I like how the younger incarnations just nod and accept what Three just said. It's like "I don't get it yet, just smile and wave... I will eventually."
It's from "The Five Doctors", because you can see that, in this video, the first Doctor is not portrayed by William Hartnell (he was already dead at the time this was made).
@Aiffe Yes as Wikipedia is the source of all knowledge. When it was first written it was a phrase that Pertwee enjoyed saying so it was included more throughout the series. "Reversing the Polarity" is still a use of the phrase. Even the title of this video is called simply "Third Doctor - Reverse the polarity", Inferno, Time monster, Planet of the Daleks and others all use the phrase. Use of the phrase is still use of the phrase. Which happened quite frequently like Would you like a jelly baby?
I don't think the writers intended it to make much sense, they probably just wanted something that sounded sciency because the Doctor is a genius. From a real world perspective, while neutrons themselves have no charge, a flow still means movement from A to B so you could reverse it by making the flow go from B to A. I'm not sure that the term 'polarity' is appropriate here, but you could in principle reverse the flow.
TV Tropes lists Star Trek as the trope namer, not Doctor Who. The first TV reference to reversing polarity occurred in the Star Trek episode That Which Survives.
Yes it is, if you're no longer claiming it as a Star Trek reference, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that point. I would happily support that position.
There are only two. The other is from one of the two movies, the 3/5 doctors. Due to rights restrictions after interfering with matters on Earth, in his second incarnation, just before being exiled as the third generation on Earth, the Doctor was informed that he would only retain a 3/5ths vote on the High Council of the Time Lords, which would be enforced by the CIA, Celestial Intervention Agency.
The phrase is, "Reverse polarity of the neutron flow." I explicitly stated that, "You would find no neutron flow's polarity being reversed." I'm not wrong, and it didn't start with Star Trek. Again, InterWeb Tubes would inform you that "reverse polarity" in fiction can be found to pre-date Star Trek. Tvtropes, a dotorg, has documented it going back to 1961. It was "Doctor Who" not "Star Trek" that popularized it. The real world would find it half a century earlier, when Tesla gave us A/C.
As the Trope Namer article will tell you, the choice for Trope Namer means neither first nor most popular. The article name, "Reverse Polarity," gives it to Star Trek for the phrase, "Reverse Polarity," and that Star Trek is well known. However, the Doctor Who quote, mentioned in the INTRODUCTORY PARAGRAPH of "Reverse Polarity" is exactly as titled here, "Reverse THE Polarity," emphasis added. Between the two, plus prior art, I'm going to have to call shenanigans on your claim.
@Aiffe No actually, I have various DVD story arcs where he says it. Hence him saying it in the Five doctors as its a hat toss to his time in the TARDIS. He said it im guessing over a dozen times in the show. Hence me asking for him to upload them...
You should give 'The Man from U.N.C.L.E' a try if you liked the episode "Assignment: Earth". Not much with the alien-constructed body or shape shifting cat, but the advanced agency in espionage-like activity with some technological advancements might interest you. It's pilot was even titled..."The Vulcan Affair"!!
I'm going to have to call you out on this one. You can't claim Doctor Who said it first because he added a "the" in between. The concept and phrase of reversing polarity was said by Star Trek first. :)
Nope. In The Three Doctors, the First Doctor was trapped in a time eddy because of William Hartnell's failing health and only appeared on monitors. This is from the Five Doctors.
Again, that's how TV Tropes works. They explain it in the "Reverse Polarity" article; either that, or Tesla or Disney Ducks Comic Universe March 1961 (US #33) in "Billions in the Hole" by Carl Barks. It's your call, but your claim on Star Trek is, "TV Tropes lists Star Trek as the trope namer," where TV Tropes explains the difference in phrasing. First is Tesla, in fiction Barks, in popularity Doctor Who, only in phrasing does Star Trek earn its position, where you must accept phrasing.
And let’s be honest here, Doctor Who is not a series that revolves around technology, whilst Star Trek certainly is and hence why the phrase is most frequently recognized to be a Star Trek phrase. TV Tropes lists Star Trek as the trope namer, and I’m inclined to agree with them over someone on RUclips who seems intent on causing a disturbance over a relatively simple matter.
