I do think Skyen is underestimating the average audience member’s appetite for joke scenes where the characters are just the characters. The interrogation joke scene is one of my favorite in the show. I think a more corporate show would have just said ‘time to move on,’ but I think those longer moments where the characters get to show their personalities without drama or angst are an underutilized. Too often shows are in a hurry, and I do like watching Blitz and Moxxie square up against enemies verbally together. I totally see why you’d not like it, but I think letting a funny scene keep going is fine is the jokes land, and they all did for me.
Fun fact: I got recommended (like a hundred times) by RUclips a compilation of Blitz and Moxie best moments. I knew about Helluva Boss but hadn't watched a single episode. Watched the damn video just so RUclips would stop recommending it. Then came the interrogation scene. And when Moxie retorted with "I'm a Virgo", the only thought on my head was: "I *NEED* to watch this show". It was actually the dialogue between the characters what made me a Helluva Fan.
came here to say this - the assumption that “this is how things are done” “this scene is too long, should move on after establishing x” is so limiting. the reason I like this show is because it’s different to other shows and doesn’t follow the same rules, which makes it interesting.
Same, I absolutely love the interrogation scene cause like in Ghibli movies you have to let the characters breathe and just be themselves. Here a lot is happening, but the plot is paused for the sake of fleshing out their shared sense of humour
Yeah, I have no idea what the hell he was talking about. I love that scene, and I can't think of a single joke I'd want them to cut from that. Obviously, the coffee order is my favorite, but Everything about the way they were screwing with the agents was hilarious.
given the sizeable hatedom helluva/hazbin has amassed, it's so refreshing to me to see someone look at this crass little web cartoon with this level of engagement and thought. these reactions have been a highlight!
Little detail that i love is that the three people in blitz's horror trip that tell him all his biggest flaws (striker, fizz, verosika) are speaking in blitz's voice imitating them bc its blitz's worst insecurities he has about himself. Also moxxie being animated in blitz's little doodle style is a cute detail
It's also a convenient way to avoid having to pay the voice actors to come in and record for all of one or two lines lol. There's a reason why Stolas still sounds like Stolas I mean it works artistically too don't get me wrong but it's also good from a purely practical standpoint
It also feels very believable. Skyen is right that all of that wasn't necessary and they could have used those seconds to bring more depth and motivation to the characters but at the same time, at no point did I feel like the dialogue was written exclusively for the audience to the detriment of the characters or their credibility. They are DHORKS! Of course they would threaten you constantly without actually having the guts to do anything extreme... or more accurately they would have it, given enough power but they are easily intimidated cause they are DHORKS! And the boys were boys, each with his own specific flavor of sassiness.
IT's also a genuinely good character moment. It's the first time you see Moxie and Blitzo on the same page cooperating. You get the sense that they've become more comfortable bouncing off each other which is important for the hallucination sequence later in the episode.
If there is one thing i really like about Skyen, it's that he knows how to read shit. Like, i've seen no many people act like Blitz is the way he is towards Stolas because he not attracted to him, when in reality he is, he's just scared of being emotionally attached to someone. It's the same thing that happened with Verosika, she got too close, he got scared and he fucked her over.
Right? Like I was a fan of his work commentating and "grading" League of Legends related stuff where I 1st was made aware of his existence but watching him review this tiny indie animated show alone has blown my mind, this dude is INTELLIGENT lmao, like I wanna watch him react to f*cking everything & anything now just to hear his smartsy/knowledgeable/experienced takes, like a cool uncle or a down to earth highschool teacher/college professor.
"Helluva Boss is sincerely itself." That is a very good way to summarise the vibe of the show. Its almost hard to analyse because its just doing the things it likes and thinks is fun, and then hopefully others will like too. Which it found an audience in people who vibe with animated media thats a bit off kilter.
So yeah, this is "what if we went hard", the episode. One touch i really liked is that the big fight scene isn't just a massive action flex, like the matrix lobby scene. If that's all ot did, it'd be great. But it also does character work, in particular showing us blitzø at his best, doing the thing he's best at, and temporarily free from thd worst symptoms of his anxieties and self-loathing. This is the blitzø that keeps the team together.
The little mouse movements are so funny. Seeing Skyen looking at that scene in silence, his hand on the mouse, looking for a good place to pause, but just couldn't force himself to stop.
Blitz in a hallucination is a pierrot clown, the sad clown that hides behind a mask. Also, it's been kind of a joke so far in the series that Blitz can't spell but it seems that Blitz actually has very low literacy which definitely contributes to his inferiority complex vis a vis Moxxie. Also also, note that Moxxie in Blitz's hallucination disappears in the gold fire like Stolas rather than the other 'evil exes' XD
1:34:49 "Why are you here?" He says. You have no idea how quickly I jumped into this. It's like listening to a combination of a special interest lecture and an info dump by that one friend who spends a massive amount of time on Wikipedia and TVTropes. It tickles by brain in the best way.
"There isn't an antagonist", as shown in this episode, the titular main character Blitzo, the helluva boss, is his own worst enemy. He's scared of relationships and has ruined his previous ones.
Pretty much exactly this. The primary conflicts are internal. The opposition characters only really exist to provoke responses that will change relationship dynamics.
The 3d camera move during Moxxie’s psychoscape does accomplish something- it flips the perspective from the side of Blitz where he’s wearing a mask to the side of Blitz that’s unmasked and vulnerable, just in time for the first real moment of connection in Moxxie’s psychoscape. Sure, they could have just cut to a different angle, but the soft drift creates a more organic transition, a sort of rounding of the corner in the conversation. Also, Brandon Rogers voiced all the shades in Blitz’s psychoscape-his own voice is hurling insults at him from the mouths of other people.
(No spoilers) Also I think Blitz being chained by Stolas is symbolism of how people with fear of intimacy may view a relationship, something that you're stuck in, that will constrain you he still goes towards Stolas and we can even see a little blush on him, because he does have some feelings for Stolas that he refused to admit, probably his fear of intimacy causing that I can relate to that scene a little as someone with BPD who has a fear of intimacy, and craving it as well at the same time (and I think Blitz is very BPD-coded)
Spoilers: don't look . . . . . . . . With knowledge from the other episodes the principal theory the fans have is that Blitzo has a hate for himself and also a terrible fear of abandonment, Most of the time he pushes people away is in fear that they will do it to himself, he is crass and don't let people in, because he fears the pain of been abandoned. He really wants what M&M have(one of the reasons he always spy on them), but he don't think he is capable or deserve to have it. In his mind he Fuck&d up every relationship he had(not only romantic). There's a lot of "clues" pointing to it in the episodes, but to name a clear one: the new Trailer ruclips.net/video/BZTI5OWypAg/видео.html Blitzo: "I destroy everything, I make everyone's lives worse... I don't want to be this way, not forever." In my opinion paradoxically, the only reason his relationship with Stolas "worked" until now, is because he could lie to himself and say it's just a transaction, If he had accepted that he really liked him, he would have fear of been abandoned, and push Stolas away. Now that the characters already had some development, maybe he will be able to forgive himself and accept he can be loved.
