I’m a white man but I come from a completely different culture in the southern most part of the world, raised on different values. But I don’t count as diverse
@@mrpizzacat8273 That's because the SJWs idea of diversity is anything that isn't White, Straight or Male. They don't understand that just because you share the same skin color as other people doesn't mean that you share the same cultural background.
Progressives don't care about the most important kind of diversity: diversity of ideas. It's all superficial since that plays better into their authoritarian ideology.
@@knowledgeseeker4614 a few others id like to add: The 90s Carmen Sandiego cartoon, Captain Planet, the magic school bus, Recess, and pretty much any action cartoon that had an ensemble cast back then.
Have you seen glitch techs? It has diversity but the story overshadows it so i works so well! The characters are all so much fun and deserves more love. Having diverse characters and body types can work as long as its just a background thing.
At that point, the "diversity" is simply the individuality of the characters, and not shoehorned in just for the sake of it. It's simple really, I don't care what skin tone a character is, nor do I care what their sexuality or weight is. If the character has an interesting story and background, it'll be enjoyable to watch the events that happen to them.
An actress said in a podcast how in her acting class in Hollywood at 21, the teacher wrote brief notes of all the students in case they leave for awhile and then comeback she’ll have something to remember them by. The assistant accidentally sent them to the class and the then 21 year old actress saw the teacher call her funny looking and homely...... fast forward to only 3 years later (today in 2020) and the actress is 24 years old..... fake wokeness really is a business decision lmao. I’m so over it. I’m pretty sure the raunchy comedy in the 2000s would still be prevalent if it wasn’t for the wants of a few people who actually want to see real diversity OR on the negative end, make way for their own careers. Woke industry my ass. I’m so over it lmao
That's because these SJWs don't care about making minority and LGBT characters with flaws. They just care about making perfect minority and LGBT characters, who can make a mistake but not get called out for it.
Anyone miss the Diversity in DOUG? IT doesn't get anymore diverse then Blue, Pink, Purple, Green, Black and White than that classic! Or Pepper Ann for that matter!
Lowell Lucas Jr. Pepper Ann is so underrated mean while articles kept praising star vs which the more seasons it got the more it became a trashy garbage shipping fanfiction show show no wait I take it fanfiction and shippers have handle that show better then the actual creators
Well Doug. What I thought was good that wile it was normal characters. It still had differences in it. As sister was a drug user. Drug's would be girl wasn't the stereotypical snob brioche. That often attractive slim blonde girls do get. A day there is the neighbors.......Well only things I didn't see in the show for diversity. Is a physically disabled person (forever wheelchair bound ) and a non straight character. If there was I don't remember them.
I'm black and my ex was Asian and one of out favorite shows was The Office (US version). We watched it because it was funny not the race of the characters. These people will never get it, no one wants this garbage
Amen. Im white and my favourite power ranger was Zach. I use to pretend to be him all the time. Not once did I think of his race and how he was different than me because of it. Dude had the most fun on the show, and I wanted to be like that.
I'm fat and outside of the power rangers(Favorite crushes Tommy Oliver and Trip(Time Force green ranger) I loved Sailor Moon and thought the girls were gorgeous strong and powerful. I mean all this forced physical diversity is doing is making life for minorities of ANY background harder. Think of people who bully fat people, people of color indians, natives etc now.
Ethan Kellerman Hm, I thought the original series was from japan. So there, all were Japanese. Also the pink one. But all male. (I am not sure if the later episodes were just produced for the western market.)
Diversity DOES NOT mean fat, ugly, self-inserts, less white, nor females. Diversity means a range of differences. Japanese cartoons have been diverse in terms of story, characters, and visuals; despite being homogeneous.
I have a love-hate relationship with animes, but I'm agree there is more diversity in japanese cartoons and nobody cares about it. I guess western medias push too hard this diversity on the spotlight.
Personally, I feel that Asians are pretty hungry for representation. That's why Ghost of Tsushima is so successful in Japan. But then we got a white female-led Arthurian legend with black Arthur and green-faced Asian side characters. Why would anyone do that??? T_T
@@carlacarrero4975 adding onto that, the writer for Soul Eater specifically stated that he added Kilik because he felt black people were underrepresented in anime and Kilik was a really interesting character
My favorite book Artemis Fowl got the Disney treatment and was turned into an awful book to movie adaption. One thing they did was turn this manservant/bodyguard and his sister who are European Asian in the books, have incredible fighting skills, strength, speed, and bravery into a black man servant that says some lines and his sister just says anyone want a sandwich and they don't even fight well. Like...god Asians need representation too and they tore such amazing characters into bumbling trash. And it was WORSE cause they turned the servant roles into black people who serve a white (Irish) family oof.
@@helen8022 That's the problem with Hollywood. They replace well-established Asian characters with other races and start putting Asians in Medieval Europe in the name of diversity.
I’ve been saying this for YEARS. Adding characters for the sake of “diversity” and nothing else shows that they don’t care about representing other ethnicities with fleshed-out, enjoyable characters, and thus end up making token characters whose sole reason for existing is basically nil. I mean, look at Miles Morales. He’s his own character, with his own personality, likes, dislikes, flaws, and can still exist ALONGSIDE the Peter Parker Spider-Man we know, rather than replace him. That’s how diversity in comics and animation SHOULD BE.
