Being Called to the YFZ FLDS Ranch - Manti's Story Part 2
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- Опубликовано: 23 июн 2022
- Find out about Manti's childhood being called to the YFZ FLDS Ranch and what he was called to do there.
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Honestly it was quite powerful to hear Sam say that he was proud of Manti and where he is today. I get the impression that a lot of men in the FLDS are searching for another man’s approval, so for Manti to get another male to validate how proud he is of him now that he’s out of that community was super awesome. Thanks for sharing!
I love this!
getting help is so important. my son, a vet with 3 tours in the middle east went for help and it saved his life. there is no shame in asking for help.
So proud of Manti. Can’t imagine what it would take to recover from that type of indoctrination.
OMG! MANTI is a wonderful storyteller.
Thank you so much Manti for being raw and vulnerable!
I suffer from complex PTSD and your characterization of really great highs and then unhappiness made it feel like I wasn't the only one who went through things like that.
I am so pleased for these young men and women who are able to overcome what is clearly an abusive upbringing - whether or not they are able to see it that way now. I have a feeling when they start to raise their own children they will suddenly be aware of what they missed out on and how limiting that kind of upbringing really was. Kudos to all of you who can move on in life successfully and aren't afraid to let others know how valuable it can be to get the help you need.
As someone who has also struggled with suicidal thinking from growing up in a strict religious environment, hearing this story helped me so much. Thank you so much Manti.
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Wow, what an interesting video. Manti sure overcame alot of obstacles in his life and to think he left 4 1/2 years ago, is amazing. If Manti didn't have the courage to reach out and ask for help, he may not have been here to share his story and experience a better life.
Wishing Manti calmer days and a happy life.
My neighbors house was built by flds and not only did we notice what hard workers they were but they also didn’t have music blaring and they had the cleanest job site. It ran like clockwork. Everyone knew they job and did it.
It’s great Manti’s come through such difficulties, but heartbreaking that he had to go through so much. I’m an intruder here-not LDS, not religious, but I’m fascinated by how good LDS people are in spite of harsh upbringing. I understand that what seems joyless to me may well have a lot of joy and connectedness to it. Just know you have my good wishes.
Thanks for this video and all the best for Manti. He is so courageous to share his story so openly and to advocate for mental health. I hope he can recover quickly and he finds his special partner to begin a family with.
Manti, you are 1000% worth every good thing your heart desires. Thanks for sharing your life so far. It’s a big world and you will find your happy place in it. Best wishes.
BIG PROPS,Manti, THAT YOU CAN BE SO RAW AND VULNERABLE without being explicit but while giving a full picture of what you went through. Incredibly eloquent.
Thank you Sam and Melissa for letting Manti share his story and be so open and honest.
Why do I love that Sam and Manti both showed up in blue polos? 😆
Wow it must have been a complete and utter shock to discover that everything you grew up believing was false. Congratulations on escaping, you are very strong. Wishing you a peaceful and happy life, free from your past.
by the way, the earth is flat and actually not spinning faster than the speed of sound
What an amazing testimony! I wish all the best for Manti and hope he is continuing with therapy at least at some level. After all he’s been through there are probably a few more ups and downs ahead of him. I will be thinking of him.
I’ve only just started watching y’all’s channel, and I’ve been listening to all the videos from the earliest to most recent! I have to say, it’s very cool to see your own journey, Sam. From the way you speak about your home community in the beginning-a little more neutral, a little more tepid-to now calling a spade a spade (“so the responsibility was on YOU to be righteous enough. yep.”); it’s just awesome to watch over time. Much love to y’all from a Texas earthy hippie dippie pagan. 💛💛💛
Woogie Boogie Flower Child, Making Love Not War...😂😂
Thank you so much Brittany!
This helps make so much more sense of the YFZ time! Way to go with the Mormon Stories interviews! I kept telling them to collaborate with you both!!! I know I wasn’t the only one!!
I was bugging Mormon Stories to bring them on too lol
They did mention that a lot of people reached out to them. Thank you for being one of them!
