2002 Toyota Tacoma TRD 2WD with Locker vs. 4WD - 4x4TV Tests
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- 2002 Toyota Tacoma TRD 2WD with Locker vs. 4WD - 4x4TV Tests
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Is this video we do our best to show the difference between a locked 2wd Toyota Tacoma and a 4wd Toyota Tacoma with the rear differential open. This video may not be a perfect comparison between the two but it is a question we often wondered about.
You may notice that we had to drive them to get them stuck for the camera.
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I think the real question is, can a 2wd with a locker do what a 4wd without a locker can?
Not to say 4WD isn't without it's benefits, but Comparing a 2wd with highway all-seasons (BFG Rugged Trail T/A by the looks) against a 4wd with what appears to be BFG All-Terrain A/T or General Grabber A/T's isn't really fair: that's like pitting a pair of workboots against a pair of flip flops.
You are absolutely right Mike, tires make a HUGE difference in performance - as a matter of fact I'm always pointing that out myself. But, and I know this is a big BUT, this is how these two trucks came from the factory....so that's how we tested them.
Fair enough, I kinda figured, after reading your reply, that your tests were about "Out of the box" or in this case "fresh off the lot" capability. Thanks for the reply. Just stumbled onto your channel the other day, I must say i really enjoy watching your videos, Great work and I'm lookin forward for more!
my dad bought me a 2000 prerunner for my first truck despite the fact that i wanted a 4x4 but that locking diff really came in handy. it got places no other 2wd should have gone and shocked a lot of people at how well it did in the mud.
All pickups (even 4wd) Need some weight in the rear to gain enough traction. Farmers around here always have their ATV in the bed of their trucks during the winter months. My dad used to just throw in about 4 sandbags. You will be amazed at the difference a little weight over those rear wheels will make.
Every one that drive a 2wd with lockers know your not supposed to have you tires turned in soft terrain. I made it all through the badlands just in my 2wd haha
I put an ARB locker in my 4x2 Frontier. It took me a while to learn the best way to use it but now it goes up hills and sand pretty good. Still not as good as a 4x4 but I could pass all the tests in this video. Lots of revs and I keep my tires below 15psi but it's easy to air back up since the ARB has the compressor.
Its is a good demonstration on how little traction you have with a 2x4 with a locker. weight distribution is the key.
don't know how many times the old duffel bag of sand in the bed has helped my friends.
Is it just me or does it appear that he drives the 4wd with a bit more of a head start and throttle than the prerunner? Especially on the "hill climb" demo.
2wd is good for most situations off road, If you have an unmodified pickup like this one, your trails are going to be relatively easy. The 2wd with the locker is going to be just as good if driven correctly as the 4wd most of the time. Sand is the real killer for 2wd, everywhere else on trails and such, a 2wd will work, not as well, but still work. you may say snow or mud too, but you can correct that easily with tire chains, mud chains, winter or mud tires.
my taco has 490k miles
To answer all the questions we got on this subject. We used 4wd only on the 4wd truck and the locker on the 2wd. My editor put the wrong piece of video in their wrongly showing the application of the 2wd's diff-lock rather than the switching to 4wd.
+4x4TV One of the issues with this video though is the fact that you only tested it on 1 type of surface. Me personally, I live near a bunch of rock outcrops and don't need to worry about loose sand or dirt as much as rock. You should have shown more types of terrain to better the tests.
Perfect vehicle ! I've been looking for a clean used one for a while now.....
By the way, we left the wheels turned more to exacerbate the situation. We were trying to make the need for traction more apparent.
I see a lot of flack from 4x4 owners on a FB tacoma page against us pre-runner owners. personally I would have preferred 4wd but I got a great deal on my 06 and couldn't be happier. sure I would love to get out and do some off roading that only a 4wd can... but mine is still a daily driver and I do care about my gas mileage. haha all things considered, having the locker obviously helps lots, as well as ground condition, tire type, etc. great video.
My 96 GMC 2WD PU with a g30 locker and 500 lbs of sand bags in the back gets me just about anywhere i want to go. if i really want to compete with the Jeeps, I just throw on a pair of chains. Gee...$3-4000 for 4WD I would seldom use against $70 for a pair of chains? Seems like a no-brainer to me.
Clearly, this guy didn't want to give the 2wd enough hell, Had I been behind the wheel of that 2wd It would have been a different result First off, don't get it stuck and then turn on the locking diff, I'd of had it on to begin with, Then don't be scared to bounce it up that hill, I'd of got it up that hill, you stopped and then tried to take off again up hill, which automatically spins the truck down in sand. I would have redlined it to begin with and had a decent approach, just saying.
