Most of the pictures of the Imperator Somnium is from my mod (Skalgrim Mod) for Battle Fleet Gothic Armada 2. Its playable (just as is the Bucephalus, altough its renamed as the Lux Imperator and 150 other added ships) in the campaign and skirmish mode.
Great mod btw for anyone Who enjoys battlefleet gothic armada, some BIG ships made by skalgrim that are great fun to play with! Also without your mod I wouldn't have the pics for this vid so thanks for your work man, it's greatly appreciated!
I smiled when I found out Emps named a flagship after his horse from 300 BC that nobody in M30 would understand. Maybe he does have a human heart after all.
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The Emperor boasting his ship is so large it has it's own gravitional field, whilst being a man of science knowing full well that anything with mass has a gravitational field.
writers and scientific understanding do not mix. I often fill these kinds of phrases in particular in as "soo big it had a noticeable gravitational pull to a human body"
@@rudolfnv6666 worst one I've seen was a book where this multi km size ship whipping around a 1/2 light year size nebula flying like a fighter ... All at traveling at a few hundreds of C the speed of lights. At that speed it would have just blown past it so fast you'd barely see it
My theory is that the Bucephalus was destroyed or damaged beyond repair during the Rangdan xenocides. The Emperor the built his second ship either from scratch or incorporating the original hull of the Bucephalus into the Imperator Somnium
4:02 about the ship the emperor descends in i always assumed it was some sort of personal dropship or something that the emperor makes planetfall in, as theres no way a ship of the size you get in 40k could land on a planet. much less, a ship with its own gravitational field
I always assumed that the ship that lands in Descent of Angels was just a dropship carrying the Emperor not the Bucephalus itself, as that was near the size of a continent and would have caused major ecological disasters just by entering the atmosphere
I always assumed the Bucephalus was the ship the Emperor descended to Olympus Mons on Mars in, so there’s a description of it at the beginning of the Horus heresy book Mechanicum
I mean, when its said that the emperors ship descended to calidan, it could just be that the emperor has a smaller vessel that was docked with the Bucephalus that he took.
Funfact, Bucephalos is supposed to be pronounced BuKefalos, not BuSefalos, as the word is Greek, not Latin, where the softening of C does not happen (neither did it in Classical Latin, but that is another question 🙃)
The hard c vs soft c is so inconsistent in 40K. Just a couple example, "C'tan" is hard C, "Cicatrix" is soft C followed by hard C. If they were consistant, it could be pronounced like Cicero, so "sisatrix", but I guess that sounds too silly 😅
@@maxstr The "SiKatrix" pronunciation is actually consistent with the Ecclesiastic Latin (in essence: medieval Latin) pronunciation, where the C, before E or I softened to "s" or "ch" or "ts" (depending on the region, but in Western Europe, and as such, most of the Anglophone world the "S" is the most common), and this is how it survived into modern Italian, too. This is how most people today would understand Latin (High Gothic, I mean :)), as _Latin_. However Classical Latin ("real" Latin-Latin, if you will :)) did not have this phenomenon and they have pronounced it as "KiKatrix", which sounds just as odd as "KiKero" does for "Cicero", but here we are... 🙃
@@Angelimir thanks for your response. So is the C and S interchangeable? For example why is Ceasar not spelled Ceacer or Seacer.(ugh that looks awful), or Cicero spelled Cisero or Sicero? They are both from the same time period after all. Also, words with the S and a hard C also existed, like Secundus but that's never spelled Cecundus right ?
@@maxstr not quite. The C switches to S in pronunciation only if it is followed by a "high pitch" vowel, ie I or E. But, as I mentioned, this phenomenon occurred only during the Middle Ages, when the speakers of Latin were not the Romans, but all sort European people. In the first century BC, the Romans did not have this, and basically invariably pronounced these names as "Kikero" and "Kaesar".
@@skalgrimfellaxe5796 I was thinking about perhaps models the size of model ships :) I wasn't around by the time of BFG, so its either 3d prints or very pricy discontinued metal models I feel, but I would 100% be in if it ever returned.
I've always wondered quite a few things about the Big Gaffer in Gold. One of them comes from the HH novel Mechanicum in which it says the Big E fought the C'Tan called the Void Dragon on earth, giving rise to the story of George and the Dragon or some other parable. It strongly implies the Void Dragon was too powerful for the Big E to vanquish outright, so he instead imprisoned it in the Noctis Labryrinth on Mars. My question is how on earth did the Big E manage to take the Dragon to Mars during the Dark Ages?
