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I mean it was completely honest who she liked so I felt like her choice was already made. Although the cheating thing I feel like wasn’t that unpredictable but that might just be bc Jere always made me feel gross💀
@@hayleysantos3648 I'm team Conrad as well, even if Jere never hooked up with that girl. I just see this trope over and over where a writer will destroy a perfect good character's reputation so the readers and main character are almost pushed to choose the main love interest. I'd rather not have the whole weird cheating thing and random engagement part of this book at all.
In the first two books Jeremiah always seemed better than Conrad, and I felt like in the last book they made Jeremiah look worse just so Conrad would seem like a better choice in comparison. I was sad that they basically ruined Jeremiah’s character in the process. Overall I love the books but I wish they had gotten to the ending in a different way!
I am one of those people who thought he didn’t cheat because it really sounded like a breakup even though belly just said it in the heat of the moment. But agree that they did not need to make him immature and a jerk just to make Conrad looked better. And I felt Conrad, himself did that which makes it worse because he was undermining his own brother.
@@Laurica-lb6nv maybe, but some of it was played up. I get he was having fun in college, but I felt Han took away his good qualities and played up the frat behavior to make Conrad look better. Yeah skipping out on the wedding duties wasn’t good, but while I did not want them to get married, I didn’t want them to break up yet either. I still felt he still cared about Belly despite all of this, but wasn’t ready to be married which makes sense. But book 2 Jeremiah didn’t match book 3 version of him, if that makes sense.
Fr 😭 Like the moment she cut the relationship, it was obvious to me she was just using him so Conrad would be jealous 😭 I aint on none of the characters side on the show but a lot of then could have had better, especially cam, just tryna be innocent and sweet to her 😢
I also liked taylor and belly’s friendship better in the show because belly wasn’t annoyed with taylor the whole time. It felt more genuine and taylor was more supportive of belly instead of just shooting her down. They had their issues and arguments, but once they communicated, they were able to be friends again. I didn’t get this in the books.
Taylor was a terrible person in the show tho😭. She was so toxic to belly sometimes especially when it came to the hooking up with her brother part and when she first came to the house on belly’s birthday, when she kept shutting belly down to flirt with Jeremiah. Or when she was a homewrecker, multiple times. Pretty sure she also couldn’t handle belly having other friends and making belly feel bad bc Taylor wasn’t the most important person in her life. God I hope she has a better personality in the next season.
@@Njx063I think Taylor is the reason why Shayla isn’t with Steven anymore in my opinion though xD. 😂❤ I dont hate none of the characters, but they could be always better!! 😀
@@Njx063I'm late to the party and only began watching the show yesterday. Currently I am in the middle of episode 4. In Belly's birthday episode, when Taylor came to Cousins to celebrate, I couldn't help but notice how Taylor kept dismissing Belly when Taylor, Belly and Jere were all having ice cream. And how Taylor hit Nicole with the ball on purpose. But then at the beach she was all "Belly, promise me we'll always stay best friends" and it just infuriated me. She seems like wants to one-up Belly, but she's also jealous of Belly making other friends? Anyway, I really hated her character and thought the Beylor friendship was just really weird and unhealthy, so I agree with your comment.
Hmm i got a completely different vibes from Taylor. I think she feels excluded. She stays home and isn’t really a part of cousins beach gang . Just a visitor. And usually the stories just included the boys but now belly has new girlfriends. Not saying it’s right to lash out! But I feel for her!. Also belly only ever talks about her problems. We now hardly anything about Taylor’s problems. ( or maybe I just can’t remember)
THIS IS EXACTLY IT! Like Jeremiah was so written out of character in the third book! I'm like HOW DARE you do my boy Jere like this?!?!?!!?!?!? It really felt like exactly what you said- Belly was always gonna go to Conrad, but Jenny Han didn't have to hurt my boy like this? Aboslutey excellent video!! Loved it
TBHHH (and i mean this very lightheartedly) jeremiah asking belly to marry him did feel on character bc he seemed like an all or nothing kind of guy in the other books ESPECIALLY after susannah passed away; he probably had some sort of revived motivation to live effortlessly if that makes sense, take chances and do things that scare him. i am more than sure as someone who is starting university (i can't remember exactly how old he is by the time him and belly are in college) and who is still in the healing process after losing his mother to cancer, he felt the need to do something dangerous maybe i didn't explain myself too well but poke holes in that explanation as you will lmao
@@gaiaowu9862 Jeremiah is very much an all or nothing kind of person. And that it what I love about him. When he wants you, he's open about it and never lets you feel like he doesn't want you. But him randomly springing a wedding on Belly simply to try to salvage his relationship after "cheating" is a little too OOC for me. Him cheating seemed like a plot device to get Bonrad together, not something that I could actually see him doing. I honestly don't see either of the brothers cheating on Belly (even if I do have qualms against Conrad). That almost felt like a step too far. lmao
I think it seemed out of no where for a lot of readers because it seemed out of nowhere for Belly. The story is told exclusively from her pov, she doesn’t see either of the brothers for who they are because she is still an average teenager that sees the world for how it relates to her since her world view hasn’t been expanded yet. This is a reason I prefer the show more because we see the characters independent of Belly and of her lens of the events. The show is more clear how Jeremiah is a happy go lucky extroverted guy that enjoys being the center of the party. So it’s no surprise he ends up in a fraternity and looks for solace in his previous single guy lifestyle when Belly breaks up with him. She took him for granted because in the past he was her best friend that was always there for her and lacked the foresight that only comes from experience to think about how that dynamic would be shifted since they were romantically involved. Then being a guy that puts his all into the people he loves, for him there was no better way to show the importance of his relationship with Belly than to ask her to marry him because to him that’s the ultimate romantic commitment. I honestly don’t think until her relationships with everyone is tested because of this engagement does Belly actually grow significantly as a person to see the world beyond herself. She doesn’t see either of the boys clearly until after this event and then it’s clear how her gut was right that Conrad was reason😮choice. He is steady in the ways she needs a partner to be and compliments both her faults and positive attributes with his own.
@@riotz101 Not really. He’s a very loyal person. You can see by the way in book 1 he would always make excuses for Conrad’s behavior and even respected his boundaries even if it hurt him. Also when Jeremiah stuck behind to catch sea crabs with Belly even though the boys said they wouldn’t let him play the video game if he didn’t come buy it. These, ofc, are only specific examples, but it goes to show his general character. Jeremiah is a flirt. He’s said it himself, people have said it about him, and his actions have shown that. But he never gave cheater. Which in-fact, he still doesn’t because he didn’t actually cheat. They had broken up. Being a flirt or even liking partying doesn’t mean that someone gives cheating vibes.
when you said “im not a conrad stan, im a jeremiah defender” i screamed!!!! i have been saying this for so long!! third book is soooo ooc for jere i cant read it anymore.
not only did the books completely ruin jeremiah by making him a nasty cheating frat boy, but they totally skip over the two years that he and belly were together, so the readers don’t have time to get emotionally attached to their relationship 😐😐😐
@@miaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa13i think it’s more so that Jeremiah is insecure and usually sex can give people the illusion of being wanted. In the books, belly didn’t sleep with him during their relationship and after a fight where they angrily ended things, he wanted physical comfort and got it
@@meeraabubakr honestly, I absolutely DESPISED Conrad since the beginning, he was such a self-centered asshole and i dont know how to describe it but his behaviour just made me feel so icky and disgusted. They did my Jere SO wrong in book 3 💀
@@agrumecitrus4336in the show Conrad is lovely. He has all the right motivations. He’s brooding and withdrawn but only because he’s too hard on himself. Idk about the books
@@naika7 i can understand that hes extremely sad about his mother and such, but that doesnt mean he has to ba an asshole to everyone and neglect those around him
I feel so validated reading that people agree that Jeremiah was completely changed on the last book to make belly only have one option, I really enjoyed jeremiah´s and belly´s friendship through the books and the fact that something out of character on the last book ruined it made me so pissed. I do enjoy the series more! It improved everything about the books.