Hardly. Miles almost always just devolved into "i dont wanna be known as the black spiderman" yet thats what ends up happening with him. And im sick of pro constantly bringing up that hes biracial when his hispanic only applies when his moms on screen.
I think is better having characters with their own story, Miles can have all personality but he will be always an alternate version of Spider-Man, who is White, like Miguel O Hara (Spider-Man 2099) who is spanic (like me) And its cool but is still an alternate version of other Guy. I think we need ppl like Black Panther, is a character who appeals to One race but he has the enough lore And personality to be something great And other can see it, some Day México will have a real SUPERHERO who can appeal to us with its own things, oh wait....WE HAVE IT, IT WAS CALLED EL TIGRE.
By now people should know that these types who only ever talk about race, who only ever talk about sexuality, who only ever talk about diversity are the least diverse and least inclusive people in humanity. Just make a good story with likable, sympathetic characters. It really is not that fucking hard. Ya Boi Zack has always said SJWs don't human very well and it shows in their one dimensional, one note characters. And can we really call it diversity when every new main character is a lesbian, dark skinned woman with no boobs, a massive ass, square jaw and same hairstyle (short, curly and with the sides shaved) who loves STEM? Would it kill to have variety?
Even normal fat people are sick of the feminists. Well at least I am. all it's done is caused people to bully and think they're helping fat people inspire to lose weight. When it's not doing anything of the sort. Plus some fat people have legitimate medical conditions.
Before I deleted my twitter I remember another black woman in animation who wanted to join an initiative for Women in Animation tweet about being discouraged because they wanted her to pay dues yet offered very little opportunities or advice except for the woman to move to California. But yeah I feel Sara on that so much. It's always progressive white women proclaiming to be diverse and using it as a shield to cover up poor writing and trying to get their friend's jobs. As a result, they hurt real diverse writers because these companies start to equate diversity with a non-white female protagonist who isn't straight and assume any pitch along those lines are bad. As an African American woman currently writing something that is diverse with a strong story, it's extremely frustrating to see the Entertainment industry bend to the will of these talentless white women who threaten to accuse companies of lacking diversity if they aren't given jobs. These people aren't interested in benefitting anybody but themselves. I hope Sara doesn't give up the fight though. More minorities have to speak up about this. We can't let these talentless hacks claim to speak for us while perpetuating poor stereotypes with shallow storytelling get their crappy journalist friends to peddle their work for free.
"anime is kicking American animation's ass" That's was wonderfully said Anime is the most diverse form of entertainment that exists on the planet This "TLAB like show looks nice" I would like to watch a sneak of this
Every time I hear the words: such as Diversity & representation, my brain cells keep on dying and telling me things are going to get worse from these two specific words/sentences.
Diversity has killed creativity. Identity politics are ruing cartoons. A certain type of diversity is good. Japanese anime proves this. Good characters and good stories.
The three most important things about a movie (or any form of theater, really): story, story, and story. Tell a good story, and the audience will cut you a lot of slack on everything else.
I don't get mad when I see a black person playing a role that could have easily been played by another race. What I get mad about is seeing a production meeting in a hype trailer and seeing that Diversity is at the very top of a list that includes things like, "Good story" "Satisfying Ending" and "Epic characters." (here's looking at you High Council) If Diversity is more important than those things, I know everything I need to about the folks writing this - when you have that much woke on your brain, there isn't much room left for anything else. Hard pass.
you know I get hated for my opinion on this but at first I didn't trust the idea of Tim in the live action version of Detective Pikachu Being bi racial and portrayed by a Bi Racial(Justice Smith) but As I watched the movie and really got in to the character I stopped caring that the actor they picked for Tim was bi racial. I just thought hey I really like this portrayal of Tim. Justice, and the writers did a really good job.
Here's the biggest flaw with diversity that most people are missing when crafting a story. They skew the Male to Female ratio, add more than one token Lesbian (gay males tend to be rare I've noticed when making a LGBT+ characters) or have more than one skin tone to fit the quota, but you never see them world build. You never get a true sense of cultural difference. Despite using about 10% of the inner workings of its world, Avatar: TLA did a great job showing not only the difference between the 4 nations but also the differences within the multiple Earth kingdoms or even the North and South water tribes.
@@volcanicred9078 White Feminism refers to mainly white women who start initiatives pretending to be for all women but said initiatives only benefit other white women who promote the same thoughts. It's what has infected comics, gaming, YA, and Scifi/Fantasy books, TV shows, and movies.
@@volcanicred9078 White femenism is pretty dominant in every aspect of the entertainment industry. Other races just dont really speak out. They are a vocal minority ( except twitter )
I took one look at this art and thought “What is this and where can I watch it” Sara if you read this please please PLEASE IM BEGGING YOU DO NOT GIVE UP! Keep pitching this and don’t let this stop you because you have a good idea here you WILL find someone that will help you bring it to life.