Um...you were confused by a joke? It was also a Star Trek joke -- the first half was Nomad! I think the rest of my arguments and counter-points were pretty much unrelated, other than pointing out that Doctor Who popularized it. If you slingshot around the Sun, backwards, at warp 6, and transport down...nevermind, were done with that...I hope.
No, now you're diverting from the point. I said that it came before Doctor Who, which it did. I simply pointed out it was televised so you'd realize that Doctor Who was not the first to use the phrase. I honestly don't care where it came first, my entire point to all of this is: IT WAS NOT DOCTOR WHO. Which it was not. Now please stop trolling and let's get on with our lives.
HOW ARE ALL OF THE 1ST 3 DOCTORS IN THE SAME ROOM AT THE SAME TIME AS ONE ANOTHER WITHOUT CAUSING A PARADOX IN THE SPACE-TIME CONTINUUM, WHICH WOULD RESULT IN THE DESTRUCTION OF THE UNIVERSE!?!?!?!?!?!
I went to that site, selected the episode, and it clearly states "Reverse polarity" in the script. So sorry, but you're wrong. This was invented by Star Trek, not Doctor Who.
But...you're NOT agreeing with them. Their explanation of Trope Namer going to Star Trek was the two word version. That first paragraph is very clear on the logic. Yet, when I use it, you act like I'm the one splitting hairs. My logic has been consistent. From your perspective, based on, I'm guessing, being on 30, you might prefer to think of it as a Star Trek thing, which explains your new logic of "a series that revolves around technology." You ARE arguing with TV Tropes.
Despite your badgering to prove otherwise, this reference was first publicized by the Star Trek episode “That Which Survives”. Even today, most people upon hearing the phrase “Reverse the polarity” will immediately associate it with Star Trek, because it’s a frequently used phrase even in the recent series. You are the one constantly defending Doctor Who for saying a phrase that has been said many times before.
I'm not defending Doctor Who. I've only used non-Who examples. The phrase of this video was what created "reverse the polarity" as a meme. In Star Trek, it was just one piece of much technobabble. It stood out in Doctor Who for the very reasons you're insisting on giving credit to Star Trek...there's tons of it about. 'The Man from U.N.C.L.E' predates both, was a tv series, where technology was often critical to the plot. Your Star Trek claim is far weaker.
First Televised Serial Oh, good, you included a series of requirements that you felt were previously unnecessary when you made your claim...and IT'S STILL WRONG! 'The Man from U.N.C.L.E''s episode "The Minus-X Affair" uses it first. Tough nuts. Oh, wait, that's trope, for the phrase, the episode "The Moonglow Affair" would have to be used. Then there's the 'Batman' episode "Better Luck Next Time" that came between both series. Interweb Tubes are your friend.
Look, the simple fact of the matter is, the first televised serial to use the concept of reversing the polarity is Star Trek. I like Doctor Who, too, but I'm not a fan boy who refuses to accept that it came before in another very good TV show. I don't know if you're trolling, or just pedantic to the extreme, but either way it's very immature so I'll kindly ask you to stop.
What 500 characters wouldn't let me address was the, "I'm not a fan boy who refuses to accept that it came before," line, which has no place here. I've used exclusively non-Whovian examples and no one else has addressed this conversation in a way to suggest that your statement has any legitimacy in this conversation. As far as trolling or pedantry, I'm not being either. You came out of nowhere giving credit to another tv show under conditions in which you were still wrong.
No, you called it a Star Trek reference. All I've maintained was that it is not. Your attempt to legitimize the claim is causing you to look more like you're trolling than I. All I've said is, essentially, it's as legitimate to say it's a Star Trek reference as to say it's a Doctor Who reference. Neither came first, and trope naming comes from the two-word phrase by Scotty. Neither is first, but Star Trek pre-dates Doctor Who; yet most consider Doctor Who the popularizer of the phrase.
