BandHead Reacts to Texas Southern vs Southern | 5th Quarter | 2023
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- Опубликовано: 31 окт 2023
- KBThaBandHead REACTS to Texas Southern "Ocean of Soul" vs Southern University "Human JukeBox" highly anticipated 5th Quarter battle! Special Request by: Albert and LaDonna Johnson!
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I will say Texas Southern has had one of the best books all season📖📝🔥 Love the dynamics of certain songs😩 & they give a good variety✨👌🏾
This was a good 5th quarter. I also believe both bands got tired at the end. Big props to Motion of the Ocean!
Best 5th quarter of the season so far! TSU gave SU the push they needed
Rock the boat took that round. It's not always about power. It's about everything else. TSU has technicality with precision taking effect. Clarity and crisp sound with stellar pens offering ✨️ pizzazz that the band delivered on. Power isn't everything as you begin to see through both band performances. In my book, it was a win for the 🌊🌊🌊✨️✨️🔥🔥
Nobody can beat southern on this channel. We know they loud but can we judge on something other than power. Everybody don't got those numbers. As a lower brass alumni, Texas won this hands down for the balance and intonation. And I can hear Texas woodwinds.
Here's the truth: for those of us who have followed bands for years, we are pleasantly surprised to see TxSU come up the way they have. For those of us familiar with cars, SU is akin to a flagship Mercedes G wagon, while TxSU is the new Genesis GV80--lots of features, a formidable opponent, but essentially new to this level of the game (not new to the game itself, but this Ocean is on a different level). Im excited for the legacy Simmons and Stamper are building on and hope they have continued consistency over the years. SU has been at this level for a long time.
You mfs act like so ain’t receive whippings from the ocean! Stop it
Best comparison fasho
@@Blackice0318 🙏🏾
I agree!!! This new sound from Txsu has impressed me for sure! They should be making movie scores 😅
Great comparison. Dr. Greggs would have been proud.
I’m gonna give Txsu some credit; they have improved A LOT since last year!
I love their new symphonic sound! They’re makin’ love with their music instead of just pounding away at the horn the whole time.
The first two songs they played had me shocked at how different they sound! 🎶🔥🔥🔥
@25:25 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
From an unbiased opinion im a NSU Spartan in my soul but i totally respect Southern for staying true to what built their legacy, You have to play to your strengths. Great performance from both bands but its a W for Southern hey if it aint broke dont fix it 😂
I feel like TxSU had the better sounding band.
The first song by txsu is Carry on wayward son. In the original song there’s a fall at the bridge. I know it sounded like they where skating at the part but in the original song that fall is actually executed just like that. S.U got that round though and that song choice was a excellent counter punch.
Omg!!! Thank you for saying this! I'm like "this guy is tripping!"
@@UhhhAreyouok sometimes he don’t know the music all the way y’all.
When they don’t know music they don’t know music //// thats actually a fall in the arrangement 😂😂😂😂😂 before they do these videos read the arrangements
They both did a good job. Both had issues, but all in all… it was a great display of musical ability from both bands. It’s not easy playing round after round. I really liked TXSU book fr fr.
How did u not give TSU the W for Rock The Boat, thats crazy!!!!
Motion 10/10
I felt like TSU won the round with rock the boat and it was 5 to 4 in favor of SU. Good battle overall
same here . that rock the boat sounded just like the original .
@@IamtheSantanayes drum parts in all
Definitely, and the round before the Rock the boat they won as well.
Yall some SU fan boys😭
@@tj1618 you really defending southern losing to txsu🤣
Bro, I love that you are not bias in your scoring! Appreciate your honesty! I was there and it was a good 5th quarter!
KB, the first song, For Texas Southern, Wayward Son, is to be played that way. that's how the song sounds
That’s what I said also
My apologies for not knowing every song but I just gave my opinion.
