The big issue is not that there are no creative ideas out there; the problem is that these ideas do not conform to a certain list of standards that a small minority that thinks they are hot garbage wants. Sometimes it even makes you wonder why the suits in control of the purse strings STILL want to pander to this small minority, when we already know these people are only spewing their garbage only for clout to feel good about themselves. Customers are already voting with their wallets to say "we do not want this", but these people still insist on fitting that square peg through a round hole anyway. If they still insist on this path, I am not going to stop them, it's their freedom of choice. However, if this ship sinks, they better not dare point the finger at us for their losses, for we have already made our points clear and they just choose to ignore it anyway.
Anime pretty much conforms to standards and societal norms and follows trends yet it's raking in more money. Guess conforming to higher standards it better then standing out among lower ones.
@@WildZephyr Gotta say all the effort that Woke culture is doing to stand by their flaccid ideals, leading inevitably to them 'going woke and going broke' is helping give their competition not only breathing space to help fuel theri creativity but also helping drive advertising and excitement into the medium of anime and manga that isn't held back by such crippling chains, unless woke culture gets their claws into anime nd manga, and the rest of us rational people must stop that from happening!!!!!
@Greg Elchert Popeye was going to bomb anyways. Seriously how many people do you honestly know that are still into Popeye? Let's be real. The only reason that movie even had a chance to be good was because of Gendy's involvement. Take him out of the equation, and Popeye would've been DOA had it still been released.
When RUclips animators are better than whats on TV. For example Geoexe and his series Gwain Saga. He started with pixel and basic flash animations. Theres no excuse for quality under budget.
Stuff like this and how they New creators are only obsessed with: - Prom - Politics - Sexuality/shipping - Low IQ comedy - EVERY. SINGLE. THING. NEEDS. TO. BE. A. SLICE. OF. LIFE. Story! A show can have cheap quality and still be amazing. But the problem is that everything is is bad! Literary nothing is creative or imaginative, it's all terrible, and it doesn't help that the people behind this shows are "Manbabies" "Baby Boomers" or whatever you want to call them. It is why animation keeps getting a bad reputation, and why media has become another victim of culture war. And I am afraid it will keep going down hill...
western entertainment follows a small set of rules 1: you must start with a message about supporting some "oppressed" group. 2. self insert the maker because they are incapable of creating a real unique character. 3:there are no personalities, only what group you belong to as your background.
And why anime is supporior than most western animation. Still stuck with wack corny outdated gross ren and stimpy humor come on it isn't the 90s or 00s.
Hell Slice of Life anime is fucking great. Silver Spoon and others(I'm not going to type out the names) are fucking awesome. Cartoons on the other hand suck...
It won't stop and we have been complaining about this for years, and things have just gotten worse. It's almost hopeless. Nothing culturally has improved in at least 10 years.
Part of the reason reboots, soft or otherwise, happen is because companies want to keep the licenses for creative properties instead of letting them eventually get into the public domain. It's about control sadly.
Why can't we get awesome stuff like this anymore? Batman the Animated Series Green Lantern the Animated Series Justice League Unlimited Avatar: The Last Airbender Disney's Gargoyles X-Men the Animated Series I could list a ton of 80s stuff too...
90s Spider-Man, Iron Man, The Incredible Hulk, Fantastic Four, Superman, TMNT (early 2000s), Reboot, The Real Adventures of Johnny Quest to name a few more
@Rellik technically it was an Xbox game. Also the writing of gltas was solid. I'd rather that show over any of the garbage people try to push for nowadays
@Rellik I honestly don't care what anyone thinks of the look of the show. It was well written with great characters and memorable moments. People wrote it off just because it wasn't traditional animation, the people who actually gave it a chance were rewarded with a great show that even outshone Young Justice on a week to week basis.
@Rellik i don't really know much about the French so I can't say much there (nor do I have good feeling about most of em). As for current animation, aside from ducktales, primal, and somenof the dc stuff, name current running another series that is at least decent. I don't mean to sound rude but I kinda have low faith in tv atm. Venture bros cancelation did not help that either
@Rellik it’s just a basic character rig. My class is for beginners to intermediate so it’s weird to see that there is an industry created cartoon that looks similar in quality. At least with my character I tried to make her somewhat cute and appealing. She’s an assassin and pretty thic lol. I’m not a professional so what can I say anyway
@Rellik it’s an animation class from SCAD. ANIM 272 character rigging. Many people take at least one or two classes there without being a full time student since the tuition is definitely a problem. It’s a bit more convenient now since the virus because everything is online including next quarter. They have a vpn so you can use the computers and software from your home. After I become a professional I wanna be able to teach privately for less. And I just looked up Elf-San and dang, pointy ears and everything thx 🙏🏿
Western animation for the most part is an absolute joke right now. Dark days are ahead. EDIT: Genndy Tartakovsky is going to be carrying the entire animation industry on his back at this point. Thank God we have Primal.
@Frank Castle was a little disappointed in the last episode. Just more of when they finally showed the monster because everything else was intense. Still an amazing episode. But Plague of Madness and the coven episode absolutely knocked it out of the park. Having two such amazing episodes back to back really shows how much potential this series has. So glad they got renewed for season 2.
@nightwishfan1991, Garbage argument. There's current stuff like - Ducktales 2017, Kipo, Hilda, Infinity Train, GlitchTechs, Twelve Forever, Craig and the Creek, Big City Greens, Big Hero Six the Series, Amphibia, Clone Wars (season 7), The Tale of Princess Kaguya, Legend of the three Caballeros. Owl House, Amphibia, The last kids on Earth, Mao Mao, Dragon Prince, Carmen Sandiego, Primal, Green Eggs and Ham, But wait; there's more; CN got a new CEO who cancelled Thundercats Roar. He greenlit three shows as well (one that will be made by Gennedy), *and* there are more shows coming in 2021 like Jellystone, Gremlins, Kid Cosmic by Craig Mckraken, The Cuphead Show, etc. But sure; dark days are ahead.
I'm starting to fear this could possibly lead to what I like to call the Atari effect. Meaning that because there's an ongoing flood of terrible cartoons, the public will start to perceive all cartoons as garbage.
They already do... Stuff like this is why people don't take animation seriously, and could anyone do, when ALL modern cartoons are about is either... Insulting your intelligence or Lecture/Nag you about the culture war.
“Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.” American companies in a sector of the entertainment industry are endlessly pumping out garbage and Japan is delivering quality content in that same sector where Americans are failing to do so.
Well, the Atari Effect led to the Nintendo effect a few years later, when the NES was released and took off. Videogames today don't exist without that resurgence, so may we have to weather these bad times to get to the good.