What!? Grammar? Really? TV Tropes is where that point comes from. You keep using it's the Trope Namer status to justify the claim, even though they are the ones who explained it that way. I have NO allegiance of who has claim over the phrase; all I've been saying is that it is not a Star Trek reference. How soon until you decide to add another quality to justify why it's not 'The Man from U.N.C.L.E.'? That's all I'm waiting for.
Your logic has not been consistent at all. There is a reason English grammar places a low importance on phrases such as “the” and why they are not capitalized in titles. It doesn’t matter if there is a the or if there is not, the phrase holds the same meaning. You are clearly the one splitting hairs over a single word that isn't even a noun.
this, boys and girls, is what writers do when they're on tight deadlines
I like how the younger incarnations just nod and accept what Three just said. It's like "I don't get it yet, just smile and wave... I will eventually."
The Doctor: The only man capable of confusing HIMSELF with technobabble.
So was Ghostbusters intentionally giving Doctor Who a nod at the end of their movie? My flux capacitor just exploded.
It's from "The Five Doctors", because you can see that, in this video, the first Doctor is not portrayed by William Hartnell (he was already dead at the time this was made).
Perfect catchphrase for the Doctor who enjoyed tinkering around the most.
@Aiffe Yes as Wikipedia is the source of all knowledge. When it was first written it was a phrase that Pertwee enjoyed saying so it was included more throughout the series. "Reversing the Polarity" is still a use of the phrase. Even the title of this video is called simply "Third Doctor - Reverse the polarity", Inferno, Time monster, Planet of the Daleks and others all use the phrase. Use of the phrase is still use of the phrase. Which happened quite frequently like Would you like a jelly baby?
I've reversed the jelly baby of the neutron flow!
Okay, I suck at physics, how do you reverse the polarity of a particle with a neutral charge?
I don't think the writers intended it to make much sense, they probably just wanted something that sounded sciency because the Doctor is a genius. From a real world perspective, while neutrons themselves have no charge, a flow still means movement from A to B so you could reverse it by making the flow go from B to A. I'm not sure that the term 'polarity' is appropriate here, but you could in principle reverse the flow.
Makes sense to me.
E Hernandez But then if you're dealing with time travel, you could also reverse it by making the flow go from A to B.
Troughton almost breaks into a laugh when Pertwee says the line ☺
Finally someone who uploads the clips of him actually saying it! Upload some more please :]
Thats why the 3rd is an expert of gadgetry
Polaric reversal: The magical solution
Like flipping a light switch!
Only the Doctor can reverse the polarity of Neutrons.
He's reversing the polarity of the neutron FLOW, not the neutrons themselves.
The Third Doctor. Posessing the gifts of technobabble.
TV Tropes lists Star Trek as the trope namer, not Doctor Who. The first TV reference to reversing polarity occurred in the Star Trek episode That Which Survives.
Yes it is, if you're no longer claiming it as a Star Trek reference, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that point. I would happily support that position.
When you can’t justify the solution to a problem on this show…. Reverse the polarity
There are only two. The other is from one of the two movies, the 3/5 doctors. Due to rights restrictions after interfering with matters on Earth, in his second incarnation, just before being exiled as the third generation on Earth, the Doctor was informed that he would only retain a 3/5ths vote on the High Council of the Time Lords, which would be enforced by the CIA, Celestial Intervention Agency.
NO! LET IT GO! WE'VE MOVED ON!!!
Despite this, the phrase was used before Doctor Who, and it was used in Star Trek first. That is all I am saying, and that is perfectly valid.
I wish that worked for modern computers. Lol
The phrase is, "Reverse polarity of the neutron flow." I explicitly stated that, "You would find no neutron flow's polarity being reversed." I'm not wrong, and it didn't start with Star Trek. Again, InterWeb Tubes would inform you that "reverse polarity" in fiction can be found to pre-date Star Trek. Tvtropes, a dotorg, has documented it going back to 1961. It was "Doctor Who" not "Star Trek" that popularized it. The real world would find it half a century earlier, when Tesla gave us A/C.
As the Trope Namer article will tell you, the choice for Trope Namer means neither first nor most popular. The article name, "Reverse Polarity," gives it to Star Trek for the phrase, "Reverse Polarity," and that Star Trek is well known. However, the Doctor Who quote, mentioned in the INTRODUCTORY PARAGRAPH of "Reverse Polarity" is exactly as titled here, "Reverse THE Polarity," emphasis added.
