@@jakethenecromorph I mean, you have Winston in an attempt to portray an "everyman," but these days it just reads as a characterless token black person tbh. I do greatly appreciate that he is plot integral to the revival from a monetary aspect to the in universe group, and I haven't seen the latest movie yet, but he still feels incredibly hollow and underutilized.
me and kids love Ghostbusters, i remember when my dad first showed me ghostbusters in the late 80's and of course alot of jokes went over my head as a kid but i remember being hooked because of the type of movie it is, as i got older and watched this movie when i can understand the jokes more ( in my late teens) i can agree that Ghostbusters is the best comedy out there even now in my 40's i can still watch this movie and laugh and enjoy it to its fullest as if i was that kid again watching it for the first time. this will be the 3rd time me and my kids cosplay Ghostbusters as well and im building another proton pack!!!
Yeah I agree, my wife made the same comment about missing some of the jokes as a kid. That made it fun to watch as an adult though because the jokes finally clicked. I had a proton pack toy as a kid, that thing was awesome!
@@jakethenecromorphwe agree. We did a video on Afterlife which we will release at a later time. It was fantastic. It's my 2nd favorite in the Ghostbusters franchise.
I do like Afterlife, I think I actually rank it as my second favorite personally. I felt way more engaged with it than Frozen Empire, which I think had flashes but it just never reaches the levels of those other two.
Shouldn't have to, just make it good on their own aside from a failure in 2016 they have been good movies, not the original but fun. Movie versions of the TV show, good, not the same but good
I couldn't really remember Ghostbusters 2, so when we rewatched it recently to review, it was like a new movie to me. I was surprised at how good it was given the mixed reviews I had heard about it. I thought it was pretty entertaining
The romance is underdeveloped - but if you compare the scene where he checks out Dana's apartment and the scene at the fountain, Peter's whole demeaner and approach is different. In her apartment it's all about him and his ego. They could have had a scene (at the fountain) where he appologises, where he admits all the creepy things he did and says a bunch of words. Instead, he actually changes his behavior. It's subtle -- but when Dana chuckles at him, it's because she is genuinly charmed. she is see's that for this odd man, this is him making a genuine attempt to change, to be different, to be a better version of himself. Instead of walking all over her bounderies full speed ahead, he is showing her as much respect as he can, making attempts at genuine compliments that notice things about her and things that she values about herself. He is showing that he is making an effort to actually take an interest in her and her case and what he can do to genuinly be of value to her. At her apartment he is relentless and insistant. At the fountain he defers and shows that he is willing to respect her decision making agency. He is not a completely transformed person like his arc at the end of Groundhog Day, but he is -- maybe for the first time in his life -- actually making an effort, and that is both genuinly flattering and also endering to Dana. (Then of course there is his behavior that we get to observe when he shows up for the date to find her possesed by Zull, but that maybe doesn't count because she may not have much memory of it) Two short scenes is not a lot to make a romantic arc out of, but if you compare them side by side you can see that is the arc for what it's worth and you can see that Dana see's the change in him.
That's a great point, I hadn't thought about contrasting those two scenes that way. I can see what you mean. I'll be curious to watch that part again now!
I don't know y'all's names (I found this video organically), but the first guy's intro about Ghostbusters is uhh basically my exact internal monologue of Ghostbusters 1984. :) It's the writing and the delivery and the chemistry between the actors (and the cinematography, and the directing, and the music, I could go on...). But I also agree that the romance wasn't earned! I try not to think of it, out of nostalgia for this movie (which is my all-time favorite movie), but it stands out to younger generations who watch this for the first time, which I think is interesting. My internal canon is that Dana's been courted by genius men who were hypercritical, dull, or just a drag, and she's busting (excuse the pun) out of her habit with this kooky - but smart and funny - wacko.
That's awesome! I love the backstory you've given Dana! I could see that being the case. I love these old practical FX too, even if they're not necessarily realistic. They have charm to them.
I never thought the Dana/Venkman thing worked in terms of lines/plot. It worked because of the sheer presence of the two actors involved - you the audience member would easily fall for either of them - but plot / characterisation wise? No way would Dana put up with that guy. Absolutely no way. Not even in a 'god I nearly died' hormone surge.
That's how I felt! I didn't feel like she warmed up enough towards him to justify them getting together. That's the one tweak that could have made the film better, if he hadn't actually won her over yet and they got together in the sequel. But I suppose they didn't know what they had yet and if there would ever be a sequel
The jokes are situational. Like the guys scooting an inch away from a nuclear backpack. Or Peter ignoring that one of his subjects might have telepathic abilities to hit on a hot blonde chick. I watched this five times in the theater as a kid.
Haha yes I loved that comedic style! I remember wondering if Peter was actually a genius psychologist who was just distracted by women, or if he was a hack lol! Can't say I ever figured it out but the whole mystery and the comedy drew me into the scene.
Funnniest movie of all time? Most quotable? I found Ghostbusters very funny and a very enjoyable movie but have you ever seen Monty Python and the Search for the Holy Grail??? that movie was funny from the opening credits to the very end. As far as quotes, almost every line in the movie was quotable! Ghostbusters was a great movie but not the funniest and certainly not the most quotable!
Rick Moranis is a gem. He was brilliant in Spaceballs, another great comedy.
He is iconic. I wish we had more movies from him. He had quite a career but he definitely went at his own pace. Good for him though I guess!
I really love that Ray is a geek and yet looks normal next to the nerd that is Egon while Peter is 80s definition of cool.
You forgot Winston
@@jakethenecromorph I mean, you have Winston in an attempt to portray an "everyman," but these days it just reads as a characterless token black person tbh. I do greatly appreciate that he is plot integral to the revival from a monetary aspect to the in universe group, and I haven't seen the latest movie yet, but he still feels incredibly hollow and underutilized.
