Explaining the Crazy Continuity of the Living Dead Franchise
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One clarification I want to add. Lucio Fulci’s Zombi 2 was written before Dawn of the Dead even came out. After Argento’s version of Dawn was so popular in Italy they decided to release it under the name Zombi 2, forever linking the two otherwise unrelated Zombie franchises into one massive mess of a Living Dead/Zombi family!
But they aren't connected.
Just like Return of the Living Dead series is a whole different series from the Romero films.
I think the prologue (boat arriving in New York harbour) and epilogue (Zombies invading New York) were shot after someone had seen 'Dawn' and put in there to suggest 'Zombie' was a prequel explaining how the zombie epidemic started.
Just so you know there’s a calendar photo at 2:34 that may get you striked by YT. don’t know if you knew already but thought I would comment
@@kaiebosworth9407
Years ago I'd say you were being petty, but last year Severin Films had their whole channel deleted because they accidentally left a nipple in a trailer.
Yet Bud Dwyer's extremely graphic su**ide was left alone on various RUclips channels for I-don't-know-how-many years.
The slightest nip-slip has never really been allowed on RUclips (although it has occasionally gone unnoticed), but a guy putting a gun in his mouth and pulling the trigger? No biggie, apparently.
We have a weird kind of prudishness here in North America. (Not sure how it is in Europe, though.)
The colour remake of night was always my favourite, the cast and the almost zulu type last stand...iconic.
So we finally meet aye?
It’s one of the best remakes ever made.
@@pauliewalnuts2527 whadya hear , whadya say...hehe
Patricia Tallman was amazing.
I've somehow left this video even more confused lmao. That being said, VERY well done dude! Well spoken, sharp editing and lots of info. I hardly knew any of this and I like to consider myself pretty well versed in the movie world haha
Much appreciated!
This is exactly what I said as well! I clicked this video expecting to learn 1 or 2 new things and had no idea LOL
I'm so glad someone finally made a comrehensive walkthrough of all of this, I've been obsessed with this wild, tangenting chronology for years.
"The Return Of The Living Dead" is an absolute classic, and in my opinion it's easily the best Zombie film ever made, it created the concept of zombies craving human brains, and had great practical effects and a good cast, three of them going on to pop up in a few "Friday The 13th" sequels. But the original - "Dawn of the Dead" and "Day of the Dead" are fantastic too. You can't beat 1980s punks vs zombies, or a retro shopping mall full of hungry undead. 🎃👍
Yep Trash was HOOOOOOOOT =)
@@josephperkins4857oh God yes. I rewound that part a few times lol
I agree but The Return is AMAZING but I'm more of the cynical type and realism. I think Day and Dawn really summed up what would happen if something like that happaned.
“Retro mall”….isn’t it ironic that now the mall itself is a zombie.
@@jakeen229I feel exactly the same way as you do. Probably because I saw Return as a kid - tar zombie scared the crap out of me. I didn't watch it again until I was in my thirties and him talking still freaks me out to this day 😂
A few years ago, before his death, Romero made a comic series that seems to be a kinda/sorta sequel to Night of the Living Dead called Empire of the Dead. IIRC Barbara managed to survive being taken by the zombies, rescued by for undead brother that somehow remembered who she was, apparently some zombies managed to retain at least some of their memories and didn't have a constant hunger for human flesh. Oh and it involved vampires.
It was a tie in to land of the dead. I think the idea was that they would prime fans to consider zombies as retaining more humanity than was expected so Bub wasn't just a fluke. The trouble is that it was largely pointless as a story because it retconed a bit too much and stands outside of his continuity as a result. It's not particularly easy to get your hands on these days so if you have it hold on tightly to it
@@incredibleflameboy
Are you infected from some of the foreign Zombie films...Japan, Australia....
I don't care for some of the upgrades to the "canon" beyond the listings in
this video, still some concepts push where other source materials could
have woven some 2nd-3rd part stories. Planet of the Vampires sure made
Space and Alien inroads to the Zombie theme, never to be seen again.
@@theunknowngamer5477 I'm not really sure what you're asking. The comic was written by Romero as part of the night, dawn, day and (upcoming at the time) land franchise, as part of the main continuity. It didn't include concepts from anything outside of Romero's stories and only pushed the idea of intelligent zombies similar to big daddy but ignored that it was totally unheard of for ghouls to achieve sentience outside of a single persons science project by implying that all of the ghouls had the capacity and ability from the start. It effectively removed day from continuity and reduced dawn's impact.
@@incredibleflameboy
...and I have, by choice, fallen into the politics of the Zombieverse.