Moxxie's sketchiness was definitely deliberate in the musical sequence, it was there the whole time, but only on Mox, not on Blitz. He was a drawing in both his and Blitz's hallucinations.
This is the best episode in the series at demonstrating how well I.M.P functions as a team, how effective Blitzo can be as a boss, and how much Loona actually respects Blitzo when the chips are down.
GOD your analysis on the mud/goop/glue sticking to Blitz is so accurate, I never actually thought about WHY they were so goopy before but you really nailed it. Love how you got why Moxxie sees him as the Phantom too. This show is very silly and dumb but when it wants to be it is SO thoughtful
What I noticed, jumping off his idea that the arts types show the characters' inner worlds, is that Moxie's is all Disney, all theater, consistent. Blitz, meanwhile, has a muddy world that he has clearly tried to adapt into something else, anything else, as shown with the characters he interacts with. Moxie - Scribbles sometimes resolving into reality. Moxie is the only one present in the scene with him, so the real bits might just be that, but the scribbles show that he's still planning out how his world should look like with Moxie in it. Striker - Sepia-toned, western cowboy Fizz - Black-and-white rubber hose cartoon, clowny Verosika - dark purple and pink, like a darkened room in a club or concert.
@@liamwhite3522 Yes exactly!! And like Syken mentioned, it's so grey and void of substance where Moxxie's is full of colours and things like candles and such. A very stark contrast.
@@liamwhite3522 Given that The Wall was inspiration for Blitz's nightmare. Its very fitting. If folks here haven't seen it. Just check out the entire sequence for Empty Spaces. You got flowers turning into things or ice cream turning into a hot woman and then a gun or syringe. It's all very goopy and how it all just blends together.
While some think that the change in tone between situations is a problem, for me it is the best feature of this universe. I love the unpredictability of the episodes and the characters' actions and consequences, even though they have their ups and downs, it's never the same. One moment you're bouncing in your seat at the over-the-top, "unnecessary" action scenes, laughing nonchalantly at a predictable, stupid joke, and then out of nowhere you're hit in the stomach with revelations, insecurities, weaknesses and true emotions being shared....I consume a lot of all types of media possible and although Helluva Boss takes a lot of inspiration from them, it has a unique touch that really enchants me.
Thank you for putting this into words, because yeah for me it isn’t a problem with the show at all, it’s a highlight, I love this show for the same reason I love Red vs Blue, I enjoy the frenetic pace and the way it whips you through emotions
I liked your Big Mac metaphor, because in that context Helluva Boss is definitely the cheeseburger I can buy from an independent grill stand, that comes with a fried egg, mayo, fresh onion, a sausage patty, lathered in barbeque sauce with a hint of motor oil, and a bun that is soaked with grease of unkown origin. Not something for everyone, nor every day, but certainly illicits a stronger reaction.
The mention of Ao3 is WILD. I appreciate that you let the action part play because there wasn’t really a place to pause. You were enjoying it and that’s great. I will say, I’ve learned so much from your breakdowns that’d I’d never be able to catch because I don’t have knowledge in animation. You make this show so much more enjoyable to watch.
Something you didn't touch on that I think is really telling of their personalities: in his hallucination, Moxxie is able to name and talk through his issues himself, with only a little guiding from "Blitz". In Blitz's hallucination, he is practically attacked by his issues in the form of other people. This goes to show their level of emotional intelligence and ability to deal with their issues.
>"Why are you here? Why are you watching this?" I just came back from a 10 hour long shift, having nothing but leftover salad from an empty fridge to eat, and the only thing that can possibly make me go to sleep is 2 hour long videos of a man (i assume) ranting about stuff i enjoy, i will never settle for anything else
32:00 Getting into the tripping scene, i love how Moxxies mind is rendered in an almost Traditional 2D Disney esq style. Like he loves musicals, is the kindest member of I.M.P., and tries to see the good in everyone. So his headspace looking like a 90s Disney Movie makes so much sense.
and this is the episode with which, i think, Helluva Boss finds its footing and figures out what it wants to do with the main characters. this sets ups next episode somewhat nicely, it has so much fun with animation and character work, and of course... the main dynamics.
Exactly, like after this episode 7 and 8 are great and then in season 2 all episodes except episode 5 are solid to amazing imo (not that i hate episode 5, i actually do like it’s premise, but i just feel like what happened felt to sudden like there wasn’t enough builld-up)
I kinda disagree. Everything explored in this episode was present in the previous episodes, it would just have been way too early to put these types of character moments in one of the first episodes of a series.
Blitz's facial expressions from when stolas shows up to the end of the episode are some of the best characterization bits the in the show and low key in general. No spoilers but it's ALL written there so clearly - in the micro expressions
You know, when you were talking about the divisive nature of the show, I realized that I think that's a big reason I love this show. It FEELS like the people making it got to do what they wanted. As you said, I think that's a breath of fresh air where everything needs to be as focus tested and palatable to the widest possible audience because corporations want to make the most money that they can off it. I really don't think EVERY person SHOULD like every minute of a show because that probably means they took no risks or stripped away a lot of personality to make it more widely liked.
I think what makes the Dhorks so good is that while the two leads definitely need more development, the organisation as a whole does its job. It poses a threat, because despite them getting dispatched in masses, they still have significant manpower and were able to capture the IMPs and force Stolas to intervene. While also being charming, an organisation of wannabee office dhorks that like elaborate weapons, essentially composed of that guy from accouning that has a Katana/Model Train/etc collection that he is way too enthusastic about, the guys that use 1234 as their password. As like a villainous org it has a lot of potential while being able to use a large variety of sitcom office stereotypes for joke fodder.
Between the drug-fuelled dream sequences, the big badass fight scene, and Stolas' EPIC entrance, I knew Skyen was going to have a field day with this episode in particular.
1:15:25 All I can say is give the show time, there are parts of the show where it seems like stuff are being brushed to the side but those are deliverate and meant to communicate something about the characters, everything set up comes back later even when it feels like they have actively forgotten about it.