Apparently Constantine Valdor has the Imperator Somnium Bucephalus was crippled during the siege of Terra and impacted the planet leaving a massive crater on the planet.
IIRC, there is a description of the Bucephalus landing on Mars when the Emperor first visited and made the alliance with the AdMech. Golden, massive and decorated to an absurd degree. The Buchephalus is part of Battlefleet Solar and is still active.
Aaah must have missed that description and the bit about the Bucephalus still serving in Battlefleet Solar, thanks for the info! Do you know in what books this is mentioned?
@@HighKhan40k Cannot recall, but I know that Custodes operate it and it is seconded to BattleFleet Solar whenever needed. Also, I recall Bucephalus being described as every single plate of it being engraved with wonderful art.
And on that very day and at that very moment the emperors hopes and dreams died, what was once a symbol of humanity’s might and knowledge, now replaced by fear and ignorance
When it comes to Ships they could tie up plot holes by saying its the same Ship renamed as happens in the real world when a ship changes owner or sometimes after a refit
Wait ! So 3 FULL legions with and their primarchs were in danger of losing ?! Holy fcking Waghhhh. The Buchepalus would make a mighty fine vessel for a secert order of Marines dedicated to just fighting Chaos 😉
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As soon as I saw the title of this video I thought to myself oh yeah he should have that. But also makes me wonder what else the emperor has in terms of custom weapons.
While the whole battle was pretty cool, I always wondered why the Imperator didn't make a beeline for the Vengeful Spirit. I feel like a lot of things would've gotten solved real fast that way. Still, epic as hell. XD
Maybe, but I think Horus would have protected the Vengeful Spirit with his new warp powers somehow, and also towards the end of the siege we can see that more than a ship the Vengeful Spirit was more like Horus' Chaos Realm, so again I think both Horus and the Chaos Gods wouldn't allow anything to harm It, and idk if anything could at that time tbh xD but yeah it would have been epic to try anyway hhahaha
I hate that description of "its own gravitational field" my brother a single ant has a gravitational pull, literally anything ever has gravity or is affected by it. That description tells me nothing of the size of a ship. Something more fitting would be "it could interfere the orbits of nearby celestial objects" that would be a quite gargantuan ship
I think it would be cool if they were all 1 big robot kinda like power Rangers accept one would be a key and the giant robot made of the primarchs flagships and the emporor ship would be the only thing big enough to use and turn the key that opens up maybe like a blackstone fortress of the subway or who knows what a big robot
The Ark Mechanicus are the most advanced and powerful vessels of the Imperium. They literally contain STC AI inside of them, like the Speranza from the Priests of Mars novels. It was a ship from the Dark Age that was never completed and they found it in a near-finished state on some planet (or more like part of the planet). That sucker had some kind of time-shift weapon 😅
The Emperor assumed multiple figures throughout history, and while it is not cited which, and combined with the severe loss of historical data, the Emperor could had been ANY famous figure.
I know I am no fun at parties... but absolutely everything has its own gravity field. Electrons have their own gravity. Sure it is weak af but they do have it. Saying something has a magnetic field is meaningless .. you need to give some kind of scale for comparison. Also.. if they have gravity technology for inside the ship they also have anti-gravity technology and getting on and off a planet would theoretically be no issue at all... Thank you coming to my TED talk Also....how many times can you say INDEED in one video?
Hmm I'm no scientist xd but I Guess they meant It was so Big as to attract other ships around It with its gravety, kind of like how a Planet does, allowing other ships to orbit around It? Not sure if this makes sense either from a scientific perspective, but I'm guessing that's what the Lore is going for. Yeah, I need to use more synonyms I Guess haha sorry about that, although being bilingual I've spent most of my life in Spain and mostly Talk in Spanish so sometiemes my English gets a bit rusty like that, but I'll try to use a richer vocab in the future, thanks for the feedback ;)
@@HighKhan40k Sure.. but that is the point Everything attracts everything else. I am attracting you right now. An electron is attracting the sun.. its is a miniscule immeasurable about..but it happens. Everything has SOME gravity. And that is just a function of how heavy it is. Saying something has a strong magnetic pull just means its really really heavy :)
Most of the pictures of the Imperator Somnium is from my mod (Skalgrim Mod) for Battle Fleet Gothic Armada 2. Its playable (just as is the Bucephalus, altough its renamed as the Lux Imperator and 150 other added ships) in the campaign and skirmish mode.