+Skeefoo Panama You are the man we all wish we could be.
+4x4TV
I use to test military vehicles, I've got lot's of experience.
+Skeefoo Panama Lot's experience tearing up stuff that other people have to pay for?
+4x4TV
It was my job. So, You own all the stuff I see you testing? I was A Quality control inspector, US Army Sergeant First Class, retired now.
It was professional, we never tried to destroy equipment but it did happen during the course of testing sometimes,
You'd cringe at some of the stuff I seen go on. Thanks for the reply sir.
+Skeefoo Panama No we borrow on machines from the manufacturers and always prided ourselves on treating them as if they were ours. Appreciate your service to our country. Sorry to offend your sensitivities.
You need to place some weight on the bed of the 2WD, bet you it will go up those hills. Well what do you expect from the 4x4TV, 2WD no Bueno....4WD mucho bueno. I got it but this just very biased against the 2WD.
i must sau though, owning a prerunner taught me how to drive properly in the snow, i have a 4wd now but i dont always have to depend on it in the snow, and i can have a little more fun and save that gas for the deeper stuff
Exactly, just how much better is potential 3wd over actual 2wd !
Just got a 2wd pre with locker drives great on the road and like you said cost a hell of a lot less in gas than my Nissan king cab 4x4.
Both trucks are the same year. Great vid Thanks
Just the other day I was asking myself what situations a 4wd can handle that a 2wd can't and this cleared things up. Thanks for the video!
@MrElectrodesign Front wheel drive actually works better because the weight of the engine and transmission isw over the drive wheels. Of course when was the last time you saw a FWD vehicle with enough ground clearance to go off-roading? For snow and bad weather, FWD is better than RWD.
So if you were comparing 2wd/locker to 4wd why did you engage the locker in the 4wd?4wd/rear locker will be far better than a 2wd with a locker.
Although our primary purpose was to test locked 2wd vs open 4wd, we had it so we tried it. Too bad we couldn't lock both ends ;-)
flight2k5 First, this video was made in 2002 and I have not watched recently but I think we tested 4wd against a 2wd pre-runner with a rear locker. But then we showed the best possible combination (well almost;-) with 4wd and a rear locker.
I guess not. Airing down tires is well-proven to increase floatation and traction.
sigh.... i myself own a 2001 tacoma prerunner. my dad convinced me to get it, said it costs less in maintanance. i suppose so, but i really wish i had that 4wd. i live in vancouver british columbia, so we dont have any sand dunes like that. but the rare time it actually snows here, i find the trick to getting around is just put 2 80 pound sand bags in the back. haven't gotten stuck yet. however, im well aware of the fact its 2wd, therefore i don't go trying to get stuck.
The thing about trucks is they have no weight in the bed. My Tacoma is 2x4 with a locker and some long t suspension with a bedcage extra gas tanks and my battery in the bed and will fly by 4x4s on steep skinny trails.
only time I got stuck was pre suspension at Pismo and a duffle bag full of sand over the axle was a stupid easy fix
@ 2:42 nice hesitation going up that.. prerunner could have made it easy.
I'd like to see how 4wd without rear diff lock compares with two wheel drive using diff lock.
We did not use the rear locker on the 4wd truck to make that very comparison.
Wow, that's great. I've always wondered about that. Now I know. Thanks so much for your reply.
+4x4TV but not using the rear locker on the 4wd truck would effectively make the traction between both equal, no? The 2wd has locked wheels, so true 2 wheel drive, and the 4wd has open diffs, so one wheel driving up front and one in the rear...so why did the 4wd truck do better? engine weight over front and off-road tires?
Nick Motsarsky That is exactly what we wondered and why we did this (after seeing the advantages of lockers). I think the difference is that the front and rear were each in a slightly different terrain/soil condition - even if ever so slightly.
+4x4TV Yes you did. At 1:19, you clearly activated the diff lock on the 4x4.
nice mullet
@peteralbadin Except to those that thought the Pre-Runner that sits higher with big, off-road tires and a locker is as good as four wheel drive.
Fully Agree
Yup if I get a 1st generation Tacoma 4x4 for me.
Just a warning, a lot of 4 wheel drive vehicles need to roll a couple feet before 4x4 activates. Don't do like me and get stuck and think 'oh i'll just press the button' b/c it has to move some to engage.