Sorry for the ignorant observation/question. If posting how much
I dislike the Marvel Zombie fad could ever bring forgiveness...
@@theunknowngamer5477 it's not at all related to marvel zombies. It was published by AMP and dark horse. I'm assuming that English isn't your first language because the replies are quite hard to follow, that's the part I don't understand of what you're saying.
That part in return of the living dead, when a zombie described what it was like to be dead, is one of the most horrorfying scenes in zombie movies, because of the deeper implications of it. It basically said it was non stop pain in death and hurt really bad to be a zombie and insinuates that if the zombies were not suffering so bad, they could reason better and show restraint.
So The Return of the Living Dead was a book before it became a movie, the book has nothing to do with the movie outside of the title, but the book version was eventually made into a film called Children of the Living Dead, which is how that movie fits into all of this.
Damn it gets even crazier!
The Return of the Living Dead broke the fourth wall, which I found very amusing as a kid. They couldn't kill the zombies by simply striking them in the head. "You mean the movie lied?!" Their solution of burning the zombies ended up creating more zombies. You think it would be hard to up the stakes in a zombie movie, but they pulled it off very well. Making the punks protagonists was also a nice touch. The only bummer was making it an unwinnable situation even if nukes were used.
Romero was a Hollywood outsider who created one of the most Iconic creatures in movie history. I really dig the whole damn franchise.
zombies existed before Romero as voodoo controlled people/corpses. he didn't invent the idea. even then, The Last Man On Earth had weird vampires that are similar to what would be NOTLD's Zombies years later.
@@GribbleGob I know the story. Romero didn't create zombies. He created the modern concept of zombies being the recently deceased.
My personal watch through goes Night, Dawn, Fulci’s Zombie, Return, Day
There are also two Return of the Living Dead novels, one based on the movie and one before the movie that is completely different
This is really impressive how much homework you did on this subject man. You did more homework on this I think than anyone I've ever heard do a video of this nature.
this is cool, could like to see more videos like this, its always interesting to hear about all the spin offs, sequels prequals and tie ins of movies T.V. shows and so on
In my opinion Tom Savini's
"Night of The Living Dead" Re-make is the best in the sereis, in second place
Return of the Living Dead ...
i agree i saw that one as a kid and didnt realize it was a remake. will always have a special place in my heart
The actress that played Barbara was horrible in that one
@@MahkyVmedia1i respect your opinion.
I have to disagree, For me Romero's Babarra was pretty stale but unique because it was one of the 1st Zombie type of films etc.
Tom Savini's it was a re-make yes however were talking mid 90's, if Savini made the exact same Film as the 60's version it would of been boring as.
Wow! you really did some research! I had no idea about most of these. Thanks!
The amount of work you put into this is great.
Thanks!
The best short breakdown of this crazy continuity I’ve seen yet. Well done!
Thank you!!
Great Video! I made a few photos and collages on this as well, I believe some of the last few you had on here, I wasn't aware of. If you're looking for new ideas, I did one for all the Troll movies as well, just throwing that out there, if this is your style of video making. I seen your channel is new. There's the original Troll, the infamous Troll 2 along with "The Best Worst Movie Ever Made" and "Under ConTROLL". Plus the 2 different "Troll 3" films and the 2nd 3rd one being the 4th in another series of films called Ator. Good luck with building your channel! I really enjoyed this and it sums up what I tell people when I go on a rant about the "...of the Dead" series lol
In TWD, we have a world where NOTLD was never made, thus not spreading the lore that would have aided the survivors. Another intriguing What If? would be: What If Russo and Romero had kept on as partners, and the film had not fallen into the public domain? Granted, NOTLD and bizarrely, It's A Wonderful Life, arguably benefitted from public domain showings keeping interest in them. But I really wonder where the franchise would have gone. The listing - the masterful listing - you did here almost seems like a zombie infection itself, with sweeping in so many completely disparate films. Pulgasari? Heh. I wonder if the Kims demanded an import of this 'Zombi' sequel only to realize it was their own kidnapping-based production (seriously, they kidnapped the film maker), probably with some odd dubs to make the zombie angle work. As a fanfic writer of 25 years, I can honestly say: You couldn't make this shit up.
A lot of people don't realize that about TWD, which they made fun of that on the Conan O'Brian show. Carol and Meryl invaded the show and when Conan mentioned zombies, Meryl said, "If by zombies, you mean walkers...."
Producer 1: “Wait…which entry are we on?”
Producer 2: “………..fuck…”
Excellent coverage! Subbed so fast!
Much appreciated!
