only using one tv.

    • @ytwatcher2021
      @ytwatcher2021 6 дней назад +1

      how do you do it with one and make it look good

  • @henrytheturnip
    @henrytheturnip Месяц назад

    I've been doing this for a few years now, a single 55" HD screen is brilliant for product video. Especially with transparent objects like glass where green-screening a background is next to impossible. Add a turntable and a few props and you're good to go.

  • @BravoCharlie
    @BravoCharlie Месяц назад

    Excellent. Thanks for the detail

  • @rangefreewords
    @rangefreewords Месяц назад

    I agree in LA at 5.65 an hour it lives in my head.

  • @kadafilm
    @kadafilm Месяц назад +3

    Epic Light Media doesn't question if this idea is crazy, they wonder if it's crazy enough!

  • @vegardpedersen
    @vegardpedersen Месяц назад

    Brilliant! Love this. I have used a single TV before for product shots, and it turned out decent. No the best TV so there was some problems with reflections and some light, and using Autofocus was a problem as it is flat, but the camera thinks it is more depth. Your result looks so clean and professional, great job :-)

  • @PopoRamos
    @PopoRamos Месяц назад +2

    I use a 4k ultra short throw projector. You can blow it up to 300 inches no problem, however it is much harder to control the lighting as any spill into the screen washes out the image. When setup right even gives you room to add a slider or go handheld for some parallax adding more to the realism

  • @talonsix
    @talonsix Месяц назад

    Great stuff guys. I'd love to hear more about clean plate capture for the video wall.

  • @bengibbs3299
    @bengibbs3299 Месяц назад

    Super cool! I defintely would want to try something like this out. I also like how simulating the TV provides some what would be natural ambient/colors onto the talent. Never liked the way green screen looks keyed with those edges that never quite look right.

  • @nawafilm
    @nawafilm Месяц назад

    I have worked with these type of virtual backgrounds using ultra short throw projectors. They have the advantage of enabling to shoot on a big 4 meter wide background but they are very susceptible to spill. Indeed using a lot of flags was crucial for those kind of setups pretty much what you are doing here.

  • @kribbage
    @kribbage Месяц назад +1

    I've seen -- for triple computer monitor setups -- people that use a prism/diffusor strip that goes between each screen and sort of blends the bezels out. Don't know if they make them big enough for tvs like that. Just one big screen I would think could be enough for smaller product shot setups too! EDIT: apparently the DIY way is to get a broken TV of the same size - has to be one that has a backlight with a fresnel lens layer - and cut that into strips and flex them until the bezel disapears. Those fresnels in old tvs can be interesting light mods in themselves 🤔

  • @adidasjoel17
    @adidasjoel17 Месяц назад

    i thought that looked really good! Outside of this video knowledge, if you just showed me that final output, there's no way i would have guess that. Nice job and thanks for the insights i might be able to use down the road :)

  • @amarucazenave
    @amarucazenave Месяц назад

    I love this set-up, we've just build a studio in a tiny room with 2 big screens behind our journalist and the guests, the result is just fantastic. We have to struggle with lights to avoid reflections on the screens, but the result is just amazing. The studio look like a big place on the top of building with a view of Paris

    • @EpicLightMedia
      @EpicLightMedia  Месяц назад +1

      Awesome! I’d love to see it

    • @amarucazenave
      @amarucazenave Месяц назад

      @@EpicLightMedia The first video will be uploaded in June, I can put a link a this moment if you want

  • @KevKlopper
    @KevKlopper Месяц назад

    I started to get into sim racing and they use a special tape to cover up the bezels, it refracts the light and creates a diffused border to the next screen. Maybe that works for you too!

  • @ngonzale3
    @ngonzale3 Месяц назад

    Definitely pro-level. Wonderfully done. It would be great to see a comparison between this and, say a 4k projector. If the cost isn't that much different than the tv's would be better.

  • @OrigEntertainmentOfficial
    @OrigEntertainmentOfficial Месяц назад

    We did this for a VFX shot of putting an actor in spaceship. We only have one large monitor set up in landscape. We found it worked fine with minimal blurring/bokeh. It does need some so you can't tell it's a screen. Separately, consider blurring the background in photoshop. I am not sure how that will look but might be worth exploring.

  • @superjunaid
    @superjunaid Месяц назад

    I love this!

  • @MrNobodyX3
    @MrNobodyX3 Месяц назад

    You can get one of those backlit things for a TVs where it lights up the wall behind it and all around and use that as your light around your subject to mimic the environment that you're showing on the screen

  • @blainemitchell
    @blainemitchell Месяц назад

    It looks fantastic. I didn't really understand how the ipad to the wall works, but it does so...