I liked the show more than the books. The books make the characters unlikeable, in my opinion and I felt that they made Jeremiah a jerk just to make conner look better in the third book and how Conrad and Belly finally got together felt so stupid in my opinion. The show made me a huge Jelly shipper and I do feel bad for Cam in the books and show. Justice for Cam.
Book 1: i would do anything for jeremiah Book 2: conrad is my fav boy and jeremiah acting weird Book 3: jeremiah's character is totally ruined and now conrad feels like the only choice
Watching these videos where YA romance/drama books be recapped feels exactly like listening to ans gossiping with your friends about drama none of you are involved in and I love it
I think the fact that Jenny went through with the whole wedding plot is bonkers. Like I’m down with everything until that point 😂 I think it should have been (and how I hope they go through with in the show) is Jeremiah proposes and Belly realizes how wild and wack that is, breaks up with him, and then slowly reconnects with Conrad, both as adults, and have their happy ending from there.
Edit: I am not down with the Jeremiah “cheating” plot point bc it is so out of character. That’s the only other thing I have beef with though. They should’ve broken up for some other reason, like his insecurities of her relationship with Conrad and shit
Yes, I was hoping that you would do a Books vs Show comparison, and you didn't disappoint! I adored this franchise as a preteen, and still adore it to this very day.
It’s the fact they didn’t keep shayla in the second season but they kept cam but like shayla my favorite character they should’ve kept her in the second season. I’m gonna miss not seeing her smile in the second season with belly brother.
not ONLY did they ruin jeremiah by what he did in cabo, but they threw in random tidbits that made him seem like a terrible character LOL like when him and belly went to look at apartments by campus and it was revealed that he has terrible credit 😭😭😭 like what was the reason
in the last book, Jere just didn't seem like how he was before. You could argue that it had been like 2 years but still then, we didn't see him grow as a person. It was so clear in the first two books that Jere would genuinely never hurt Belly like Conrad would- his whole character changed from somebody who wanted to communicate and be there for his family, someone whose feeling were always pushed to the side, to a frat boy who likes to party with the boys and cared less about what Belly wanted. I agree that he shouldn't have hooked up with anyone but given his whole character, despite it being out of place for Jere, I could sort of see it. His feelings were never validated and the person, your best friend, your love, who validates you pulls away. He was insecure and it just happened. It doesn't excuse it but it explains it. Plus, they were broken up. I really do hope they change season 3 drastically because I truly do believe Jere was and is the better option. I mean, even on their wedding day he backed out because he knew he would never be conrad, once again pushing aside his feelings for everyone else. Let the book be conrad but the show be Jere.
I haven’t read the books and only watched the show, but it seems from your outline of the books, that the show runners are definitely fleshing out the framework in a very significant way and I really like how it’s written. It seems that the writers aren’t afraid to make changes to the original to make a stronger, more fleshed out cohesive story. I’m hoping that if this is the case then they will take similar liberties to the other seasons and am actually hoping they change the narrative as the original books sound a little sloppy :/
Oh hell nah. Thank you for reading the books so I didn't have to. All Bonrad shippers have been saying "read the books", "read the book and you'll understand" every time someone says that they ship Jelly. I'm still Team Jelly. Why? Because it's clear that Jenny just sabotaged Jeremiah's character simply bc she wanted a way to justify Bonrad getting back together despite all of their mess. I swear to god, if they make show Jeremiah cheat and have this whole ridiculous wedding plot I will stop watching the show. I'm not putting up with that madness. If Jenny wants Bonrad to be endgame in the show, she'll have to come up with something more logical.
I’m team Conrad but I GENUINELY do not understand how people love him in the books? 😭 he was so mean and even though he was going through stuff in the books Jeremiah knew everything including the cancer so Conrad was not carrying the burden by himself in the books yet still acted out.
I adore Jere and somehow even more in the show. Gavin is exactly how I imagined him, I mean I didn’t have a set appearance but his personality is perfect. Golden retriever boyfriend I love it. I’m always a sucker for when actors have chemistry like that. Their scenes were the best, that pool scene still has me screaming. AND THE CAR OMG THE CAR KICKING MY FEET AND SHIT. I always liked Jere in the books but I love him in the show. The way he looks at her, his smile, HIS EYES. I hate when ppl make the argument that Jere only wants Belly bc he wants what Conrad has like ppl are you guys blind? Jeremiah has loved Belly for years but he knew the feelings she had for his brother and that in his own weird way Conrad has his own for her. Like cmon guys, ty for this team Jere love rant
Jeremiah has only ever truly cared about Belly and want she wants and what makes her happy For me he is the one who genuinely noticed and cared for her, unlike Conrad who always told her to grow up as though he was taking his own advice
I think this is the only case in which the show is better than the books. I was very disappointed by the third book in particular, and…I’m team Conrad. I think jeremiah was completely out of character in the last book and even if I’m team Conrad for belly, i was very disappointed by the way Jeremiah was portraied because i really liked his character, and i don’t think he is the kind of guy that cheats over his girlfriend…it would make so much sense if their breakup was explained in a different way, without ruining one of the main characters…And all this wedding thing was so crazy and out of the world. And the fact that belly and conrad barely talked once or twice in the whole book and then suddenly they got married at the very last page…there was lack of romance and good dialogues…i hope the third season to be better
Just finished the second book and about to start reading the third. I really want to see how they do season 2 because Belly and Jere weren't a thing UNTIL the 2nd book. So, I wanna see how they handle that.
I read all 3 books before the series ever came out and after reading the first book, I remember being super confused at the start of the second book (because I was team Conrad then) so I skim read that and the third book. And while I always knew Conrad and Belly were endgame, I was so surprised that they didn’t get together/married until the last 4 pages!
Omg finally I was hoping you were going to do this! This is probably one of my favorite shows and I've been meaning to get the books to read them! Thank you
it's really weird but i kinda like the changes they made on the show... Hope they decide to not ruin Jeremiah with this cheating thing, just to gives Belly a reason to not choose him. Thanks for this, now i don't have to waste my time reading this shit! 💘
@@HeatherJames88 but belly still with him after this shit only because she's dumb! Jer sucks on the 3rd book. He did so many mistakes with Belly that doesn't even make sense with his character... it's almost ridiculous! Hope that Jenny decides to change this whole plot, or at least do some changes like they're being officially DONE when he goes to the trip...
I’m seeing this after watching the entirety of the second season. I feel like based on this, the second season was closer to the books than the first season but boy do I hope they have more than 3 seasons and I hope the third season is very different from the books
it's so sad how painfully obvious it is that jenny han had to resort to making jer do something so so beyond out of character and horrible so that conrad is made the final choice. also the way that belly is written as a horrible person and we're supposed to like her? weird
to be fair, the book was written at a time when a guy bullying a girl was still seen as the guy liking her in his weird boyish way, and i think jenny sees the flaws in her books and has stepped up to make all the changes she's thought necessary, which is why i actually prefer the show over the books (which is def not common with adaptations) and i'm just hoping she continues to make wise plot changes in the following seasons
Now listen- I’m a Conrad girly through and through but I do agree that in the third book, Jeremiah seemed to have completely changed. His actions seemed out of character in a sense. This could’ve been from just growing up or maybe those were his true colors but I don’t know it did seem strange. And I agree that Conrad made some very dumb choices and was flaky and selfish at times but weren’t they all? ESPECIALLY Belly playing three boys in one summer. Also Conrad was dealing with stuff that his dad was doing and Susannah’s cancer. Not that it’s an excuse for him to be a douche but he did have a lot on his mind. I think he might’ve been trying to deny his feelings for Belly in a way too because he wanted her and his brother to be happy- or he didn’t want to screw up the dynamic they already had? Which is why he kept making the “she is a kid” comments. But overall I’m glad they all ended up happy and Conrad and Belly are together. ♾️
so here we’re my thoughts on the characters throughout the entire book series 1. Belly- hated her, she’s immature and indecisive Conrad- douche jeremiah- ahahahahahah love him taylor- no. just no. 2. Belly- hated her, she’s immature and indecisive conrad- liked him after i found out he was trying to save the house and felt bad for him jeremiah- i loved his pov and him taylor- she wanted what was best for belly and belly was an awful friend 3. Belly- i hated her, she was immature and indecisive Conrad- I LOVE HIM HE JUST NEEDED SOME TIME TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HE WANTED IN THE FIRST TWO BOOKS. plus the only reason he had given up on belly was cause of his moms dying wish for him to look out for his brother jeremiah- dude wtf you aren’t ready to get married you daddy’s boy taylor- BEST BOOK FRIEND EVER
I am HERE for the belly slander like I feel like everyone either hates Conrad or Jeremiah but no one ever mentions all the shit miss belly Conklin has done like 🤡
Man, I completely agree with you like if Conrad doesn't want to make a move first then what's the point how can he assume that always belly or someone else will find out it's so absurd. I love belly and jere like he's always been open about his feelings for belly and that counts a hell alott!!