Dude, thank you for this. I learned some crazy stuff that blew my mind.
Well done, thank you!
Night of The Living Dead and Children Should Not Play With Dead Things, was a double feature, at the Drive In movie lots,
alongside the Theater release (sort of), in North CA. Other than some kinky adult films and Planet of The Apes, there was
a very long waiting/parking time. Sold out showings, people puking and screaming, adults freaking out if kids wanted to
see AND Sainthood at School for the kids allowed to see the movies.
Well made video! Just subbed.
Interesting video. I didn't know about some of these movies.
I’ve always found it crazy going into these 70s and 80s zombie flicks. You did an insanely good job with this
So many movies I've never heard of but all those movie posters really remind me of some of the 80s metal album covers
This was insane, thanks for this. Makes me want to track every last one of em down out there in the wild! Build the ALL TIME zombie movie collection
That was some very intense research! Bravo
I've been a fan since the 80s...however there's info even i never knew about.
Great video👌👍🏻
Fantastic video!
Zombi 2 is not a prequel to Dawn Of The Dead, it was an unrelated film in production the same time as Dawn, it's title was Nightmare Island, when the Romero film (Titled Zombie: Dawn Of The Dead in Italy) came in 78 it made a lot of money in Italy, so the Fulci film was retitled Zombi 2 by the producers to cash in on the success of the Romero film without Fulci's knowlege or consent, Zombi 3 is debatable as a sequel to Zombi 2, but Zombi 4,5,6 etc are all seperate films just retitled at the 11th hour in cash in, Michael Lee who ran british distribution company VIPCO had to retitle the Fulchi film to Zombie Flesh Eaters to avoid being sued.
By prequel I meant it takes place before it since Zombi 2 was about the island where the outbreak started, implying that Dawn took place after
@@DefGoldFilmI understand what a prequel is, But Zombi 2 is not a prequel to Dawn, That's what I'm saying, it's an unrelated film.
@@mackchats6520 Most of these films are unrelated to Romero's. Simply studios and distributors trying to cash in.
@@crashnbyrne Correct.
@@DefGoldFilm Saying the word prequel implies it is related. You should choose better words.
Thank you for making this video! It's really cool, you did a great job explaining it all. I'm a HUGE fan of all things zombie, esp Big Papa Romero, so I actually understood everything you said 😂
Thank you!
I never knew there were so many related films. Thanks
Also love the 4th film, Land of the Dead
How can you have 2.4k likes and only 698 subscribers? This is an excellent video, well researched and presented. You deserve a lot more subs.
Thank you!
Damn this was deep. Never knew the “Living Dead” was so expansive 😮
Amazing vid and wow what a ton of research you put into all this. That being said, you missed the classic by Mr. LOTR himself Peter Jackson called Dead Alive in USA release and BrainDead in it's native New Zealand. It's the classic tale of the Sumatran rat monkey, or something like that, and how it's bite causes a living dead curse that gets out of hand quickly in a small town. It features a reluctant hero and one of the best zombie slaughter scenes ever filmed featuring a lawn mower. And it's a love story too! The R rated US version was 85 mins but BrainDead in all it's uncut glory was 97 mins and those 12 mins all pure blood, guts, and gore that the US wouldn't let into the R edit. Pretty amazing ish. I'm happy to say I own both on DVD.... Yes I'm that old. ;-)
Great movies! Enjoyed the mystique surrounding the whole genre at that time. It was interesting to watch the evolution of the zombie movies
:) Great video and a lot I did not know!
Great video, thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Didn't realize how many films were released under the Zombi 3 title. Crazy
This video tickled my brain in all the right ways. I love that you went knee deep into the 80's horror movie naming convention.
Regarding Pulgasari, had no idea it was once labeled as a "Zombi" series entry. Did you know that the Director of that movie was literally kidnapped by Kim Jong-il ? He was a fan of the directors work and more or less held him captive for a few years so he could make custom pictures to Kim Jong-il. It's not a joke, it really did happen. The actor for the monster named Pulgasari actually had been different monsters in several Godzilla films prior. He (Kenpachiro Satsuma) at least did not seem to have been kidnapped. The movie it self is a decent Godzilla clone, set in 1600's Korea.
A fun thing about the Night of the living Dead remakes. It is only the Tom Savini one that is official. I think it may have something to do with the Public Domain controversy. Basically, someone at Romeros department made a huge mistake when filing the copyright for the "Night of the living dead" title/IP. Which made the movie void of a valid copyright at the time of release. And trying to solve that at the time was supposedly really expensive and time consuming. So in theory Romero have not made a dime from the original movie. That may be partly why the original cut of the movie is basically available on every streaming platform ever. Public Domain movies can be distributed however one wants, without having to pay anything.