STOP. HIRING. TUMBL. “ARTISTS”. TO. CREATE. CARTOONS! This folk are the worst kind of people you can hire because: - They are going to turn the show into their fanfic/therapy session - They are unoriginal and used the now despised “Cal Arts” style - They are terrible people that are going to blackmail/threaten/ guilt trip you sooner or later - They will turn your company into their own little personal/private club - They are the biggest creeps in the entire world (abusers, pedophiles, bullies, narcissist, etc) So yeah, don’t hire this folk, ever... They are going to ruin everything.
And comics need to stop doing so aswell, as well at least Marvel comics higher ups admitted to hiring alot of people from Tumblr and Twitter for what the person is and what they say .. Which looking around do to how they worded it and do to laws in hiring there is a loophole to allow such hiring practices to circumvent standard hiring and hire only specific people . Mainly for the laws haven't been properly updated for the era of the internet with social media as it had gotten years ago
Neat idea. They can look into ArtStation and conceptart.org lol XD The care people put into their portfolios will at least speak better than being on Twitter all the time
The first thing I noticed about Astur’s Rebellion: “Wow, that’s some fantastic art!” The second thing I noticed: “That’s a pretty diverse cast. I wonder if they’re in Medieval Pars, Israel, Egypt, Turkey or Tunisia, those countries were pretty diverse back in the day. That’d be a really cool setting!” I’d love to see a show that has a good story and does diversity correctly. If the creator’s mindset is anything like what she displayed in the posts shown here, I bet she could do it.
Totally agree, it's diverse, but accurate to the setting presented. My assumption is fantasy world, but it seems based on the cultures you mentioned. Similar to the original Aladdin.
The main character looks a lot like Korra but still looks great though. All the character designs looks fantastic as well it's just a shame that shows like this that have a lot of potential gets turned down in favor of hot garbage.
Boilingbl00d well said. There’s no accounting for taste anymore. Which is to say, you look at what gets made and what gets turned down, you look at the person or persons making those decisions and you ask the universe, “How did this person get their job and why the hell do they still have their job?!”
This girl is spitting facts Most shows that are marketed as "diverse" are full of dull stereotypes and forgettable token characters, and are just made to give a gig these progressive men and women, until it flops because of how bad their product is, and leave to parasite another company. Y'all know Kate Leth's career path, right? Cancelled after cancelled comic, and they gave her a show in Crunchyroll. Why? Well because she's an outspoken LGBT Twitter feminist Meanwhile, there are thousands of great shows that happen to have diverse casts, just that they didn't focus on that, and preferred to put the emphasis in the story and the characters. I can bet no one has given a damn about Avatar having an all asian cast. EVER. Everyone remembers it for it's funny moments and action scenes, it's memorable characters and their growth, and the overall story and it's messages. And other good diverse shows are pulled down because their creators don't align with the "correct" political alignment. Y'all know how they tried to "cancel" Hazbin Hotel because years ago the creator made a quick draw of a conservative youtuber she liked? That happens in the industry a lot, just that it happens behind doors and y'all don't learn about it That's how it is today, folks. And if you want to change it, don't try to do it from the inside. Support these projects. Go to this girl's page and follow her, give her your support. Executives only care about sales. And seeing the latest hulu and thundercats news, some are starting to listen...
Yeah, I write stories and personality, desires, needs, flaws, fears are so much higher on the list of important things I want to know about my characters then their sexuality. Call me weird, unless their sexuality is a main core part of the story, it isn't important enough to be put high up my list. Their looks even don't matter as much as their INNER DESIRES AND FLAWS. THOSE things make characters. Of course the Tumblr Generation on the other hand doesn't understand such.
The way I see it a character's sexuality is something that should only be taken into consideration in one of two scenarios: 1: They are/will be in a romantic relationship with another character. 2: Their sexuality affects how other characters treat them If one of these two things do not apply then I don't want a creator to even mention a character's sexuality because it is irrelevant. If fans want to theorize and come to their own conclusions just let them. Don't confirm or deny anything.
@@bluefang62 A creator can leave so many things unknown and out and that is fine. You don't require to know everything. It is funny how that goes, how characters show sides of themselves that you didn't expect during writing. They just do. Little details don't matter... Unless indeed, it is part of the main story line and drives a character.
Static Shock was my favourite show when I was young. I used to watch it whenever I come home from school and always look forward to it. He was basically one of my favourite heroes when I was small.
While I admire her intention of creating more original show and her pitch bible has potential, the character design for the most part looks pretty amateurish like deviant anime fan art. They all look like generic anime design with very stiff pose. They could be Avatar/Legend of Korra OC and it wouldn't make a difference. But if I have pick between her design and High Guardian Spice, I'd probably pick Momobami's instead.
True Diversity:There are a lot of empty square shapes that need to be filled with squares HR/Hollywood Diversity: There are a lot of empty square shapes.... let's hire more circles.
Futurama had a great diverse cast, and we weren't even aware of it and we all loved it. It was never mentioned to pat themselves in the back, it just happened organically and that was back in 1999
Sailor Moon was a huge hit and it had several lgbt characters. Klaus was an amazing film and it is the first time they showed representation of one of Europe’s indigenous tribes.