Personally I like it when the passion projects get a little self indulgent. I’m not an animator, artist or anything, just an amateur writer but I feel like this kind of showcase is a good way of showing rather than telling something through motion. From this long and excellent fight scene we get little confirmations of what we already knew about how the imps like to fight, but also how they coordinate as a team with Blitzo working well back to back with Moxxie while Millie and Loona are more independent. And you can kind of see that’s sort of how their personalities work, especially when Blitz is in the picture. Returning to the start of what I was getting at, Monty’s hand on the reins was what got me to even try his new show, when you could tell he loved fighting spectacle and they would let him. I enjoyed the flow and rhythm of every character and their fighting style, each one having choreography, movement, speeds, bursts, sequences and tactics that gave a little bit of insight into their personality and got to shine in spectacle because that’s what he wanted to do. Just from watching the 4 trailers I could see “Ok this one loves rule of cool, she’s enthusiastic about the spectacle as much as the creator is and is likely been inspired by either a flashy childhood hero or an awesome mentor figure they want to emulate.” In a way the spectacle was telling in and of itself. “The second is personally motivated by something this fight is like a flashback with something on the line, she likes to affect an air of refinement in person and in battle but finds more success when taking a more risky approach hinting that she’s constrained by this need to appear elegant or upper crust.” All that foundation just from watching an indulgent fight sequence. “The third I could tell that she’s a furtive person by nature but dedicated in action, a lot of her movements are based on crouches and rolls moving into sweeping strikes in flowing motions, lots of constant motion in posture from low to high (actually saw a lot of fighting game high-low mix up inspiration in that one.) Definitely has an Eastern/Anime/Ninja inspiration. She’s withdrawn and hiding something important but speaks with action. “The last one is all brash aggression and confidence with just a bit of wild abandon. Even without this one having full dialogue you can tell just what she’s like by looking at her design and how she fights. It’s something of a stylised boxing technique so she’s likely been a bit of a wilder child who grew up roughhousing and took those skills further. She’s used to getting into and out of trouble with liberally applied force.” I could map out a rough outline of their personalities just from watching them go early on because that indulgent fight choreography went on long enough to give me some consistency on how their designs and choreography informs their personalities. And it was things like that which let you know where their personal problems lay when they had difficulty with an opponent. Like when the blonde one’s full force head on approach didn’t work against a giant bird you could tell that she wasn’t quite leadership material because it was unsubtle and risked all or nothing on an opponent too hardly to tackle initially. Or when the cat lady had problem against Mr Clockwork Orange you could identify that her trouble was going in alone against someone she didn’t fully understand. When she gets backup the fight quickly swings back around. If done well, the spectacle has a way of telling or else reinforcing the narrative, character or plot if you look into the dynamics of when things are being consistent and when they aren’t. Sadly the longer it went on, especially without Monty the individualism of their styles lost is dynamic quality and the fight scenes felt a lot shorter with a lot less to say. This has been a bit of a rant so I’ll cut it off her in saying that I like seeing what people who are good at what they do make something they love.
Fighting IS expression. If two characters are fighting they might as well be having a conversation or having sex. Having people fight is speaking to the audience in s some way every time no matter the context regardless of intent.
22:23 Kusarigama, or if you ask 4kids it's a KUNAI WITH CHAIN. Funny thing is Moxie most likely recommended the og Cats but Blitzø probably watched the movie.
1:34:10 "Why are you here?" Considering I am one of the most impatient, easily bored, adhd fuckers I've ever known, the fact that I can watch a two and a half hour clip really means something to me. Thank you for making my night a little bit better! I don't know man, you're cool to listen to and have a lot of interesting things to say
1:15:17 oh don’t you worry, the whole rest of the show is basically taken over by the characterisation of blitz at this point and how he interacts with others because of his experiences in the past, this show becomes REALLY focused on Blitz
YES, I love putting these on in the background while I practice animating and just last night I was like "oh man I hope truth seekers drops soon, that's gonna be a good 2-3 hours of awesome content" and it's HERE!!
Now that I see the fight scene frame by frame, I love how the characters shift and manage their weight during this sequence, particularly Loona and Millie. When she first pull on the chain, Loona put her whole weight in the movement, to the point of having to balance her upper body with her leg, then rotate in order to catch herself with that same leg. And Millie straight up threw herself by letting the weight of her axe pulling her in the air at some point.
The cool camera turn at 59:55 for me served the narrative purpose of showing that Moxxie was literally turning his thinking around. It's when he starts to come around to what his imaginary Blitzø is saying. But also it's just a fkn cool shot.
If we go by the current growth model of the videos thus far, by the time he catches up the videos will be 9 hour documentary series. (I am not complaining)
I'm still about thirty minutes away from the end, but I don't think you caught that when Stolas possesses the agents, he has them draw a summoning circle for him. It specifically has the historical sign for Stolas (who is a real demon in the historical occult).
I know I keep commenting but when Stolas appeared there you can hear Stolas' theme playing which he sings quite a tragic song to in S2 and I cannot wait for you to get there!
Im surprised you didn't mention the black tear under Blitz's eye in his drug trip, and how that in jail is used as a form of telling the rest that you've committed murder, wich opens the mystery of exactly who did he kill exactly that made it so different of the daily murder he commits in his job that marks him deeply, even in his dreams I'm not gonna spoil it, don't worry, just telling you as a heads up :3c
Ohhh i didnt even pick up on that!! and at first reading this i was like “what are you talking about blitz hasnt done any character-significant murder” up until you mentioned not giving spoilers and then i was like. OH YEAH THAT. MAN. YEAH
The fight scenes in this and montys works is absolutely self indulgent, but id be a liar if i said i dont love when showrunners pat me on the head, say 'thanks for listening' and pull out the bag of treats.
If you didn’t grow up with long-form narrative masterpieces like Avatar, Teen Titans, Adventure Time, Steven Universe, et al. that executives tried SO HARD to bury under episodic filler, you don’t know how patient we’ve been conditioned to be. We genuinely expect episodes like C.H.E.R.U.B. to show up in even the most perfect animated feature. It’s what we’ve been trained to.
I know at least some of them post videos of their work on certain scenes here on youtube so it's not entirely unlikely. Even if there are quite a lot of Helluva reaction videos out there by now, I think (hope) that a 2.5 hour analysis of a single episode will stand out among the crowd. I'm halfway tempted to go to their videos and comment shit like "hey, go look at this guy, he spent 15 minutes saying some really nice things about the five seconds you're animating here AND he explained what you did to make it tickle my brain like that"
At this point I would be surprised if NO ONE in the staff has seen it. The Crew is very active within the fandom and I've seen these vids circulating around a bit, at least one person in there must have checked em out.
1:34:11 because I LOVE listening to people just infodump and rant about random things, ESPECIALLY if it’s about my special interest. I’ve learned so much random facts about animation from these videos I had almost no idea of how animation works before
I think the interagation scene works is that it's a genuine improvement of a scene from the Joss Weddon school. Basically the way that scene normally works is you have the good interview and the bad interview. The protagonist's strength is contrasted by one of the supporting character's weakness. In a difrent world Moxxie would crack but also give no usefull information. But in this version theyre presented as equals and have great synergy with eachother that's fun to see. It's like watching your favorite wrestlers not only team up but function as a amazing Tag Team too.