I remember at the end of almost every Cartoon Network show in the late 90’s through early 2000’s showed the CN logo accompanied with a brief pencil animatic of characters of the previous show, as a gesture to the shows’ 2D legacy and roots. I see none of that reverence in any modern animated show.
yeah...and remember the AWESOME suped duper quadruper cartoon city? the biggest crossover of cartoons from hanna barberaq to CN ever made? when raven and billy could argue, or jack and jhonny bravo were in a laundry? etc... that was pure creativity on its finest! versus modern..ehm... average lookinbg logo and mid commercials, that look indistinguishable from a clothes store ads... except for clarence and gumball face on it... daamn that time was creative as FUCK! and you just realized the magic era u were inn after you look at the after taste that is modern mid ads...and pencil test logo of course ;-)
@@theALTF4 My son came to his own in the end of that era. He and I just would sit down and enjoy home run after home run like Codename: Kids Next Door, Ed, Edd, & Eddy, Camp Lazlo, My Gym Partner Is A Monkey, Foster’s Home For Imaginary Friends, The Grim Adventures Of Billy & Mandy, Ben 10 (the run that ended with the movie Secret Of The Omnitrix), Johnny Bravo, Power Puff Girls, and too many more to mention.
Good talent is just wasted now with these companies and their faulty leadership. I bet that as soon as there's a show worth watching they'll cut it immediately.
I mean Netflix has been doing that for years. They cancel Darkcrystal or whatever that show was called for heaven sakes, but they die on the hill for Cuties.
I don't know why everybody is hanging on magical girl squad because there's something in animate wrote that annoys me and I'm glad it's getting made fun of in this serious
THIS is considered an animated show made by professionals today? A bunch of half-sober Russians made 3 videos of animation that looks way better than that! You guys know Batmetal?
@@bleedingberryjuice Oh right, Growing Around was a thing! I forgot all about it. I haven't seen or heard anything about it in years. I don't think he's doing anything with it right now.
Whenever I think that Japanese animation being inundated with moe isekai light novel stuff is getting really bad... the West reminds me that things could be *so much worse.*
Remember when Animaniacs had stellar animation instead of the stilted, Johnny Test style that the reboot has? Remember when DuckTales was about adventure and not pandering to butch lesbians? I miss actual good entertainment with great art.
Ducktales 2017 is actually really good. As for the pandering it comes secondary to the plot, I don't mind a little Pandering as long as the Story comes first.
@@lehahiah81 I suspect it might be that one character (the moon inhabitant that Della Duck befriended) mentioning to Launchpad that she isn't interested in dating "Earth... men" in a tone of voice that suggested she was open to dating women. I honestly can't think of anything else, unless something like one character having two dads counts as pandering to butch lesbians.
@@jturner2577 Grew up with the classic and don't like the new version. Was hoping they would be more true to the comics than the classic was, but instead they doubled down on the kids and made them annoying brats. They have so much material that could had been used for the reboot, but nope lets focus on those brats instead of Scrooge and Donald. This feels more of a Quack Pack reboot. Another thing I don't like with the reboot is all of the nostalgia pandering by shoehorning characters from classic shows in. A good show wouldn't need that kind of bait. But then again; it is my personal view since I expected something else.
I stopped watching the animanics reboot trailer when they brought in Trump. Its like cmon guys, we got it.. orange man bad.. MOVE ON FROM THAT, PLEASE.
@@Saltedroastedcaramel I bet Merry Melody will be the main character. (She was the black girl that owned Furball) Though to be fair she does deserve more exposure. I’m probably the only person that remembers her
@@flashfunk0373 And lastly... Craig McCracken and Rob Renzetti. Rob needs to make another show or bring back teenage robot! Or perhaps a spin off or something original! I don’t know! Anything!
This is actually one if the reasons why I chose to go into a career in writing, I want to make stories that people will remember long after I'm gone (even if it's just a few decades). I've already got several first drafts for several different series, but the only thing is that I'm not the best drawer.
Thanks for the sentiment, but I still got academics to do before I can get my foot out there. For now, I'm just practice writing by using a fanfiction I try to post once a month (saving my actual ideas for after college or when I meet the right people).
RIP Toonami you introduced me to anime when I was but a wee boy even though I didn't understand anime was different until I was 11 I would still like to pay my respect. *Press F to pay respects:* *F*
F for what Toonami was to anime fandom in the west (I’m old enough to remember when it on 4-6 weekdays, with a lineup of Thundercats, Hanna Barbara cartoons, Robotech, and The Real Adventures of Johnny Quest) S to spit on what Toonami is now
@@WhiteDude-yd6ws I only give my F because alot real anime fans in the west from the early 90s to 2010s was introduced by toonami not the geek culture ones who got into it through Netflix and crunchy(pissed because crunchy ruining the chance web comics have for anime adaptation). Now with western animation hating on anime I respect what it used to be for me but put it down with a bullet for what it is now. Also spit on its corpse though too.
Man, it's like when Hollywood shut down they realize animation was the only key to survival, but they didn't want to try in making a good quality cartoon and put as little money and effort into these shows as possible. Hell, their doubling down on nostalgia pandering which people were sick of back in the 2010s? Hollywood might as well completely collapse because if their unoriginality is leaking into animation then their better off just kissing the ring of death and let other countries provide entertainment for America. It's working for anime, that's why their trying to compete with Japan at all despite not doing a very good job at it. Then again, can you even call it competiting when companies like Funimation is trying to censor anime in the west?
They can't keep themselves afloat without being bogged down by whatever bowel movement of the month the twitter crowd is having, let alone try to compete with anime. Anime is to the point of being as essential to japan as power plants and other nescessary industries. Even western cartoons during their best was only of benefit to a single corporation and part of a state's tourism commerce.
SU has better quality compared to these cheap adult cartoons and doesn't have every character have a bean face. That was the 2010s; I want to see something different for the 2020s.
@Rellik I'm not saying it had the best art style or humor, but it at least had heart, creativity, and effort put into it. One of the better shows of the 2010s.
It's less of SU being a mistake and more of people trying to copy SU that is a mistake. I stopped watching SU after Season 2, but at least they tried to do something original, even if the writing is bad. The problem is people trying to copy SU's style and story beats but having no talent or skill to write or draw.
I don’t know about bringing back Tiny Toons and Animaniacs. They can’t do half the stuff they use to current day. On the other hand Genndy Tartakovsky has produced some pretty solid stuff so maybe his show will be good.
Genndy hasn't failed us yet. Hell he even came back to make Samurai Jack's rushed Ending much more satisfying by giving us a proper final battle with Aku. He even appeased those Fans who wanted Ashi to return via a secret ending.
Same. I have also seen some ads for the classic X-Men cartoon on the Disney Plus RUclips page. I don't trust them- they are banking on 80s and 90s nostalgia to draw in the adult audience. Netflix She-Ra, Thundercats Roar and MK11 has shown me loud and clear that these companies don't respect these properties. Also, Hi! *waves*
Cartoons are genuinely worse since I was a child. This is because studios don't make as much, have smaller budgets and they pay their animators less. Look at Japanese animation from the 80s versus stuff now. The difference in quality is painfully obvious. Most American animation these days is stilted and jittery like it was animated in early 00's Flash. The rest is calarts beanmouth garbage.
I just want to comment that getting into calarts character animation program is HARD, I'm speaking around 5% acceptance rate (in the pogram specifically) hard. If you see the current students' films you'll see that each of them has a different art style. The funny part is that they hate that term, "calarts style", they do not draw or animate like that at all, and to make it even funnier, if you see at some animators and directors like Genndy Tartakovsky, Steve Ahn, Glen Keane, tc etc, they went to Calarts.