There is Kipo and the age of wonderbeasts nobody from the main characters are white all of them are black, but I really dont noticed it. The main character Kipo is a blackasian girl, but they dont advertised her as some sensational groundbreaking perfect thing you automaticly need to like or worship, otherwise you are a sick "phobe". Because its dont pushing diversity agenda, virtue signalling or any SJW stuff, its just wants to tell an interesting story. Really guys you need to watch Kipo and the age of wonderbeasts, its a good example how to make a person of color or diversity characters right.
Funny thing is, Hasbro helped build a cross-generational, iconic franchise off a bunch of Diaclone toys they got from Japan (Transformers). Because kids were invested in the characters and stories, Transformers became way more than a toy Commercial. Kids were genuinely upset seeing Optimus Prime die in theaters, sparking his Resurrection arc.
The girls are cute, they have a nice shape, they look strong, but not _stronk,_ they show skin, and there's a prominent nice firm breast on screen. So thumbs up for the females. I see males, but I hope there's more of them.
Sad news everyone: The Serfs is currently trying to bring back Netflix's She-Ra with a fundraiser. Excuse me... *Brings out the bottles of alcohol and bleach*
@@blairmiller9489 They can't? Oh! Though the charity is meant to "help trans people". And the reason why I used the quotes is because I don't trust The Serfs with the charity because they are woke middle-class white people supporting BLM.
keep in mind these are also the same people that say "white people cant write black characters" in comics, but in animation we have a bunch of white women writing Asian, Black and Latino characters yet they don't get the same treatment
I so hate it when people say shit like that. Do they not realise that they are basically saying black people are not humans? That Asian people are not humans? They dont have the same feelings as white people. They don't love like a white person. They don't hate like a white person. Etc. Somehow black/asian people are different? People are people! Human are humans! The skin colour doesn't make their feelings any different to anyone else. Or feelings someone could empathise with or have felt themselves. Why doesn't anyone call out this racism!! It's so frustrating how they continuously say shit like this and not be called out of how dehumanising they are towards black people and asians! And people who believe in individuality are called racists because we don't put people in boxes.
Exactly. These days, not even poor Sonic and Tails are immune to speculation about their friendship being more than just an innocent bond between two people who happen to both be male. To make matters worse, Tails is only 8 years old and Sonic is in his mid teens!
Blobby :3 There were articles that came out after the release of the movie saying that Sonic and Tails are totally gay for each other. Keep in mind Tails is 8 and Sonic is 15...
The issue is you cant have "organic" diversity if you think about diversity at all. If you view the world by putting people in boxes of race,gender, orientation, etc... you can't break away from that mentality to make things about the individual. The individual makes the story. I have no problem with my gay friends, but I turn off any show on Netflix that goes gay for no reason. Yet I have no problem with Anime shows that have the dapper gay bartenders like Food wars etc... with Anime you can just figure out they are gay without you most definitely being shown for sure they are. Often time its adding unneeded level of detail to side characters that you never see again because "virtue signal points."
"Even in literature and art, no man who bothers about originality will ever be original: whereas if you simply try to tell the truth (without caring twopence how often it has been told before) you will, nine times out of ten, become original without ever having noticed it." -- C. S. Lewis, Mere Christianity
I think one of the cause for that is because many shows that usually features POC and LGBT, they tend to be so woke, ignoring the fact that both of them can have differing opinion that can be considered not woke. As a result, many people expect the show that features them to be very woke and a political piece.
There's an anime that tried to go the "no merchandising" route. It was called Fafner. The producers even proudly said that it was impossible to make a model kit out of the mecha. While it didn't fail and was a cult hit, it took nearly a decade before a sequel could be made precisely because it didn't rely on toy sales. Some even joked that they had to rely on pachinko machines to earn enough funds. Nowadays they learned their lesson, and technology has finally caught up to make a working model of the title mecha.
Funny how Japan is way more diverse in their anime, manga, and games compared to the West. And they do it legit and in a genuine way. From a country that is less diverse than over here, who tends to force stuff and put it before the quality of characters and stories.
"And they do it legit and in a genuine way" Ha! No. Anime makes fun of anyone not straight and male. Naruto, One Piece, My Hero Academia, Fairy Tail. In all of those shows, they negatively represent a woman (In MHA all the women, coincidentally dress like strippers or are literally naked), gays (One Piece)
@@andrew10022 Given they do the representation and don't bring light to it because of virtue signaling and wokeness, yes they do. And they treat them like normal characters. The West panders and does it for woke points. They use the representation angle as a personality trait when it is not.
A major good example are Sailor Uranus and Sailor Neptune. Yuri On Ice is a good example. Tokyo Godfathers is a good example. Revolutionary Girl Utena is a good example. Sakura's brother in Cardcaptor Sakura is a good example. Leeron from Gurren Lagann is a pretty good example. Jakotsu from Inuyasha is a decent example. Elements of it are found in Ouran High School Host Club. Among others.
@@andrew10022 God I hate people abusing "literally". Where in MHA are there any women shown literally naked? Gimme a break. I hope you aren't referring to Hagakure, because if so that's silly lol
I agree. It allows for you to dismiss depth to characters because you made their appeal their sexuality, gender, or ethnicity. This is happening a lot with modern comics.
