got a 1990 F250 with a 460 and a e4od in it(94,000 original miles), first thing I'm doing when I leave commiefornia is exactly what yall did in this video
Seems like a lot of work, and probably money, to just add hot air induction. What you would gain in air increase is going to be canceled out by hotter air intake temps. This is going to be even more true in the hotter summer months. You don't have the venturi cooling effect like there is on a carbed engine. So any IAT cooling has to be done strictly by the fuel spraying from the injectors. And by removing the upper intake you are losing runner length and volume. So it's probably losing some torque too. I think if someone did want to run this kind of set up. It could probably use at least a 3" spacer between the lower intake and the TB adapter plate. That would increase the plenum volume and runner length. Basically like adding a tall carb spacer on a carbed engine. And it how much larger are the actual butterflies on this throttle body? To really take advantage of this kind of set up you would need a air box around the air filter that is fed by some pipes or hoses going to the grille or front bumper area. Or a carb hat and remote filter. But doing this kind of defeats the purpose of going to this kind of set up. To me it would have been easier just to add an aftermarket larger throttle body to the stock upper intake and just build a custom cold air intake set up to work with the new throttle body. You would have probably seen a bigger improvement with a pair of headers and freer flowing exhaust. But you'd run into the same issues with the tune.
@@Nick-ue7iw Changing the stock throttle body & rubber intake hoses is a whole lot simpler then this conversion. And would give a bigger improvement. The only thing I see you gain by this conversion is looks. It's sure not going to improve the performance.
Take thermostat off engine so transmission runs cold and if your state doesn't care about smog check take catalytic converter off for more power and a 14 mile per gallon instead of 12
It is a dodge 5.2 throttle body (unfortunately they do not mention this). I was disappointed after installing this kit on my 97 f350 460. Good looks and fitment but otherwise no bueno.
Excited for part 2 I have a mass air 97 460 so the low profile kit isn't an option but really curious to see the wideband results. I have the banks full exhaust and that seemed to wake it up a bit but still haven't done the adjustable FPR
You are never supposed to unplug or plug the spout while the engine is running because it can screw up the ecu. That truck needs copper plugs, lower thermostat and the timing bumped to at least 12.
@@cprgarage3206 Sweet!!!! I have a ‘96 that’s just sitting here waiting for me to make a decision. I have Banks headers and Y pipe sitting on the bench, but haven’t fully committed to the swap.
Iv got a 91 f250 7.5l lariat with hedman headers multi hole Fuel injectors and custom intake manifold my channel has a video or 2 on it she screams with straight pipes
Not sure why this is better exactly. Hard to tell from the video if the dodge throttle body is bigger than the Ford. Definitely loosing some plenum volume and gaining hotter intake air temps
@@nativeoutdoors1780 I bought mine from a company here in the us I can’t remember the name I paid $600 something for them never wrapped them and runs good made my own h-pipe setup and she screams
That throttle body is dog shit. Had it on my truck for a while. All it does is suck hot air. The openings in it are actually smaller than stock as well...just dei cool wrap the intake tubes to keep the air cool and you'll be golden.
@@cprgarage3206 nice man. I have one set to about 50 psi vaccum detached and it does great. One thing about these trucks that I learned is they dont like to go open loop. If you get a tweecer you can adjust these settings and then you can get a proper 13:1 AFR when your foot goes to the floor. Mine was never going into open loop till I changed it
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Looking forward to an update on this! Hard to find much info out there from people who have used it, this is very informative.
Loved watching this. Awesome video guys. I love seeing old trucks on the road. ❤
They go wayy older... back to 1948! Check out the other videos
That is a clean truck. The motor looks like it just rolled off the dealer lot. And yes it’s a dodge throttle body
got a 1990 F250 with a 460 and a e4od in it(94,000 original miles), first thing I'm doing when I leave commiefornia is exactly what yall did in this video
Seems like a lot of work, and probably money, to just add hot air induction. What you would gain in air increase is going to be canceled out by hotter air intake temps. This is going to be even more true in the hotter summer months. You don't have the venturi cooling effect like there is on a carbed engine. So any IAT cooling has to be done strictly by the fuel spraying from the injectors.
And by removing the upper intake you are losing runner length and volume. So it's probably losing some torque too. I think if someone did want to run this kind of set up. It could probably use at least a 3" spacer between the lower intake and the TB adapter plate. That would increase the plenum volume and runner length. Basically like adding a tall carb spacer on a carbed engine. And it how much larger are the actual butterflies on this throttle body?
To really take advantage of this kind of set up you would need a air box around the air filter that is fed by some pipes or hoses going to the grille or front bumper area. Or a carb hat and remote filter. But doing this kind of defeats the purpose of going to this kind of set up. To me it would have been easier just to add an aftermarket larger throttle body to the stock upper intake and just build a custom cold air intake set up to work with the new throttle body.