There are so many out there who would like to help the post FLDS, guys, keep helping them find resources ♥️♥️
"The Force" AHAHAH it made my day, I'm literally crying
Just finished watching, and I loved the video so much!!! It's incredible what he has gone through!
Manti has had such an amazing experience! How difficult the early adult experience must have been for him in so many ways. Thank you, Manti, for sharing your story.
Is Manti in touch with his family? He’s a real inspiration, courageous, brave, hard working and a very personable guy. I absolutely wish him all the best 💗💞💗
Manti…you have had an amazing journey and should be very proud of what you have accomplished and how you’ve processed your upbringing to get to a healthier place in life. Wishing you the best!
Manti- what a kind, sweet, and courageous individual. Thank you for sharing your story. As someone that has also dealt with depression, you brought tears to my eyes hearing, “you are worth it.” Your story is so important, I am so glad you fought through and are still here to share with us. Many blessings and wishing success for you!!!
I tell everyone that Finding The Real YOU requires peeling away all of the layers of your life that got you where you are today....I am 67 and I learned about this 5 years ago...When something comes up I work on it...Believe me I do this daily ❤
Mantis is so brave for sharing his story in such an honest way. His story is going to help some other young FLDS man someday, who sees this. Especially since he believed in their religious beliefs until a few months ago.
Also, seperate thing, your experience with PTSD & ECG therapy is a brave share. My daf had severe depression and he had that treatment. Hope Mantis didn't have memory loss from it, as my dad did. Proud of you, Mantis ♡♡♡
Whenever I see former members on RUclips who left and tell their stories, not only do I find their stories fascinating that everyone can learn from, but also I have noticed something else…. Which is… every former member is so well spoken, articulate, intelligent, and nice looking.
It makes sense. Fundamentalist religions involve listening to preaching regularly, telling your testimony and aren't big on slang terms, so they hear a lot of the language without slang and are raised emulating that.
This was a great video. Thank you for sharing and being open about your struggles, I’m glad that you’re doing better. Stay strong 💪 and carry on
Thank you Manti for sharing your story. And thank you for your honesty. I know it has to be hard at times but you’ve got this!! You deserve all the joy and happiness your sweet heart can handle. ♥️
What an amazing story! Thank you Manti for sharing!
Amazing episode. The mental health stuff was amazing. Thanks you guyz!!!!
Thank you so much for this... ❤️ 😍
This was such a good video! Thanks for sharing your story!
Great interview 👍👍 Prayers for Manti 🙏
Absolutely fascinating discussion. Only by hearing the point of view of the average person can we understand the hold the leaders have on them. A cautionary tale of indoctrination from birth. Thanks for this interview.
everyone's indoctrinated from birth with something
I really appreciate how honest he was. What a awesome interview
Manti thank you for being so humble and vulnerable!! This was amazing to listen to❤️
❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥Loved hearing his story! You are amazing!❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
I’ve watched your channel from the start, my heart breaks for everyone and all of the stories. You both address every topic with dignity and respect. Manti, your story touched my heart so much. You are an absolutely incredible man, with a beautiful bright future in front of you. I wish you nothing but love and positivity. I’m sorry for what you have been through but excited to hopefully see what the future has in store for you! ✨
great interview
wonderful talk thank you all !
I can’t believe he’s only been out for 4 years!! Amazing!!!!
This man is a wonderful person. I wish him much success and the love of a family!
I don’t have a ton of extra time to watch videos so I JUST got caught up on this series, the CPS and GAL series, and I’m just so impressed! You guys ask the same questions as proper investigative reporters who attended university for journalism. I’m wowed! 🤩
Loved this interview.. thank you for allowing Manti to be himself and have a free and loved situation that he could talk openly about his situation .
And I’m so excited that he and Joanna are dating :)
I really enjoyed this interview from start to finish (including part 1) Manti is such an inspiration. I too have struggled with depression throughout my life. Our mental health is just as important as our physical health. Manti was so open and honest and I feel his energy. Thank you guys for this interview and Thank you Manti! You guys just gained a new subscriber 💚.
