Great content! I was just looking for this kind of information and found it on your channel! Thank you so much for supporting those who are taking their first steps in arboriculture at the age of 66.5! 😃 🇺🇦❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🇺🇦
I always come back to the early videos that taught me what I know now and have achieved to make other configurations from now that I have really sincerely grown into the real climbers hearts I would like to say thank you very much for this video that you took the time to make
I don't have a long enough rope to tie a butterfly mid line, to have retrieval length too. I usually like to tie a barrel knot to my biner and choke that to the limb. I love the butterfly though. Can a butterfly be used near the lines end ?....or does it ideally need to be more mid line, to help prevent it "walking / creeping" loose ?
5:50 VERY minor point to be made. carabiners should be opposite + opposed. in this case the ultra O carabiner could be flipped while keeping the gate facing the same way cheers, great video
Tom G while that is normally the prudent thing to do, I feel like the pulley separates them enough to not be an issue. I like to face the both away from the tree. My observation has been that the trunk is far more likely to open a gate. Thanks for sharing.
yea in this set up it isnt a problem, i like the way you set up the ring cinch too. i think id prefer to use the ring as no worries cross loading it and no rope on rope friction ever thanks
3:45 I don't think loading the carabiner across the spine like that is proper. Carabiners are meant to be loaded along the spine. This configuration you've presented loads the spine perpendicular to the way it's supposed to be loaded.
I guess any which way you decide to orient the carabiner in the Pinto Cinch configuration is loading the carabiner in a strange way. Not so terrible that I would deem it unsafe or anything, but it's not being loaded in the way it was designed to be. I'd say, whatever way you wanna put the carabiner is fine, as long as the gate cannot be accidently loaded or opened by pressing up against the stem. Great video by the way. Lots of different options for CA's! Thanks duder
I watched a video about opening angles to reduce forces using redirects. Do you get these benefits without a basal anchor? If you only have a canopy anchor and redirects
@@sempi8159 I tried my own tests (only 2 of them). I did one with a basic pulley and a quick link. I used a well used rope so the test wasnt super reliable. But I believe the pulley methos was weaker due to the "sharp" edges digging into the rope in the knot. My tests broke close to 3000lbs.
@@sempi8159 I was using a Petzl Fixe pulley. It has those hard edges on the frame. so not sharp but sharper than a quick link. But dont forget that this rope was well used and several years old. The rope probably only had a break strength under 4000. maybe I'll ask @hownottohighline for a test
@@cameronstudley196 ah, very nice! I was wondering about the fixe pulley. Seems like its the “pinto light” a bit cheaper and less strength and finisch. But the pinto is very smooth and rope friendly so im sure that will be alot better. Especially with good rope😌 Would love if hownottohighline made more arborist content!
Good video but on the last revolver setup how in the world would you pull out 5-6 redirects? When that end of rope caribiner catches that first tie in, how are the other 5 tie ins pulled out?
But on the last one you said you've done 5 or 6 redirects and it pulls just fine. I'm still a little lost. Maybe an example on how you would set 5 or 6 redirects and pull this (pinto revolver) just fine. Thanks.
I've noticed something on every video. No one and I mean NO ONE has shown WHEN to tie a alpine butterfly. I can only ASSUME webern the other end of the rope comes back to the ground, you make a alpine butterfly and run the other end through it and pull ALL THE ROPE until it cinches up onto your tie-in point (canopy)
@@seanmack8731 you’ve clearly not done a lot of tree work if you are asking this question. It’s not complicated to understand, it’s complicated for the work.....things go wrong, things get caught.
@@aliray1165 different scenarios require different tools. It’s definitely not too complicated to pull out a cambium saver and while I don’t use that set up every climb. It does come in handy although I usually just basal tie. Yeah, I don’t do enough tree work. Your the one saying a tool[cambium saver] is too complicated to retrieve even when this is one of the most basic techniques and a standard on double rope if you are pruning. Yeah this is modified with pulleys and a little webbing sling but same concept on retrieval.
Great content! I was just looking for this kind of information and found it on your channel!
Thank you so much for supporting those who are taking their first steps in arboriculture at the age of 66.5! 😃
🇺🇦❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🇺🇦
I always come back to the early videos that taught me what I know now and have achieved to make other configurations from now that I have really sincerely grown into the real climbers hearts I would like to say thank you very much for this video that you took the time to make
Great video.
Good demonstration of the basic canopy anchors.
Thanks for taking the time to post it up.
Be safe.
Ranndy
Thanks so much. Great filming and commentary!
Nice video brother
Very nice - good clear explanation.
another benefit of the pinto for an anchor is if the pulley axle fails it is backed up by the rated becket below
Great instruction. Thanks for sharing.
Great video
Excellent video, Brendon … good job!
Nice Presentation! Great ideas for Canopy ⚓!