Tumblr was like a zit that popped in the late 2000s, and all the chunky tumblrites spilled right out into Twitter, which is why it's now a toxic waste dump lol
The point of using diversity as a selling point is using it as an argumentative trap when criticized. We already knew that but pretending you don’t wastes breath and bandwidth.
The whole diversity thing is why I try to dissociate my nationality from my own projects. "Author" sounds less shameful than "Mexican author" because the later feels like people will care about you only for being Mexican and not for the value of your work. To add insult to injury, High Guardian Spice is the reason I sail the seven seas for anime. Producers don't get paid, but Crunchyroll is finding their own vanity. High Guardian Spice and new offices to be precise. I'm certain their release of anime based on Korean Webtoons IPs might be related to licensing issues in Japan.
See Sara’s art is appealing, I have zero clue what’s with this push in western animation to make ugly characters, and an ugly world due to the “style” of the show. Like for all faults I give to Steven Universe, I can say that it had a decent artistic style. For all the shit I rightfully give to Korra, the characters look good, and the animation is great. I give Southpark a pass because the world’s meant to look like shit, because the whole thing is one big joke, but there’s no humor in the poor design of most of these characters, just a poor stylistic choice.
You see lots of shows like whatever the hell that other show was in that post...Wild Life? as a case of 'style' being an excuse for a lack of skill. Lots of these newer show runners and 'talents' are essentially fresh off the boat to this field but are getting these projects right away with no idea what they are doing, so things being ugly by design alleviates the pressure. Another part of that might stem from what seems to be the new norm, set by Rebecca Sugar with Steven Universe's production, which is that being on model is of low importance- AMAs have explained their standard was "if you can tell who the character is, then it's on model enough"- audiences tended to disagree though as I've yet to see any critique of the show, even the most favorable ones, defend the inconsistent visuals from episode to episode- seemingly only the crew would look at Garnet being as tall as Steven for a scene or Steven and Connie suddenly having the proportions of Nendoroids for an episode and say "good enough". On the other side of that issue, you also see a lot of projects trying to essentially copy how Steven Universe looked, with everything being round and simple with bright colors everywhere, because that show was a success and people will look toward things that resemble something they are already familiar with and liked. Even Sara's concept is guilty of this because you'd be hard pressed to deny Last Airbender influence in it- it's not wrong or bad in of itself though. The other reason is because it's so streamlined- it's easy to draw and thus cheaper to make. Similar rationale is how 'manga' styles evolved- designs are very simple with only basic strokes to fill in some detail to facilitate needing to get 15-20 pages drawn, inked, and screentoned every week. The more intricate and detailed series are on monthly serials most of the time; and then there's Kaoru Mori, she's a beast of her own and there's a very obvious reason Young Bride's Story runs in a magazine that prints once every two months.
The one Noelle likes looks awful, with the Sara Momobami's actually looks interesting. How much you wanna bet Abelle worked on shera and this is just nepotism of the privileged, upper-class Californians helping each other and only each other.
I'm Latina, i only mostly care about characters and story, if there are characters with different skin colors and ethnicitiy, fantastic, but it shouldn't be the main thing about the characters. Man, good thing i can draw Anime stuff lol.
Anybodh remember Denise Young Smith? Apple's vice-president of diversity who said "...you can have a room full of white men and be diverse" and was fired for wrongthink? Ironic that She-Ra' and High Guardian Spice's writer's rooms are full of white women yet no one was batting an eye.
One of the reason why I loathe modern TV programming is because so much of it is based off of having diversity and so much of the Draw of the show is pushed towards diversity and not an actual good story
This is one of my issues with what became of Steven universe: it became “look! Gay! Woman! Ooooo man look at all these skin colors! Look at these non-straight characters!” And that isn’t fun. It’s just not. I don’t care if a character is gay or not, I don’t care if they’re white or not. I don’t care if they’re women or not. It’s about good characters. Good story. Not what group representation you check the box of.
No offense, but I absolutely hate the term “people of color” or “PoC”. I find it to be highly offensive and borderline segregational. That, and by skin color. I would like for people to just be called by name, or if you must, their ethnicity.
Its practically dismissive. Like saying, well if we HAVE to acknowledge your kind and existence at all then we'll use this quick, barely there discription. And the sham being that most times they're only talking about blacks. The rest of us just get tossed in as honorary abbreviations. ...charmed. Just say minority or ethnic, we got that memo decades ago and it does fit.
Okay, time to chime in since I was pleasantly surprised to see I had worked with the artist making the character designs of the anime-like action show being pitched. You don't need to pitch to suits if you can hire the artists yourselves. If you keep the scale of the project small, it is possible to produce an animation yourself. Certainly not four seasons of course, but the technology and skill is out there for a single animator to produce one episode -- I've seen it happen in the hentai community. ONE animator, using nothing but Toon Boom Studio/Harmony or After Effects, making 20 minutes of content. That is affordable for a writer to hire that animator instead of spending the money on lattes or San Francisco apartment rent (just move back in with parents, it's the trendy thing to do nowadays lol). And that animator would appreciate the work and creative freedom rather than being treated like a sweatshop employee. More artists working on a project would of course make the work go faster if the writer can afford it. And if the writer cannot afford making an animation, why not make a walking simulator game instead, a game is cheaper to produce per minute of runtime. Still out of budget? How about a comic / manga or webtoon, you only need to pair up with one artist. Or if there are still budgetary constraints, just make a visual novel instead, that gets the most run time per art piece produced. And if all else fails, start with a light novel, that's how most blockbuster stories in anime started out as. The gist of it is, no need to pitch to gatekeepers, anyone has the means to publish their own content right now, and let the market dictate the success.
