This is great, thank you so much. I love it when something comes up that is genius ! I've been enjoying the floating ring anchor, but this is much more advantageous. Why I never thought of doing this !?! Sometimes the best and simplest ideas are not so obvious 😉
Hi @@BinoH , I finally had a suitable opportunity for this anchor the other day. It was a large Ash tree with old dead ivy all over. I was super looking forward to converting my base tie to this inline floating quickie. But it came to my attention that there was a risk of the quickie getting left/stuck in the tree because of the old dead Ivy framework. Even with the plain dmm ring, there would be a chance of it getting stuck on a stiff old twig once the rope came down. I carried on with it, and no real surprise, the quickie came down (lucky !) Separate from the rope a few meters away. My summary would be, floating anchors should only be used in 'clean' trees when a line of sight can be made with the anchor on retrieval. If in any doubt, use the cheaper option of a ring and pull all that rope through. Because we don't want our quickies disappearing, or flying out of the tree on to hard surfaces ! As with all tricks and techniques, it's got a time and place, I like it a lot. Thanks again, Rob.
Great for ssrt, I have been using my quickie this way since since I got. Love the videos. Here in Hawaii we do alot of tropical trees. I would love to see more rigging videos. We do alot of rigging here! Mahalo and Aloha.
The floating Quickie is my primary SRS tie-in. A tip for retrieval: if you are worried about the Quickie coming off the end of your rope, attach a throwline when pulling your climbing line down. Once you've isolated the tie-in, the Quickie comes right down.
Why choose a floating tie off like this vs attaching the quickie to the loop of the alpine butterfly? Is it to prevent the climb line from choking the spar too tightly?
I’ve been using this method with great results......but I learned that some tree companies don’t allow the use of the quickie. .....Could a 3/8” galvanized quick (chain) link be a safe substitute for the quickie? Is this where the name quickie originates?
Petzl has a rated screw link. You should check it out. www.treestuff.com/petzl-go-steel-quick-link/?gadid=&gclid=CjwKCAiAyp-sBhBSEiwAWWzTnhX-I5Rxkr71olSmJnE20VFDS33LAR7togPUnoO9n0EemF0Vz7O4KhoCblcQAvD_BwE
So u could use a normal quickie tie in on alpine then below it use a revolver rig pully carabineer on an alpine butterfly and that should be able to have 4 redirects or at least 3 easy ones
Fastest redirect is a short sling and a carabiner. Basket it preferably in a crotch but can go anywhere providing enough friction. I keep 2 on my saddle so that I can create a compression rigging or anchor point anywhere. Has the benefit of just clipping your rope into it rather than running ALLLLL that tail each time. Its exhausting and us big guys gotta find those little nuances. They're critical. Save your energy for the good stuff
That's what I do too, I also use them to lower branches after I'm done with the redirects because I usually am taking the whole tree down or trimming what I was tired into. Love the notch quickie for setting canopy anchors!
That's a different anchor altogether. It would not have been possible to pull out those redirects with that type of anchor. This is better, way better.
Lol, So true I was on the computer and my wife comes in and says honey are you okay, I said yes. she replied that's you on the video. Then she walked back out.
Thanks dude - However your Quick needs to be facing in the opposite direction, with the pin section towards the butterfly loop, rather then around the working end. Be safe.
Why not just put the quickie in the loop of the alpine and around your main ? No need for the safety and it will slide down just fine when you pull the tail.
Yes, that works great if you do not plan on doing redirects. The reason for a floating canopy anchor is that if you do a redirect it drops away from the tie-in point allowing more free movement of the rope.
i never knew there was so much involved in tree work. amazing really.
Yes there is a lot to learn.
This is great, thank you so much. I love it when something comes up that is genius ! I've been enjoying the floating ring anchor, but this is much more advantageous. Why I never thought of doing this !?! Sometimes the best and simplest ideas are not so obvious 😉
You are so welcome, One of our views mentioned this so I had to try it and I liked it. I had to share. Take care!
Hi @@BinoH , I finally had a suitable opportunity for this anchor the other day. It was a large Ash tree with old dead ivy all over. I was super looking forward to converting my base tie to this inline floating quickie. But it came to my attention that there was a risk of the quickie getting left/stuck in the tree because of the old dead Ivy framework. Even with the plain dmm ring, there would be a chance of it getting stuck on a stiff old twig once the rope came down. I carried on with it, and no real surprise, the quickie came down (lucky !) Separate from the rope a few meters away.
My summary would be, floating anchors should only be used in 'clean' trees when a line of sight can be made with the anchor on retrieval. If in any doubt, use the cheaper option of a ring and pull all that rope through. Because we don't want our quickies disappearing, or flying out of the tree on to hard surfaces !
As with all tricks and techniques, it's got a time and place, I like it a lot.
Thanks again,
Rob.
Always enjoy your videos. Very informative. I like using the Notch quickie for a canopy anchor but I didn't know of this method. Thanks
It makes it a little easier to retrieve your line after a couple of redirects.