Great mod btw for anyone Who enjoys battlefleet gothic armada, some BIG ships made by skalgrim that are great fun to play with! Also without your mod I wouldn't have the pics for this vid so thanks for your work man, it's greatly appreciated!
It's an awesome mod my friend!
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@@josiahjensen9651Nice to hear. Im working on a small update atm. Will add a few new ships, but is mostly rebalance and fixing some stuff.
I smiled when I found out Emps named a flagship after his horse from 300 BC that nobody in M30 would understand. Maybe he does have a human heart after all.
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The emps has many human hearts, especially depending on his origins and if he founded the Aztec religion.
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The Emperor boasting his ship is so large it has it's own gravitional field, whilst being a man of science knowing full well that anything with mass has a gravitational field.
Ayup, this right here, a ship the size of an ant.
So big it had its own gravitational field. Holy shit, that's at least.. one atom damn
"that's no moon"
writers and scientific understanding do not mix. I often fill these kinds of phrases in particular in as "soo big it had a noticeable gravitational pull to a human body"
@@rudolfnv6666 worst one I've seen was a book where this multi km size ship whipping around a 1/2 light year size nebula flying like a fighter ... All at traveling at a few hundreds of C the speed of lights. At that speed it would have just blown past it so fast you'd barely see it
I had a cat named Buchephalus, bout 10 years ago. He was a Russian Blue and was probably bigger than this ship.
My theory is that the Bucephalus was destroyed or damaged beyond repair during the Rangdan xenocides. The Emperor the built his second ship either from scratch or incorporating the original hull of the Bucephalus into the Imperator Somnium
4:02 about the ship the emperor descends in i always assumed it was some sort of personal dropship or something that the emperor makes planetfall in, as theres no way a ship of the size you get in 40k could land on a planet. much less, a ship with its own gravitational field
Yeah that makes much more sense tbh xD
In one of the books it said it’s left out side of planetary system because it effects the gravity of systems.
that's a much more sensible approach
A shuttle craft or launch
I always assumed that the rain and other odd effects were caused by how close his flagship got to the surface, even if it didn't touch down itself.
You touched my boat, your not going to create anime 40,000.0 so said the emperor
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I always assumed that the ship that lands in Descent of Angels was just a dropship carrying the Emperor not the Bucephalus itself, as that was near the size of a continent and would have caused major ecological disasters just by entering the atmosphere
I always assumed the Bucephalus was the ship the Emperor descended to Olympus Mons on Mars in, so there’s a description of it at the beginning of the Horus heresy book Mechanicum
Since your first vid i always want to know about the Emperor Somnium, ty x this material
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I mean, when its said that the emperors ship descended to calidan, it could just be that the emperor has a smaller vessel that was docked with the Bucephalus that he took.
Aye, it just says "the emperor's ship". And if the bucephalus is as large as they imply, surely it had some kind of landing craft aboard
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Funfact, Bucephalos is supposed to be pronounced BuKefalos, not BuSefalos, as the word is Greek, not Latin, where the softening of C does not happen (neither did it in Classical Latin, but that is another question 🙃)
Thanks for the tip! I'll Keep It in mind for future vids ;)
The hard c vs soft c is so inconsistent in 40K. Just a couple example, "C'tan" is hard C, "Cicatrix" is soft C followed by hard C. If they were consistant, it could be pronounced like Cicero, so "sisatrix", but I guess that sounds too silly 😅
@@maxstr The "SiKatrix" pronunciation is actually consistent with the Ecclesiastic Latin (in essence: medieval Latin) pronunciation, where the C, before E or I softened to "s" or "ch" or "ts" (depending on the region, but in Western Europe, and as such, most of the Anglophone world the "S" is the most common), and this is how it survived into modern Italian, too. This is how most people today would understand Latin (High Gothic, I mean :)), as _Latin_.
However Classical Latin ("real" Latin-Latin, if you will :)) did not have this phenomenon and they have pronounced it as "KiKatrix", which sounds just as odd as "KiKero" does for "Cicero", but here we are... 🙃
@@Angelimir thanks for your response. So is the C and S interchangeable? For example why is Ceasar not spelled Ceacer or Seacer.(ugh that looks awful), or Cicero spelled Cisero or Sicero? They are both from the same time period after all. Also, words with the S and a hard C also existed, like Secundus but that's never spelled Cecundus right ?