Also, One cut of the Dead is one of the best horror comedy's ever made. DO PLEASE watch it!
Have anyone here watched any of ther unlicensed Night of the living dead spinoffs? I've tried to watch two of the animated ones, some of the worst movie experiences i've had. And i have seen a lot of trash cinema.
Needless to say. The Savini remake of NOTLD and the Snyder remake of DOTD are classics.
Great video, subscribed!
I was going to say a kaiju movie being seen as a Zombi entry made me do a double take. I love learning how movies were released under different names back in the day.
Like how the first Godzilla vs Mothra was called Godzilla vs The Thing in America.
Great video!
Thanks!
Great work
Thanks!
Fun fact the original Walking Dead comic book (that the TV show is based on) was originally pitched as a follow-up to the first Night of the Living Dead movie and was even supposed to take place in the 60s but Jim Valentino decided it would be better to make it an original story instead so the creators would own the property. The rest is history.
I liked the direction they were going with Day of the Dead with the whole teaching zombies and continuing that story arch type with Return of the Living Dead 3. I really like the assimilation aspect of the military and scientists to use the infected ala Resident Evil type beat, think there is always so much to explore in that direction and would love to see some big budget movies made, could you imagine a zombie movie made by James Cameron? I can!
Lotta research went into this 👏
Commendable work, my friend. Certainly must have been a labor. But a labor well worth it for the quality result.👍
Thank you!
9:57 the 80’s was the rise of VHS and home video…
Tom Savini didn't work on the original NOTLD, he was supposed to,but he was drafted into the Vietnam War, but he got his chance as we all know in Dawn...
dont worry us folks who watched this stuff when it came out were smart enough to have figured out the whole zombie sequel thing.
I adore Night of the Living Dead
I tried selling a limited series based on movie to Netflix but never got the meeting setup. There's a few friends who read the first three episodes who really wanna film or animate them. It's one of the few things I wrote myself that I'll go back and read just because I loved how scary it turned out. Really wish I could have it made. Very anti walking dead where characters basically just go from one hiding spot to another. It really takes its time building the fear of not knowing. The fear of losing power and contact with the rest of the world.
I upped the racial tension by making Benjamin Palestinian and the Cooper practicing Judaism and his Wife Helen and sister Kara being Jewish (I did this in 2010s based on a bojack horsemen joke where two guys had a Palestinian hat and other had an Israeli hat and they wanted to know what a girl had to say about the tension between the two).
Made Johnny (who switches roles with Barbara) a depressed ptsd 20 something African American seeing things that aren't there.
Tommy became Thomas, a retired fire fighter who owns house and is semi racist about all the races in his house. He just wants to reunite with his wife Judy, a cop stuck in town twenty miles away. She would show up with an African American partner (hinting to be Peter from Dawn) as well as Peter's friend Roger (a pilot) and his local newswoman GF at the end with plans to fly a chopper someplace safe.
there's the unintended Dark comedy Dead of the dead: give up the ghost, a short film on youtube. 2 versions done, Executive and Competition cut. Then there's it's sequel, Soul Reign: the rattle of disturbance. A 3rd, Shadow heart, is in development.
thank you for this.
Don't forget that Antropophagus had a US release renamed, The Grim Reaper.
Did not expect to see Pulgasauri in this vid lol!
I wanna see a chart of all these connections then watch all of them
“Now as crazy as all this may seem, we’re about to take it even more international and it’s gonna get crazy.”
What about resident evil/ biohazard which is basically an homage to the dead series but with extra monsters
Come on now. Those are shit. Disrespect to iconic characters, director just made his wife the lead and she doesnt fuckin exist in the game and the gore is shit. Re would be easy as fuck to make but only dumbass directors keep getting rights.
In the UK, it was released as 'Zombies: Dawn of the Dead". And 'Zombie 2' was 'Zombie Flesh Eaters'.
There's also several films which got released as 'Zombie 6'... including 'Absurd' and 'Devil Hunter'.
Wow I give it to you you did your research I mean after that whole video man I think I got a headache but thank you for your research
i wish you could list the films in order you speak of them in the video there are a few i'd like to check out some of these.
"The Dead movies have crazy continuity"
Godzilla series: hold my beer...
In 1983, Hell Of The Living Dead was released in US cinemas as Njght Of The Zombies.
Those posters go hard
The 4 Spanish "Blind Dead" movies are quite enjoyable.
The Blind Dead are not zombies, however vampires. Director Amando de Ossorio explained this.