I really like what you said about cringe culture at the end. It’s something I’ve personally have been trying to unpack within myself recently, interestingly enough thanks to Helluva boss. Despite considering myself to be the exact demographic for this show, there is a very sappy moment between a same-sex couple later on that I physically can’t watch because of cringe, where as a lot of people just think it’s cute. It’s wasn’t until I really thought about it that I was like “oh shit, that’s some internalized homophobia right there” , cuz honestly it’s no more “cringe” or sappy than the straight couples I’ve watched (in this show or others) without a problem. Yet when I watch it I can’t help but feel how it was growing up in a “I have no problem with gay people but I don’t want to see that shit cuz I find it gross” household, something that I didn’t really expect to sick with me as much as it did until I had this revelation. Really sucks how watching a show like Heartstopper right now, one that would have meant so much to young bisexual me growing up, is one that I have difficulty sitting comfortably through despite having loved the comics. That despite getting joy in seeing such explicit queerness, there is still a part of me that feels like it’s too “in your face”, and how it might make some straight people uncomfortable despite me watching it completely alone in my bedroom. Still something I’m trying to deal with but I’m super grateful that we have so many more “in your face” queer shows like Helluva Boss nowadays that help normalize queerness. Not really something I thought Helluva Boss of all things would make me start to unpack but here we are lol
You know Skyen? Thank you for sharing this with us. Being able to watch this along with you and hear what you see is so incredibly rewarding. I love listening to knowledgeable people really gush about something, so this is so incredibly fun to watch.
I work an 8 hour shift with constant interrupting calls, the stop and start nature of your admiration and time to breathe makes your breakdowns ideal. Thank you for making the grind better
I am basically checking youtube several times a day hoping that magically a new episode of this has appeared, deapite rationally knowing they pop out every three days. And i will especially be doing so in expectation of the next episode
you ask why we are here and as a fellow ADHD with an animation special interest this is exactly the kind of overanalyzing i live for, like you say about the show very specific target audience and i am so thankful for it
"I think I'll pick up the pace with this one" Oh Skyen... you innocent little summer child. This is the episode where the animators flip their shit in season 1... I could tell before even looking at the timer that you weren't gonna get away with a short video.
I love that Moxxie and Blitz both immediately apologize when the truth gas makes them say things that offend each other and they both end up crying. It really shows that for all their disagreements and all the insults Blitz normally gives him, they really are friends and care about each other and don't want to hurt each other's feelings. I also love the voice acting after the truth gas wears off. The quietness and seriousness and sincerity of it all. You really feel the vulnerability of it. The way there's not much, I dunno, tone variation, just, the usual amount of expressiveness and of energy in how they talk is gone. It's like they're afraid how that might come off with everything still raw, and they're also kind of mentally and emotionally drained and tired and wiped out from it all, and just, they feel all exposed and vulnerable telling each other these things, so when they make the effort to speak -- and it is an effort -- they try to deal with all that by saying everything as matter-of-fact and without too much emotion as possible. It's really really good, I love it.
45:58 It's like Blitz is recognizing his past relationships (even as recently as Striker since he thinks they won't meet again) as dirty, and his relationship with Stolas seemingly being a clean slate (with the feathers landing on the mud of his dirty past and turning it to gold), up until he gets in his own way, believing that he's unloveable and that Stolas is in it solely for the power imbalance. So he's afraid to admit he likes Stolas. In return, Stolas disappears and the clean slate becomes a messy tornado.
It's so clear how much you care about animation through these and I'm so weak for people talking about stuff they're deeply invested in! You're reading into things the proper right amount I think, and asking a lot of good questions in between like sharing some genuinely interesting information and giving a pretty fair assessment of this show and it's strengths and weaknesses. I can't say enough about how excited I am to get these every three days!
1:30:54 I would like to point out in this cathartic sequence, they do a wonderful job expanding on Blitzø’s character after we just saw that psychological sequence by showing him backing up and checking in on everyone before moving to attack alone! His actions and subtle expressions are so much louder than his words. 💗
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oooh the irony of his words in the intro and the lenght of the video
I expected nothing less 😂
"I am capable of restraining."
1 hour was way too long im glad this one was 2.5 hours instead
"That was a little long"
@@dearlutemisSo anyways, that was a fucking lie😂
"I'm capable of restraining myself. I'm the picture of self control"
*He lied*
I do think Skyen is underestimating the average audience member’s appetite for joke scenes where the characters are just the characters. The interrogation joke scene is one of my favorite in the show. I think a more corporate show would have just said ‘time to move on,’ but I think those longer moments where the characters get to show their personalities without drama or angst are an underutilized. Too often shows are in a hurry, and I do like watching Blitz and Moxxie square up against enemies verbally together. I totally see why you’d not like it, but I think letting a funny scene keep going is fine is the jokes land, and they all did for me.
Fun fact: I got recommended (like a hundred times) by RUclips a compilation of Blitz and Moxie best moments. I knew about Helluva Boss but hadn't watched a single episode. Watched the damn video just so RUclips would stop recommending it.
Then came the interrogation scene. And when Moxie retorted with "I'm a Virgo", the only thought on my head was: "I *NEED* to watch this show". It was actually the dialogue between the characters what made me a Helluva Fan.
came here to say this - the assumption that “this is how things are done” “this scene is too long, should move on after establishing x” is so limiting. the reason I like this show is because it’s different to other shows and doesn’t follow the same rules, which makes it interesting.
Same, I absolutely love the interrogation scene cause like in Ghibli movies you have to let the characters breathe and just be themselves. Here a lot is happening, but the plot is paused for the sake of fleshing out their shared sense of humour
Yeah, I have no idea what the hell he was talking about. I love that scene, and I can't think of a single joke I'd want them to cut from that. Obviously, the coffee order is my favorite, but Everything about the way they were screwing with the agents was hilarious.
I think what makes it engaging is the fact that our protagonist are on even footing using different methods.
I KNEW IT. I knew he would go over the 2h-mark with this one XD
Ngl, honestly thought 3 hours, don't know how, but he could've
we're going for the 3h with the next one!
@@Kanamo4781 with what is about to come up? especially S2. One Video will break the 3,5 hour Mark for sure
Saaaaaaame!!
@@StarZoneLP maybe maybe not depends on his battery life
given the sizeable hatedom helluva/hazbin has amassed, it's so refreshing to me to see someone look at this crass little web cartoon with this level of engagement and thought. these reactions have been a highlight!
Little detail that i love is that the three people in blitz's horror trip that tell him all his biggest flaws (striker, fizz, verosika) are speaking in blitz's voice imitating them bc its blitz's worst insecurities he has about himself.
Also moxxie being animated in blitz's little doodle style is a cute detail
It's also a convenient way to avoid having to pay the voice actors to come in and record for all of one or two lines lol. There's a reason why Stolas still sounds like Stolas
I mean it works artistically too don't get me wrong but it's also good from a purely practical standpoint
(And also probably because they weren't going to get back all the guest stars to do one line each this episode.)
skyen, very rationally: they could have cut some of that banter with the agents
me: and lose gems like "daddy likey dummy"?? Never!!
"Your fat mom for a fat time" is fucking brilliant
And "His fat mom is dead"
Agreed. I understand his point but also I would cut none of that scene. I enjoy the characters just being funny and competent for a while.
It also feels very believable.