The old advice is to be sure you put it in 4WD 'before' you really need it applies here ;-)
4x4TVTV Again, not all trucks are like this. If you are new to 4x4s like I was on my first one. I got in a situation because I just assumed when you pushed the button all was good to go. Obviously it does not apply here, which is why I said a lot of 4 wheel drive need to roll.... No need to be a dick about it, it's just a warning to newbs to hopefully save them some grief.
a-las! i sold my extended cab prerunner and got myself a 4wd double cab!
Please post a video (or point me to one) of the 4x4 sport vs. the 4x4 off road. I want to see how crucial the locker is in the off road model.
the first test with the locked 2wd you didnt even straighten the wheel out when trying to get unstuck
very professional very informative
@theninjadang Wasn't that our point? They have some similarities and some major differences.
its funny I've have a prerunner and i went up hills steeper than that hill climb lol js
those tires arent exactly rated for sand. better tires and engaging the locker before getting in the soft stuff would do everything the 4wd would
At 1:20 you don't show the 4wd truck engaging 4x4, you show it turning on it's rear locker. I assumed it was the 2wd truck when it cut to the rear locker button and not the 4wd button (or j-shifter, depending on which it happens to have).
Trying to 'show' the difference so I had to stuck the 2wd.
Unprecedented and shocking but we felt people needed to know ;-)
I would like to see a Toyota Hilux Vs Toyota Tacoma 4x4 test.
I got a 2wd ranger that will go most places, stock height, just has all terrains on it
2015 Taco TRD OFF ROAD 4X4 WITH DIFF LOCK AND A-TRAC HERE 4INCH SUSP LIFT WITH 285-70-16 KELLEY SAFARI TSR! TIRES On it and I can go farther in 2wd locked in the mountains here in Idaho as far and better!! than my buds in there 4x4s Oh and I've got a 6spd manual as well! GOOO TOYOTA!!
Do they offer a locker on the 4x4?
If I lived somewhere warm I´d get a prerunner, but my number one need for 4x4 is the snow, and the 2wd is useless in snow even with the locker.
Nice video. But ill have to disagree with some things. I've taken my pre-runner through a lot of obstacles and ones just like the ones in the video. I would agree the 4wd is better but if you can drive the pre-runner well enough it will go through almost everything a 4wd will. I've never got my pre-runner stuck yet. I've recently put a bigger more aggressive tire on my truck and I'm amazed at what it will do now. I'd say its a close call between both trucks. Definitely not a huge difference for anyone deciding what to buy.
There is no doubt that a well-tired and well-driven 2wd with a locker will surprise a lot of folks. Then again a 4wd with a locker in the rear or better yet a pair of lockers front and rear will typically go more places than a 'regular' driver will care to go ;-)
Good points EXCEPT he (I) was trying to highlight the differences.
Good point!
Unless that was just bad editing, you were using a 4x4 with a rear locker against a 2wd with a locker. Not going to be a contest there.
What we were testing is how effective a rear locker is as compared to an open differential 4wd.
That is what you said, but the video clearly shows the locker switch being turned on when you are running the 4x4. Again, it's in the details so pay attention."Unless it was bad editing on the video, you are locking a rear diff on the 4x4". I will simply give you the benefit of the doubt that you conducted the test correctly and just screwed up the video editing.
ouhpiudrhviuerwfh fivovpervioerjv Well at least I'm glad I get the benefit of the doubt considering we did this video about 12 years ago!
Just me, I think you could have gotten much better results with meater tires on the 2we, I have a 2we pickup with rubicon tires and I think I would have been able to bet the first test without locked diff. What do you think?
Yes.
Straighten your wheels
If I buy a 4 cylinder 4x4 2.7 liter tacoma can I get 20 mpg if it's a stick shift?
ex tacoma prerunner owner here, in short, i traded it for a 4wd tacoma.
although in snow, with sandbags, the locker on the prerunner is a life saver
It's a pickup with no cargo, the rear wheels have little traction any way. Put 1.000 lbs of sand bags on the bed and watch that rwd locked go anywhere an open diff 4x4 will go.
why can't we just lock the 4wd? lol
Joseph Long Because we already know it's the best. But a rear locker is a cheap way to have the same off road performance of an open diff 4x4.
4wd is just better to have all around in case you need it better to have it and not need it than not have it and need it is the way I see it. I have a 2004 double cab Tacoma 4wd and wouldn't want it any other way. I live in a very snowy state so 2wd isn't an option for me.
That was a pathetic run at the hill with the pre-runner. 2wd is all about momentum. He could have made it way farther up that hill.
wow...who would of thought a 4WD would go further than a 2WD....