@@KBThaBandheadwell in all fairness how you're going to give a deduction if you don't know how the song goes. Ijs...I enjoy watching your videos but sometimes I be trying to figure out what you be hearing lol...txsu alumnus here! 🐅🤘🏽
@@RJ25255 in all fairness, who on the planet knows how “EVERY” song in the world goes.. 🤦🏽♂️ 😂😂
@KBThaBandhead Not mad at ya....nvr that❤️ but you know, as a musician yourself, that some songs have funny bridges.
now Su being loud is a problem...but every band is trying to sound like SU. When Su plays with dynamics they don't get the credit for it.... GO ahead and keep moving the goal post for Southern..smh
Facts
Naw That Rock the boat tho🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥✍🏼 32:25 😮💨 that bih was too Smooth
They both ran out of gas, Su just has the advantage of having more members to cover it unless you listening really hard lol.
As a Jukebox member from the 80's, I have a few points to make:
1---TSU really improved the repertoire.
2---KB, anytime you hear a brass member lagging, whether it's a texas, louisiana or mississipi band, it is due to a new orleans native. they have been doing that for years, to their detriment.
3---NO HBCU band has the stamina of SU, it starts in the 6th grade----really!
4---Great review, you are the best at this review game.
5---Kudos to SU & TSU, best battle of the year, TSU's dolls took that. That musical chairs routine was the best of any HBCU so far in the 5th quarter.
6---SU makes everyone step up their game. Case in point, all the Alabama bands changed when they joined the SWAC. Now FAMU & BC are adapting. Go SWAC!!!!
Shout out to all my fellow band heads, nothing beats HBCU life.
The current jsu has more stanima than su su not that band they used to be
Jsu has more stanima than su and you only saying cuz southern lost to jsu 2 times
TXSU got this 5th
Maybe again y’all band
Have to disagree with that Rock the Boat round KB. That was the best song of the night, in my opinion. It was so intricate and well played.
Man the ocean 🌊 dancer in the back was giving me that work love the thickness getting down 🫡💯
How in the world did SU not get a deduction for that errant trumpet note on the second song? I keep saying their numbers mask their many mistakes
If I gave out the deductions, I heard. This wouldn't have been a battle at all LOL
@@KBThaBandhead I understand that
I thought I was the only one thar heard it.
Dang you hate Southern 😆. I love being a jaguar!!
I have to disagree round 2 was TX, that southern ending was cringie I believe u was caught up in the power just my opinion
I did this thing where instead of playing them in order I played the songs in reverse and hearing TSU respond vs SU was tell tale. TSU got the win
But It didn’t go that way tho so no they didn’t get no win😂😂😂
Bro that rock the boat hit harder
The juke box
All day💪🏽💙💛
For those who have come through the legacy of Dr. Isaac Greggs this was absolutely amazing. The only thing that could've enhanced this battle was to see Docs reaction to each song. 💛💙
Shout out from Juke 1982 crab. I miss hearing "hey little boy....lol" RIP Doc.
😂😂😂 It's crazy to me that these comments stay trying to give these bands that are clearly losing to Texas Southern a W. Southern has no musical inclination. They hav3 all those tubas and no 808 feel. They should sound like a Chevy Caprice with 6 L7 12s in trunk They have no dynamic, which means no crescendos or decrescendos where there should be. How do you obnoxiously play a Janet Jackson song she doesn't even sing powerful so how do you play a love ballad that strong? None of their arrangements send chills and as a singer songwriter all that shit matters. I want to be able to sing along to the instrumental not sit there with a goofy ass face. Yall just be hyping SU.
Third round on, KB was being swayed by shall we say other elements. Talking about Dolls what y'all gonna do? Thought this was a breakdown of the bands? Motion making it hard to focus! Lol
Dolls and Motion be hypnotizing tho 🤷🏿♂️🤣🤣🤣
Dude was happy as a mother to here a Jukebox mistake. Kid in the candy store.
Been happening a lot this year
I think you just mad that I caught it. SU and Txsu had too many mistakes to be honest.
@@KBThaBandhead Not mad, but just noticed your steroidal level excitement.
They both made mistakes. They both did a good enough job entertaining us from their chosen perspective.
I would love to see J St and SU invite them to this upcoming battle. They deserve a seat at the table and would make for interesting company.