i’m kinda worried about the fact that they made Jeremiah bisexual in the show cus if they follow the books then it’s just gonna reinforce the biphobic stereotype that bi people are cheaters and are never satisfied and that makes me v angry. I hope that doesn’t happen but it prob will
Jeremiah was made bi in the show which is kind of a worse decision because now he's going to represent a bad trope for bi people that they can't be trusted/promiscuous. Let's see how this turns out ☕
Guys I get it that people are mad about Jeremiah’s character in the last book but can we talk about Conrad?? Like the guy was willing to STEAL his whole brother’s fiancé the weekend before their WEDDING without any regard to how Jeremiah would be affected by this. Heck he didn’t even care how Belly would be affected by this by putting her in an awkward position like that. He was completely selfish and only cared about himself and what he wanted instead of holding back and returning the same respect that was given to him by Jeremiah for years. Plus, if you ask me Jeremiah’s only flaw in the third book was that he was immature. Belly was emotionally cheating on him with Conrad and Conrad was willing to break up their engagement and wedding of his own brother.
I read the books about 10 years ago and I knew I didn't remember the whole debutante ball thing and Taylor stuff. To be honest I barely remember anything from the books (I didn't even remember Steven) but that part just felt so unfamiliar when watching the show. Also I for some reason going into the show I thought Jeremiah was the older one not Conrad. I do however remember always being team Jeremiah. Now a days I'm team no dating a pair of brothers. Edit: omg wow just finished the video I really didn't remember anything past the first book so dramatic and crazy. Thanks for summarizing!
right? i read the first two books 4 or 5 years ago and binged the series a few weeks ago and… wow. I honestly gave up on the third book because I didn’t like how the series was going. Either way I don’t remember half of what happened. 🤷♀️ I think The Summer I Turned Pretty is a lot like To All the Boys I Loved before in that the show/movie is very different from the book, and so I look at them as two separate entities. While TALIB is better in the books (with good movies), TSITP is sooo much better as a show because of the creative liberties Jenny Han has taken with the reinterpretation. I hope she ends up making Belly and Jere end game because they seem to balance each other better than Belly and Conrad. This may be too far for a silly show interpretation, but I think that the people who ship Belly and Conrad are too similar to those who ship Bella and Edward in Twilight; they see the dominating, controlling, and manipulative relationships as romantic when they are toxic. Jere and Belly’s relationship is less serious and more true to its teenage nature, but the age gap and idolization of Conrad combined with his loner/stubborn personality just don’t add up to a healthy relationship.
@@chloefender1691I also read TSITP 1 around that time! I don't remember much but I do remember I did NOT like conrad fbfbfbfjb 💔 Considering how things went in the following books I'm sorta glad I didn't read on; but looking at the show now I think I'm both with OP on "team don't mess around with two brothers" and still, just a little, team Jeremiah. His and Belly's dynamic reminds me a lot of me and my boyfriend, along with comfortable moments with past crushes; However, if I was in Belly's romantic situation, I would not be pursuing my unsure and fluctuating love for two brothers and just work on myself instead lol But I am not the character, have not watched enough of the show, and I don't remember half the plot of the book so I can't judge 😅 rubs me the wrong way is all. I'm just surprised that the silly book I read years back got this sort of adaptation! Oh how the world works sometimes 😊
@@candlecord honestly, after this season’s somehow simultaneous departure and return to the books (departure in the ways of skye & those side plots (honestly didn’t get this far in the books lol), and return in the ways of belly’s childish nature) i’m team anti-belly too…
i got this book when i was like 15 in the summer at sams club and it was all in one book split into 3 diff sections for the different books👌🏼 it was so perfect and it’s so funny seeing all the people talking about it now especially since most people have read the books😢😢😢
Like i have African parents so i have been hit with a belt on the hands as a discipline, buy outright slapped in the face out of anger? that's CRAZY. if she had been slapped by her father ppl wouldn't have been fine, so why is it okay with laurel? smh
So true, I really don’t like when people say they’re like my sister/brother … it’s just… no, how about no lol Also, so true, it makes me sad to see they had to make jere do such a messed up thing, didn’t seem like his personality
I just read the last book a few weeks back and I've never been more furious reading something, if I could had gave given it 0 of 5 stars in good read I would had. It pissed me off so much, I'm still bitter about it
Marriage being a solution sounds crazy but the crazy thing is, my best friend IRL did this same exact thing. He cheated on his girlfriend while deployed, confessed, then he proposed. SHE SAID YES. I mean what. the. HELL. Anyway, love the series 😂 Can’t wait for Chap 2 ❤️
The issues with Belly's( Isabel Susannah Conklin) personality in the books vs. The T.V. series is that certain plot lines were altered/changed completely. Like Taylor going off on Belly in the show about being self-absorbed felt wrong cause it was season 1 and Belly hadn't done any of that yet and so far all Belly has done was try to find herself and be independent of Taylor while having other female friends! But book Belly would have deserved Taylor going off on her with how Belly reacts to Taylor kissing Steven in the books! Also making Belly break up with Conrad in the show when in the books he dumps her instead. Makes Jeremiah's monologue about Show!Conrad being a "coward" seem pointless as he didn't actually drop Belly like Book! Conrad did. There are certain kinds of dialogue in the show that felt directed at the book characters, but these characters were altered for the show so it doesn't hit the same.
Her choice being Conrad and her eyes only being for Conrad is very disappointing and feels like it’s romanticizing hard settling for someone who doesn’t deserve you. I would have chosen neither after the wedding planning of Jeremiah and Belly. Neither relationship will be healthy and fuck it, I would believe in love striking once more because plenty of people find a second solid and happy love they feel is equal to the first real strong one. Now if I had no choice but to choose between the two, it would be Jeremiah, but on the condition they had given it a nice long break, and grew up some more. All of them were very immature and I’m sorry but if Communication is a weak to non existent pillar in any love relationship, it will never work in the long run and divorce will be inevitable. It may be a year it may be 15, but eventually the one who gets shut out all the time and put on the back burner gets so sick of it, it creates resentment. I would rather a partner who communicates their needs, likes and hurts like Jeremiah even if it hits childish and salty notes hopefully much more rarely after given time, at least he is keeping the communication pillar strong. Immaturity gets grown out of eventually especially when you have examples surrounding you to help you grow out of it, communication issues on the other hand needs yers and yrs of therapy and even then it’s a low success rate with couples that have such horrible issues as Conrad and Belly. Its like a choice between divorce in 20 yrs as friends with some kids that are mostly grown up and co-parenting but he’s always showing up for you and the kids, or divorce in 5-15 with a shitty custody battle due to resentment and sucking at communicating while he’s still being flaky af with you and the kids. Again though, I’d rather say fuck it and move on from the boys and just keep it as friends and find someone who is there for me and accepts me for me like Jeremiah but makes the heart pound like Conrad. No compromises on a good for me kind of love man. As so many people who have had a divorce give as advice man, just being in love is never enough in the long run. Sorry for the long ass essay, just my thoughts.
i love jeremiah but there is NO redeemable factor for a cheater i am sorry. it is so out of character, sure, but we shouldnt make that a reason to justify him actually cheating... and then proposing as an apology for cheating THEN talk about said cheating with his friends while DRUNK
i’m not sure if you’ve read any books from The Cupcake Diaries series by Coco Simon, but i would die for a video about it from you 😍 it was and still is one of my favourites 🧁
tysm Amanda! since i know all of this info from the books and the show, I don't feel as much pressure to read the books before the second season comes since I didn't finish the 1st season due to me wanting to read the books first. so um yes, thank you so much again for telling me this infooo
I loved the way you summed up all the drama of this saga, it was very entertaining. and although i'm team conrad,i agree that the author should have thought of another way to reunite conrad and belly, more natural and not so forced with jeremahia's infidelity.
the whole premise of pitting two brothers again and again for some girl YES some girl feels totally WRONG VERY VERY WRONG. I don't think the author knows what a bond between brothers is, its laying their own life for each other. No brothers would let any girl get between them to this extent. Blood brothers dont let their own cousins or families between them and this is just some girl.