Manti, wish you all the best. Glad u were able to reach out and get help. It's hard to ask for help. I think one if the hardest thing is how the FLDS just ripped families apart without any thought. Your such a great and positive person for all you've been through. Hope you find what your looking for.🦋
Manti stay consistent is key and I’m glad you said it! I struggle with that as well, and it’s so easy to think “Ok it’s all under control I can relax”. You’re amazing and you’re really awesome for being transparent about your struggles because for anyone growing up in a situation where asking for help is stigmatized it’s powerful to see a successful man who is ready to stand up and say “Look, I’ve been there”.
Very encouraging, thank you.
What a great guy, love Manti’s personality and I wish him all that he desires from life
Way to go Manti! God will always love you, bless you and keep you. 100%
Aww he’s so sweet!
Hi from South Africa, love the learnings. We have Mormon's and LDS but in very small numbers so I find this so interesting. thank you, kindest regards, Shaan
This is so informative! I watched you guys on MS last night. You were great! Can't wait for Monday! Love you both ❤️
Hi! Thank you for watching
Love when you have interviews sharing others’ experiences. It’s always so interesting.
There’s a young man from the Order, Eskel Grant (Amanda’s brother), who mentioned he thought it would be fun to do a collab about growing up in polygamy from 2 guys’ from 2 different groups perspectives. That would be fun!
We actually just got in contact with him this week and are going to be scheduling something soon, so stay tuned. =)
I am honestly quite moved by the things that Manti expressed. I am a Manti fan 100% God bless him.
I'm new to the channel. I'm so glad I found y'all. I love gaining perspective, over the years I've heard of FLDS probably like alot of people. But my parents watched the news and I heard things through them. I thought that FLDS was "extinct" I hate to phrase it like that but I didn't think it was practiced anymore.
Great video. I have enjoyed your content so much since I found your channel. Keep up the great work.
It's common for kids of trauma to give back to those who need help, I myself run an animal shelter. I help the most vulnerable because that's what I needed.
Anyhoo this was an episode two part interview. Hearing how joyful the ignorance of childhood was in a large family was so nice. I'm so sorry it could not continue that way, but to have a church of that size they have to control the adults.
Al the best for your future Manti.
Manti's story is such an emotional journey! I really admire him for opening up here about his psychological struggles after leaving everything behind. I imagine that is the next struggle for anyone leaving a cult, reaching out for help after they were told never to do something like that, or the worst would happen. Well done, Manti and keep going! It would be great to see a follow-up segment with him.
This is so amazing I am so happy and blessed hearing Manti's story. My Brother, You have so much to offer to help others. I want to Thank Sam and Melissa for such a fantastic show. God's Love surpasses all the negativity in this world Thank Bless You and Your Family In Jesus Name
Thank you so much!
What a journey! I'm proud of all y'all who got out and survived such mental problems created by FLDS beliefs and lifestyle.
I was involved in the Church of Latter-day Saints for a very short time...As a Christian raised woman it didn't take me more than a year to begin questioning the church beliefs and I couldn't stay a part of the church
"You struggle with consistency. In fact, you're consistently inconsistent, and it drives you crazy." The two sentences that changed my life.😂
Must say, he is a brave man WHO carving his oen path
Peace Be With you Manti❤
Kudos to you, Manti for getting the help you needed.
Also, I can relate to your experience of having sleep paralysis. I thought it must have been the Devil, but now I know my body must have just been malfunctioned somehow.
This was when I was 15 for a few months. It was really scary and I lost sleep because of it.
By the way, if anyone would like to join a mental health support group, both NAMI and DBSA have a lot of support groups. I actually run a women's support group.
Wanted to give you a shout out from Mormon Podcast.. Wanna see you get that party in Vegas
Excellent interview! I was deeply concerned of the girlfriend; after they broke up, how did she fare? Did she go back home, have mental health issues, etc?
He is talking about neurofeedback towards the end...I tried that for my anxiety some years ago :) very interesting interview he has a long and hard journey ♡
8:37 - that's how it is with the Amish here in Ohio. If you can get them to help build you have a good quality project done in a timely fashion and for a good price.
I have heard this before...unfortunately I can't support those who are in such churches 😮
Sam's accent comes out more when you are visiting with people from the crick
I read about that electrode therapy lately. In The Body Keeps the Score. It sounds intriguing.