It was my dream as a kid to be an animator or cartoonist. My parents squashed it, and now I see why. God damn it. Oh well, now is the age of Indies. I'm writing my first novel which I will illustrate myself and sell on my own website.
It sucks in the beginning, but they seriously saved you. I had to learn this lesson in my 20's. What do you do now career wise? Much luck on your indie series.
I think there is still hope for animated programming in the future. This year we already got The Midnight Gospel, Solar Opposites, The Owl House, Close Enough, and Crossing Swords. All of these shows have been good so far. We're already getting a Tiny Toons Looniversity, The Animaniacs reboot, Unicorn Warriors Eternal, M.O.D.O.K, and Adventure Time Distant Lands Obsideon. It doesn't suprise me that we're getting shows like Your Daily Hororscope and Magical Girl Friendship Squad. There are animated shows that are made every single year that are abysmal. Everyone will forget about Magical Girl Friendship Squad and other garbage tv show's in less than a year.
Meanwhile, Disney has Ducktales...which I actually like *shrug*. Heck they put out an episode on their youtube site that revolves around Darkwing Duck which was pretty awesome imo
What was the promo talking about again? I didnt watch it as some people actually said that the ads was litreally letting the kids exposed their sexuality at young age, idk tgo
I heard animaniacs is going straight to hulu? And if they don't send tiny toons there or cartoon network, I will download it because I can't afford every freaking streaming service in the world!
lets hope that despite not having the original staff or their creator... still good somehow... i know it will not be nearly as good... and the trailer already gave turned on my "wokealarm"... but i still have a tiny itty bitty hope that it'be acceptable at least. and tiny toons goes for the same route. and yep, piracy is the solution saddly
Any bully who claims they are inspired by anime for the ugly cartoons clearly have hate for the foreign medium. Even Led Zeppelin used blues and existing chord progressions and basic ideas, and made them into something great-that is inspiring. Balancing the rounds and sharps, color separation, shadows, and thin lines are what make the characters look pleasing.
Basically the same as the comic indestry: A handful of the same people create all the same shows and most of them are shit and the fanfiction and the creator's personal therapy session.
Hope they don't cut Glenndy's new stuff and the Tiny Toons Adventures as well as Animaniacs revivals will be good. Let's also hope Disney continues to do well with Ducktales 2017, Amphibia, and Owl House because they need it.
This seriously isn't a "boomer" moment, this is the absolute state of animation being used as a crutch for cheap production for short term gains to keep sinking companies afloat
Remember when animators put time and effort and dignity into their craft and didn’t go broke? Japan remembers. Unfortunately for them there’s a huge demand and mediocre supply of animators and stories to fill that void. Hope they stay the course.
Someday when western animation get their act together and finally learn their lesson, will have great cartoons like we used to have back in the 90s and 2000s.
It's sad how independent animation is higher quality than a lot of television animation. Imagine you tried to pitch a show, it got rejected, and then you found out it got rejected in favor of THIS.
Sometimes i cringe over grown people fangirling so much and making full fandoms, theories, analysis and controversies over kids shows Then i remember thats beause adult shows sucks, and the kids shows can actually make you laugh and are creative
@@helious5056 Yes, even the CDI Zelda games, Hotel Mario, the DIC Mario, Sonic and Zelda cartoons and the CGI Donkey Kong have better animation and more effort than cartoons coming out today.
@@michaelbolcato192 the marvel cartoons from the 60s even though they lacked on animation they made up for it with a charming personality, A lot of these new cartoons lack a personality or if they do have one it's detestable and irritating
American animation studios want the cheapest product possible, and don't care about things like drawing skill, so as each generation passes, the draftsmanship level gets lower and lower, because students in animation no longer need to train super hard in draftsmanship and solid drawing, its been going in this direction since the 50s, shows like tom and jerry, and even the disney shorts they used to put on tv when my dad was a kid were the PINNACLE of american tv animation in terms of animation and drawing skill
I thought OMG that isn't even ANIME, or Anime like!... AND it looks like it's made for the *Moronic Minded* Toonami has lost me for good this time... I pine for the days Of *Ghost in the Shell* and *Cowboy Bebop* re-runs
@@guadalupev30 Same here, and the 3 movies, plus I even have the New series of *GITS: ARISE* OVA's .... *(-:* I'm also planning a re-watch of all my *Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex* anime soon. I recently re-watched all the newer ARISE stuff....
Why cant they just do what they did in the 80s-90s when Warner was looking for new content have people send in there pilots and whomever have has the best reception gets greenlit. I'm currently watching bakuman and it showed me the hell you had to go through just to get serialised.
This is why - and a lot of people wanna deny this - anime is populating the west more and more. I’m not even big into anime, but amongst the bullshit they be making, they know their audience and it hits. That’s probably why the Castlevania is in anime style; there’s flavor to it and they know it. The animators over there, despite their chicken pea for a salary, put their soul into it. I see more people talking about Hero Academia, Attack On Titan, than any cartoon in the west; even big shows like Young Justice, Clone Wars, and Rick and Morty
Seeing how animation has come, I'm still kinda worrisome on how my project will turn out. On the one hand, I have some confidence in my work, simply because of how low quality some cartoons appear to be. But at the same time, I'm worried because of how my project would turn out if it were finished.
@@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881 Not so much lately because stuff happened lately, but let see... 1. Higurashi 2020 2. Bear Bear Bear Kuma 3. Uzaki-chan no Asobou 4. BURN THE WITCH 5. Maybe rewatching the classics such as Higurashi 2006, Grenardier, Koukai no Horizon, Senran Kagura and etc. Might be waiting for anime adaptation of Kou 1 Desu ga Joshu de Hajimemashita as well as game adaptation of Madan no Ou to Vanadis by Koei-namely Vanadis Musou/Madan Musou.
As a boy who grew up on Jonny Quest, Flash Gordon, The Loony Tunes, and later on Batman/Superman(TAS), Gargoyles, DBZ, The Powerpuff Girls, and Cowboy Bebop I can truthfully say that the state of cartoons in 2020 absolutely SUCKS ASS.
Its more embarrassing because I heard that anime is considered advertisement for their Manga, but they still put more effort into their work. Then what is going on over here.
*Cartoon industry* : "The anime industry is beating us in every front, in every market, we must do something, so we copied it"... *People* : then why you choose "Twinkle Nora Rock Me" and "Chargeman Ken"?
I'm excited to hear about Tiny Toons! I was a big fan of it in the 90s growing up. I hope they bring back some of the Voice Artists that did the original. Here's hoping the series will be fun! Thanks for your time Clownfish TV.
Naked Mole Rat Gets Dressed was like a kids book series. The art looks cute enough and accurate to the books, hopefully it’s good. I like the creator so I’m happy she got a series ❤️
The problem is studios once hired animators. Now they hire illustrators and rely on tech and algorithms for the actual "animation". The art is lost and your left with empty motion.