My overall opinion on the characters were Conrad - needed to learn how to convey his feelings better because all he did was string belly along and then drop her when things got hard Jeremiah- he was fun but DEF was a lil to immature for me,and poor anger management was definitely something I noticed about him(side note,to me at least cheating is definitely something he would do) Belly - she got better in the third book but the first two books my only feelings about about her was she was a major d-rider and she dtm.She was just overall embarrassing…like girl we’re rooting for u,stop🤦🏾♀️ Taylor - like belly she got better in the third book but the first two books she was a terrible friend and basically wanted belly to be her mini In the end to me the books and the show are to different to compare but personally I like the show better because it makes the character more like able,also it seems like more is going on,and one more REALLY big thing…JUSTICE FOR CAM CAMERON
I'm just PRAYING that the prom night is still a big thing in season 2. haven't seen anything from it yet in the trailers. given that we got the debutant ball in season 1, I'm worried :|
Wow, I never read the books but I am pretty sure I would have DNf'ed it at that wedding plot point. I hate these type of ludicrous plots authors only make up for drama's sake, they never make sense from the character's perspective!
I agree. Conrad sucks! God I hated his personality. Everytime he talked or did something in the books I was so annoyed, like STFU...STOP. I think it's pretty obvious that I'm infinity% team Jeremiah... I adore Jeremiah (in the book and in the series). Hope the series deviates from the book and Belly stays with Jeremiah and Conrad dies🤞
I temper my bestie being obsessed with the books and she would not stop going on about how weirdly out of character Jeremiah was written in book 3, and I was just like dude I didn’t read any of the bookssss, but it seems like she was no alone in her opinion
I watched like two or three episodes of the show. I'm not a big romance fan and I don't really like love (tri)angle. But I was ready to give it a try because To All The Boys was not that bad. Plus, the music in the show is so good! But Belly was SO ANNOYING, I didn't liked Conrad nor Jeremiah... The whole "she's like a little sister to me" was said so much at the beginning, and I'm like "yeah no, don't say that". Maybe you will talk about that, because I'm still at the beginning but yeah, I couldn't finished the show...
I forgot that some of the chapters from the second book are from Jeremiah's perspective. they included some of that in this week's episode and it was great!
I speed read through the books while waiting for season 2 to finish and my thoughts are this: The show is much better. The characters feel more complex, developed, and are just generally better. Conrad is better, Jeremiah is better, Laurel is better and so on. I felt the book characters seemed flat and one dimensional and the filming of the show really shows the complexity of their emotions and subsequent actions (i.e. Conrad ). I hope season 3 goes in a different direction than the books honestly because it was just a wild ride that made no sense.
The person who wrote The Summer I Turned Pretty also wrote To All The Boys I've Loved Before and in the books Peter is a huge Asshole, but they soften him up for the movie version lol. So similar issues in both series occurred actually.
Anyways I love the show characters WAY more they’re better, like belly is so mean in the book, jere went from golden retriever to golden retriever frat boy, and Conrad was Conrad
I have never read these books or watched the show. But oof, after watching this video I’m questioning a lot of the choices made by certain characters. Like they really are something else whenever a love triangle’s involved 😂
never read nor watched the show, but as someone with a sister so close to my age imagining someone continuously going back and forth between us is insane, imagine that family dynamic!!! I could even imagine us kissing the same guy, no no no no!
I read the summer I turned pretty and to all the boys I loved before when I was a freshman in Highschool, it’s crazy that these books and even the DUFF get to be on screen 😂 makes me feel kind of old.
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I HATE when authors make a love interest do something awful so the main character never really has to make a choice.
I mean it was completely honest who she liked so I felt like her choice was already made. Although the cheating thing I feel like wasn’t that unpredictable but that might just be bc Jere always made me feel gross💀
@@hayleysantos3648 I'm team Conrad as well, even if Jere never hooked up with that girl. I just see this trope over and over where a writer will destroy a perfect good character's reputation so the readers and main character are almost pushed to choose the main love interest. I'd rather not have the whole weird cheating thing and random engagement part of this book at all.
This is why I love Cheese in the Trap so much both the guys are amazing and have a close (but different) relationship to the main girl
Gale, for exampleeee
@@kennalime5644gale was really toxic to katniss before the prim thing happened. And she only relied on gale because peeta couldn't be there.
In the first two books Jeremiah always seemed better than Conrad, and I felt like in the last book they made Jeremiah look worse just so Conrad would seem like a better choice in comparison. I was sad that they basically ruined Jeremiah’s character in the process. Overall I love the books but I wish they had gotten to the ending in a different way!
you couldn't say it better, they totally did that to make Conrad look better, tbh it was so unexpected and out of pocket 😕
I am one of those people who thought he didn’t cheat because it really sounded like a breakup even though belly just said it in the heat of the moment.
But agree that they did not need to make him immature and a jerk just to make Conrad looked better. And I felt Conrad, himself did that which makes it worse because he was undermining his own brother.
I 100% disagree I got vibes from him since the first book. I couldn’t even describe it the way he acted just made me feel so icky and gross
Jeremiah was always a frat boy. I’m convinced y’all wanted to look over that because Conrad was being an ass
@@Laurica-lb6nv maybe, but some of it was played up. I get he was having fun in college, but I felt Han took away his good qualities and played up the frat behavior to make Conrad look better.
Yeah skipping out on the wedding duties wasn’t good, but while I did not want them to get married, I didn’t want them to break up yet either.
I still felt he still cared about Belly despite all of this, but wasn’t ready to be married which makes sense.
But book 2 Jeremiah didn’t match book 3 version of him, if that makes sense.
Justice for our man Cam Cameron. He deserved better
REALLL THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING
Fr 😭 Like the moment she cut the relationship, it was obvious to me she was just using him so Conrad would be jealous 😭 I aint on none of the characters side on the show but a lot of then could have had better, especially cam, just tryna be innocent and sweet to her 😢
I love cam he my hubby
he is better than both of the fisher boys. period.
cam holds a special place in my heart
I also liked taylor and belly’s friendship better in the show because belly wasn’t annoyed with taylor the whole time. It felt more genuine and taylor was more supportive of belly instead of just shooting her down. They had their issues and arguments, but once they communicated, they were able to be friends again.
I didn’t get this in the books.
YES!
Taylor was a terrible person in the show tho😭. She was so toxic to belly sometimes especially when it came to the hooking up with her brother part and when she first came to the house on belly’s birthday, when she kept shutting belly down to flirt with Jeremiah. Or when she was a homewrecker, multiple times.
Pretty sure she also couldn’t handle belly having other friends and making belly feel bad bc Taylor wasn’t the most important person in her life.
God I hope she has a better personality in the next season.
@@Njx063I think Taylor is the reason why Shayla isn’t with Steven anymore in my opinion though xD. 😂❤
I dont hate none of the characters, but they could be always better!! 😀
@@Njx063I'm late to the party and only began watching the show yesterday. Currently I am in the middle of episode 4. In Belly's birthday episode, when Taylor came to Cousins to celebrate, I couldn't help but notice how Taylor kept dismissing Belly when Taylor, Belly and Jere were all having ice cream. And how Taylor hit Nicole with the ball on purpose. But then at the beach she was all "Belly, promise me we'll always stay best friends" and it just infuriated me. She seems like wants to one-up Belly, but she's also jealous of Belly making other friends? Anyway, I really hated her character and thought the Beylor friendship was just really weird and unhealthy, so I agree with your comment.