Between the two, plus prior art, I'm going to have to call shenanigans on your claim.
@Aiffe No actually, I have various DVD story arcs where he says it. Hence him saying it in the Five doctors as its a hat toss to his time in the TARDIS. He said it im guessing over a dozen times in the show. Hence me asking for him to upload them...
You should give 'The Man from U.N.C.L.E' a try if you liked the episode "Assignment: Earth". Not much with the alien-constructed body or shape shifting cat, but the advanced agency in espionage-like activity with some technological advancements might interest you. It's pilot was even titled..."The Vulcan Affair"!!
I'm going to have to call you out on this one. You can't claim Doctor Who said it first because he added a "the" in between. The concept and phrase of reversing polarity was said by Star Trek first. :)
@Daywalker727 The five doctors happened(this was a scene with only three of them! As was most of the episode!!).
Nope. In The Three Doctors, the First Doctor was trapped in a time eddy because of William Hartnell's failing health and only appeared on monitors. This is from the Five Doctors.
was a hell of a day
Again, that's how TV Tropes works. They explain it in the "Reverse Polarity" article; either that, or Tesla or Disney Ducks Comic Universe March 1961 (US #33) in "Billions in the Hole" by Carl Barks. It's your call, but your claim on Star Trek is, "TV Tropes lists Star Trek as the trope namer," where TV Tropes explains the difference in phrasing. First is Tesla, in fiction Barks, in popularity Doctor Who, only in phrasing does Star Trek earn its position, where you must accept phrasing.
Doc 1 and 2 b like: “yes but can u say that in English?”
That's the third doctor but I don't know where it's from.
I’ve reversed the polarity of the dislike flow so the like bar should be free of redness.
@mushroomshrub Would you like a Doctor?
And let’s be honest here, Doctor Who is not a series that revolves around technology, whilst Star Trek certainly is and hence why the phrase is most frequently recognized to be a Star Trek phrase. TV Tropes lists Star Trek as the trope namer, and I’m inclined to agree with them over someone on RUclips who seems intent on causing a disturbance over a relatively simple matter.
There's nothing that won't fix.
You Genius! It worked!
...That would be it, wouldn't it.
Nope, Star Trek got it first in the 1969 episode That Which Survives. The third doctor would not be around until a year later :P
@Daywalker727 just whatch the special episode
"The Five Doctors" and you'll see my friend, you'll see
Like a boss
The Five Doctors
So he made all the neutrons change direction what did that accomplish?
Um...you were confused by a joke? It was also a Star Trek joke -- the first half was Nomad! I think the rest of my arguments and counter-points were pretty much unrelated, other than pointing out that Doctor Who popularized it. If you slingshot around the Sun, backwards, at warp 6, and transport down...nevermind, were done with that...I hope.
Reverse the jelly baby of the neutron flow,
@keinve2 That would be a nice explanation, too^^
No, now you're diverting from the point. I said that it came before Doctor Who, which it did. I simply pointed out it was televised so you'd realize that Doctor Who was not the first to use the phrase.
I honestly don't care where it came first, my entire point to all of this is: IT WAS NOT DOCTOR WHO. Which it was not.
Now please stop trolling and let's get on with our lives.
HOW ARE ALL OF THE 1ST 3 DOCTORS IN THE SAME ROOM AT THE SAME TIME AS ONE ANOTHER WITHOUT CAUSING A PARADOX IN THE SPACE-TIME CONTINUUM, WHICH WOULD RESULT IN THE DESTRUCTION OF THE UNIVERSE!?!?!?!?!?!
because the time lords
Katgamer I don't get it.
***** the time lords have the power to prevent such a occurance and allow the doctors to be in the same room, didnt you watch the classic series?