  • @BlaineWestropp1
    @BlaineWestropp1 Месяц назад

    Great way to cover the seams 👌

  • @xanhetu6034
    @xanhetu6034 Месяц назад

    This is great. I just did some video trainings using a greenscreen and AI. Looks very close to this, I'd say your lighting technique is way better than what I accomplished. Well done.

    • @xanhetu6034
      @xanhetu6034 Месяц назад

      P.s I was inspired by the video you did last year which helped tremendously.

  • @christianl151
    @christianl151 Месяц назад

    You guys could use one of those lenticular sheets that people use as "invisibility shields" to better blend the screens together and hide those bezels, look up some images, I think it might work well with this setup.
    Would give you the benefit of not having to change the colored bezel covers for different scenes.

  • @pglazzari1
    @pglazzari1 Месяц назад +1

    It looks really good. What were your thoughts on a projector

  • @WanderFeetChronicles
    @WanderFeetChronicles Месяц назад

    I’ve been using my iMac 27” as a backdrop (along with my iPad Pro 12.9” as a floor) for Star Wars toy
    Photography for years now - so much easier and safer for me to shoot at home, where I can control everything, than out in the real world trying to find locations to suit the figures I shoot.
    -
    It’s a life saver, a time saver, a money saver and a biggest thing saved is MY SANITY!!!

  • @Moustafa11
    @Moustafa11 Месяц назад

    This looks great. I’m curious if a short-throw projector would work as well and potentially have a larger and seamless screen.

  • @Cameronpov
    @Cameronpov Месяц назад

    They make bezel hiding strips you can put between two monitors. They reflect the image over the bezel making it almost disappear if you're not focused on it. I don't know if they make them big enough to use for what you're doing though.

  • @OdiumTV
    @OdiumTV Месяц назад

    a short throw projector accomplishes similar results, although without the ability to mimic the gloss of a window. that and a high quality projector might be more expensive than three cheap screens, especially considering longevity

  • @JavierMercedes
    @JavierMercedes Месяц назад

    amazing video as always

  • @izytang
    @izytang Месяц назад +1

    Have you considered integrating Unreal Engine into the setup and placing a gyro-sensor on the camera? You could upgrade to doing real-time dynamic backgrounds and even (some) handheld moving shots. That could open it up so you're not confined to just locked off shots with static backgrounds. Though, for the locked/static stuff, it looks pretty good - the attention to lighting sells it.

  • @spybloodjr
    @spybloodjr Месяц назад +1

    I love this break down! thank you! How do you think a 4k laser projector would work as an alternative rear projection?

  • @TayWoode
    @TayWoode Месяц назад

    Haha I’ve done similar with a few TVs for my Christmas displays disguising one as snow falling outside a window, one for a fireplace etc, same for halloween with ghosts floating up and clouds passing a full moon

  • @benjaminpeternorris
    @benjaminpeternorris Месяц назад +2

    That's really cool!! - I just wondered if using rear projection you can get the same effect, without the bezels? We used to use rear projection for events we ran years ago, not sure if anyone uses it for video backdrops these days though!

  • @mrwayne8018
    @mrwayne8018 Месяц назад

    Love it! I wonder how these compare with a laser projector. I would like to add this to my home studio but not sure what it would get the best results

  • @awoodfinz
    @awoodfinz Месяц назад

    I've used this technique commercial... It's possible to achieve good results with only one 65 inch TV. Especially if you're shooting objects smaller than human size like for example product shots

  • @alphabravocheescake3527
    @alphabravocheescake3527 Месяц назад

    A 4k laser projector would be a great investment.

  • @yeknommonkey
    @yeknommonkey Месяц назад

    The Disney ‘volume’ for mini studios.

  • @CasalREC
    @CasalREC Месяц назад

    Amazing

  • @ianbrown4242
    @ianbrown4242 Месяц назад +1

    It still looks composited, though. The talent doesn't look like it's lit by the background environment. I suppose it's faster, but it sure doesn't look any better.

    • @cerumen
      @cerumen Месяц назад

      My understanding is it’s an alternative to compositing for productions that do not really require 100% realistic lighting and want a quick turnaround, although people claim this method also works well for ‘outdoor’ dialogue scenes like driving, the use of video walls in Mandalorian (I guess natural daylight must be easier to approximate in those setups?)

  • @stoneybowmann
    @stoneybowmann Месяц назад

    It's pretty limited for what you can do, size-wise. It's great for that specific scenario. Add in a second camera, wide angle, two people... and you are going to be hitting roadblocks. But for a medium headshot, single camera... looks great.

  • @darrenorange2982
    @darrenorange2982 Месяц назад

    So you depth if field issue, just add blur to the image to fine tune then you can accomplish pretty much anything. And use a cut up plastic Lenticular lens to help hide the seem and tiny amount of depth of field and you've got a better look. Great idea keep it up. Just used a projector for something similar.

  • @FAMEAcademyNY
    @FAMEAcademyNY Месяц назад

    Genius!!!