I left the Normal LDS church and went through similar emotions he did when I chose to become “worldly”.
That change started when I left BYU Idaho via a mental hospital because I couldn’t eat or drink and knew I needed help…
Wow I’m so sorry you went through that Sara. I have no religious background and these stories are wild and scary to hear.
So sorry to hear that. I know that an exit from the LDS church can be so tough in so many ways. Glad to hear that you were able to go get the help you needed. I hope you are doing well now.
I should clarify, I would never say the normal LDS church is wrong. It teaches so much peace and kindness. It just wasn’t right for me. Most of my family is still LDS and I would support anyone in any way I can so they can worship and come closer to Heavenly Father.
Mental health is a life long battle (Manti should not let his guard down and give himself grace if he struggles or even thinks about suicide again (just don’t do it))
I will always be going to a Therapist just at different frequencies depending on the season if life I’m in.
It's good you got the help you needed.
What’s the story of Manti’s name? It’s very unusual
I would like more information about the electrode therapy. What is it called? Did it help?
Same, that's very interesting
For the FLDS construction work crews did group catering happen or did the site manager ever do anything nice for the crews?
I was an attorney on the FLDS case, representing some of the mothers. Are you planning to speak with some of them or the children who were caught up in The Raid & subsequent CPS case?
You have a belief system that was coming apart. Just the changes in the Catholic Church set me in motion to seek a belief system that works for you. It is very hard. I read the Collected Works of Carl Jung and this helped me. His contention is that humans need a belief system. He is very different from Freud.
doesn't matter if it's true? Why not go with the truth since everything is a belief system
I love learning about the FLDS. I have a couple of Mormon friends but FLDS is much different
Listening to this it occurs to me everything is highly organized. It seems like a lot of people, a lot of job sites, a lot of contracts and families in many different locations. Who & how was everything organized and kept track of to tell people where & what to do?
Who did all the shopping for the storehouse?
So Sam, how do I get in touch with you? You know me from Santa Clara 5th ward days with Dan and Launa...L would love to share exit stories with you guys sometime.
They have contact information in the video description- down at the very bottom🌼
If I remember correctly they check their email often- best of luck!
@@mikalin9286 Thanks for your help!
Just watched the Netflix show and they showed the Ranch. When they searched the church and found the tapes of Warren rapping a 12 year old girl was so sickening.
This is being said with all love and care and hope for further growth not at a critical or judging comment- the term “illegal alien” is harmful to both citizens and non citizens of the US. They are immigrants, asylum seekers, strong people who’ve made an incredibly hard journey for the hope of a better life. Just like everyone leaving the FLDS they are leaving unsafe or potentially life threatening conditions in search of a healthier and safer life. I love this channel because it helps me more deeply understand social, economic and faith differences of people who I live in the world alongside, so I hope this comment is taken as an extension of that mission of understanding, acceptance and growing out of harmful systems of thinking. (I don’t think harm was meant in the verbiage at all- Y’all just seem to be advocates for harm reduction so I figured it wouldn’t hurt to say something!💗)
Thank you Mantis for sharing your story and thank you Sam and Melissa for creating such an open space here.
Very well worded statement. Thank you.
Thanks for noticing this and gently educating about this term.
If their life was really that bad and now massively better, I doubt they care about the word. Seems like a first world problem to get offended that easily.
@@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr seems like you are the one who is offended, they offered a pretty thoughtful interpretation of the term.
@@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr This term is used to judge and separate them as people. Like many offensive terms, it is used by people with little contact with the community (like you, it seems). Sam and Melissa are kind and loving people who will listen to the feedback and use language that respects everyone.
Manti sounds like he’s explaining neuro feedback therapy. Which some clinicians use in mental health care
One question: did you guys plan to match??
Haha no we didn't, but it worked out well right?! =)
One thing I’m noticing is all of the people you guys interview are such kind people and they all have fond memories of growing up until the devil himself (Warren) came to power and just destroyed everything the people had
Feel bad for Manti’s “the girl” need more info
I wonder how the FLDS people feel about Jeffs now? Can they see him as a criminal?