Anime has almost completely devoured western animation. and with the rise of things like manwa/korean comics, , and those getting animation adaptations, even china's developing animation industry, American animation is in serious trouble
I can confirm that gemusetto is more like parody and made cheap on purpose to mock anime and from adult swim. That should give you that it isnt serious.
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This is why venture bros got canceled, let that sink in
Because good animation is $$$.
@@ClownfishTV and a good story takes time to write
We lost Venture Bros for two feminist with daddy issues and a MS Powerpoint Presentation.
They should make a movie to end all storylines.
That's a shame☹️
"If its cheap and ugly it means it's for mature audiences".
Don't forget obtuse sex jokes.
Company's no longer want to work for money they think what ever they do makes them tons of money even if is cheap shit
HARD to believe this has become the Industry standard.
You right
@@itsblitz4437 Greed and lazyness are rampent and nearly all companys bow to overlord China
Current status: desperate
Cartoon Network: not good
Nick: not good
Disney: N/A
I’m not liking the future
CN is actually improving though. Check out their upcoming lineup of shows. It looks promising.
Disney Channel is also doing really good.
Well Netflix is going to take over the animation
@shaquille mccray Don't Forget Big City Greens and Ducktales Reboot.
@Donald Sites Yeah that's true. But still the cartoons that are coming next year for CN look pretty great.
The big issue is not that there are no creative ideas out there; the problem is that these ideas do not conform to a certain list of standards that a small minority that thinks they are hot garbage wants. Sometimes it even makes you wonder why the suits in control of the purse strings STILL want to pander to this small minority, when we already know these people are only spewing their garbage only for clout to feel good about themselves. Customers are already voting with their wallets to say "we do not want this", but these people still insist on fitting that square peg through a round hole anyway. If they still insist on this path, I am not going to stop them, it's their freedom of choice. However, if this ship sinks, they better not dare point the finger at us for their losses, for we have already made our points clear and they just choose to ignore it anyway.
They will blame you anyway. Hence when the new market is created shun them fully. Treat traitors as harshly as the invaders.
Remember when cartoons used to be fun? Pepperidge Farms remembers.
Anime thanks them for the traffic
Anime pretty much conforms to standards and societal norms and follows trends yet it's raking in more money. Guess conforming to higher standards it better then standing out among lower ones.
@@WildZephyr Gotta say all the effort that Woke culture is doing to stand by their flaccid ideals, leading inevitably to them 'going woke and going broke' is helping give their competition not only breathing space to help fuel theri creativity but also helping drive advertising and excitement into the medium of anime and manga that isn't held back by such crippling chains, unless woke culture gets their claws into anime nd manga, and the rest of us rational people must stop that from happening!!!!!
🤦♀️ this is why you just gotta make your own stuff online
Agreeeed. At least Gendy's new show, Mole Rat and Netflix stuff like Kipo will continue to be good
Just don't end up like rwby..
So imma just slide up in here with a Shameless self plug
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it's confirmed, shgurr is a she-chad
Agreed.
Hopefully they won’t cancel Genndy’s cartoon like they did with Symbionic Titan which was a Big mistake
Modern day companies are allergic to money and success. You know this as well as everyone.
@@franciscorafaelmontielpale7854 At least he got to Finish Samurai Jack twice
yeah symbionic titan was pretty good
@Greg Elchert The Popeye movies is back in the pipeline.
@Greg Elchert Popeye was going to bomb anyways. Seriously how many people do you honestly know that are still into Popeye? Let's be real. The only reason that movie even had a chance to be good was because of Gendy's involvement. Take him out of the equation, and Popeye would've been DOA had it still been released.
When RUclips animators are better than whats on TV. For example Geoexe and his series Gwain Saga. He started with pixel and basic flash animations. Theres no excuse for quality under budget.
Agreed. I just watched the new upload for Internecion Cube on Liam Vickers Animation and that was way better than the shows Clownfish was showing.
That is true.
Though sadly Roosterteeth has fallen, others have risen to takes its place
I've even seen some good animation by using Ms paint and windows movie maker
Hazbin hotel!!
Stuff like this and how they New creators are only obsessed with:
- Prom
- Politics
- Sexuality/shipping
- Low IQ comedy
- EVERY. SINGLE. THING. NEEDS. TO. BE. A. SLICE. OF. LIFE. Story!
A show can have cheap quality and still be amazing. But the problem is that everything is is bad! Literary nothing is creative or imaginative, it's all terrible, and it doesn't help that the people behind this shows are "Manbabies" "Baby Boomers" or whatever you want to call them.
It is why animation keeps getting a bad reputation, and why media has become another victim of culture war. And I am afraid it will keep going down hill...
western entertainment follows a small set of rules 1: you must start with a message about supporting some "oppressed" group. 2. self insert the maker because they are incapable of creating a real unique character. 3:there are no personalities, only what group you belong to as your background.
It will keep on going down until it reaches the pits of hell, in terms of crappy shows being shoved into televisions and streaming services.
And why anime is supporior than most western animation. Still stuck with wack corny outdated gross ren and stimpy humor come on it isn't the 90s or 00s.
Sazae san, Chibi Maruko chan, Kiteretsu, Panty and Stocking, and Kill la Kill look better than the badly made cartoons today.
Hell Slice of Life anime is fucking great. Silver Spoon and others(I'm not going to type out the names) are fucking awesome. Cartoons on the other hand suck...
Why can't cartoons be original anymore? Stop the character replacing, race/gender swapping and so on. It's just sad.
It won't stop and we have been complaining about this for years, and things have just gotten worse. It's almost hopeless. Nothing culturally has improved in at least 10 years.
Polygon characters kind of look more appealing than the inflated cheeks characters.
i agree. just have a good story and good characters is that too hard?
There is a new dark cartoon show on Cartoon Network created by Genndy Tartakovsky and that is pretty closest thing we've got to any action cartoons.
Part of the reason reboots, soft or otherwise, happen is because companies want to keep the licenses for creative properties instead of letting them eventually get into the public domain. It's about control sadly.
Remember in the 90s and early 2000s when we had different art Styles and good animation...good times
To true
I remember the 70s and 80s. Most modern animation is cheap, crappy and weird looking.
yes...i think that's what is lacking! variety and experimentation
That makes me miss Teen Titian's, Justice League and Batman Beyond.
@@ArdannaL The feeling is mutual
Why can't we get awesome stuff like this anymore?
Batman the Animated Series
Green Lantern the Animated Series
Justice League Unlimited
Avatar: The Last Airbender
Disney's Gargoyles
X-Men the Animated Series
I could list a ton of 80s stuff too...
90s Spider-Man, Iron Man, The Incredible Hulk, Fantastic Four, Superman, TMNT (early 2000s), Reboot, The Real Adventures of Johnny Quest to name a few more
@Rellik technically it was an Xbox game. Also the writing of gltas was solid. I'd rather that show over any of the garbage people try to push for nowadays
@Rellik I honestly don't care what anyone thinks of the look of the show. It was well written with great characters and memorable moments. People wrote it off just because it wasn't traditional animation, the people who actually gave it a chance were rewarded with a great show that even outshone Young Justice on a week to week basis.