Hmm i got a completely different vibes from Taylor. I think she feels excluded. She stays home and isn’t really a part of cousins beach gang . Just a visitor. And usually the stories just included the boys but now belly has new girlfriends. Not saying it’s right to lash out! But I feel for her!. Also belly only ever talks about her problems. We now hardly anything about Taylor’s problems. ( or maybe I just can’t remember)
i thought Conrad was SO much meaner in the books; the show is redeeming his character and making him more sympathetic to the audience
LITERALLY because in the show he says "i dont want you ANYMORE" and in the books he said "I dont want you and i never did"
@@aydan04 Literally! Book Conrad was an asshole.
THIS IS EXACTLY IT! Like Jeremiah was so written out of character in the third book! I'm like HOW DARE you do my boy Jere like this?!?!?!!?!?!? It really felt like exactly what you said- Belly was always gonna go to Conrad, but Jenny Han didn't have to hurt my boy like this? Aboslutey excellent video!! Loved it
TBHHH (and i mean this very lightheartedly) jeremiah asking belly to marry him did feel on character bc he seemed like an all or nothing kind of guy in the other books ESPECIALLY after susannah passed away; he probably had some sort of revived motivation to live effortlessly if that makes sense, take chances and do things that scare him. i am more than sure as someone who is starting university (i can't remember exactly how old he is by the time him and belly are in college) and who is still in the healing process after losing his mother to cancer, he felt the need to do something dangerous
maybe i didn't explain myself too well but poke holes in that explanation as you will lmao
@@gaiaowu9862 Jeremiah is very much an all or nothing kind of person. And that it what I love about him. When he wants you, he's open about it and never lets you feel like he doesn't want you. But him randomly springing a wedding on Belly simply to try to salvage his relationship after "cheating" is a little too OOC for me. Him cheating seemed like a plot device to get Bonrad together, not something that I could actually see him doing. I honestly don't see either of the brothers cheating on Belly (even if I do have qualms against Conrad). That almost felt like a step too far. lmao
I think it seemed out of no where for a lot of readers because it seemed out of nowhere for Belly. The story is told exclusively from her pov, she doesn’t see either of the brothers for who they are because she is still an average teenager that sees the world for how it relates to her since her world view hasn’t been expanded yet. This is a reason I prefer the show more because we see the characters independent of Belly and of her lens of the events. The show is more clear how Jeremiah is a happy go lucky extroverted guy that enjoys being the center of the party. So it’s no surprise he ends up in a fraternity and looks for solace in his previous single guy lifestyle when Belly breaks up with him. She took him for granted because in the past he was her best friend that was always there for her and lacked the foresight that only comes from experience to think about how that dynamic would be shifted since they were romantically involved. Then being a guy that puts his all into the people he loves, for him there was no better way to show the importance of his relationship with Belly than to ask her to marry him because to him that’s the ultimate romantic commitment.
I honestly don’t think until her relationships with everyone is tested because of this engagement does Belly actually grow significantly as a person to see the world beyond herself. She doesn’t see either of the boys clearly until after this event and then it’s clear how her gut was right that Conrad was reason😮choice. He is steady in the ways she needs a partner to be and compliments both her faults and positive attributes with his own.
Cheating was probably the most in character thing jeremiah ever did
@@riotz101 Not really. He’s a very loyal person. You can see by the way in book 1 he would always make excuses for Conrad’s behavior and even respected his boundaries even if it hurt him. Also when Jeremiah stuck behind to catch sea crabs with Belly even though the boys said they wouldn’t let him play the video game if he didn’t come buy it. These, ofc, are only specific examples, but it goes to show his general character.
Jeremiah is a flirt. He’s said it himself, people have said it about him, and his actions have shown that. But he never gave cheater. Which in-fact, he still doesn’t because he didn’t actually cheat. They had broken up. Being a flirt or even liking partying doesn’t mean that someone gives cheating vibes.
when you said “im not a conrad stan, im a jeremiah defender” i screamed!!!! i have been saying this for so long!! third book is soooo ooc for jere i cant read it anymore.
not only did the books completely ruin jeremiah by making him a nasty cheating frat boy, but they totally skip over the two years that he and belly were together, so the readers don’t have time to get emotionally attached to their relationship 😐😐😐
they weren’t together 😭 also it’s in character because jeremiah is impulsive
@@miaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa13 they were together for 2 years love, and no hes not
@@cluelessgirl2245 they broke up for a week when jeremiah went to cabo
@@miaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa13read the book
@@miaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa13i think it’s more so that Jeremiah is insecure and usually sex can give people the illusion of being wanted. In the books, belly didn’t sleep with him during their relationship and after a fight where they angrily ended things, he wanted physical comfort and got it
Jere was 100% the best option until Jenny Han had to make him bad/ irredeemable so Belly could be with Conrad SMH
he was kind of annoying being such a f boy
@@meeraabubakr honestly, I absolutely DESPISED Conrad since the beginning, he was such a self-centered asshole and i dont know how to describe it but his behaviour just made me feel so icky and disgusted. They did my Jere SO wrong in book 3 💀
@@agrumecitrus4336in the show Conrad is lovely. He has all the right motivations. He’s brooding and withdrawn but only because he’s too hard on himself. Idk about the books
@@naika7 i can understand that hes extremely sad about his mother and such, but that doesnt mean he has to ba an asshole to everyone and neglect those around him
@@agrumecitrus4336 he is a teenager.
I feel so validated reading that people agree that Jeremiah was completely changed on the last book to make belly only have one option, I really enjoyed jeremiah´s and belly´s friendship through the books and the fact that something out of character on the last book ruined it made me so pissed. I do enjoy the series more! It improved everything about the books.
I liked the show more than the books. The books make the characters unlikeable, in my opinion and I felt that they made Jeremiah a jerk just to make conner look better in the third book and how Conrad and Belly finally got together felt so stupid in my opinion.
The show made me a huge Jelly shipper and I do feel bad for Cam in the books and show. Justice for Cam.
Book 1: i would do anything for jeremiah
Book 2: conrad is my fav boy and jeremiah acting weird
Book 3: jeremiah's character is totally ruined and now conrad feels like the only choice
wait how was jeremiah acting weird in the second book? genuinely asking lol
Watching these videos where YA romance/drama books be recapped feels exactly like listening to ans gossiping with your friends about drama none of you are involved in and I love it
8:45 THANK YOU!! The amount of times she sticks her tongue out at people. Like she’s acting likes she’s 9
I think the fact that Jenny went through with the whole wedding plot is bonkers. Like I’m down with everything until that point 😂 I think it should have been (and how I hope they go through with in the show) is Jeremiah proposes and Belly realizes how wild and wack that is, breaks up with him, and then slowly reconnects with Conrad, both as adults, and have their happy ending from there.
Edit: I am not down with the Jeremiah “cheating” plot point bc it is so out of character. That’s the only other thing I have beef with though. They should’ve broken up for some other reason, like his insecurities of her relationship with Conrad and shit
Yes, I was hoping that you would do a Books vs Show comparison, and you didn't disappoint! I adored this franchise as a preteen, and still adore it to this very day.
Sorry if this is weird, but I feel like we watch like all the same channels. I see your comments everywhere, it's really cool.
@@leslie.fromthevault. same!
I just came to this comment to say the same thing lol
It’s the fact they didn’t keep shayla in the second season but they kept cam but like shayla my favorite character they should’ve kept her in the second season. I’m gonna miss not seeing her smile in the second season with belly brother.
For real tho, even her existence was adding a beauty to show. So far i am not loving this change
Same i loved shayla! She was a strong, kind, sweet and independent woman. Even if her and steven weren’t together it would’ve been fine :(
They only removed her so he could have a relationship with taylor
Although I’m not 100% sure, I think her actress wanted to focus on other projects and finish college and chose not to return, but I may be wrong
not ONLY did they ruin jeremiah by what he did in cabo, but they threw in random tidbits that made him seem like a terrible character LOL like when him and belly went to look at apartments by campus and it was revealed that he has terrible credit 😭😭😭 like what was the reason
nah but Jenny was either high or she just fcukin hated his character
in the last book, Jere just didn't seem like how he was before.