Skyen is right that all of that wasn't necessary and they could have used those seconds to bring more depth and motivation to the characters but at the same time, at no point did I feel like the dialogue was written exclusively for the audience to the detriment of the characters or their credibility.
They are DHORKS! Of course they would threaten you constantly without actually having the guts to do anything extreme... or more accurately they would have it, given enough power but they are easily intimidated cause they are DHORKS!
And the boys were boys, each with his own specific flavor of sassiness.
IT's also a genuinely good character moment. It's the first time you see Moxie and Blitzo on the same page cooperating. You get the sense that they've become more comfortable bouncing off each other which is important for the hallucination sequence later in the episode.
"again I'm wondering how much to read into it" when it comes to blitz always read into it, ALWAYS
If there is one thing i really like about Skyen, it's that he knows how to read shit.
Like, i've seen no many people act like Blitz is the way he is towards Stolas because he not attracted to him, when in reality he is, he's just scared of being emotionally attached to someone.
It's the same thing that happened with Verosika, she got too close, he got scared and he fucked her over.
Right? Like I was a fan of his work commentating and "grading" League of Legends related stuff where I 1st was made aware of his existence but watching him review this tiny indie animated show alone has blown my mind, this dude is INTELLIGENT lmao, like I wanna watch him react to f*cking everything & anything now just to hear his smartsy/knowledgeable/experienced takes, like a cool uncle or a down to earth highschool teacher/college professor.
@@Crona_Gowther_Kanato Literally sameee!
The fact I got excited when I saw it was two hours may make me an enabler
Same 😂
Seconded
Death to short form content.
Our brains must wrinkle and expand
I squealed with delight when I saw how long it is 😝
we’re all enablers
"Helluva Boss is sincerely itself."
That is a very good way to summarise the vibe of the show. Its almost hard to analyse because its just doing the things it likes and thinks is fun, and then hopefully others will like too. Which it found an audience in people who vibe with animated media thats a bit off kilter.
I always love hearing "last time took a long time so I'll pick up the pace" only to see the watch time have doubled since last time somehow.
TBSkyen: I will watch this animation and only talk about nesecery things.
ADHD: Oh no you don't!
The 10 minute rant about the animation change in Moxie's bad trip that gets resolved literally 5 seconds after he finishes was completely necessary.
So yeah, this is "what if we went hard", the episode.
One touch i really liked is that the big fight scene isn't just a massive action flex, like the matrix lobby scene. If that's all ot did, it'd be great.
But it also does character work, in particular showing us blitzø at his best, doing the thing he's best at, and temporarily free from thd worst symptoms of his anxieties and self-loathing. This is the blitzø that keeps the team together.
The little mouse movements are so funny.
Seeing Skyen looking at that scene in silence, his hand on the mouse, looking for a good place to pause, but just couldn't force himself to stop.
Blitz in a hallucination is a pierrot clown, the sad clown that hides behind a mask.
Also, it's been kind of a joke so far in the series that Blitz can't spell but it seems that Blitz actually has very low literacy which definitely contributes to his inferiority complex vis a vis Moxxie.
Also also, note that Moxxie in Blitz's hallucination disappears in the gold fire like Stolas rather than the other 'evil exes' XD
I don't remember the joke about Blitz not knowing how to spell. Which episode was that?
@@Shythalia Moxxie comments on it when Blitz makes the poster in spring broken (6:50). I think there's also a billboard
@@nusuth24 Also all of his text messages that are shown. The billboard being an uncorrected speech to text is a big clue
Oh okay
1:34:49 "Why are you here?" He says. You have no idea how quickly I jumped into this.
It's like listening to a combination of a special interest lecture and an info dump by that one friend who spends a massive amount of time on Wikipedia and TVTropes. It tickles by brain in the best way.
"There isn't an antagonist", as shown in this episode, the titular main character Blitzo, the helluva boss, is his own worst enemy. He's scared of relationships and has ruined his previous ones.
Pretty much exactly this. The primary conflicts are internal. The opposition characters only really exist to provoke responses that will change relationship dynamics.
“ I am capable of restraining myself “ he says as I look at the video length and smile
The 3d camera move during Moxxie’s psychoscape does accomplish something- it flips the perspective from the side of Blitz where he’s wearing a mask to the side of Blitz that’s unmasked and vulnerable, just in time for the first real moment of connection in Moxxie’s psychoscape. Sure, they could have just cut to a different angle, but the soft drift creates a more organic transition, a sort of rounding of the corner in the conversation.
Also, Brandon Rogers voiced all the shades in Blitz’s psychoscape-his own voice is hurling insults at him from the mouths of other people.
I’ve been hearing this same kinda thing around the fandom and l agree :)
(No spoilers)
Also I think Blitz being chained by Stolas is symbolism of how people with fear of intimacy may view a relationship, something that you're stuck in, that will constrain you
he still goes towards Stolas and we can even see a little blush on him, because he does have some feelings for Stolas that he refused to admit, probably his fear of intimacy causing that
I can relate to that scene a little as someone with BPD who has a fear of intimacy, and craving it as well at the same time (and I think Blitz is very BPD-coded)
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With knowledge from the other episodes the principal theory the fans have is that Blitzo has a hate for himself and also a terrible fear of abandonment, Most of the time he pushes people away is in fear that they will do it to himself, he is crass and don't let people in, because he fears the pain of been abandoned.
He really wants what M&M have(one of the reasons he always spy on them), but he don't think he is capable or deserve to have it.
In his mind he Fuck&d up every relationship he had(not only romantic).
There's a lot of "clues" pointing to it in the episodes, but to name a clear one: the new Trailer
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Blitzo: "I destroy everything, I make everyone's lives worse... I don't want to be this way, not forever."
In my opinion paradoxically, the only reason his relationship with Stolas "worked" until now, is because he could lie to himself and say it's just a transaction, If he had accepted that he really liked him, he would have fear of been abandoned, and push Stolas away.
Now that the characters already had some development, maybe he will be able to forgive himself and accept he can be loved.
Moxxie's sketchiness was definitely deliberate in the musical sequence, it was there the whole time, but only on Mox, not on Blitz. He was a drawing in both his and Blitz's hallucinations.
This is the best episode in the series at demonstrating how well I.M.P functions as a team, how effective Blitzo can be as a boss, and how much Loona actually respects Blitzo when the chips are down.
In my mind, Blitzø is best as a Ringleader
GOD your analysis on the mud/goop/glue sticking to Blitz is so accurate, I never actually thought about WHY they were so goopy before but you really nailed it. Love how you got why Moxxie sees him as the Phantom too. This show is very silly and dumb but when it wants to be it is SO thoughtful
What I noticed, jumping off his idea that the arts types show the characters' inner worlds, is that Moxie's is all Disney, all theater, consistent. Blitz, meanwhile, has a muddy world that he has clearly tried to adapt into something else, anything else, as shown with the characters he interacts with.