Mister T.
M.A.S.K.
@Rellik i don't really know much about the French so I can't say much there (nor do I have good feeling about most of em). As for current animation, aside from ducktales, primal, and somenof the dc stuff, name current running another series that is at least decent. I don't mean to sound rude but I kinda have low faith in tv atm. Venture bros cancelation did not help that either
Western Animation is now entering a Dark Age. Sure, you got a few good gems here and there but other than that. It's a colossal clusterfuck.
@@CosmicSponge2004 From what I’ve seen, it’s still doing good, but the west, for the most part, is falling
You can hate me if you want but I believe whole heartedly that the trend for bad mainstream animation started with Steven universe.
They entered a dark age since 2010.
@@DrawinskyMoon I blame the fandom for just amplifying the problem.
Stop being ignorant there are a lot of good western cartoon
That new adult swim program looks like the student project I’m working on right now. Wonder if I’ll get an A... not sure tho...
XD
@Rellik it’s just a basic character rig. My class is for beginners to intermediate so it’s weird to see that there is an industry created cartoon that looks similar in quality. At least with my character I tried to make her somewhat cute and appealing. She’s an assassin and pretty thic lol. I’m not a professional so what can I say anyway
@Rellik it’s an animation class from SCAD. ANIM 272 character rigging. Many people take at least one or two classes there without being a full time student since the tuition is definitely a problem. It’s a bit more convenient now since the virus because everything is online including next quarter. They have a vpn so you can use the computers and software from your home. After I become a professional I wanna be able to teach privately for less. And I just looked up Elf-San and dang, pointy ears and everything thx 🙏🏿
good luck dude.
@@MasterDoctorN7 thanks! 🙏🏿
Western animation for the most part is an absolute joke right now. Dark days are ahead.
EDIT: Genndy Tartakovsky is going to be carrying the entire animation industry on his back at this point. Thank God we have Primal.
Genndy is amazing
I hope he's able to continue symbiotic titan again
@Frank Castle was a little disappointed in the last episode. Just more of when they finally showed the monster because everything else was intense. Still an amazing episode. But Plague of Madness and the coven episode absolutely knocked it out of the park. Having two such amazing episodes back to back really shows how much potential this series has. So glad they got renewed for season 2.
He's gotta go back. Back to the animation's past!
@nightwishfan1991, Garbage argument. There's current stuff like -
Ducktales 2017,
Kipo,
Hilda,
Infinity Train,
GlitchTechs,
Twelve Forever,
Craig and the Creek,
Big City Greens,
Big Hero Six the Series,
Amphibia,
Clone Wars (season 7),
The Tale of Princess Kaguya,
Legend of the three Caballeros.
Owl House,
Amphibia,
The last kids on Earth,
Mao Mao,
Dragon Prince,
Carmen Sandiego,
Primal,
Green Eggs and Ham,
But wait; there's more; CN got a new CEO who cancelled Thundercats Roar. He greenlit three shows as well (one that will be made by Gennedy), *and* there are more shows coming in 2021 like Jellystone, Gremlins, Kid Cosmic by Craig Mckraken, The Cuphead Show, etc. But sure; dark days are ahead.
It's literally like the manchild of modern day Nick/Disney sitcoms where they do nothing but fart jokes
The new generations are getting nothing.
I'm starting to fear this could possibly lead to what I like to call the Atari effect.
Meaning that because there's an ongoing flood of terrible cartoons, the public will start to perceive all cartoons as garbage.
They already do... Stuff like this is why people don't take animation seriously, and could anyone do, when ALL modern cartoons are about is either... Insulting your intelligence or Lecture/Nag you about the culture war.
“Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.”
American companies in a sector of the entertainment industry are endlessly pumping out garbage and Japan is delivering quality content in that same sector where Americans are failing to do so.
absolutely can't wait to see peoples' future opinions on cartoons in general! (p.s. this is totally sarcasm)
Western cartoons
Well, the Atari Effect led to the Nintendo effect a few years later, when the NES was released and took off. Videogames today don't exist without that resurgence, so may we have to weather these bad times to get to the good.
I remember at the end of almost every Cartoon Network show in the late 90’s through early 2000’s showed the CN logo accompanied with a brief pencil animatic of characters of the previous show, as a gesture to the shows’ 2D legacy and roots. I see none of that reverence in any modern animated show.
Because all the old stuff is rAcIsT and mIsOgYnIsTiK. They hate all the old stuff because it doesn't have a political message.
yeah...and remember the AWESOME suped duper quadruper cartoon city? the biggest crossover of cartoons from hanna barberaq to CN ever made? when raven and billy could argue, or jack and jhonny bravo were in a laundry? etc... that was pure creativity on its finest!
versus modern..ehm... average lookinbg logo and mid commercials, that look indistinguishable from a clothes store ads... except for clarence and gumball face on it...
daamn that time was creative as FUCK! and you just realized the magic era u were inn after you look at the after taste that is modern mid ads...and pencil test logo of course ;-)
@@theALTF4 My son came to his own in the end of that era. He and I just would sit down and enjoy home run after home run like Codename: Kids Next Door, Ed, Edd, & Eddy, Camp Lazlo, My Gym Partner Is A Monkey, Foster’s Home For Imaginary Friends, The Grim Adventures Of Billy & Mandy, Ben 10 (the run that ended with the movie Secret Of The Omnitrix), Johnny Bravo, Power Puff Girls, and too many more to mention.
@@jackbordar2727 actually they still have dont they? because ok k.o and su still had em.
Good talent is just wasted now with these companies and their faulty leadership. I bet that as soon as there's a show worth watching they'll cut it immediately.
true. who'd want their company to fail?
I mean Netflix has been doing that for years. They cancel Darkcrystal or whatever that show was called for heaven sakes, but they die on the hill for Cuties.
@@retrogamer6403 dont forget they keep on renewing seasons of Big Mouth which is has gotten worse overall.
@@retrogamer6403 I mean, there have been plenty of shows worth watching that haven't been cut. But let's not talk about that.
I rewatched some old Swat Kat episodes and they look like the super high end animated series compared to say... Magical Girl Friendship Squad.
I don't know why everybody is hanging on magical girl squad because there's something in animate wrote that annoys me and I'm glad it's getting made fun of in this serious
I know Swat Cats was awesome top to bottom. I miss the old quality intro's aswell and catcy music aswell. You knew instantly what was on.
No joke, what the hell are they teaching people in these Art and Animation schools??? I have seen stick figure animation that blow this stuff away!
@Pedro Ortega That is sad and scary is that I would say you are 100%...wait left out a zero, 1,000% right!
yeah, it's almost a lost art, i'm pretty sure there's an interview of Genndy Tartakovsky talking about that.
@Pedro Ortega While I feel that's a bit of an overstatement.... At the same time, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if that were actually true.
THIS is considered an animated show made by professionals today?
A bunch of half-sober Russians made 3 videos of animation that looks way better than that!