You could argue that it had been like 2 years but still then, we didn't see him grow as a person. It was so clear in the first two books that Jere would genuinely never hurt Belly like Conrad would- his whole character changed from somebody who wanted to communicate and be there for his family, someone whose feeling were always pushed to the side, to a frat boy who likes to party with the boys and cared less about what Belly wanted.
I agree that he shouldn't have hooked up with anyone but given his whole character, despite it being out of place for Jere, I could sort of see it. His feelings were never validated and the person, your best friend, your love, who validates you pulls away. He was insecure and it just happened. It doesn't excuse it but it explains it. Plus, they were broken up.
I really do hope they change season 3 drastically because I truly do believe Jere was and is the better option. I mean, even on their wedding day he backed out because he knew he would never be conrad, once again pushing aside his feelings for everyone else.
Let the book be conrad but the show be Jere.
I haven’t read the books and only watched the show, but it seems from your outline of the books, that the show runners are definitely fleshing out the framework in a very significant way and I really like how it’s written. It seems that the writers aren’t afraid to make changes to the original to make a stronger, more fleshed out cohesive story. I’m hoping that if this is the case then they will take similar liberties to the other seasons and am actually hoping they change the narrative as the original books sound a little sloppy :/
Oh hell nah. Thank you for reading the books so I didn't have to. All Bonrad shippers have been saying "read the books", "read the book and you'll understand" every time someone says that they ship Jelly. I'm still Team Jelly. Why? Because it's clear that Jenny just sabotaged Jeremiah's character simply bc she wanted a way to justify Bonrad getting back together despite all of their mess. I swear to god, if they make show Jeremiah cheat and have this whole ridiculous wedding plot I will stop watching the show. I'm not putting up with that madness. If Jenny wants Bonrad to be endgame in the show, she'll have to come up with something more logical.
Jere cheating would seem soooo off given how they wrote him in the show lol
@@michaelrichardi6047 exactly. Jenny better not do him like that again
I’m team Conrad but I GENUINELY do not understand how people love him in the books? 😭 he was so mean and even though he was going through stuff in the books Jeremiah knew everything including the cancer so Conrad was not carrying the burden by himself in the books yet still acted out.
Literally book Conrad was an asshole for no reason
I love belly but that was wild of her to wear the necklace when conrad didn’t even give it to her
fr 😭
I have never read the book or watch the show but honestly i still am gonna watch it
Same
Same!
Same
I adore Jere and somehow even more in the show. Gavin is exactly how I imagined him, I mean I didn’t have a set appearance but his personality is perfect. Golden retriever boyfriend I love it. I’m always a sucker for when actors have chemistry like that. Their scenes were the best, that pool scene still has me screaming. AND THE CAR OMG THE CAR KICKING MY FEET AND SHIT. I always liked Jere in the books but I love him in the show. The way he looks at her, his smile, HIS EYES. I hate when ppl make the argument that Jere only wants Belly bc he wants what Conrad has like ppl are you guys blind? Jeremiah has loved Belly for years but he knew the feelings she had for his brother and that in his own weird way Conrad has his own for her. Like cmon guys, ty for this team Jere love rant
Jeremiah has only ever truly cared about Belly and want she wants and what makes her happy
For me he is the one who genuinely noticed and cared for her, unlike Conrad who always told her to grow up as though he was taking his own advice
So true🎉🎉🎉
I think this is the only case in which the show is better than the books. I was very disappointed by the third book in particular, and…I’m team Conrad. I think jeremiah was completely out of character in the last book and even if I’m team Conrad for belly, i was very disappointed by the way Jeremiah was portraied because i really liked his character, and i don’t think he is the kind of guy that cheats over his girlfriend…it would make so much sense if their breakup was explained in a different way, without ruining one of the main characters…And all this wedding thing was so crazy and out of the world. And the fact that belly and conrad barely talked once or twice in the whole book and then suddenly they got married at the very last page…there was lack of romance and good dialogues…i hope the third season to be better
I feel like the princess diaries book series would make a great recap video as those books are so unhinged
YES
Just finished the second book and about to start reading the third. I really want to see how they do season 2 because Belly and Jere weren't a thing UNTIL the 2nd book. So, I wanna see how they handle that.
"conrad lowkey sucks" is the key takeaway from this video HAHAHAHA
I read all 3 books before the series ever came out and after reading the first book, I remember being super confused at the start of the second book (because I was team Conrad then) so I skim read that and the third book. And while I always knew Conrad and Belly were endgame, I was so surprised that they didn’t get together/married until the last 4 pages!
Book 3 end game conrade???
@@shake787 Yep. Conrad is endgame for Belly
YES FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT. I HATE HATE HATE THE WAY CONRAD ALWAYS CALLS HER A KID BUT THEN HE ALSO KISSES HER AT THE END OF THE BOOK SO LIKE WHATTTT
Omg finally I was hoping you were going to do this! This is probably one of my favorite shows and I've been meaning to get the books to read them! Thank you
I like the fact that your narrating the plot and balancing it with your opinion but not overdoing it
“these silly silly brothers” that sums up the entire series
it's really weird but i kinda like the changes they made on the show... Hope they decide to not ruin Jeremiah with this cheating thing, just to gives Belly a reason to not choose him.
Thanks for this, now i don't have to waste my time reading this shit! 💘
Belly still chose Jeremiah after the “cheating” thing. Jere is the one that called off the wedding in the end.
@@HeatherJames88 but belly still with him after this shit only because she's dumb! Jer sucks on the 3rd book. He did so many mistakes with Belly that doesn't even make sense with his character... it's almost ridiculous! Hope that Jenny decides to change this whole plot, or at least do some changes like they're being officially DONE when he goes to the trip...
SLAY AMANDA GET THAT BAG
I’m seeing this after watching the entirety of the second season. I feel like based on this, the second season was closer to the books than the first season but boy do I hope they have more than 3 seasons and I hope the third season is very different from the books
it's so sad how painfully obvious it is that jenny han had to resort to making jer do something so so beyond out of character and horrible so that conrad is made the final choice. also the way that belly is written as a horrible person and we're supposed to like her? weird
I wish the books had ended with Belly in Europe and her whole future ahead instead of the flash forward to the Belly and Conrad wedding…
How could you be engaged to one brother and marry the other, I’d be so weirded out also the poor kids/nieces and nephew when they hear that story 💀🤣
to be fair, the book was written at a time when a guy bullying a girl was still seen as the guy liking her in his weird boyish way, and i think jenny sees the flaws in her books and has stepped up to make all the changes she's thought necessary, which is why i actually prefer the show over the books (which is def not common with adaptations) and i'm just hoping she continues to make wise plot changes in the following seasons
Now listen- I’m a Conrad girly through and through but I do agree that in the third book, Jeremiah seemed to have completely changed. His actions seemed out of character in a sense. This could’ve been from just growing up or maybe those were his true colors but I don’t know it did seem strange. And I agree that Conrad made some very dumb choices and was flaky and selfish at times but weren’t they all? ESPECIALLY Belly playing three boys in one summer. Also Conrad was dealing with stuff that his dad was doing and Susannah’s cancer. Not that it’s an excuse for him to be a douche but he did have a lot on his mind. I think he might’ve been trying to deny his feelings for Belly in a way too because he wanted her and his brother to be happy- or he didn’t want to screw up the dynamic they already had? Which is why he kept making the “she is a kid” comments. But overall I’m glad they all ended up happy and Conrad and Belly are together. ♾️
They just needed to make jere look bad. Also do the brothers end up enemies ? Or is like cool you merry her
@@eduardocod8924they kinda gloss over that too. we don’t know really what jeremiah thinks about belly and conrad getting married
I do agree that belly was playing cam cameron in book 1 but I don't think she played Jeremiah at all, she was honest with him that she liked Conrad
Totally agree with you
so here we’re my thoughts on the characters throughout the entire book series
1.