You would have probably seen a bigger improvement with a pair of headers and freer flowing exhaust. But you'd run into the same issues with the tune.
Inside those cobra tubes are giant air restrictors, the stock intake the engine is breathing through a surface area of roughly 1 US dime.
@@Nick-ue7iw Changing the stock throttle body & rubber intake hoses is a whole lot simpler then this conversion. And would give a bigger improvement. The only thing I see you gain by this conversion is looks. It's sure not going to improve the performance.
Take thermostat off engine so transmission runs cold and if your state doesn't care about smog check take catalytic converter off for more power and a 14 mile per gallon instead of 12
It is a dodge 5.2 throttle body (unfortunately they do not mention this). I was disappointed after installing this kit on my 97 f350 460. Good looks and fitment but otherwise no bueno.
Excited for part 2 I have a mass air 97 460 so the low profile kit isn't an option but really curious to see the wideband results. I have the banks full exhaust and that seemed to wake it up a bit but still haven't done the adjustable FPR
You are never supposed to unplug or plug the spout while the engine is running because it can screw up the ecu.
That truck needs copper plugs, lower thermostat and the timing bumped to at least 12.
Looking forward to part 2. Debating this on my 88. I already installed an adjustable FPR you may want to consider doing.
Yep! I also picked up an OBS 460 truck for myself to mod and compare!
@@cprgarage3206 sweet. Keep the videos coming.
@@cprgarage3206 Sweet!!!! I have a ‘96 that’s just sitting here waiting for me to make a decision. I have Banks headers and Y pipe sitting on the bench, but haven’t fully committed to the swap.
use the factory throttle body and swap to Mass Air
Iv got a 91 f250 7.5l lariat with hedman headers multi hole Fuel injectors and custom intake manifold my channel has a video or 2 on it she screams with straight pipes
The stock air box and runners were probably a hell of a lot better. You can tell where it’s unhappy right after shifting.
Beautiful truck
The trucks got to relearn with the new parts
I take it that is not the off road kit. I live in Florida so I don't have to worry about emissions. I have a 89 that I would like try it on
I would wait until part 2
Not sure why this is better exactly. Hard to tell from the video if the dodge throttle body is bigger than the Ford. Definitely loosing some plenum volume and gaining hotter intake air temps
It isn't check out my other videos
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Change out your fuel pressure regulator.. that's the major weak point to the 460. There finiky and don't always pull 40psi
I've heard they do better at 45-46 psi
@@cprgarage3206 that's what I heard to. Glad to see fellow Wyomingites doing truck stuff greetings from Laramie county!
@@nicolvilleoffroad ha I went to LCCC! The last chance cowboy college!
@@cprgarage3206 hell yeah buddy!!
My experience with this was to get rid of egr and smog etc and get some headers
Got rid of that on my 93 but still want some good headers
@@nativeoutdoors1780 I bought mine from a company here in the us I can’t remember the name I paid $600 something for them never wrapped them and runs good made my own h-pipe setup and she screams
@@jakebrakegaming7833 ooh that sounds like a deal, you wouldn't happen to know if they're still selling headers do you?
It's a shame they don't sell the twisted smog box anymore
I have one I’ll sell
Where did you get that flex hose for the egr . I need that for my 94.
Not a car part it probably came from home depot. It's just a flexy natural gas hose
Can’t you just run the Holley sniper kit and have better results?
Cannot control the transmission with that
That throttle body is dog shit. Had it on my truck for a while. All it does is suck hot air. The openings in it are actually smaller than stock as well...just dei cool wrap the intake tubes to keep the air cool and you'll be golden.
I ordered an adjustable fuel regulator so if the truck is still slower off it comes
@@cprgarage3206 nice man. I have one set to about 50 psi vaccum detached and it does great. One thing about these trucks that I learned is they dont like to go open loop. If you get a tweecer you can adjust these settings and then you can get a proper 13:1 AFR when your foot goes to the floor. Mine was never going into open loop till I changed it
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Your sucking in hot engine compartment air vs getting cold outside air with the stock air intake
What did you do with the kickdowm cable? I've got the same kit, but I can't seem to find any way to hook that back up
No kickdown cable on E4OD trans. All computer controlled.
Oh I see! Thank you
What causes my 7.5 460 with a carburetor getting gas in the oil
Blown power valve
That was an excellent question for, the Blown Power Valve Idiot!!
Probably didn't clear KAM
These don't learn fueling at WOT. The 02 sensor is ignored at wide open
All that work for it to be slower??
Yep, that's why we test! Put back to stock
Any update on this?
Yes! Next week. Just made changes today!
Do you have an update on this? I'm looking into doing it to my 87
I do not, been tied up with other things. Can't really recommend it at this point though. I'll update after more testing
@@cprgarage3206 thank you
remove the smog pump!!!
Sounds like it bogged down and misfired in second
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another failure. Someone find me a way to get better gas mileage and performance!