You guys know Batmetal?
At this rate Mr. Enter is gonna have to extend his "worst 10 cartoons of the 2020's" video in 2030 to worst 100 at least.
From the looks of his "original idea" I wouldn't count his two cents too much
@@bleedingberryjuice He’s still pursuing Growing Around?
@@mayborneflower I dunno but I hope not
@@bleedingberryjuice Oh right, Growing Around was a thing! I forgot all about it. I haven't seen or heard anything about it in years. I don't think he's doing anything with it right now.
Reminder that the best animated Tiny Toons and Animaniacs (and I assume also Freakazoid) episodes were animated over at TMS, Japan.
Whenever I think that Japanese animation being inundated with moe isekai light novel stuff is getting really bad... the West reminds me that things could be *so much worse.*
Even the cheapest, dime-a-dozen harem isekai fantasy anime has art and animation a thousand times better than any of these American cartoons.
@@lahuk1194 Adult Swim's "Primal" destroys your argument.
Most Animation in the west is dead. Genndy knows what we like however.
Genndy is a genius, that’s why.
@@michaelbolcato192 Ain't it the truth man
@@Dr.Gold-Dry-Bowser Genndy always knows what’s he’s doing.
@@michaelbolcato192 he knows how to tell a story, and not fan fic
@@michaelbolcato192 Yep I agree with you on that.
Remember when Animaniacs had stellar animation instead of the stilted, Johnny Test style that the reboot has?
Remember when DuckTales was about adventure and not pandering to butch lesbians?
I miss actual good entertainment with great art.
Ducktales 2017 is actually really good. As for the pandering it comes secondary to the plot, I don't mind a little Pandering as long as the Story comes first.
I must be missing something with the pandering to butch lesbians part, I'm curious.
@@lehahiah81 I suspect it might be that one character (the moon inhabitant that Della Duck befriended) mentioning to Launchpad that she isn't interested in dating "Earth... men" in a tone of voice that suggested she was open to dating women.
I honestly can't think of anything else, unless something like one character having two dads counts as pandering to butch lesbians.
@@jturner2577 Grew up with the classic and don't like the new version. Was hoping they would be more true to the comics than the classic was, but instead they doubled down on the kids and made them annoying brats. They have so much material that could had been used for the reboot, but nope lets focus on those brats instead of Scrooge and Donald. This feels more of a Quack Pack reboot.
Another thing I don't like with the reboot is all of the nostalgia pandering by shoehorning characters from classic shows in.
A good show wouldn't need that kind of bait. But then again; it is my personal view since I expected something else.
I stopped watching the animanics reboot trailer when they brought in Trump. Its like cmon guys, we got it.. orange man bad.. MOVE ON FROM THAT, PLEASE.
cartoons of today
90% politics
10% effort
2020 cartoons look like cheap flash animations
Tiny Toons reboot? Wow! Well I for one CAN'T WAIT for Babs to tell Buster to stop bunnysplaining.
Same expectations for Animaniacs sadly. Especially when I seen Animeniacs...
They're just going to be filled with nothing but cheap jokes and references that just shout "Hello, fellow kids" with that machine gun humor.
Wanna bet Fifi isn't gonna be in the reboot?
@@Saltedroastedcaramel I bet Merry Melody will be the main character. (She was the black girl that owned Furball) Though to be fair she does deserve more exposure. I’m probably the only person that remembers her
Who is going to voice Montana Max? He was voiced by a teen going to puberty.
Save us Ralph Bakshi, Don Bluth, and Todd McFarlane!!! Your are only hope!!!
And Genndy Tartakovsky
@@flashfunk0373 And lastly... Craig McCracken and Rob Renzetti. Rob needs to make another show or bring back teenage robot! Or perhaps a spin off or something original! I don’t know! Anything!
But who's able to give any of them a budget these days? Bakshi and Bluth would take years on a project.
@shaquille mccray Him too
@@Seras99 Them too. Craig was meant to make a show for Netflix called Kid Cosmic but I don't know what's going on behind the scenes.
This is actually one if the reasons why I chose to go into a career in writing, I want to make stories that people will remember long after I'm gone (even if it's just a few decades). I've already got several first drafts for several different series, but the only thing is that I'm not the best drawer.
I wish i could help you. I've done some drawings even some speed drawings you can check out on my channel to prove it.
Sound pretty awesome.
Thanks for the sentiment, but I still got academics to do before I can get my foot out there. For now, I'm just practice writing by using a fanfiction I try to post once a month (saving my actual ideas for after college or when I meet the right people).
RIP Toonami you introduced me to anime when I was but a wee boy even though I didn't understand anime was different until I was 11 I would still like to pay my respect.
*Press F to pay respects:*
*F*
F for what Toonami was to anime fandom in the west (I’m old enough to remember when it on 4-6 weekdays, with a lineup of Thundercats, Hanna Barbara cartoons, Robotech, and The Real Adventures of Johnny Quest)
S to spit on what Toonami is now
@@WhiteDude-yd6ws I only give my F because alot real anime fans in the west from the early 90s to 2010s was introduced by toonami not the geek culture ones who got into it through Netflix and crunchy(pissed because crunchy ruining the chance web comics have for anime adaptation). Now with western animation hating on anime I respect what it used to be for me but put it down with a bullet for what it is now. Also spit on its corpse though too.
Kneon and Geeky Sparkles.
Name a better duo, I won't wait.
Geeky and Kneon
@@franciscorafaelmontielpale7854 Get out.
The Senate and Unlimited Power
Optimus Prime and Bumblebee
Megatron and Starscream
Steve and Terri Irwin
We need more stuff like Archer, The Critic, & Duckman.
I can’t understand why more people are watching Anime over Western cartoons.
It’s a mystery that only Scooby and the gang can solve.
Maybe because the artists and writers are actually passionate about their projects?
@@Attmay
Can you please explain? I'm not familiar with this stuff.
Man, it's like when Hollywood shut down they realize animation was the only key to survival, but they didn't want to try in making a good quality cartoon and put as little money and effort into these shows as possible. Hell, their doubling down on nostalgia pandering which people were sick of back in the 2010s? Hollywood might as well completely collapse because if their unoriginality is leaking into animation then their better off just kissing the ring of death and let other countries provide entertainment for America.
It's working for anime, that's why their trying to compete with Japan at all despite not doing a very good job at it. Then again, can you even call it competiting when companies like Funimation is trying to censor anime in the west?
They can't keep themselves afloat without being bogged down by whatever bowel movement of the month the twitter crowd is having, let alone try to compete with anime. Anime is to the point of being as essential to japan as power plants and other nescessary industries. Even western cartoons during their best was only of benefit to a single corporation and part of a state's tourism commerce.
Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss are going to stomp these cartoons easily.
The west hit a creative zenith in the 80s and 90s. Its been downhill since
There where a few gems in the early 2000's too... But I'll admit they are few.
Lets face it you don't actually need talent to write or animate these days just tick the right boxes and your in, hence garbage in garbage out.
Downhill? They basically jumped off a cliff at breakneck speed
It gone downhill since Toonami died in 2008 it broke down even more when The Hub got rebranded.