Maybe we should start a friendly petition to try to get them invited?
@@cinemuh Yeah, watch some of my other videos, it get's worse. LOL
@@KBThaBandhead I'm good with waiting until we smash your truly favorite band on the 12th.
SU for the easy WIN 👑 🏆
Texas southern book is amazing
KB this the 1st time I've ever heard you critize SU for using Power to cover their musicality mistakes.
Bs‼️
I knew KB would pick Southern by the Thumbnail picture. He couldn’t hold his level of excitement.
Boi, ya'll funny 😭 That picture 2 years old 🤣
I’m ready for this ngl
😊 “Tape Don’t Lie, It only Records What You Play” - J Harris
That Glow by SU was sloppy. Those runs were muddled like only some people knew the music and the others weren’t confident in their playing at some spots
So was txsu , they both was sloppy on songs, don’t just call
One out 👀
The first song by txsu was better and more difficult than glow
@@cj9160he said what he said.. no need to throw txsu in here... he said su!! Very childish 🙄
TXSU was just ok
@@gravestone2439 if that's the case so was su
I been waiting on ya bro
TXSU by far.....
Southern was just Southern.....
Txsu made you really pay attention to what they was playing and even bob your head with the tunes they played.
I usually pic SU over everyone (except LU)
But this was a upset
I didn’t expect KB to give SU the first two rounds but I honestly gave them a tie for the first round and TXSU for the second. Well, at least we def agree TXSU got the 6th round but it was over after the 8th round. Good job giving SU a decent battle but it could’ve gone better tbh.
Yep tsu for the second round especially when he didn't give southern that deduction for that trumpet played out turn
I was literally about to say the same thing
@@unklejoe413I heard that and he didn’t give them a deduction and that was the same mistake he gave a deduction to Texas Southern in that first round!
TXSu definitely had the better gameplan so far. That last piece was mind blowing. SU this year has sounded sloppy in my opinion.
I notice they will get a lil sloppy at home , but the away band be killing, But it’s other bands that get sloppy also
SU this year is reminding me of 18 all over Again
@@DajournoTFthey was big in 2018 , they need to trim
Just little and jsu was sloppy when they was big also in 2014 and 15
@@cj9160 Bro I was still in the Boom those years, 14 was cleaner than 15
@@DajournoTFAgreed. Felt Like The Boom Was Stronger And Cleaner In 14 Than 15.
If you appreciate great Band music these are two bands with a great sound and arrangements.
Awesome job to both programs
I agree!!
@@KBThaBandheadKB you have to come to N.O. for the Bacchus Bloody Sunday Battle.
Same thing I noticed with jsu in 2020.. I’m seeing the same now Since 21 txsu been approving🫣 this going to be the new rivalry to wait on football and the bands if jsu get rotated off the schedule.
JSU getting rotated off?
That will never happen
If txsu can’t beat jsu or su how will they ever be able to replace the boombox ?
Okay this Ole Spartan loved this battle. The musicality was great to hear. Don’t get me wrong hip hop has its place I’m glad they went with music that’s coming from some decades ago. Now I love TSU first selection(I was born in the 70’s), was very technical and a great arrangement, but yeah deduction. I think they bake that a little longer in the oven it will be better. They both were grooving, and TSU came with it, but SU is a monster of a band, and they looking like SU again, earlier in the season I don’t know. Don’t get me wrong when I listen to SU I try not to just listen to the power, you have 33 tubas you should be loud, but how are you playing with that power. With that being said I look for clean sound and musicality. SU has it but sometimes they try and over power there mistakes so I agree you. But I gave to SU, it was close though. TSU is a band to be reckoned with and as they get numbers this battle will continue to be one of the best in not just the SWAC, but amongst HBCU bands period.
Yall looking for something that isn't ever going to happen. Simmons cuts the numbers down so they can stay musically inclined he literally has a whole video talking about that
Both did good no lie 💛💙
Imo TX won.. Rock the boat Ready or not anytime any place and you got the glow..those songs stood out the most. Both bands played amazingly ❤❤
Good reaction KB. I gotta disagree with the first round tho lol. Now about this rock the boat arrangement 😮💨 percussion really worked that pocket.