  • @memostothefuture
    @memostothefuture Месяц назад

    Intriguing. I do that for news hits with one TV at times. (e.g. in bad weather)

  • @ThePlaceForThings
    @ThePlaceForThings Месяц назад

    going to try this for a major league paintball documentary

  • @manuel0689
    @manuel0689 Месяц назад

    You need something like a Asus Freekit bezel adapter for triple monitor extension but larger for your tv. that would remove the need to change those trims when switching to green screens.

  • @Ausqualitystock
    @Ausqualitystock Месяц назад

    You reckon a good brand short throw projector on a white wall would reach these levels of brightness?? I've seen some projector stuff and it's good for lower light backgrounds, but I'm guessing it wouldn't be bright enough for this kind of background.

  • @headamuse
    @headamuse Месяц назад

    I'd look into fresnel layer inside of a broken TV and cut out strips to cover those bezels.

  • @222jojo
    @222jojo Месяц назад

    you could use a good quality UST projector and if setup correctly you could have the projector behind the person and you don't have to worry about any bezel lines or other things associated with 3 large tv's.

  • @SystemParanoia
    @SystemParanoia Месяц назад

    Great idea. You could probably get away with just the one TV if you used a much longer lens 200mm+
    But ofcourse then you would run out of space!

  • @benjaminjackson8663
    @benjaminjackson8663 Месяц назад

    To solve the bezels in more scenarios, why not just use 1 tv in horizontal position and bring it close enough to camera to fill the BG? You can even blur the image _itself_ as much as you need to make up for the reduced in-camera blur. What you did with the 3 tvs + bevel hiders obviously worked just fine, but this way you wouldn't have to deal with that every single time you use this CU setup.

  • @chriss2295
    @chriss2295 Месяц назад

    In the 80s we would conversations about this. ILM has billions and can do cutting edge. The real power is when tech gets into masses. A few good tvs is pricey, but this is magical stuff we could only dreamed of. This one of them the most transformative techs in the business that I get giddy about. I use it whenever we can because it’s easy and cost effective.

  • @ErisedMediaCo
    @ErisedMediaCo Месяц назад

    Looks great. I think a high quality high lumen short throw projector along with a screen that cancels off axis light would be a better/easier solution though. You could have up to a 150” screen with a single source so you don’t have to line them all up and get them in sync and a bigger screen. Just need it to be around 3,000 ANSI lumens and it should work fine.

    • @jamesepiclight
      @jamesepiclight Месяц назад

      We've been curious about those short throw projectors. Our biggest issue with any projector is if any ambient light reaches the screen, the blacks in the background become lifted towards grays and it has a washed out feel. The TV's don't do that the same way, but we do have to work around reflections...

  • @CreativeIsolation
    @CreativeIsolation Месяц назад

    It’s slick. Would a projector work for this? Or not bright enough?

  • @DamnnnDarius
    @DamnnnDarius Месяц назад

    Looks good, that's all that matters

  • @crs.rojas90
    @crs.rojas90 Месяц назад

    Would be very interesting to see a video with a business point of view breakdown of this idea. I imagine only those with recurring clients who need this type of video should considering investing in something like this ? Or perhaps the sole fact of owning a studio like the is could be a competitive advantage?

  • @AllThingsFilm1
    @AllThingsFilm1 Месяц назад

    This is a great idea. I have a 42" plasma TV that I might try this out on. It would be good for my YT videos when I'm talking to the camera. So, I can replace my messy bachelor apartment with a professional looking RUclips studio. 🙂

  • @pickleydoo
    @pickleydoo Месяц назад

    I do this for product photos and it is great, but my dream is to move to a short throw projector setup.

  • @personofinternet682
    @personofinternet682 Месяц назад +1

    great nifty idea! do one with a projector. report if it is any better/worse.thanks!!

  • @GuamPhotographer
    @GuamPhotographer Месяц назад

    i wanna try doing this! :-)

  • @eversparx
    @eversparx Месяц назад

    Amazingly useful video - thanks much for sharing your experience/know-how!
    Bigger background is better, but, but mind if I ask why you went 3-panel configuration over a single 98” (86”x49”) with no hide-the-seams worries? (…But slightly tighter shots on the talent for sure!)
    Cheers

  • @leon-fuchs
    @leon-fuchs Месяц назад

    Another great video! Thanks guys! One important question for me is:
    What kind of TV can be used here? What do I have to pay attention to here? LCD, OLED,...

    • @EpicLightMedia
      @EpicLightMedia  Месяц назад

      These were cheap lcd TVs you can just use cheap ones

  • @retrorollerboy
    @retrorollerboy Месяц назад

    Heyho, did you buy the screens with glossy or with matte surface ?

  • @michaelbuddy
    @michaelbuddy Месяц назад

    outstanding