Belly- hated her, she’s immature and indecisive
Conrad- douche
jeremiah- ahahahahahah love him
taylor- no. just no.
2.
Belly- hated her, she’s immature and indecisive
conrad- liked him after i found out he was trying to save the house and felt bad for him
jeremiah- i loved his pov and him
taylor- she wanted what was best for belly and belly was an awful friend
3.
Belly- i hated her, she was immature and indecisive
Conrad- I LOVE HIM HE JUST NEEDED SOME TIME TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HE WANTED IN THE FIRST TWO BOOKS. plus the only reason he had given up on belly was cause of his moms dying wish for him to look out for his brother
jeremiah- dude wtf you aren’t ready to get married you daddy’s boy
taylor- BEST BOOK FRIEND EVER
bro i totally agree with your opinion on belly she was indecisive fr🙄
“You daddys boy” 😂😂😂😂
Belly is the real villain
I am HERE for the belly slander like I feel like everyone either hates Conrad or Jeremiah but no one ever mentions all the shit miss belly Conklin has done like 🤡
I was bamboozled when I saw Jeremiah suddenly proposing to her right when he was apologizing for cheating on her like 😭 u barely have a jobbbb
Man, I completely agree with you like if Conrad doesn't want to make a move first then what's the point how can he assume that always belly or someone else will find out it's so absurd. I love belly and jere like he's always been open about his feelings for belly and that counts a hell alott!!
jenny tried so hard to make conrad seem like the better choice in the third book-
i’m kinda worried about the fact that they made Jeremiah bisexual in the show cus if they follow the books then it’s just gonna reinforce the biphobic stereotype that bi people are cheaters and are never satisfied and that makes me v angry. I hope that doesn’t happen but it prob will
Jeremiah was made bi in the show which is kind of a worse decision because now he's going to represent a bad trope for bi people that they can't be trusted/promiscuous. Let's see how this turns out ☕
I didn't even think of this oh no 🥲
That's why I think there gonna change it
So was Cleveland so not necessarily
I just know he is gonna cheat with a man to remind everyone he’s bi and further feed into the foolishness that surrounds bi people.
Yeah this is a reach 😂 you guys and the victimization I haven’t heard one bad thing about him being bi , it’s just you reflecting
Thanks for recapping not just the show but the books too!
I remember reading these books in middle school when they first came out and to see them be turned into a show is so cool
Guys I get it that people are mad about Jeremiah’s character in the last book but can we talk about Conrad?? Like the guy was willing to STEAL his whole brother’s fiancé the weekend before their WEDDING without any regard to how Jeremiah would be affected by this. Heck he didn’t even care how Belly would be affected by this by putting her in an awkward position like that. He was completely selfish and only cared about himself and what he wanted instead of holding back and returning the same respect that was given to him by Jeremiah for years. Plus, if you ask me Jeremiah’s only flaw in the third book was that he was immature. Belly was emotionally cheating on him with Conrad and Conrad was willing to break up their engagement and wedding of his own brother.
been loving these book recap videos!! crossed my fingers for an unhinged recap of the school for good and evil series lol
I read the books about 10 years ago and I knew I didn't remember the whole debutante ball thing and Taylor stuff. To be honest I barely remember anything from the books (I didn't even remember Steven) but that part just felt so unfamiliar when watching the show. Also I for some reason going into the show I thought Jeremiah was the older one not Conrad. I do however remember always being team Jeremiah. Now a days I'm team no dating a pair of brothers.
Edit: omg wow just finished the video I really didn't remember anything past the first book so dramatic and crazy. Thanks for summarizing!
right? i read the first two books 4 or 5 years ago and binged the series a few weeks ago and… wow. I honestly gave up on the third book because I didn’t like how the series was going. Either way I don’t remember half of what happened. 🤷♀️ I think The Summer I Turned Pretty is a lot like To All the Boys I Loved before in that the show/movie is very different from the book, and so I look at them as two separate entities. While TALIB is better in the books (with good movies), TSITP is sooo much better as a show because of the creative liberties Jenny Han has taken with the reinterpretation. I hope she ends up making Belly and Jere end game because they seem to balance each other better than Belly and Conrad.
This may be too far for a silly show interpretation, but I think that the people who ship Belly and Conrad are too similar to those who ship Bella and Edward in Twilight; they see the dominating, controlling, and manipulative relationships as romantic when they are toxic. Jere and Belly’s relationship is less serious and more true to its teenage nature, but the age gap and idolization of Conrad combined with his loner/stubborn personality just don’t add up to a healthy relationship.
@@chloefender1691I also read TSITP 1 around that time! I don't remember much but I do remember I did NOT like conrad fbfbfbfjb 💔
Considering how things went in the following books I'm sorta glad I didn't read on; but looking at the show now I think I'm both with OP on "team don't mess around with two brothers" and still, just a little, team Jeremiah. His and Belly's dynamic reminds me a lot of me and my boyfriend, along with comfortable moments with past crushes; However, if I was in Belly's romantic situation, I would not be pursuing my unsure and fluctuating love for two brothers and just work on myself instead lol
But I am not the character, have not watched enough of the show, and I don't remember half the plot of the book so I can't judge 😅 rubs me the wrong way is all. I'm just surprised that the silly book I read years back got this sort of adaptation! Oh how the world works sometimes 😊
@@candlecord honestly, after this season’s somehow simultaneous departure and return to the books (departure in the ways of skye & those side plots (honestly didn’t get this far in the books lol), and return in the ways of belly’s childish nature) i’m team anti-belly too…
i got this book when i was like 15 in the summer at sams club and it was all in one book split into 3 diff sections for the different books👌🏼 it was so perfect and it’s so funny seeing all the people talking about it now especially since most people have read the books😢😢😢
12:26 I haaaaaate it in books/TV shows when parents slap their kids and then all is forgiven, if my mom slapped me I would not get over it lol
Like i have African parents so i have been hit with a belt on the hands as a discipline, buy outright slapped in the face out of anger? that's CRAZY. if she had been slapped by her father ppl wouldn't have been fine, so why is it okay with laurel? smh
@@samcarmenBecause they think Belly deserved to be slapped. I don't think the parent has anything to do with it.
@@obehiikhigbonoaremen1241 her mother being the slapping her in the face is very much important, but I could see that
Hopefully in the show they will make belly make a fair choice without making jeremiah "cheat" which is completely out of character.
So true, I really don’t like when people say they’re like my sister/brother … it’s just… no, how about no lol
Also, so true, it makes me sad to see they had to make jere do such a messed up thing, didn’t seem like his personality
I just read the last book a few weeks back and I've never been more furious reading something, if I could had gave given it 0 of 5 stars in good read I would had. It pissed me off so much, I'm still bitter about it
Marriage being a solution sounds crazy but the crazy thing is, my best friend IRL did this same exact thing. He cheated on his girlfriend while deployed, confessed, then he proposed. SHE SAID YES. I mean what. the. HELL.
Anyway, love the series 😂 Can’t wait for Chap 2 ❤️
I feel like I watched a show or read a book that had that exact thing happen 😂
I do wish that 1, Jeremiah hadn’t gotten with that girl, and 2, Conrad like didn’t exist or smth
The issues with Belly's( Isabel Susannah Conklin) personality in the books vs. The T.V. series is that certain plot lines were altered/changed completely. Like Taylor going off on Belly in the show about being self-absorbed felt wrong cause it was season 1 and Belly hadn't done any of that yet and so far all Belly has done was try to find herself and be independent of Taylor while having other female friends! But book Belly would have deserved Taylor going off on her with how Belly reacts to Taylor kissing Steven in the books! Also making Belly break up with Conrad in the show when in the books he dumps her instead. Makes Jeremiah's monologue about Show!Conrad being a "coward" seem pointless as he didn't actually drop Belly like Book! Conrad did. There are certain kinds of dialogue in the show that felt directed at the book characters, but these characters were altered for the show so it doesn't hit the same.