Steven Universe was a mistake.
Even though I like SU, I wish it wasn't part of this crap right now.
SU has better quality compared to these cheap adult cartoons and doesn't have every character have a bean face. That was the 2010s; I want to see something different for the 2020s.
@Rellik
I'm not saying it had the best art style or humor, but it at least had heart, creativity, and effort put into it. One of the better shows of the 2010s.
It's less of SU being a mistake and more of people trying to copy SU that is a mistake. I stopped watching SU after Season 2, but at least they tried to do something original, even if the writing is bad. The problem is people trying to copy SU's style and story beats but having no talent or skill to write or draw.
@@darrelsam419 actually when I look at Gumball and Steven universe they look similar and plus Gumball came out before Steven Universe
I don’t know about bringing back Tiny Toons and Animaniacs. They can’t do half the stuff they use to current day.
On the other hand Genndy Tartakovsky has produced some pretty solid stuff so maybe his show will be good.
Genndy hasn't failed us yet. Hell he even came back to make Samurai Jack's rushed Ending much more satisfying by giving us a proper final battle with Aku. He even appeased those Fans who wanted Ashi to return via a secret ending.
Same. I have also seen some ads for the classic X-Men cartoon on the Disney Plus RUclips page. I don't trust them- they are banking on 80s and 90s nostalgia to draw in the adult audience. Netflix She-Ra, Thundercats Roar and MK11 has shown me loud and clear that these companies don't respect these properties.
Also, Hi! *waves*
@@jeangentry6656 hi👋
@@jeangentry6656 Wait, what's MK11? Mortal Kombat?
@@Sorrior Yes I mean the game
I've seen clog up toilets with more appeal than most of these cartoons.
Inb4 "they race and gender swap "Ed, Edd and Eddy" and make it "J, Jae and Jaekwanda".
Cartoons are genuinely worse since I was a child. This is because studios don't make as much, have smaller budgets and they pay their animators less. Look at Japanese animation from the 80s versus stuff now. The difference in quality is painfully obvious. Most American animation these days is stilted and jittery like it was animated in early 00's Flash. The rest is calarts beanmouth garbage.
I just want to comment that getting into calarts character animation program is HARD, I'm speaking around 5% acceptance rate (in the pogram specifically) hard. If you see the current students' films you'll see that each of them has a different art style. The funny part is that they hate that term, "calarts style", they do not draw or animate like that at all, and to make it even funnier, if you see at some animators and directors like Genndy Tartakovsky, Steve Ahn, Glen Keane, tc etc, they went to Calarts.
These horrible adult animation: Magical Girl and is making my head hurt. They feel very rushed like no one spent time on it.
Cartoons these days just aren’t that appealing to me anymore. Anime is the way
It was my dream as a kid to be an animator or cartoonist. My parents squashed it, and now I see why. God damn it.
Oh well, now is the age of Indies. I'm writing my first novel which I will illustrate myself and sell on my own website.
It sucks in the beginning, but they seriously saved you. I had to learn this lesson in my 20's. What do you do now career wise? Much luck on your indie series.
Promote that website!
I miss the 90s and early 2010s at least the programming schedule back then wasn’t just 3 or 4 hours of one show unless it was a marathon.
I think there is still hope for animated programming in the future. This year we already got The Midnight Gospel, Solar Opposites, The Owl House, Close Enough, and Crossing Swords. All of these shows have been good so far. We're already getting a Tiny Toons Looniversity, The Animaniacs reboot, Unicorn Warriors Eternal, M.O.D.O.K, and Adventure Time Distant Lands Obsideon. It doesn't suprise me that we're getting shows like Your Daily Hororscope and Magical Girl Friendship Squad. There are animated shows that are made every single year that are abysmal.
Everyone will forget about Magical Girl Friendship Squad and other garbage tv show's in less than a year.
Meanwhile, Disney has Ducktales...which I actually like *shrug*.
Heck they put out an episode on their youtube site that revolves around Darkwing Duck which was pretty awesome imo
Please make fun of that awful Steven Universe "anti-racism" promo
That was a promo? I thought that was fan animation lol.
@@Power-9Hunnid its on the official cartoon network channel and even says that Rebecca sugar wrote it haha I thought it was a parody at first too
And also that Arthur one...oh god-
What was the promo talking about again? I didnt watch it as some people actually said that the ads was litreally letting the kids exposed their sexuality at young age, idk tgo
I heard animaniacs is going straight to hulu? And if they don't send tiny toons there or cartoon network, I will download it because I can't afford every freaking streaming service in the world!
lets hope that despite not having the original staff or their creator... still good somehow...
i know it will not be nearly as good... and the trailer already gave turned on my "wokealarm"... but i still have a tiny itty bitty hope that it'be acceptable at least. and tiny toons goes for the same route.
and yep, piracy is the solution saddly
Any bully who claims they are inspired by anime for the ugly cartoons clearly have hate for the foreign medium. Even Led Zeppelin used blues and existing chord progressions and basic ideas, and made them into something great-that is inspiring. Balancing the rounds and sharps, color separation, shadows, and thin lines are what make the characters look pleasing.
Corners aren't allowed, cut them all off
Which is how we got fat and inflated cheek characters.
Executive: circles!!! The future is circles!!
@@spritemon98 aaaaawwhhhhhhhh! That's brilliant round of applause everyone!
6:33 Do it! I want to see a Clownfish TV animated show!
Basically the same as the comic indestry: A handful of the same people create all the same shows and most of them are shit and the fanfiction and the creator's personal therapy session.
Steven Universe TRULY ruined an entire generation of animators... It's the Family Guy of NPC cartoons...
Hope they don't cut Glenndy's new stuff and the Tiny Toons Adventures as well as Animaniacs revivals will be good. Let's also hope Disney continues to do well with Ducktales 2017, Amphibia, and Owl House because they need it.
Just heard Elmyra Duff voiced by Cree Summer won't be back.
This seriously isn't a "boomer" moment, this is the absolute state of animation being used as a crutch for cheap production for short term gains to keep sinking companies afloat
They can try all they want but eventually it will sink.
We need people like Walt Disney who have a vision and creative mind
Cartoons: I have no time to compete with you. Anime: Compete? You cant even stand on your own two feet.
"it looks like flash animation from newgrounds 10-15 years ago"
damn im old...
Remember when animators put time and effort and dignity into their craft and didn’t go broke? Japan remembers. Unfortunately for them there’s a huge demand and mediocre supply of animators and stories to fill that void. Hope they stay the course.
Someday when western animation get their act together and finally learn their lesson, will have great cartoons like we used to have back in the 90s and 2000s.
Don't hold your breath.
@@th3azscorpio Someday. Maybe in a couple of years.
@@dontemorgan1517 ha as if we'll probably be old and senile before that ever happened
@@pattonramming1988 lol true but will the next gen be more smart and intelligent
It’s gone to shit. Not getting Disney+, Netflix, or HBOMax. They haven’t earned a damn thing, nor did they learn anything.
Too much wokeness.