Moxie - Scribbles sometimes resolving into reality. Moxie is the only one present in the scene with him, so the real bits might just be that, but the scribbles show that he's still planning out how his world should look like with Moxie in it.
Striker - Sepia-toned, western cowboy
Fizz - Black-and-white rubber hose cartoon, clowny
Verosika - dark purple and pink, like a darkened room in a club or concert.
@@liamwhite3522 Yes exactly!! And like Syken mentioned, it's so grey and void of substance where Moxxie's is full of colours and things like candles and such. A very stark contrast.
@@liamwhite3522 Given that The Wall was inspiration for Blitz's nightmare. Its very fitting. If folks here haven't seen it. Just check out the entire sequence for Empty Spaces. You got flowers turning into things or ice cream turning into a hot woman and then a gun or syringe. It's all very goopy and how it all just blends together.
While some think that the change in tone between situations is a problem, for me it is the best feature of this universe. I love the unpredictability of the episodes and the characters' actions and consequences, even though they have their ups and downs, it's never the same. One moment you're bouncing in your seat at the over-the-top, "unnecessary" action scenes, laughing nonchalantly at a predictable, stupid joke, and then out of nowhere you're hit in the stomach with revelations, insecurities, weaknesses and true emotions being shared....I consume a lot of all types of media possible and although Helluva Boss takes a lot of inspiration from them, it has a unique touch that really enchants me.
Thank you for putting this into words, because yeah for me it isn’t a problem with the show at all, it’s a highlight, I love this show for the same reason I love Red vs Blue, I enjoy the frenetic pace and the way it whips you through emotions
IM SO GLAD YOU DIDNT RESTRAIN YOURSELF THIS TIME AROUND😭😭
I'll never stop saying it I'm so happy that helluva boss is an independent product and I hope it stays that way until it's finished
I liked your Big Mac metaphor, because in that context Helluva Boss is definitely the cheeseburger I can buy from an independent grill stand, that comes with a fried egg, mayo, fresh onion, a sausage patty, lathered in barbeque sauce with a hint of motor oil, and a bun that is soaked with grease of unkown origin. Not something for everyone, nor every day, but certainly illicits a stronger reaction.
Considering I absolutely adore that kind of burger that probably explains my affinity for the shows lol
Can we acknowledge that Moxxie looks fabulous in a dress?
The mention of Ao3 is WILD. I appreciate that you let the action part play because there wasn’t really a place to pause. You were enjoying it and that’s great. I will say, I’ve learned so much from your breakdowns that’d I’d never be able to catch because I don’t have knowledge in animation. You make this show so much more enjoyable to watch.
Something you didn't touch on that I think is really telling of their personalities: in his hallucination, Moxxie is able to name and talk through his issues himself, with only a little guiding from "Blitz". In Blitz's hallucination, he is practically attacked by his issues in the form of other people. This goes to show their level of emotional intelligence and ability to deal with their issues.
>"Why are you here? Why are you watching this?"
I just came back from a 10 hour long shift, having nothing but leftover salad from an empty fridge to eat, and the only thing that can possibly make me go to sleep is 2 hour long videos of a man (i assume) ranting about stuff i enjoy, i will never settle for anything else
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Getting into the tripping scene, i love how Moxxies mind is rendered in an almost Traditional 2D Disney esq style. Like he loves musicals, is the kindest member of I.M.P., and tries to see the good in everyone. So his headspace looking like a 90s Disney Movie makes so much sense.
0:16 “Pick up the pace” HAHAHA! But really this one and episode 7 I think Skyeb will have a LOT to talk about
and this is the episode with which, i think, Helluva Boss finds its footing and figures out what it wants to do with the main characters. this sets ups next episode somewhat nicely, it has so much fun with animation and character work, and of course... the main dynamics.
Exactly, like after this episode 7 and 8 are great and then in season 2 all episodes except episode 5 are solid to amazing imo (not that i hate episode 5, i actually do like it’s premise, but i just feel like what happened felt to sudden like there wasn’t enough builld-up)
I kinda disagree. Everything explored in this episode was present in the previous episodes, it would just have been way too early to put these types of character moments in one of the first episodes of a series.
Blitz's facial expressions from when stolas shows up to the end of the episode are some of the best characterization bits the in the show and low key in general. No spoilers but it's ALL written there so clearly - in the micro expressions
You know, when you were talking about the divisive nature of the show, I realized that I think that's a big reason I love this show. It FEELS like the people making it got to do what they wanted. As you said, I think that's a breath of fresh air where everything needs to be as focus tested and palatable to the widest possible audience because corporations want to make the most money that they can off it. I really don't think EVERY person SHOULD like every minute of a show because that probably means they took no risks or stripped away a lot of personality to make it more widely liked.
I think what makes the Dhorks so good is that while the two leads definitely need more development, the organisation as a whole does its job. It poses a threat, because despite them getting dispatched in masses, they still have significant manpower and were able to capture the IMPs and force Stolas to intervene.
While also being charming, an organisation of wannabee office dhorks that like elaborate weapons, essentially composed of that guy from accouning that has a Katana/Model Train/etc collection that he is way too enthusastic about, the guys that use 1234 as their password.
As like a villainous org it has a lot of potential while being able to use a large variety of sitcom office stereotypes for joke fodder.
1:15:00 "We need to see this come through in [Blitz's] actions." *heheheheheheheheheHEHEHEHEHEH*
Between the drug-fuelled dream sequences, the big badass fight scene, and Stolas' EPIC entrance, I knew Skyen was going to have a field day with this episode in particular.
How indeed, it's quite an episode
Also ... Lol, 45 minutes to an hour
1:15:25 All I can say is give the show time, there are parts of the show where it seems like stuff are being brushed to the side but those are deliverate and meant to communicate something about the characters, everything set up comes back later even when it feels like they have actively forgotten about it.
Personally I like it when the passion projects get a little self indulgent.
I’m not an animator, artist or anything, just an amateur writer but I feel like this kind of showcase is a good way of showing rather than telling something through motion.
From this long and excellent fight scene we get little confirmations of what we already knew about how the imps like to fight, but also how they coordinate as a team with Blitzo working well back to back with Moxxie while Millie and Loona are more independent.
And you can kind of see that’s sort of how their personalities work, especially when Blitz is in the picture.
Returning to the start of what I was getting at, Monty’s hand on the reins was what got me to even try his new show, when you could tell he loved fighting spectacle and they would let him.
I enjoyed the flow and rhythm of every character and their fighting style, each one having choreography, movement, speeds, bursts, sequences and tactics that gave a little bit of insight into their personality and got to shine in spectacle because that’s what he wanted to do.
Just from watching the 4 trailers I could see “Ok this one loves rule of cool, she’s enthusiastic about the spectacle as much as the creator is and is likely been inspired by either a flashy childhood hero or an awesome mentor figure they want to emulate.” In a way the spectacle was telling in and of itself.