Finally some good criticism that doesn't resort to slut shaming Belly (you know, she was a dick but you don't need to call her a bitch for it)
Her choice being Conrad and her eyes only being for Conrad is very disappointing and feels like it’s romanticizing hard settling for someone who doesn’t deserve you. I would have chosen neither after the wedding planning of Jeremiah and Belly. Neither relationship will be healthy and fuck it, I would believe in love striking once more because plenty of people find a second solid and happy love they feel is equal to the first real strong one.
Now if I had no choice but to choose between the two, it would be Jeremiah, but on the condition they had given it a nice long break, and grew up some more. All of them were very immature and I’m sorry but if Communication is a weak to non existent pillar in any love relationship, it will never work in the long run and divorce will be inevitable. It may be a year it may be 15, but eventually the one who gets shut out all the time and put on the back burner gets so sick of it, it creates resentment. I would rather a partner who communicates their needs, likes and hurts like Jeremiah even if it hits childish and salty notes hopefully much more rarely after given time, at least he is keeping the communication pillar strong. Immaturity gets grown out of eventually especially when you have examples surrounding you to help you grow out of it, communication issues on the other hand needs yers and yrs of therapy and even then it’s a low success rate with couples that have such horrible issues as Conrad and Belly. Its like a choice between divorce in 20 yrs as friends with some kids that are mostly grown up and co-parenting but he’s always showing up for you and the kids, or divorce in 5-15 with a shitty custody battle due to resentment and sucking at communicating while he’s still being flaky af with you and the kids.
Again though, I’d rather say fuck it and move on from the boys and just keep it as friends and find someone who is there for me and accepts me for me like Jeremiah but makes the heart pound like Conrad. No compromises on a good for me kind of love man. As so many people who have had a divorce give as advice man, just being in love is never enough in the long run. Sorry for the long ass essay, just my thoughts.
i love jeremiah but there is NO redeemable factor for a cheater i am sorry. it is so out of character, sure, but we shouldnt make that a reason to justify him actually cheating... and then proposing as an apology for cheating THEN talk about said cheating with his friends while DRUNK
They definitely upgraded the story with the series!
Jeremiah “cheating” is a great example of character assassination 💀
i’m not sure if you’ve read any books from The Cupcake Diaries series by Coco Simon, but i would die for a video about it from you 😍 it was and still is one of my favourites 🧁
OMG YES THIS
Niche side of childhood 🤝😂
omg i loved those sm when i was younger (esp alex)
YES I FORGOT ABOUT THOSE
tsitp will be a summer must watch of mine
tysm Amanda! since i know all of this info from the books and the show, I don't feel as much pressure to read the books before the second season comes since I didn't finish the 1st season due to me wanting to read the books first. so um yes, thank you so much again for telling me this infooo
One of my top three book series!
I loved the way you summed up all the drama of this saga, it was very entertaining.
and although i'm team conrad,i agree that the author should have thought of another way to reunite conrad and belly, more natural and not so forced with jeremahia's infidelity.
Team Connie all the way
the whole premise of pitting two brothers again and again for some girl YES some girl feels totally WRONG VERY VERY WRONG. I don't think the author knows what a bond between brothers is, its laying their own life for each other. No brothers would let any girl get between them to this extent. Blood brothers dont let their own cousins or families between them and this is just some girl.
My overall opinion on the characters were
Conrad - needed to learn how to convey his feelings better because all he did was string belly along and then drop her when things got hard
Jeremiah- he was fun but DEF was a lil to immature for me,and poor anger management was definitely something I noticed about him(side note,to me at least cheating is definitely something he would do)
Belly - she got better in the third book but the first two books my only feelings about about her was she was a major d-rider and she dtm.She was just overall embarrassing…like girl we’re rooting for u,stop🤦🏾♀️
Taylor - like belly she got better in the third book but the first two books she was a terrible friend and basically wanted belly to be her mini
In the end to me the books and the show are to different to compare but personally I like the show better because it makes the character more like able,also it seems like more is going on,and one more REALLY big thing…JUSTICE FOR CAM CAMERON
Red flag on Jere...i knew he would cheat someday
Bean was full of drama......so immature
@@nebby_cee It took me a second to realize you were talking about Belly!!!😂😂
Now, I would love to see a to all the boys according to the books video soon.
Girlie when you put an ad can you please split that part 😭
I'm just PRAYING that the prom night is still a big thing in season 2. haven't seen anything from it yet in the trailers. given that we got the debutant ball in season 1, I'm worried :|
there’s some scenes in the trailers that look like the prom night
@@likeacorpseSpoiler Warning? ⚠️
Yeah like that fight scene, idk what that was about but we’ll see 😅
11:56 not you describing the entire plot of s2 episode 6 from last night 😭
Wow, I never read the books but I am pretty sure I would have DNf'ed it at that wedding plot point. I hate these type of ludicrous plots authors only make up for drama's sake, they never make sense from the character's perspective!
So the show is INSPIRED by the book, not BASED on it 🫠?
Also, I’m a Jeremiah Stan so I hope Conrad isn’t endgame.
Same
I agree. Conrad sucks! God I hated his personality. Everytime he talked or did something in the books I was so annoyed, like STFU...STOP. I think it's pretty obvious that I'm infinity% team Jeremiah... I adore Jeremiah (in the book and in the series). Hope the series deviates from the book and Belly stays with Jeremiah and Conrad dies🤞
Naming the town Cousins is the worst choice ever because even with disclaimers I'll never not second guess what I'm hearing
Belly getting slapped in the second season was so rewarding
Sure
I temper my bestie being obsessed with the books and she would not stop going on about how weirdly out of character Jeremiah was written in book 3, and I was just like dude I didn’t read any of the bookssss, but it seems like she was no alone in her opinion
I watched like two or three episodes of the show. I'm not a big romance fan and I don't really like love (tri)angle. But I was ready to give it a try because To All The Boys was not that bad. Plus, the music in the show is so good!
But Belly was SO ANNOYING, I didn't liked Conrad nor Jeremiah... The whole "she's like a little sister to me" was said so much at the beginning, and I'm like "yeah no, don't say that".
Maybe you will talk about that, because I'm still at the beginning but yeah, I couldn't finished the show...
Jere was the better love interest but she had him cheat?? Just so belly and Conrad could get together.
Congrats on 100K Amanda!!!! 🎉
I forgot that some of the chapters from the second book are from Jeremiah's perspective. they included some of that in this week's episode and it was great!
CONGRATS ON 100K 🥹💗
I speed read through the books while waiting for season 2 to finish and my thoughts are this: The show is much better. The characters feel more complex, developed, and are just generally better. Conrad is better, Jeremiah is better, Laurel is better and so on. I felt the book characters seemed flat and one dimensional and the filming of the show really shows the complexity of their emotions and subsequent actions (i.e. Conrad ). I hope season 3 goes in a different direction than the books honestly because it was just a wild ride that made no sense.
The person who wrote The Summer I Turned Pretty also wrote To All The Boys I've Loved Before and in the books Peter is a huge Asshole, but they soften him up for the movie version lol. So similar issues in both series occurred actually.
I love the books and the show! Also, I’m excited for season 2!
Anyways I love the show characters WAY more they’re better, like belly is so mean in the book, jere went from golden retriever to golden retriever frat boy, and Conrad was Conrad
I have never read these books or watched the show. But oof, after watching this video I’m questioning a lot of the choices made by certain characters. Like they really are something else whenever a love triangle’s involved 😂
You did it so well! This is so accurate!
I’m so curious what they are going to do with the third season. Because that was a ROUGH book to get through.
Yeahh I completely agree with you like things with jere are far more exaggerated than it could've been...
never read nor watched the show, but as someone with a sister so close to my age imagining someone continuously going back and forth between us is insane, imagine that family dynamic!!!
I could even imagine us kissing the same guy, no no no no!
Thank you for explaining the books. :)
The books and the series is so different. We will see what Season 3 looks like.
I read the summer I turned pretty and to all the boys I loved before when I was a freshman in Highschool, it’s crazy that these books and even the DUFF get to be on screen 😂 makes me feel kind of old.