@@maxstr not quite.
The C switches to S in pronunciation only if it is followed by a "high pitch" vowel, ie I or E. But, as I mentioned, this phenomenon occurred only during the Middle Ages, when the speakers of Latin were not the Romans, but all sort European people.
In the first century BC, the Romans did not have this, and basically invariably pronounced these names as "Kikero" and "Kaesar".
I'm very much so looking forward to more awesome content, you got a sub big guy. Ty.
Thanks! Glad you enjoy the content
I like to think the forgotten primarchs took the bucelphulus out for a joy ride and crashed it, causing the emperor to lose his shit.
Cool video! I wish we had models of 40k warships, they are so badass. First time I got recommended your channel, subscribed, quality content!
We do. Battle Fleet Gothic, while discontinued is still a thing. I have a pretty big fleet myself.
@@skalgrimfellaxe5796 I was thinking about perhaps models the size of model ships :) I wasn't around by the time of BFG, so its either 3d prints or very pricy discontinued metal models I feel, but I would 100% be in if it ever returned.
Now this is what a battle in space should look like,absolutely outstanding 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
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Big props to Skalgrim for modding these truly marvelous ships into BFGA 2.
I love how you have a pretty similar way to narrate both in the Spanish and English channel
I thought in descent of angels, they said that his primary ship was outside the system because it could affect the gravity of the other planets.
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Such a cool video. Would love some more ship lore.
Thanks! I do have a vid on all the gloriana ships on my spanish channel but it will take more time to translate, but I'll get to it eventually
@@HighKhan40kLooking forward to seeing that one. I'v added almost all (two of the Dark Angel ones I'v yet not added) of the Glorianas to my mod.
The Bucephalus is most likely part of the defense fleet for the sol system
I've always wondered quite a few things about the Big Gaffer in Gold. One of them comes from the HH novel Mechanicum in which it says the Big E fought the C'Tan called the Void Dragon on earth, giving rise to the story of George and the Dragon or some other parable.
It strongly implies the Void Dragon was too powerful for the Big E to vanquish outright, so he instead imprisoned it in the Noctis Labryrinth on Mars. My question is how on earth did the Big E manage to take the Dragon to Mars during the Dark Ages?
Could have used a smaller ship to get on to caliban while the main ship stayed outside orbit
Apparently Constantine Valdor has the Imperator Somnium
Bucephalus was crippled during the siege of Terra and impacted the planet leaving a massive crater on the planet.
The fact some xenos got abord the Bucephalus is impressive.
they almost ended the imperium before it began apparently killing two primarchs
So basically, the Imperator Somnium is the Giant supership from "the last jedi" ?
Yes, I'm sorry for drawing that comparison
IIRC, there is a description of the Bucephalus landing on Mars when the Emperor first visited and made the alliance with the AdMech. Golden, massive and decorated to an absurd degree.
The Buchephalus is part of Battlefleet Solar and is still active.
Aaah must have missed that description and the bit about the Bucephalus still serving in Battlefleet Solar, thanks for the info! Do you know in what books this is mentioned?
@@HighKhan40k Cannot recall, but I know that Custodes operate it and it is seconded to BattleFleet Solar whenever needed. Also, I recall Bucephalus being described as every single plate of it being engraved with wonderful art.
Breaking News the Bucephalus was thought to be seen in Trazen's museum.
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And on that very day and at that very moment the emperors hopes and dreams died, what was once a symbol of humanity’s might and knowledge, now replaced by fear and ignorance
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If we see the Bucephalus again it will probably be with Vulcan's return
maybe the big E got a smaller ship as landing craft ... which you know makes sense
When it comes to Ships they could tie up plot holes by saying its the same Ship renamed as happens in the real world when a ship changes owner or sometimes after a refit
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Huh I didn't know the Somnium's fate, must be one of the newest books about the siege of terra. Always wondered where it went. What a shame.
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Wait ! So 3 FULL legions with and their primarchs were in danger of losing ?! Holy fcking Waghhhh. The Buchepalus would make a mighty fine vessel for a secert order of Marines dedicated to just fighting Chaos 😉
GW writers: what should we give the Khan when he returns
This video: the ultimate fate of the Buccephalus is unknown as is the reason that the emperor changed ships
Gw writers: WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN
As soon as I saw the title of this video I thought to myself oh yeah he should have that. But also makes me wonder what else the emperor has in terms of custom weapons.