“The second is personally motivated by something this fight is like a flashback with something on the line, she likes to affect an air of refinement in person and in battle but finds more success when taking a more risky approach hinting that she’s constrained by this need to appear elegant or upper crust.”
All that foundation just from watching an indulgent fight sequence.
“The third I could tell that she’s a furtive person by nature but dedicated in action, a lot of her movements are based on crouches and rolls moving into sweeping strikes in flowing motions, lots of constant motion in posture from low to high (actually saw a lot of fighting game high-low mix up inspiration in that one.) Definitely has an Eastern/Anime/Ninja inspiration. She’s withdrawn and hiding something important but speaks with action.
“The last one is all brash aggression and confidence with just a bit of wild abandon. Even without this one having full dialogue you can tell just what she’s like by looking at her design and how she fights. It’s something of a stylised boxing technique so she’s likely been a bit of a wilder child who grew up roughhousing and took those skills further. She’s used to getting into and out of trouble with liberally applied force.”
I could map out a rough outline of their personalities just from watching them go early on because that indulgent fight choreography went on long enough to give me some consistency on how their designs and choreography informs their personalities.
And it was things like that which let you know where their personal problems lay when they had difficulty with an opponent.
Like when the blonde one’s full force head on approach didn’t work against a giant bird you could tell that she wasn’t quite leadership material because it was unsubtle and risked all or nothing on an opponent too hardly to tackle initially.
Or when the cat lady had problem against Mr Clockwork Orange you could identify that her trouble was going in alone against someone she didn’t fully understand. When she gets backup the fight quickly swings back around.
If done well, the spectacle has a way of telling or else reinforcing the narrative, character or plot if you look into the dynamics of when things are being consistent and when they aren’t.
Sadly the longer it went on, especially without Monty the individualism of their styles lost is dynamic quality and the fight scenes felt a lot shorter with a lot less to say.
This has been a bit of a rant so I’ll cut it off her in saying that I like seeing what people who are good at what they do make something they love.
Skyen: "why are any of you here?"
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I'M here for your unscripted analysis, bud. And you have a nice voice.
Seeing the runtime made me SQUEAL IN DELIGHT, I will not lie
Tbskyen: 45mins-1hr, I can restrain myself
The runtime: are you sure about that?
Fighting IS expression. If two characters are fighting they might as well be having a conversation or having sex. Having people fight is speaking to the audience in s some way every time no matter the context regardless of intent.
22:23 Kusarigama, or if you ask 4kids it's a KUNAI WITH CHAIN.
Funny thing is Moxie most likely recommended the og Cats but Blitzø probably watched the movie.
This came out before the movie (I am quite sure)
I accept as headcannon that Moxie recommended the original Cats and Blitz saw the movie instead
1:34:10 "Why are you here?"
Considering I am one of the most impatient, easily bored, adhd fuckers I've ever known, the fact that I can watch a two and a half hour clip really means something to me. Thank you for making my night a little bit better!
I don't know man, you're cool to listen to and have a lot of interesting things to say
Guys I think we did it he’s hooked
"I'll pick up the pace"
To arguably the most important episode this season
Skyen: i am not a glutton for words. I can contain it. I know i can
Us: (sees video length)
Skyen: THATS IRRELEVANT
1:15:17 oh don’t you worry, the whole rest of the show is basically taken over by the characterisation of blitz at this point and how he interacts with others because of his experiences in the past, this show becomes REALLY focused on Blitz
Thats why they should end it by having Mox saying "Sir, you sure are one Helluva boss!!" and the credits roll
And a specific childhood friend of him for like 2~3 episodes
@@leonardolf6974 ehhh, lets not spoil much here, ok?
Boy oh boy, a new 3BSkyen Helluva Boss reaction!
I sure hope I'll be able to watch it during my half hour break- OH GOOD HEAVENS
YES, I love putting these on in the background while I practice animating and just last night I was like "oh man I hope truth seekers drops soon, that's gonna be a good 2-3 hours of awesome content" and it's HERE!!
Now that I see the fight scene frame by frame, I love how the characters shift and manage their weight during this sequence, particularly Loona and Millie.
When she first pull on the chain, Loona put her whole weight in the movement, to the point of having to balance her upper body with her leg, then rotate in order to catch herself with that same leg.
And Millie straight up threw herself by letting the weight of her axe pulling her in the air at some point.
The cool camera turn at 59:55 for me served the narrative purpose of showing that Moxxie was literally turning his thinking around. It's when he starts to come around to what his imaginary Blitzø is saying. But also it's just a fkn cool shot.
Honestly, Stolas appearing is one of my favourite sequences of all of Helluva boss
“Sheesh, you know guys, that last video was a little bit too long. I'll try to pick up the pace on this one.”
Also, at 22:27; The word is Kusari・Gama (鎖鎌｜くさり・がま)
This episode has so any animation flexes, it also feels like such a central point to the character development going forward. It's so good
“I am capable of restraining myself!”
*GUESS WHAT HAPPENS NEXT~?*
I read it with Bill Wurzt's jingle XD
@@sazdx As intended!
"why are you here?" because i like watching videos of people being good at their jobs and you, sir, are good at your job.
If we go by the current growth model of the videos thus far, by the time he catches up the videos will be 9 hour documentary series.
(I am not complaining)
I'm still about thirty minutes away from the end, but I don't think you caught that when Stolas possesses the agents, he has them draw a summoning circle for him. It specifically has the historical sign for Stolas (who is a real demon in the historical occult).
I like it when you say " this isn't really a criticism" and also "but can you stop?"
Helluva Boss feels like the people making it love it and that makes a big difference
I know I keep commenting but when Stolas appeared there you can hear Stolas' theme playing which he sings quite a tragic song to in S2 and I cannot wait for you to get there!
Im surprised you didn't mention the black tear under Blitz's eye in his drug trip, and how that in jail is used as a form of telling the rest that you've committed murder, wich opens the mystery of exactly who did he kill exactly that made it so different of the daily murder he commits in his job that marks him deeply, even in his dreams
I'm not gonna spoil it, don't worry, just telling you as a heads up :3c
Ohhh i didnt even pick up on that!! and at first reading this i was like “what are you talking about blitz hasnt done any character-significant murder” up until you mentioned not giving spoilers and then i was like. OH YEAH THAT. MAN. YEAH
*sees run time*
Now this is the content that has me as a $20 patron. Let the good times roll.
1:34:07 We’re here because we love watching your in-depth analysis of such an interesting show! Keep up the great work TB Skyen!
The fight scenes in this and montys works is absolutely self indulgent, but id be a liar if i said i dont love when showrunners pat me on the head, say 'thanks for listening' and pull out the bag of treats.
If you didn’t grow up with long-form narrative masterpieces like Avatar, Teen Titans, Adventure Time, Steven Universe, et al. that executives tried SO HARD to bury under episodic filler, you don’t know how patient we’ve been conditioned to be.
We genuinely expect episodes like C.H.E.R.U.B. to show up in even the most perfect animated feature. It’s what we’ve been trained to.