How to identify a Social Justice Writer: • Usually a group of white women, with a diverse hair color. • Presents themselves as the first minority to write. Discrediting all the great minority writers before them. • Values diversity over great stories that could inspire viewers to realize what they are capable of. • Don't get confused with how many times they talk about diversity because the main character in these types of shows are usually white women. • they think that diversity only mean women and lesbians.
i'm sick to death of the phrase "diversity and inclusion" I don't want to see degenerate alphabet people in the shows that I'm trying to watch or the games I'm trying to play.
Exactly as a gay man I hate two dimensional characters who only exist to push an agenda Diversity can be part of a great show but only if its used well such as being essential to the world building such as Avatar the last Airbender or legend of Zelda or dozens of great role-playing games
This makes me nervous as a young creator. Seeing all of this makes me wonder if I should even bother going into the entertainment industry since this happen. I have no other skills other than my love for story telling....
As long as there's a story with a beginning, middle and end. That's all that matters. Especially endings, there has been so many stories destroyed by terribly crafted, empty endings.
Hone your skills as a storyteller, and keep your eyes on the independent route, the "professional" comic companies are dying, animation is harder to do independently but it's becoming more and more possible. And, as Kneon points out, look for merchandising opportunities, remember that George Lucas made a mint from Star Wars toy sales back in the day.
Being a creator has always been hard for so many reasons, there's always gonna be something dumb about the industry so don't let it get to you too much.
A show needs to be made out of love. There needs to be love for its characters, story, and the world within. Making a show out of spite will never go well. If your motivation is tied to petty emotional issues, it won't reflect well when you write (or pitch) the show.
THIS! This is the word that I've been looking for: "Advertised Diversity & Inclusion". It's truly the core issue of the modern entertainment media decline which also spawned the malicious creatures known as SJW. No wonder why they were so keen on barking things about inclusions, diversity, and so on, because the media encourages it! They had been undermining the true diversity with their finest capitalistic agenda packed in the name of "diversity". Truly deplorable. It's also sad that potentially great projects nearly got cancelled because there are people who want to control the meaning of diversity with their own views. Still, I hope those projects could still move forward with compelling stories above all else, including Astur's Rebellion.
It depends on how they handle it. Here in Europe we actually have a bunch of cartoons, comics, children books and films featuring people of color or gingers in the lead role or in a prominent role, such as Pippi Longstocking, W.I.T.C.H., Yakari, Ythaq, Alone, Wakfu, The Mysterious Cities of Gold, Kirikou et la Sorcière, Lilly the Witch, etc. But here we just do not make a big deal out of it. We just create art and see if people like it.
ya know you have a point. When avatar TLA came out and through out its whole run I never heard the term diversity come up. People always said "wow these are good characters" or "wow this is a good story" their race or gender never was never a talking point people just liked the show. Creators and companies dont get that people get annoyed when you put a big neon sign screaming "hey we are diverse" just let the product speak for itself and be organic.
Back in the 90's, i like watching shows like All That and Kenan & Kel, not because of how diverse racially the casts is but because it's just entertaining to watch.
Hey, there are some Korra fans that like both avatar series! The underlying themes present in both series are consistent and deeply important - spirituality and the balance of energy within ones self. Korra may not be Aang but there isn't anything wrong with that. If you look passed the boxes certain groups try to identify the characters as, you can like both characters and enjoy their respective adventures. The 'image' of Korra sadly has been twisted by certain ideologies that try to portray her as something unrepresentative of herself which unfortunately sours viewers perception of Korra and how cool of a character she is. I like Korra and found value in her journey through the course of her story in the series. Her struggles and lessons learned helped inspire me and probably a lot of other people. Much like Zuko, the journey Korra has to travel helps mellow and open her outlook on existence and how she can utilise the power she has been granted to help others. While I enjoyed Zuko's journey more, I did love how Korra had to face her self-centered self and come to terms with her ego. Korra had to learn who she was and what the Avatar meant to her not what the world expected and criticized her for which is contextualized by the decisions she had to make regarding the spirit world.
Akairenn yes I love both avatar and korra and while I admit that korra has flaws I still think that it’s a fun show and compare to most sequels korra is actually one of the decent ones and aang and korra are my favs
I stopped watching Dragon Prince when a general couldn't speak (command her troops), and her colleagues couldn't understand her sign language. That's so unbelievable I couldn't continue.
There is a reason why I watched older anime and cartoons. The diversity is more holistic and about a story. Knights of the Zodiac would never be green light in this day and time because of the SJW which is a shame.
The "THEIR LOGO WAS A DAMN RAINBOW" made me snicker like a super villain. Make of that what you will. Also, Astur's Rebellion look like something I might have wanted to watch.