The time has come, execute order 66
@@JoseHernandez-xv2bt I would actually pay to have entertainment purged of the woke crap.
@@claws2129 i would too, there enough bullets for each and every single kind of woke crap getting shot
It's sad how independent animation is higher quality than a lot of television animation. Imagine you tried to pitch a show, it got rejected, and then you found out it got rejected in favor of THIS.
FWIW, what I’ve watched of “Blood of Zeus” looks AMAAAAAZING.
(I still miss “Bojack Horseman” though...)
Sometimes i cringe over grown people fangirling so much and making full fandoms, theories, analysis and controversies over kids shows
Then i remember thats beause adult shows sucks, and the kids shows can actually make you laugh and are creative
That cheetah in the thumbnail is pure nightmare fuel.
Cartoons from the 1940s are better animated than the animated crap in 2020 that you're showing in this video.
And people wonder why anime does so well
The animation in the beginning, that just gave me the "problem solverz" nonsense
That moment when ClownfishTV has better animation than the animation industry and they just bob sprites up and down.
I feel like there's a way to do cheap animation right, most of these shows do cheap animation wrong
Aqua Teen Hunger Force and Space Ghost Coast to Coast does cheap animation right.
@@michaelbolcato192 yeah, also I feel like there are way too many web cartoons and animations to count that do cheap animation right
@@helious5056 Yes, even the CDI Zelda games, Hotel Mario, the DIC Mario, Sonic and Zelda cartoons and the CGI Donkey Kong have better animation and more effort than cartoons coming out today.
@@michaelbolcato192 don't forget sealab 2021
@@michaelbolcato192 the marvel cartoons from the 60s even though they lacked on animation they made up for it with a charming personality, A lot of these new cartoons lack a personality or if they do have one it's detestable and irritating
I am looking forward to Hazbin Hotel.
Meanwhile, "Beastars" season 1 was ASTOUNDING and had some of the most advanced animation techniques in existence.
American animation studios want the cheapest product possible, and don't care about things like drawing skill, so as each generation passes, the draftsmanship level gets lower and lower, because students in animation no longer need to train super hard in draftsmanship and solid drawing, its been going in this direction since the 50s, shows like tom and jerry, and even the disney shorts they used to put on tv when my dad was a kid were the PINNACLE of american tv animation in terms of animation and drawing skill
Missing Geekys cute 'hello!' Looking forward for it every time I click on CF
I thought OMG that isn't even ANIME, or Anime like!... AND it looks like it's made for the *Moronic Minded*
Toonami has lost me for good this time... I pine for the days Of *Ghost in the Shell* and *Cowboy Bebop* re-runs
I have gits on home video, both seasons.
@@guadalupev30 Same here, and the 3 movies, plus I even have the New series of *GITS: ARISE* OVA's .... *(-:*
I'm also planning a re-watch of all my *Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex* anime soon.
I recently re-watched all the newer ARISE stuff....
Why cant they just do what they did in the 80s-90s when Warner was looking for new content have people send in there pilots and whomever have has the best reception gets greenlit.
I'm currently watching bakuman and it showed me the hell you had to go through just to get serialised.
This is why - and a lot of people wanna deny this - anime is populating the west more and more. I’m not even big into anime, but amongst the bullshit they be making, they know their audience and it hits. That’s probably why the Castlevania is in anime style; there’s flavor to it and they know it. The animators over there, despite their chicken pea for a salary, put their soul into it. I see more people talking about Hero Academia, Attack On Titan, than any cartoon in the west; even big shows like Young Justice, Clone Wars, and Rick and Morty
Seeing how animation has come, I'm still kinda worrisome on how my project will turn out.
On the one hand, I have some confidence in my work, simply because of how low quality some cartoons appear to be.
But at the same time, I'm worried because of how my project would turn out if it were finished.
Meanwhile, anime remains fresh and kicking despite facing puritans' smearing and lynching at social media. I wonder why?
What's your watch list currently?
Because they ignore them.
@@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881 Not so much lately because stuff happened lately, but let see...
1. Higurashi 2020
2. Bear Bear Bear Kuma
3. Uzaki-chan no Asobou
4. BURN THE WITCH
5. Maybe rewatching the classics such as Higurashi 2006, Grenardier, Koukai no Horizon, Senran Kagura and etc.
Might be waiting for anime adaptation of Kou 1 Desu ga Joshu de Hajimemashita as well as game adaptation of Madan no Ou to Vanadis by Koei-namely Vanadis Musou/Madan Musou.
@@Chingaez nice. Currently im on food wars, uzaki chan, and fist of the North star
BattleSpirits Garret Revolution 👏👍🇲🇨🤩🥰
Someone told the "artists" that a gender studies degree would allowed them to do ANYTHING.
This is why I just watch old South Park and prn.
SyFy suddenly becoming a flashy pop culture YT channel on tv was a bad move.
I'll just stick to anime until death comes for me....
As a boy who grew up on Jonny Quest, Flash Gordon, The Loony Tunes, and later on Batman/Superman(TAS), Gargoyles, DBZ, The Powerpuff Girls, and Cowboy Bebop I can truthfully say that the state of cartoons in 2020 absolutely SUCKS ASS.
I lost interest in Animaniacs when Dot said, "mansplain." I'm hopeful for Genndy, though.
Its more embarrassing because I heard that anime is considered advertisement for their Manga, but they still put more effort into their work. Then what is going on over here.
*Cartoon industry* : "The anime industry is beating us in every front, in every market, we must do something, so we copied it"...
*People* : then why you choose "Twinkle Nora Rock Me" and "Chargeman Ken"?
This is the reason I hate most shows these days. They can have a decent story, but it can't be an eyesore to look at
What hurts is how Cartoon Network treated Infinity Train.
Infinity Train was always intended to be on HBO Max though. It got put on CN temporarily, due to the Time Warner conflict.
I'm excited to hear about Tiny Toons! I was a big fan of it in the 90s growing up.
I hope they bring back some of the Voice Artists that did the original. Here's hoping the series will be fun!
Thanks for your time Clownfish TV.
Elmyra is not returning (Cree Summer confirmed it on Twitter).
@@michaelbolcato192 That's unfortunate.
I hope they can find someone that can play the role as well as her. Elmyra was awesome. Thanks for your time.
Naked Mole Rat Gets Dressed was like a kids book series. The art looks cute enough and accurate to the books, hopefully it’s good. I like the creator so I’m happy she got a series ❤️
The problem is studios once hired animators. Now they hire illustrators and rely on tech and algorithms for the actual "animation". The art is lost and your left with empty motion.
That is exactly it.
Anime has almost completely devoured western animation. and with the rise of things like manwa/korean comics, , and those getting animation adaptations, even china's developing animation industry, American animation is in serious trouble
I can confirm that gemusetto is more like parody and made cheap on purpose to mock anime and from adult swim. That should give you that it isnt serious.
It should be illegal to call stuff this badly "animated" animation
God I'm so concerned about the new Tiny Toons, CUZ ALMOST ALL THEOR JOKES WOULD NEVER FLY TODAY!!!