I like that Bunny Ring
I don't have a long enough rope to tie a butterfly mid line, to have retrieval length too. I usually like to tie a barrel knot to my biner and choke that to the limb. I love the butterfly though. Can a butterfly be used near the lines end ?....or does it ideally need to be more mid line, to help prevent it "walking / creeping" loose ?
You can use it near the end no problem. Attach your retrieval line to the knot or a splice.
very instructional video, also I saw that kind of carabine whats the model or name of carabine
5:50 VERY minor point to be made. carabiners should be opposite + opposed.
in this case the ultra O carabiner could be flipped while keeping the gate facing the same way
cheers, great video
Tom G while that is normally the prudent thing to do, I feel like the pulley separates them enough to not be an issue. I like to face the both away from the tree. My observation has been that the trunk is far more likely to open a gate. Thanks for sharing.
yea in this set up it isnt a problem, i like the way you set up the ring cinch too. i think id prefer to use the ring as no worries cross loading it and no rope on rope friction ever
thanks
How did you put the hole in your rope to accept the small retrieval carabiner
Red hot coat hangar.
3:45 I don't think loading the carabiner across the spine like that is proper. Carabiners are meant to be loaded along the spine. This configuration you've presented loads the spine perpendicular to the way it's supposed to be loaded.
I guess any which way you decide to orient the carabiner in the Pinto Cinch configuration is loading the carabiner in a strange way. Not so terrible that I would deem it unsafe or anything, but it's not being loaded in the way it was designed to be.
I'd say, whatever way you wanna put the carabiner is fine, as long as the gate cannot be accidently loaded or opened by pressing up against the stem.
Great video by the way. Lots of different options for CA's! Thanks duder
I watched a video about opening angles to reduce forces using redirects. Do you get these benefits without a basal anchor? If you only have a canopy anchor and redirects
dmm xsre - did you just stap the little biner through the rope? or is the rope eye spliced?
where can I find break test reports for the pinto cinch? I was considering performing my own break tests but would be nice if I dont need to
Would be interested in that to!
@@sempi8159 I tried my own tests (only 2 of them). I did one with a basic pulley and a quick link. I used a well used rope so the test wasnt super reliable. But I believe the pulley methos was weaker due to the "sharp" edges digging into the rope in the knot. My tests broke close to 3000lbs.
@@cameronstudley196 which sharp edges?
Thats not alot🤔 gonna stick to the texas tug then i guess😅
@@sempi8159 I was using a Petzl Fixe pulley. It has those hard edges on the frame. so not sharp but sharper than a quick link. But dont forget that this rope was well used and several years old. The rope probably only had a break strength under 4000. maybe I'll ask @hownottohighline for a test
@@cameronstudley196 ah, very nice! I was wondering about the fixe pulley. Seems like its the “pinto light” a bit cheaper and less strength and finisch.
But the pinto is very smooth and rope friendly so im sure that will be alot better. Especially with good rope😌
Would love if hownottohighline made more arborist content!
Good video but on the last revolver setup how in the world would you pull out 5-6 redirects? When that end of rope caribiner catches that first tie in, how are the other 5 tie ins pulled out?
Vincent Herman Natural Redirects. Not 5 or 6 of these.
But on the last one you said you've done 5 or 6 redirects and it pulls just fine. I'm still a little lost. Maybe an example on how you would set 5 or 6 redirects and pull this (pinto revolver) just fine. Thanks.
Nice video! Whats the name of this yellow stuff to retrieve the carabiner? Hugs from Brazil. Thank you
Great video, many thanks.
Thanks very instructive
Do you use that webbing all the time? It is safe? I want to do something like that, like a friction saver for DRT.
I can't tell you if it's safe or not. It's widely used, I use it often.
Have you heard about the zrunner?
thx for sharing
Is that yale blue moon. Rope?
Yes
very nice..good educated
I've noticed something on every video. No one and I mean NO ONE has shown WHEN to tie a alpine butterfly.
I can only ASSUME webern the other end of the rope comes back to the ground, you make a alpine butterfly and run the other end through it and pull ALL THE ROPE until it cinches up onto your tie-in point (canopy)
get ya line out from ground" otherwise why
English?
That last configuration looks way too complicated to be useful.
Lol how is a jammed pulley saver complicated?
@@seanmack8731 you’ve clearly not done a lot of tree work if you are asking this question. It’s not complicated to understand, it’s complicated for the work.....things go wrong, things get caught.
@@aliray1165 different scenarios require different tools. It’s definitely not too complicated to pull out a cambium saver and while I don’t use that set up every climb. It does come in handy although I usually just basal tie.
Yeah, I don’t do enough tree work. Your the one saying a tool[cambium saver] is too complicated to retrieve even when this is one of the most basic techniques and a standard on double rope if you are pruning. Yeah this is modified with pulleys and a little webbing sling but same concept on retrieval.
@@seanmack8731 nah it’s too complicated to be practical. Any tree worker with a reasonable amount of experience knows this lol
@@aliray1165 is that right?
Lol. I bet you are a great “tree worker” bud.