@20:14 -- Deqa absolutely reminds me of a character from 80s animation. Specifically, Diana on DUNGEONS & DRAGONS. (Funnily enough, Toei Animation did the animation for that show, so there's the anime influence too)
Diversity can be important, but shows need story and plot elements are still important. Without out those elements, it will end up hurting the the characters your establish as well as show itself. Static Shock, Justice League, and many shows from the DCAU/Timmverse were able to utilize both.
Diversity is more than just skin color and gender. There’s diversity of opinion, beliefs, traditions, ideas, or ideals.
Except SJWs/Democrats/liberals can't see that. Story comes before anything else.
I’m a white man but I come from a completely different culture in the southern most part of the world, raised on different values. But I don’t count as diverse
@@mrpizzacat8273 That's because the SJWs idea of diversity is anything that isn't White, Straight or Male. They don't understand that just because you share the same skin color as other people doesn't mean that you share the same cultural background.
Progressives don't care about the most important kind of diversity: diversity of ideas. It's all superficial since that plays better into their authoritarian ideology.
Even the ideas aside, how is an all black cast more 'diverse'?
Cartoons: How am I going down in flames? I’m prioritizing diversity over story!
Anime: That’s why, fool
Cartoons: How am I going down in flames? Our main character is a gender transcended mermaid queenking!!!
Shyhalu 🤣
'I pity the fool who doesn't care that he's on fire! I do! I pity the fool!' - Guido Mista T
Me (Emerald the witch): Nobunaga Tenma burning soul stan BS aka Yukimura coach 👍👍👍👍👍👍
@Edward Tay Korea China Japan the big trio Anime join together as one
Gargoyles was doing diversity back in 1994, as was XMen, and many other cartoons.
Started rewatching that on Disney. Loved it when it first aired.
@@Thhumper it's a classic 😁
Spider-Man and Static Shock come to mind as well.
I love Gargoyles 😍 Eliza Maza and Xanatos are the best!
@@knowledgeseeker4614 a few others id like to add: The 90s Carmen Sandiego cartoon, Captain Planet, the magic school bus, Recess, and pretty much any action cartoon that had an ensemble cast back then.
Have you seen glitch techs? It has diversity but the story overshadows it so i works so well! The characters are all so much fun and deserves more love.
Having diverse characters and body types can work as long as its just a background thing.
At that point, the "diversity" is simply the individuality of the characters, and not shoehorned in just for the sake of it. It's simple really, I don't care what skin tone a character is, nor do I care what their sexuality or weight is. If the character has an interesting story and background, it'll be enjoyable to watch the events that happen to them.
I love glitch techs and you’re right I never noticed how diverse the characters are
I haven't, I wnat to though. Is it any good?
Glitch techs is awesome! I love it.
Glitch Techs is so far, so good!! I hope they don’t get all preachy with their diversity, just keep making a simple, good show!
"Wait, all this buzz about diversity in entertainment is FAKE?!"
"Always has been."
*Holds up hands* It was Extraterrestrial Ohioans.
I get that reference. Lol
An actress said in a podcast how in her acting class in Hollywood at 21, the teacher wrote brief notes of all the students in case they leave for awhile and then comeback she’ll have something to remember them by. The assistant accidentally sent them to the class and the then 21 year old actress saw the teacher call her funny looking and homely...... fast forward to only 3 years later (today in 2020) and the actress is 24 years old..... fake wokeness really is a business decision lmao. I’m so over it. I’m pretty sure the raunchy comedy in the 2000s would still be prevalent if it wasn’t for the wants of a few people who actually want to see real diversity OR on the negative end, make way for their own careers. Woke industry my ass.
I’m so over it lmao
Saw it on meme review. I can only read it in Pewdiepie's voice.
when-they-say-'diversity'-if-you-hear-'perversity'-then-you-are-on-target!
Diversity: no white heterosexual men, but white women who are either lesbian or feminist promoting that fact to the world are accepted.
women with big boobs are no good but men with boobs are cool
What? They better hire a gay parrot or they're bigots!!!
They completely forgot studios like Clamp
@@rps215 Not a fan of Clamp, but I get what ya mean.
Who are also fat
There's diversity in Craig of the creek, Hey Arnold and Bravestarr and no one says anything. They were just good shows!
That's because these SJWs don't care about making minority and LGBT characters with flaws. They just care about making perfect minority and LGBT characters, who can make a mistake but not get called out for it.
cuz lesbians can't sit in their rooms writing self-insert clopfics about craig.
80`s and 90`s cartoons were pretty much diverse without the pandering. Heck GI Joe was pretty much every nationality and all the characters were cool.
If it doesn't follow their ideology, it's going to get swept under the rug.
@@dredgewalker all the soldiers and one wrestler.
Anyone miss the Diversity in DOUG? IT doesn't get anymore diverse then Blue, Pink, Purple, Green, Black and White than that classic! Or Pepper Ann for that matter!