Hey KB, what was your reaction when B Simmons was trolling Su acting like he was directing Backstabbers? LOL
He was the one being trolled as it was an arrangement he wrote they pulled out on him.
@@cinemuh nah, it failed because Simmons flipped it on them. If you read the comments on the clip they showed it, people were laughing at Simmons coming over and conducting. Then taking a bow and saying you're welcome lol
@@MrPesante2008You do realize Simmons was in front of SU & not his band 80-90% of that whole game, and the last song in the 5th when ken came over to show them the exit Brian was covering his face for the camera. It’s all on film so who really won then🤔
@@MrPesante2008he a made Juke..any success is a win for SU
@@Joshua_Harrell now that's facts!
Thank you !!! . I was waiting on you to give your opinion on this battle. Thank you for being honest I agree with you as I listen to both bands they both had some issues. But I like both bands cause B Simmons over there miss him. But glad you came on cause all these people gave there predictions were just butt kisser who they liked.
I agree with you about the loud.
Why does Power matter as much as Musicianship? SU at time has both but they rely mainly on their loudness which you seem to prefer..ijs
Do SU recruit Woodwinds since the band is mostly Brass?
I understand the area produces more Brass than Woodwinds
This is my honest review. Southern is like Shaquille O'Neal in the post, they play the power game and try to throw in some finesse here and there. If you try to play the power game with them you will always loose. Texas Southern on the other hand is like Steph Curry, they shoot 3's from all over the court in the form of their musicianship and detailed arrangements and at the end of the game the box score looks almost even although they both got their points in different ways. I will say this though, Southern does a lot of skating but it gets covered over by their numbers and by hiding their less skilled players behind how loud they are. Texas Southern on the other hand doesn't have the numbers to cover any flaws and they only put their best musician's on the field and it doesn't stop them from taking risk and playing challenging diversified music and i have a lot of respect for that.
@LavonRandolph-gt9wf ok then tell me in what way did SU sound WAY better? I'm listening?
@@adonisobrienthey played with way more confidence …they had way more stamina through this battle they had an answer for anything TXSU tried to throw at them
@@honestsagittarius4566 i disagree. Southern didn't have a lot more stamina they are just bigger and from the sound of their Tubas for example it didn't even sound like all of them were playing.. Whereas TSU has EVERYONE playing and playing key roles. Plus TSU's book and musicianship was better.
@@adonisobrien southern have took down bands twice their size plenty of times with stamina alone..so them being bigger had nothing to do with it and i liked both song books but I respect your opinion tho
Not SU with THE GLOW from the Last Dragon. lol that's whats up
they need to move txsu to the middle maybe there sound be totaly different
I agree.
Notice the difference when JSU moved. Totally dif sound
5-4 TxSU. SU swept the last few. Youre right about the fatigue factor. I gave TxSU rounds 2 and 5. Im with you on the others. Battle coulda went either way. Props to both bands.
This battle could’ve went either way depending on your preference 😂😂 I had 5-4 SU
Great job both bands. Good job Brian, TxSu needed a true blue Jag to show them their potential. However, Southern is STILL they Daddy, SU for the WIN! KB, what all happened on that TxSu party bus? I guess they sent out the welcome committee for you, it is apparent in your commentary. Nevertheless, keep up the good work.
No welcome committee over here pimp. I paid my hard earned money like everyone else for the trip. Boi, you Southern folks are interesting to say the least. 😭
Stop it! We didn't need no damn Jag to help us out! You su fans are just hideous and draining smh
That corner kb
3:24 a trumpet fracked to me that’s an deductions to Texas southern
Personally I score it 4-5. SU masks their lack of phasing, Dynamics and articulation with volume and middle brass power but both Bands did really good and shoutout to the Bruhs AEA 🤟🏾
Bra that rock the boat was amazing how TX didn’t get that round
I Wished Texas Southern Would’ve Played That Gangsta Lovin Because That went to wasted during the game with the damn DJ Playing Over Them.