Your videos are always very interesting and professional, Congratulations !!!
Thank you very much!
Great for ssrt, I have been using my quickie this way since since I got. Love the videos. Here in Hawaii we do alot of tropical trees. I would love to see more rigging videos. We do alot of rigging here! Mahalo and Aloha.
Nice, Thank you for sharing. Take care!
Looks great 🎉 I like watching you work.
Thank you!
Great content Bino ! Now i have to buy a Quickie..lol
You will like it. Take care!
Thank you for this helpful video. (10:00 to 10:18 >> I have a dozen of those awkward squeezes each day!)
Cool thank you!
I had my gear shopping list set, now I have to start over, Thank you Bino!
Have fun, Take care!
Really good stuff! Thank you for all your great videos!
Glad you like them!
Good vid . Looking at potential snags with the quickie , is there a butterfly compatible low friction insert pulley .
I'd love to see more ideas for the quickie. I just purchased one and I'm looking for uses.
We have a few more video using the Quickie. Check them out.
The floating Quickie is my primary SRS tie-in. A tip for retrieval: if you are worried about the Quickie coming off the end of your rope, attach a throwline when pulling your climbing line down. Once you've isolated the tie-in, the Quickie comes right down.
Nice, thanks for sharing!
Why choose a floating tie off like this vs attaching the quickie to the loop of the alpine butterfly? Is it to prevent the climb line from choking the spar too tightly?
No the ring is more if you use redirects to be able to retrieve you rope easier when you pull your rope out of the tree.
I’ve been using this method with great results......but I learned that some tree companies don’t allow the use of the quickie. .....Could a 3/8” galvanized quick (chain) link be a safe substitute for the quickie? Is this where the name quickie originates?
Petzl has a rated screw link. You should check it out.
www.treestuff.com/petzl-go-steel-quick-link/?gadid=&gclid=CjwKCAiAyp-sBhBSEiwAWWzTnhX-I5Rxkr71olSmJnE20VFDS33LAR7togPUnoO9n0EemF0Vz7O4KhoCblcQAvD_BwE
Good work 👍🏻 nice. 🇨🇦🇺🇸
Thanks 👍
What foot ascender do you use and does it wear your rope out
I'm using the Jet Step. It does not mess up your rope.
That was a good video that's a good idea with a quickie I'll have to try that one
Thank you, take care!
Why dont you do the same only with quikie and butterfly ?
Do you mean a cinching canopy tie, if so it's more difficult if to bring down if you do a couple of redirects.
So u could use a normal quickie tie in on alpine then below it use a revolver rig pully carabineer on an alpine butterfly and that should be able to have 4 redirects or at least 3 easy ones
I like it and if I like it then everyone should, cause everyone has a right to my opinion, right Bino. Thanks buddy.
Yes, Thank you!
Fastest redirect is a short sling and a carabiner. Basket it preferably in a crotch but can go anywhere providing enough friction. I keep 2 on my saddle so that I can create a compression rigging or anchor point anywhere.
Has the benefit of just clipping your rope into it rather than running ALLLLL that tail each time. Its exhausting and us big guys gotta find those little nuances. They're critical. Save your energy for the good stuff
Nice thanks for sharing!
That's what I do too, I also use them to lower branches after I'm done with the redirects because I usually am taking the whole tree down or trimming what I was tired into. Love the notch quickie for setting canopy anchors!
The downside is having to go get them after you're done. Or, worse, forgetting them, pulling your line and having to access the tree again.
Wow, thank you.
You're welcome!
Instead of putting the carabiner through the butterfly couldn't you have just put the quickie through the butterfly loop and then back to your line
The reason you capture both ropes is so the quickie and float on your rope to reduce friction and to help remove the rope from your redirects.
That's a different anchor altogether. It would not have been possible to pull out those redirects with that type of anchor. This is better, way better.
@@robthompson1399 I understand
I like srt to get in quick, and drt to work the tree.
That's what is good about leaning as many techniques as you can. You can do what makes you more comfortable. Thanks for sharing!
That's where you come in! Thanks as always, Bino!
Hey chef! Your the best teacher to my opinion... But you have to work on your breathing 😂😂🤣💯👍
Lol, So true I was on the computer and my wife comes in and says honey are you okay, I said yes. she replied that's you on the video. Then she walked back out.
Thanks dude -
However your Quick needs to be facing in the opposite direction, with the pin section towards the butterfly loop, rather then around the working end.
Be safe.
You can use is both ways as long as the slick pins flat side is against the trunk.
Why not just put the quickie in the loop of the alpine and around your main ? No need for the safety and it will slide down just fine when you pull the tail.
Yes, that works great if you do not plan on doing redirects. The reason for a floating canopy anchor is that if you do a redirect it drops away from the tie-in point allowing more free movement of the rope.
Dont seems really fast ...and in my opinion its not great idea to stomp down on the ground the quikie
You hold your rope and don't let it hit the ground.
Do cardio. You’re out off breath.