I can do if it does not work if you pick the button
My feeling almost exactly ;-)
You cant drive a 2wd locked truck like a 4wd truck. You gotta WOT that shit! You can't compare the two they are 2 different things. My brother and I both have tacomas. One is a 2002 2wd Double Cab the other is a 2004 4wd Extra Cab. We wheel in the same places. I've only been stuck a few times. Where hes only been stuck like once.
which is gray?
When going off road it's always better to have a 4wd.
so prerunners all have that rear differential?
+Timothy Milliken Just the TRD Off-Road models. All PreRunners do have the lifted 4x4 suspension, though. Aftermarket lockers are also available. Check out the Tacoma World forum for all the info on Tacomas you can imagine.
Sadpants McGee hmm ok my prerunner does have a rear locker tho so im happy with that!
+Timothy Milliken there is a huge aftermarket for those trucks. You could install any rear diff you can imagine.
Wow. No wonder the 4x4 taco won here, It's got a locker too! and better tires! Plus you cant drive a 2wd with the same driving style a a "locked" 4x4. also you never STOP
IN the deep crap with an open diff!! you give er till you get get thru, or lock it FIRST!! Ive got a crapp 2wd ranger, open diff and 5 speed. ive driven thru grill high snow banks in northern WI and never had it stuck yet!! proves to me this driver sucked.
It proves to me you missed the point here.....
+4x4TV No, YOU missed the point. Of course a 4x4 with a locked diff and underinflated tires will perform better than a 4x2 with a locked diff and overinflated tires. You gave the advantage to the 4x4 right off the bat.
+4x4TV whats the point here??
+MitsuFQ400 It 'was' to try to see the differences between a locked 2WD and an unlocked 4WD. Hard to do.
4x4TV Especially hard to do when you lock the 4WD.
What a lame comparison. While a locked 2wd can do most of what an open diffed 4x4 can do, you can't drive it the same and expect positive results. To make it worse, you locked the 4x4 as well.
I used to have respect for your reviews, particularly for ATVs.
But if your already spend of time off road you must already have a 4wd :-D
what about 2wd for winter right now i got a 4ed
Tires make all the difference in winter. Car & Driver did a test a while back between an AWD SUV with all-season tires and a 2wd SUV with snow tires. 2wd with snow tires performed better in every situation.
Poor examples.
@markusx2468 You got it...
nobody thought that, if they look the same, THEN THEY ARE EXCEPT FOR THE 4WD!!!!
this vid was biased as hell😒
Those prerunners are VERY formidable. especially if it had A/T's like the 4x4 did instead of all seasons. and you kept doing stuff AFTER the fact of getting stuck. and purposely driving the 2wd exactly how you're NOT supposed to in order to get it stuck. it could of done EVERYTHING the 4x4 did in this video. had it had the same tires and the locker activated before the fact.
I have an 07 2wd 4runner. and that could do everything the 4x4 Tacoma did in this video. without getting stuck. and I don't have a locker either.
You are a sour man - perhaps caused by having to watch those 'yanks' have all the sunshine and good trails ;-)
4wd all the way!
well if you drive a 2wd the rite way it will make it. i have a 1989 cadillac fleetwood that take me anywhere i want
Mark Maison gtfo. lmao. Fleetwood. wtf.
i coulda told you that
This video is bias.
The 4x4 has better tires and you turned on lockers.
The 4x2 was also disadvantaged with the steering wheel being turned.
you clearly had a favoritism towards the 4x4.
next time you need to have both trucks identical especially tires minus 4x4 open diff and 2wd locker. The driving should be the same too. both need to have the wheels straight or none.
both test subjects need to be the same minus what you are doing comparison on
Yes:/
@GirlzTrivia An odd concept
4WD
And there you go, dont be a dumbass like me and just buy a 4wd
That's ridiculous why make a 2 wheel drive lifted to look like a 4 wheel drive and not just make it 4 wheel drive that's stupid. Wonder how many times people have been off road and wish they had bought a four-wheel drive instead lol.
@LEthalRoguE1 very minor.
U still dont understand the prerunner style... as much as i love the taco, its just takes the utility completely out of it, still gets bad mpg ....iiiiii dont know its just SO dumb! like... just cut your own arm off!?
Driver error lol
kkk not driving like that, I had 2wd and I drive on sand...all the time around 10MPH without stuck...I did not know why "stucking" so easy like that OR YOU WANT TO SELL 4x4 kkk
1. It's an obvious, common sense no. 2. People need to stop deflating their tires, shit doesn't do anything! More surface area means more friction!
Let's just not get rwd and detroit lock a 4x4 🙂 That is where the fun comes in to play