I don't for why TXSU band staff always walks back and forth to the Juke sides every game??
Surely a great battle, SU has the stamina and a deep book but there are some things that should be cleaned up, TXSU has a nice book and they sound crisp, there are also something’s that need to be cleaned up. I give the dub to SU, however, TXSU has gotten better this year compared to last year.
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The SU piece Measure 7 of the Taste of Honey song "Boogie Oogie Oogie had a trumpet player who played a little too soon and out of tune with the attempted scream. Around 50:23
smh...1st round go back and listen to the actual song by kansas it wasnt no lead to a bridge it was a chord change and the woodwinds and euphos was being displayed....same thing with snarky puppy last year that was the actual chord changes in the song that txsu played...this where txsu writers lose alot of people they play these certain songs and it go over peoples head
I'm still Hot on the Rock The Boat round . . Su say "throw out that random power tune we always play" , and you gave it to them ! lol But overall great Battle 🔥🔥🔥
TSU Cleary won that Round!!!
Yeah you saw su fans dancing to Rock the boat.
My G you gotta check that boombox battle of the band it was crazy I got jsu for the w
Food for thought both Bands are actually directed by Southern University Band Directors and so will be PVU when they come to town in two weeks so you guys can stop the comparisons because the Directors were all part of the Jukebox Family - but big ups to your comments......Let the Music Play.
What is the name of each songs in the 2nd round?
I agree with the inconsistency of the first song that Texas Southern played.
KB you gotta go listen to the songs they be playing in the first song that’s exactly how the bridge goes
Dannie and the little Dannie’s worked out last week on the dolls
Texas used more dynamics and musicality. Everything don't have to be loud.
Wait a minute......To suggest The Ocean of Soul "didn't seem to know" the song, "Shame" is a lowdown dirty shame. Mama just don't understand. 😂
Seriously, You can't be for real. They played the f**k out of that song in the 5th Q. It was damn near better than Evelyn's band.
Keep in mind, too, the song initially had been taken straight from the band room at TXSU to the Pepsi BOTB field show in Houston.
"Shame" became even tighter and crispier this time around from the stands. It even had those little girls on the side bopping.
That round should have easily gone to Texas Southern. The song was clean.
That said, I understand some of you all simply can't take (or fathom) that SU (once considered the standard) was on the cusp of losing to TXSU back-to-back and is dying a slow death of dominance.
Their "exemplary pen" is gone. The ones they have left are "struggle and kitchen sink" type pens.
Plus, it takes courage to say sheer mass and power with low vibration-arrangements is SUs new reality - noise pollution.
Other schools are here. Pretty soon you all are gonna have to admit that Tyson (or Goliath) is taking "Ls". Sorry.
Motion was🔥. I felt Dani's energy. It was palpable and exciting to watch. Motion did not want to let her or themselves down.
Low key...THIS su is true to the su of the 70s and 80s- huge and loud, not much for countermelody and dynamics throughout an arrangement. But you are spot on here. Its funny how Simmons takes the Ocean back to their roots, BEFORE the string mallets in Funk Train and before they ever had bell fronts. He and his staff takes THAT Ocean sound and cleans it up even more. And all of a sudden it's: they tryna be southern...they dont have an identity, they play su cadences(never ever), they cymbals wanna be su(when su got it from Johnny Lane, who never marched for the Ocean or taught them anything 😂) or the big one: they uniform is just like su (because people on here are BLIND AF. Its actually sad. I mean the way they tell it, nobody in music can PLAY. It's all su outplaying everyone when they havent done that ever as a legacy edcept for two or three songs in their entire history.😂
in the first song for txsu its not a deduction theres 2 graces notes
grace*
KB so you just gonna not deduct 3 out of 4 runs the Trumpets played but give the Ocean a deduction for I part 🤔 sounds sketchy to me bruh
Somebody just have to say it... There is such a thing too big...SU...
More people, more possibility for errors and the Crispy sound is lost... We are just loud... C'mon man... Doc kept it tight...