They still believe he is a prophet and will be released by the power of God at some point.
I’m a new viewer and have been watching many videos to catch up. I was born and raised LDS and so happy to see that your family has progressed and that Sam embraced our faith. But I’ve since learned that you’re no longer LDS after having been endowed and sealed in the temple. That causes me great concern for you. I know… I’m only one person and my comment will likely be lost in the long thread of comments… but I just needed to express my sadness for you. I hope you one day return to the LDS faith and that you continue to find happiness. I just feel sad that you’ve chosen to turn your backs on the promises you’ve made in the temple.
We completely understand your sadness for us, because we too had felt that for family members that left while we were still believing. And while we never want to cause anyone pain or sadness (we have a lot of family members that feel the same way you do), we have to be true to our spiritual journey and what we feel is best for our family. We have not "turned our backs" on the promises we have made in the temple, but now view them differently than we did before. We are grateful that you are enjoying our channel, as we are always hoping to stay kind and respectful to those of the FLDS and LDS faith, and hope that you can still enjoy our content regardless of whether or not we share the same beliefs. =)
Is this the Manti with Joanna?
So,touch between husband and WIFES was outlawed.Sooooo,how did the women keep having kids?
They don’t. As I’ve understood from previous videos, Warren Jeffs has outlawed his followers from having children.
I am from a " culty Christianity" church. Not Mormon. Charismatic Christianity. This sounds JUST LIKE MY PAST CHURCH! - minus plural marriage and Prarie Dresses. BTW I do think the dresses are pretty...but blue jeans , an oversized men's T shirt and Tennis shoes has ALWAYS been my comfort clothing of choice. We did have closely monitored " arranged match making" which usually progressed to marriage. Although I was never personally exposed to Mormon-ism , there is alot of common practices. I did have a friend who was raised LDS. They were from Utah. I'm not sure if they were FLDS. This friend did mention Prarie dresses and the " Jesus Jammies" or under garmets. She and a friend in the religion decided to get married and escape together. They succeeded. They were married in the temple with the rituals. Only a couple of her family members were " pure enough" to attend the marriage. This friend did mention there was alot of sexual abuse with the young girls.They had no protection BC law enforcement were Mormon too. This friend also had a brother who was gay and would have " hook ups" with an ELDER or someone who was high up in the ranks of the church - a married man with LOTS of children. Anyhoo....your channel brings alot of comfort and healing to my soul. Thank you!
All these beliefs are so out there. This is definitely a cult. Heartbreaking stories.
Ah-ha, I now see one of the reasons all the money is going straight to the church, they can say it is all donations & not have to pay any tax on it, they are saving 15 to 20 % in no taxes as a religious organization with all that free labor. But, they do buy the houses & cars & clothing & food & pay for medical & they own everything, the people don't actually own anything. Lots of reasons for that too. If everyone lived well off it would be a great system but, I think they learned to be resourceful with what they were divied out.
Think about all those people being told to fast from sexual relations & no marriages, it is not even human to dictate those crazy things; they must have started wondering if it is not them that is crazy but the one who got himself put in prison.
Hutterites are like Christian communists and they make it work
And the Bruderhof.
How did you like being on mormon stories? I tried to watch because I love you guys. But the host just kept interjecting with info that was anti LDS. I tried to just fast forward when he spoke but I finally gave up. I'll just watch you guys here! (I realize that channel is an anti LDS channel so I wasn't surprised that he did that. I was just hoping it wouldn't be bad and I could just enjoy Sam and Melissa. Oh well!)
We are sorry for any discomfort of the interview. We continued to try and share our positivity and acceptance as much as possible and are grateful that you could sense that. We totally understand why you wouldn't want to watch it and are grateful that you are here with us and feel comfortable on our channel. =)
@@GrowingUpinPolygamyoh no worries! I knew what I was getting into but I wanted to watch you guys so much! you two rock. I have never felt anything but respect from you. Your goal was never to create a channel to tear down the LDS or the FLDS and you have done great! I've really learned a lot
Wow. Not giving you a paycheck is slave labor.