Katgamer No. Because I WASN'T EVEN BORN YET!!!!!!!!!!!!
neither was i, im 18 :/
I went to that site, selected the episode, and it clearly states "Reverse polarity" in the script. So sorry, but you're wrong. This was invented by Star Trek, not Doctor Who.
the episode the three doctors
But...you're NOT agreeing with them. Their explanation of Trope Namer going to Star Trek was the two word version. That first paragraph is very clear on the logic. Yet, when I use it, you act like I'm the one splitting hairs. My logic has been consistent. From your perspective, based on, I'm guessing, being on 30, you might prefer to think of it as a Star Trek thing, which explains your new logic of "a series that revolves around technology." You ARE arguing with TV Tropes.
Would you like a doctor?
Star Trek reference!
YES!
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
Hooray for Steven Moffat!
came here from a captcha that said "reverse the polarity"
so lol
you've got it backwards
Hold on, what is this from? Since when are there three different incarnations of the Doctor in one place?
Despite your badgering to prove otherwise, this reference was first publicized by the Star Trek episode “That Which Survives”. Even today, most people upon hearing the phrase “Reverse the polarity” will immediately associate it with Star Trek, because it’s a frequently used phrase even in the recent series. You are the one constantly defending Doctor Who for saying a phrase that has been said many times before.
What episode is this from?
Look! It's Jon Pertwee, Patrick Troughton and Fake William Hartnell.
@Schluffy the cynic in me wonders why you didn't upload them yourself...? Or just watch your dvds..?
Cracked?
I'm not defending Doctor Who. I've only used non-Who examples. The phrase of this video was what created "reverse the polarity" as a meme. In Star Trek, it was just one piece of much technobabble. It stood out in Doctor Who for the very reasons you're insisting on giving credit to Star Trek...there's tons of it about. 'The Man from U.N.C.L.E' predates both, was a tv series, where technology was often critical to the plot. Your Star Trek claim is far weaker.
That's acceptable. You responding with a dalek impersonation so I had to assume you were a fanboy claiming Doctor Who came first.
First
Televised
Serial
Oh, good, you included a series of requirements that you felt were previously unnecessary when you made your claim...and IT'S STILL WRONG!
'The Man from U.N.C.L.E''s episode "The Minus-X Affair" uses it first. Tough nuts. Oh, wait, that's trope, for the phrase, the episode "The Moonglow Affair" would have to be used.
Then there's the 'Batman' episode "Better Luck Next Time" that came between both series.
Interweb Tubes are your friend.
It skipped 00:09 LOL!!!!
The cult skaro disliked this vid
Look, the simple fact of the matter is, the first televised serial to use the concept of reversing the polarity is Star Trek. I like Doctor Who, too, but I'm not a fan boy who refuses to accept that it came before in another very good TV show. I don't know if you're trolling, or just pedantic to the extreme, but either way it's very immature so I'll kindly ask you to stop.
What 500 characters wouldn't let me address was the, "I'm not a fan boy who refuses to accept that it came before," line, which has no place here. I've used exclusively non-Whovian examples and no one else has addressed this conversation in a way to suggest that your statement has any legitimacy in this conversation.
As far as trolling or pedantry, I'm not being either. You came out of nowhere giving credit to another tv show under conditions in which you were still wrong.
No, you called it a Star Trek reference. All I've maintained was that it is not. Your attempt to legitimize the claim is causing you to look more like you're trolling than I. All I've said is, essentially, it's as legitimate to say it's a Star Trek reference as to say it's a Doctor Who reference. Neither came first, and trope naming comes from the two-word phrase by Scotty. Neither is first, but Star Trek pre-dates Doctor Who; yet most consider Doctor Who the popularizer of the phrase.
What!? Grammar? Really? TV Tropes is where that point comes from. You keep using it's the Trope Namer status to justify the claim, even though they are the ones who explained it that way. I have NO allegiance of who has claim over the phrase; all I've been saying is that it is not a Star Trek reference. How soon until you decide to add another quality to justify why it's not 'The Man from U.N.C.L.E.'? That's all I'm waiting for.
Your logic has not been consistent at all. There is a reason English grammar places a low importance on phrases such as “the” and why they are not capitalized in titles. It doesn’t matter if there is a the or if there is not, the phrase holds the same meaning. You are clearly the one splitting hairs over a single word that isn't even a noun.