Least with CHERUB its just a brief peek at how Heaven is before Hazbin Hotel. And it sets up the Cherubs as a future threat.
The opening minute of this video is such a textbook example of foreshadowing I expect to see it in an OSP video on the topic.
yeah
I imagine the animators would be so proud watching you react
I know at least some of them post videos of their work on certain scenes here on youtube so it's not entirely unlikely. Even if there are quite a lot of Helluva reaction videos out there by now, I think (hope) that a 2.5 hour analysis of a single episode will stand out among the crowd. I'm halfway tempted to go to their videos and comment shit like "hey, go look at this guy, he spent 15 minutes saying some really nice things about the five seconds you're animating here AND he explained what you did to make it tickle my brain like that"
At this point I would be surprised if NO ONE in the staff has seen it. The Crew is very active within the fandom and I've seen these vids circulating around a bit, at least one person in there must have checked em out.
1:34:11 because I LOVE listening to people just infodump and rant about random things, ESPECIALLY if it’s about my special interest. I’ve learned so much random facts about animation from these videos I had almost no idea of how animation works before
I think the interagation scene works is that it's a genuine improvement of a scene from the Joss Weddon school. Basically the way that scene normally works is you have the good interview and the bad interview. The protagonist's strength is contrasted by one of the supporting character's weakness. In a difrent world Moxxie would crack but also give no usefull information. But in this version theyre presented as equals and have great synergy with eachother that's fun to see. It's like watching your favorite wrestlers not only team up but function as a amazing Tag Team too.
I really like what you said about cringe culture at the end. It’s something I’ve personally have been trying to unpack within myself recently, interestingly enough thanks to Helluva boss.
Despite considering myself to be the exact demographic for this show, there is a very sappy moment between a same-sex couple later on that I physically can’t watch because of cringe, where as a lot of people just think it’s cute. It’s wasn’t until I really thought about it that I was like “oh shit, that’s some internalized homophobia right there” , cuz honestly it’s no more “cringe” or sappy than the straight couples I’ve watched (in this show or others) without a problem. Yet when I watch it I can’t help but feel how it was growing up in a “I have no problem with gay people but I don’t want to see that shit cuz I find it gross” household, something that I didn’t really expect to sick with me as much as it did until I had this revelation.
Really sucks how watching a show like Heartstopper right now, one that would have meant so much to young bisexual me growing up, is one that I have difficulty sitting comfortably through despite having loved the comics. That despite getting joy in seeing such explicit queerness, there is still a part of me that feels like it’s too “in your face”, and how it might make some straight people uncomfortable despite me watching it completely alone in my bedroom. Still something I’m trying to deal with but I’m super grateful that we have so many more “in your face” queer shows like Helluva Boss nowadays that help normalize queerness. Not really something I thought Helluva Boss of all things would make me start to unpack but here we are lol
"ill be a little bit quicker about it... lets say 45minutes to an hour"
*looks at length of the video* OH BOY I am so ready for this
I saw the time on this video and I was like, "he's gonna say some shit about doing it quickly at the start isn't he?" Never change Skyen lol
You know Skyen? Thank you for sharing this with us. Being able to watch this along with you and hear what you see is so incredibly rewarding. I love listening to knowledgeable people really gush about something, so this is so incredibly fun to watch.
I work an 8 hour shift with constant interrupting calls, the stop and start nature of your admiration and time to breathe makes your breakdowns ideal. Thank you for making the grind better
Hearing you guess exactly major plot points of future episodes and not being able to launch into an info dump has grown to be a fun thing for me.
I am basically checking youtube several times a day hoping that magically a new episode of this has appeared, deapite rationally knowing they pop out every three days. And i will especially be doing so in expectation of the next episode
"I am capable of that"
He was not, in fact, capable of that
When he said that he knew why people thought that he would spend time on this one and the big fight and the stolas scene hasn't happened yet
Excuse me waiter
I asked for a little sauce and this is absolutely drenched
you ask why we are here and as a fellow ADHD with an animation special interest this is exactly the kind of overanalyzing i live for, like you say about the show very specific target audience and i am so thankful for it
"I think I'll pick up the pace with this one"
Oh Skyen... you innocent little summer child. This is the episode where the animators flip their shit in season 1... I could tell before even looking at the timer that you weren't gonna get away with a short video.
I love that Moxxie and Blitz both immediately apologize when the truth gas makes them say things that offend each other and they both end up crying. It really shows that for all their disagreements and all the insults Blitz normally gives him, they really are friends and care about each other and don't want to hurt each other's feelings.
I also love the voice acting after the truth gas wears off. The quietness and seriousness and sincerity of it all. You really feel the vulnerability of it. The way there's not much, I dunno, tone variation, just, the usual amount of expressiveness and of energy in how they talk is gone. It's like they're afraid how that might come off with everything still raw, and they're also kind of mentally and emotionally drained and tired and wiped out from it all, and just, they feel all exposed and vulnerable telling each other these things, so when they make the effort to speak -- and it is an effort -- they try to deal with all that by saying everything as matter-of-fact and without too much emotion as possible. It's really really good, I love it.
*Skyen at the beginning of the video:
I'll keep this short.
*Red bar:
Over 2 hours.
same vibe as hitting a soulsborne enemy with the heaviest stick and seeing its HP move only a milimeter
@@petre1758 I mean at for me that's just looking in a mirror.
45:58 It's like Blitz is recognizing his past relationships (even as recently as Striker since he thinks they won't meet again) as dirty, and his relationship with Stolas seemingly being a clean slate (with the feathers landing on the mud of his dirty past and turning it to gold), up until he gets in his own way, believing that he's unloveable and that Stolas is in it solely for the power imbalance. So he's afraid to admit he likes Stolas. In return, Stolas disappears and the clean slate becomes a messy tornado.
"Are we gonna get more into Blitz giving a shit?"
*Oh buddy!*
It's so clear how much you care about animation through these and I'm so weak for people talking about stuff they're deeply invested in! You're reading into things the proper right amount I think, and asking a lot of good questions in between like sharing some genuinely interesting information and giving a pretty fair assessment of this show and it's strengths and weaknesses. I can't say enough about how excited I am to get these every three days!
2 AND A HALF HOURS LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I am laughing at second 28.
22:35 to 25:50- Skyen talks about his dislike of the use of motion blur in a 4 second clip of animation. Bless this man.
1:30:54 I would like to point out in this cathartic sequence, they do a wonderful job expanding on Blitzø’s character after we just saw that psychological sequence by showing him backing up and checking in on everyone before moving to attack alone! His actions and subtle expressions are so much louder than his words. 💗
i just looove the way stolas' theme is playing on the background when he shows up
These reactions are just going to get longer and longer... XD
The Blitz segment made me think of The Wall as much as anything else.
Oh trust me, Blitz's characterization will pay off quite soon
Every time Skyen mentions 3D animation i want him to react to Murder drones so i can hear more about that specifically.