Now I know why... We have officially crossed the line "by" 10 tubas, 4 bass drums, 4 cymbals, 30 trumpets, etc...
Clean it up SU... MORE ISN'T BETTER...
The Glow
Txsu has a great book. They made SU work
ready or not
Since middle school us new orleaneans idolized Southern and later on J State but I have to say this is the baddest year for southern as far as togetherness they sloppy bro but they still got the power to get it done
What's that song at 19:38?
Some of the stuff that you’re calling skating or muddyness can be attributed to how the parts are written…it’s marching band..every single gap/space isn’t going to be filled perfectly
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I dont get how SU has 40 tubas and sound like 20, yet Jackson has 20 and sound like 40....
Jackson does not sound like 40 please stop the reaching …dawg team sounds average at best this year
@@honestsagittarius4566and the golden stallions sound below average but I get what ur saying dawg team doesn’t sound like they used to in 2019 they not as dominant anymore
This is the second year in a row where txsu made less mistakes had a superior book, and was more musical than SU but still wasn't given the win.
I am starting to think unless the opposing band has damn near NO mistakes and SU clearly has a bunch of mistakes and tempo issues + has the better arrangement per round you will never give them the win over SU like for boombox.
Txsu you don't need more numbers they beat SU now, yes Southern is definitely more powerful but Txsu has more clarity and the power difference is not so huge to warrant staff recruiting for quantity over quality. Beside, I don't think Txsu would ever win the recruiting battle over SU given the legacy. Southern is a school that for decades was convincing kids to join them for free over other bands that were offering full rides.
I am not mad at your opinion though, it is what it is. Since txsu took it let's see if they will be 2nd in the SWAC this year or #1 after going head up with Jackson State. 😈
Neither of these bands are ready to face JSU (again for SU). JSU would have to be asleep at the wheel to take an L this weekend. Actually, that’s quite possible because Lord know the song selection can be a hit or miss in Dr. Little’s head sometimes. They’ve been doing fine all season. Hope it holds up.
Anyway, back to this battle. Uh.. it was decent. Unnecessarily long. Both were sloppy more than I would have preferred, but nothing too egregious.
The only “winner” was every fan that made it through this slugfest lol.
SU’s “Escapism” was the song of the night🔥👏🏾🙌🏾 #Jukebox #Dolls 💙💛
Man TSU back do to the new band director from the Southern university band factory. TSU is back
As a former HBCU dancer, I can say that when dancers are allowed to dance outside of the stands like Motion did, it’s an unfair advantage to dancers who are in the stands. It should be a stand routine, not a field show!🤷🏽♀️
I definitely agree but, TSU has over 22 girls so their is no room in the stans with rhe band.
I agree however Motion has been dancing out the stands for 2 yrs now..
when southern cram the bands/ auxiliary in that little space it’s “unfair”. So they have to get on the track, any team who’ve battle them has been on the track; motion just decided to utilize the space to their advantage.
@@tamikawilliams4635we definitely have 18 girls not 22
Only problem with that is , Southern crams all the visiting bands up in that corner so TX took advantage of the disadvantage lol
25:05 said it all
For my ear SU plays a few counts TOO fast on Most of their Selections.
Where's asst band director Todd?
Was that first song SU played from the movie..The Last Dragon..the glo😅😅...get it SU..but KB...I cannot believe u gave Southern that win against Rock The Boat.....broooo...it pains me to say...TxSU won this man...
Listen to the original song and how it fell off , they are being true to it …
Only the ones that actually know the song will realize that. Thanks for pointing that out bro.
yeah it was pretty close to the original i didn't see the need for the deduction, but hey i'm not a musician i just like to listen.
Bro it’s called dynamics everything doe’s supposed to played at full volumes
My brother oh the band head know you know it’s was a practice 5th quarter for southern university
SU and TSU both had sumthin to PROVE in this battle. You got to be delusional to think otherwise.
Hey KB, I would have let you on the field. I'm one of the police working that gate by the band. I know who you are🤷🏿♂️