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I wonder if he hid the first ship think about it. He knew it was coming and I bet the first ship wasn’t as automated
While the whole battle was pretty cool, I always wondered why the Imperator didn't make a beeline for the Vengeful Spirit. I feel like a lot of things would've gotten solved real fast that way. Still, epic as hell. XD
Maybe, but I think Horus would have protected the Vengeful Spirit with his new warp powers somehow, and also towards the end of the siege we can see that more than a ship the Vengeful Spirit was more like Horus' Chaos Realm, so again I think both Horus and the Chaos Gods wouldn't allow anything to harm It, and idk if anything could at that time tbh xD but yeah it would have been epic to try anyway hhahaha
i read "Bucephalus" t as "Bug Phallus" and was very confused for a moment.
I thought perturabo left after the saturnnine gamble. Once the lions gate fight was underway. I thought the DA landed prior to lions gate/saturnine
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Would be cool if Valdor had the bucephalus
I hate that description of "its own gravitational field" my brother a single ant has a gravitational pull, literally anything ever has gravity or is affected by it. That description tells me nothing of the size of a ship. Something more fitting would be "it could interfere the orbits of nearby celestial objects" that would be a quite gargantuan ship
Maybe he had a second ship that he used to Land on the surface of planet and his big ship would The mothership
The Bucephalus was most likely destroyed in the Rangdan Xenocides
That would also make a lot of sense
The emperor was Alexander the Great..
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The ship that descended to Caliban would have been a shuttle.
Yeah that makes more sense I Guess xd
Maybe it was the same ship renamed for some reason?
Great narration. Sounds like Camelworks cousin that got into GW instead of Bethesda games
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What's the source on the Bucephelus being boarded? I can't find a reference for that anywhere.
From the Lexicanum wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Rykogene
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I think it would be cool if they were all 1 big robot kinda like power Rangers accept one would be a key and the giant robot made of the primarchs flagships and the emporor ship would be the only thing big enough to use and turn the key that opens up maybe like a blackstone fortress of the subway or who knows what a big robot
for the Emperor
The Ark Mechanicus are the most advanced and powerful vessels of the Imperium. They literally contain STC AI inside of them, like the Speranza from the Priests of Mars novels. It was a ship from the Dark Age that was never completed and they found it in a near-finished state on some planet (or more like part of the planet). That sucker had some kind of time-shift weapon 😅
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Out of curiosity, where does it say the emperor was Alexander the Great?
The Emperor assumed multiple figures throughout history, and while it is not cited which, and combined with the severe loss of historical data, the Emperor could had been ANY famous figure.
It's in one of the Siege of Terra books for sure, can't remember which one it was exactly atm but it was during this series for sure
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The Bucephalus prefers to be called Hank Williams Jr.
So India once defeated the future emperor of man kind?
I know I am no fun at parties... but absolutely everything has its own gravity field. Electrons have their own gravity. Sure it is weak af but they do have it. Saying something has a magnetic field is meaningless .. you need to give some kind of scale for comparison. Also.. if they have gravity technology for inside the ship they also have anti-gravity technology and getting on and off a planet would theoretically be no issue at all... Thank you coming to my TED talk
Also....how many times can you say INDEED in one video?
Hmm I'm no scientist xd but I Guess they meant It was so Big as to attract other ships around It with its gravety, kind of like how a Planet does, allowing other ships to orbit around It? Not sure if this makes sense either from a scientific perspective, but I'm guessing that's what the Lore is going for.
Yeah, I need to use more synonyms I Guess haha sorry about that, although being bilingual I've spent most of my life in Spain and mostly Talk in Spanish so sometiemes my English gets a bit rusty like that, but I'll try to use a richer vocab in the future, thanks for the feedback ;)
@@HighKhan40k Sure.. but that is the point Everything attracts everything else. I am attracting you right now. An electron is attracting the sun.. its is a miniscule immeasurable about..but it happens. Everything has SOME gravity. And that is just a function of how heavy it is. Saying something has a strong magnetic pull just means its really really heavy :)
I choose to believe that ‘generates its own gravitational field’ is layman speak for ‘really really really fucking big’
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