That is quite a mess. Thank you. I knew of most of the films but didn't realize the sequences. I did like the Savini remake a lot.
I'm going to have to check out NotLD resurrection. I live in Wales and the local town is like a Romero film. I actually have a DVD of it but never watched it because I thought it was just a remaster instead of a reboot of sorts.
You forgot the really funny and overlooked 2011 Juan of the Dead
Damn!!! My b!
Zombie 1979 is the most nightmarish fuel zombie movie I've ever watched.
You forgot ' Children Shouldn't Play with Dead Things ' and ' Zombie Lake ' well done
Bit late to the party with this response.
To my knowledge there's two more cuts of 'Dawn of the Dead' in addition to the three that are widely available . . There are the "Theatrical", the "European" and the "Workprint" version.
There is also an "R" rated version of "Dawn" that George A. Romero did as a possible release on a double bill with "Creepshow". Test audiences reactions were so bad to the cut gore, that George and Richard Rubinstein dropped the idea and the movie hasn't been seen since the initial test screening. It might still be around, mislabeled or forgotten, in a storage room.
The second cut that I know of is a Japanese version of the movie which adds a prologue/voiceover explaining how the dead have returned to life and are attacking the living. It's also supposedly longer than the Dario Argento "European" version, but shorter than the North American "Theatrical" release, but I don't know what scenes were added/cut to make the Japanese version.
It'd be interesting to see a prequel of the real world events mentioned in ROTLD, the first outbreak.
I like the return of the living dead zombies the most they’re the hardest to kill. In a realistic setting I feel like they would be the most deadly
Jesus Christ! The train is so far off the rails it’s in the next county
How could you forget the incomplete masterpiece Highschool of The Dead
As a kid in the 80s I loved both series. Romero's scared me more, but ROTLD were funnier.
After watching the video I still have no idea of what's going on with the continuity. I think I need to see this with tacs, string, and a corkboard.
Throw in Raiders Of The Living Dead and it’s a party! Love all the Dead films and ROTLD1 and 3, not to mention the Dawn remake, are some of my all time favourite movies.
Holy moly....that's a lot of movies.
The ending broke my brain, how did they mess this up so badly. This video should now be canon for Zombi 2…honestly at this point lol.
I'm so confused, and also I have more horror movies to watch, I think. Nice video. 👍
The movies are not set in the same universe though in each the events still happen. In land, Dawn does happen but it happens in the early 2000s as the biker gang leader from Dawn is seen in land. The only difference is the times the events happen, but they still happen. Any non Romero version of his films are not in his universes.
How to add a movie to franchise: just named living dead, something of dead or zombie (inserte the number of sequel)
At 2:20you coupdve simply said "That the Movie was Based on True events happening in this Universe" I swear the way you said it I had to play It back 3 times to wrap my head around it.
awesome video
but you forgot the most important "of the dead" titles which is Zombie Ass: Toilet of the Dead
Dude you broke me and lost me after 30 seconds, I completely lost track of all the moves and timelines and everything……. Took me back to my high school geometry days 😂 all I know is that I need to track down and watch every single one of these films
For some reason day of the dead has always felt so depressing and sad. Just everyone losing their minds the whole time
Nah any thing return of the living dead has zero to do with any Romero movie.
Theres no confusion mis info
I never realized it till last night..Night of the living dead was influenced by Alfred Hitchcock`s The Birds.
Day of the Dead was the first film in the series I saw, which was on DVD, because my Mom thought "unrated" on the DVD cover was equivalent to a G rating. Yeah that turned out well, lol. But to this day it's still my favorite
Yeah, that's all pretty convoluted. Would love to see a flowchart of this to help make it easier to wrap my head around...
You and me both!
Juan of the Dead
great job. you didn't miss any that I know of. Although a passing mention of Revenge of the Living Zombies would have been funny. Zombie 2 was fuckin awesome!! So was the Savini LotLD remake. Children and Hell were absolutely horrible, as was Zombie Holocaust. A bunch of these I haven't seen, so thanks for the list, ima get on that right away lol. [edit] -- oh wait! Revenge was just another title for Flesheater! Ha!
Great list of movies, I had no idea. I’ll be using this as reference for many future movies to watch. I like 2005 Dawn of the Dead and early Day of the dead best... also world war Z.
Lol, after seeing this, I think I need a flowchart made. 🤣
You should do the same but with the Amityville movies
There was also the Syfy Channel Day Of The Dead 10 episode series. It wasn’t too bad compared to some of the knockoffs.
I didn't care for it.
Is there a chart that you can give us? 😅