Yeah, they each had such distinct personalities. I think that really brought an interesting dynamic to the film.
me and kids love Ghostbusters, i remember when my dad first showed me ghostbusters in the late 80's and of course alot of jokes went over my head as a kid but i remember being hooked because of the type of movie it is, as i got older and watched this movie when i can understand the jokes more ( in my late teens) i can agree that Ghostbusters is the best comedy out there even now in my 40's i can still watch this movie and laugh and enjoy it to its fullest as if i was that kid again watching it for the first time. this will be the 3rd time me and my kids cosplay Ghostbusters as well and im building another proton pack!!!
Yeah I agree, my wife made the same comment about missing some of the jokes as a kid. That made it fun to watch as an adult though because the jokes finally clicked. I had a proton pack toy as a kid, that thing was awesome!
As the RLM guys have said when reviewing every shitty modern Ghost Busters: "The original is lightning in a bottle." You can't copy it.
Absolutely!
Hey you are wrong ghost busters after life is an amazing movie
@@jakethenecromorphwe agree. We did a video on Afterlife which we will release at a later time. It was fantastic. It's my 2nd favorite in the Ghostbusters franchise.
I do like Afterlife, I think I actually rank it as my second favorite personally. I felt way more engaged with it than Frozen Empire, which I think had flashes but it just never reaches the levels of those other two.
Shouldn't have to, just make it good on their own aside from a failure in 2016 they have been good movies, not the original but fun. Movie versions of the TV show, good, not the same but good
Greatest film ever made period!!! My favorite and gb2 is a solid sequel.
I couldn't really remember Ghostbusters 2, so when we rewatched it recently to review, it was like a new movie to me. I was surprised at how good it was given the mixed reviews I had heard about it. I thought it was pretty entertaining
The romance is underdeveloped - but if you compare the scene where he checks out Dana's apartment and the scene at the fountain, Peter's whole demeaner and approach is different. In her apartment it's all about him and his ego.
They could have had a scene (at the fountain) where he appologises, where he admits all the creepy things he did and says a bunch of words. Instead, he actually changes his behavior. It's subtle -- but when Dana chuckles at him, it's because she is genuinly charmed. she is see's that for this odd man, this is him making a genuine attempt to change, to be different, to be a better version of himself. Instead of walking all over her bounderies full speed ahead, he is showing her as much respect as he can, making attempts at genuine compliments that notice things about her and things that she values about herself. He is showing that he is making an effort to actually take an interest in her and her case and what he can do to genuinly be of value to her. At her apartment he is relentless and insistant. At the fountain he defers and shows that he is willing to respect her decision making agency.
He is not a completely transformed person like his arc at the end of Groundhog Day, but he is -- maybe for the first time in his life -- actually making an effort, and that is both genuinly flattering and also endering to Dana. (Then of course there is his behavior that we get to observe when he shows up for the date to find her possesed by Zull, but that maybe doesn't count because she may not have much memory of it)
Two short scenes is not a lot to make a romantic arc out of, but if you compare them side by side you can see that is the arc for what it's worth and you can see that Dana see's the change in him.
That's a great point, I hadn't thought about contrasting those two scenes that way. I can see what you mean. I'll be curious to watch that part again now!
I don't know y'all's names (I found this video organically), but the first guy's intro about Ghostbusters is uhh basically my exact internal monologue of Ghostbusters 1984. :) It's the writing and the delivery and the chemistry between the actors (and the cinematography, and the directing, and the music, I could go on...). But I also agree that the romance wasn't earned! I try not to think of it, out of nostalgia for this movie (which is my all-time favorite movie), but it stands out to younger generations who watch this for the first time, which I think is interesting. My internal canon is that Dana's been courted by genius men who were hypercritical, dull, or just a drag, and she's busting (excuse the pun) out of her habit with this kooky - but smart and funny - wacko.
That's awesome! I love the backstory you've given Dana! I could see that being the case. I love these old practical FX too, even if they're not necessarily realistic. They have charm to them.
@@moviesarespiritual Oh for sure!!
ghost busters 2, when he says "You never studied."
Haha!
Only if you know those characters can you write it well.
I never thought the Dana/Venkman thing worked in terms of lines/plot. It worked because of the sheer presence of the two actors involved - you the audience member would easily fall for either of them - but plot / characterisation wise? No way would Dana put up with that guy. Absolutely no way. Not even in a 'god I nearly died' hormone surge.
That's how I felt! I didn't feel like she warmed up enough towards him to justify them getting together. That's the one tweak that could have made the film better, if he hadn't actually won her over yet and they got together in the sequel. But I suppose they didn't know what they had yet and if there would ever be a sequel
The jokes are situational. Like the guys scooting an inch away from a nuclear backpack. Or Peter ignoring that one of his subjects might have telepathic abilities to hit on a hot blonde chick. I watched this five times in the theater as a kid.
Haha yes I loved that comedic style! I remember wondering if Peter was actually a genius psychologist who was just distracted by women, or if he was a hack lol! Can't say I ever figured it out but the whole mystery and the comedy drew me into the scene.
Funnniest movie of all time? Most quotable? I found Ghostbusters very funny and a very enjoyable movie but have you ever seen Monty Python and the Search for the Holy Grail??? that movie was funny from the opening credits to the very end. As far as quotes, almost every line in the movie was quotable! Ghostbusters was a great movie but not the funniest and certainly not the most quotable!
The Holy Grail is truly great! Yeah, comedy is hard because there are so many different types of comedy too.
British comedy. But let us have a quote off and see who wins there.
I, too, believe the love story ending was not at all earned.