Lowell Lucas Jr. Pepper Ann is so underrated mean while articles kept praising star vs which the more seasons it got the more it became a trashy garbage shipping fanfiction show show no wait I take it fanfiction and shippers have handle that show better then the actual creators
Well Doug. What I thought was good that wile it was normal characters. It still had differences in it. As sister was a drug user. Drug's would be girl wasn't the stereotypical snob brioche. That often attractive slim blonde girls do get. A day there is the neighbors.......Well only things I didn't see in the show for diversity. Is a physically disabled person (forever wheelchair bound ) and a non straight character. If there was I don't remember them.
I love your avatar it reminds me of grim lock from transformers four age of extinction
I'm black and my ex was Asian and one of out favorite shows was The Office (US version). We watched it because it was funny not the race of the characters. These people will never get it, no one wants this garbage
Amen. Im white and my favourite power ranger was Zach. I use to pretend to be him all the time. Not once did I think of his race and how he was different than me because of it. Dude had the most fun on the show, and I wanted to be like that.
I'm fat and outside of the power rangers(Favorite crushes Tommy Oliver and Trip(Time Force green ranger) I loved Sailor Moon and thought the girls were gorgeous strong and powerful. I mean all this forced physical diversity is doing is making life for minorities of ANY background harder. Think of people who bully fat people, people of color indians, natives etc now.
Ethan Kellerman Hm, I thought the original series was from japan. So there, all were Japanese. Also the pink one. But all male. (I am not sure if the later episodes were just produced for the western market.)
Diversity DOES NOT mean fat, ugly, self-inserts, less white, nor females. Diversity means a range of differences. Japanese cartoons have been diverse in terms of story, characters, and visuals; despite being homogeneous.
This!
Diversity isn't even necessarily a good thing. All these European countries that SJWs point to to show that socialist systems work are 90%+ white.
@@Shyhalu And the majority were way better before...
They even have a Nigerian/Yoruba rep in Fire Force
@@Shyhalu ...what?
I've seen more diversity in anime than western cartoons.
Facts
The Write In President Dafuq Dude.
Western animation talking about how they represent LGBTQ: 😇
Anime who did it decades earlier and were censored by Westerners: 😑
I have a love-hate relationship with animes, but I'm agree there is more diversity in japanese cartoons and nobody cares about it. I guess western medias push too hard this diversity on the spotlight.
Same
Personally, I feel that Asians are pretty hungry for representation. That's why Ghost of Tsushima is so successful in Japan. But then we got a white female-led Arthurian legend with black Arthur and green-faced Asian side characters. Why would anyone do that??? T_T
Yuka Slayer japan actually does care about representation it’s just that their not as annoying about it as in America
Cuz Ghost Of Tsushima has identity, making a Black King Arthur only show SJW don't have creativity.
@@carlacarrero4975 adding onto that, the writer for Soul Eater specifically stated that he added Kilik because he felt black people were underrepresented in anime and Kilik was a really interesting character
My favorite book Artemis Fowl got the Disney treatment and was turned into an awful book to movie adaption. One thing they did was turn this manservant/bodyguard and his sister who are European Asian in the books, have incredible fighting skills, strength, speed, and bravery into a black man servant that says some lines and his sister just says anyone want a sandwich and they don't even fight well. Like...god Asians need representation too and they tore such amazing characters into bumbling trash. And it was WORSE cause they turned the servant roles into black people who serve a white (Irish) family oof.
@@helen8022 That's the problem with Hollywood. They replace well-established Asian characters with other races and start putting Asians in Medieval Europe in the name of diversity.
I’ve been saying this for YEARS. Adding characters for the sake of “diversity” and nothing else shows that they don’t care about representing other ethnicities with fleshed-out, enjoyable characters, and thus end up making token characters whose sole reason for existing is basically nil.
I mean, look at Miles Morales. He’s his own character, with his own personality, likes, dislikes, flaws, and can still exist ALONGSIDE the Peter Parker Spider-Man we know, rather than replace him. That’s how diversity in comics and animation SHOULD BE.
Hardly. Miles almost always just devolved into "i dont wanna be known as the black spiderman" yet thats what ends up happening with him. And im sick of pro constantly bringing up that hes biracial when his hispanic only applies when his moms on screen.
I think is better having characters with their own story, Miles can have all personality but he will be always an alternate version of Spider-Man, who is White, like Miguel O Hara (Spider-Man 2099) who is spanic (like me) And its cool but is still an alternate version of other Guy.
I think we need ppl like Black Panther, is a character who appeals to One race but he has the enough lore And personality to be something great And other can see it, some Day México will have a real SUPERHERO who can appeal to us with its own things, oh wait....WE HAVE IT, IT WAS CALLED EL TIGRE.
By now people should know that these types who only ever talk about race, who only ever talk about sexuality, who only ever talk about diversity are the least diverse and least inclusive people in humanity.
Just make a good story with likable, sympathetic characters. It really is not that fucking hard. Ya Boi Zack has always said SJWs don't human very well and it shows in their one dimensional, one note characters. And can we really call it diversity when every new main character is a lesbian, dark skinned woman with no boobs, a massive ass, square jaw and same hairstyle (short, curly and with the sides shaved) who loves STEM? Would it kill to have variety?
How DARES she draw such gorgeous characters!? Doesn't she knows that ugliness and obesity are inclusive!?
Even normal fat people are sick of the feminists. Well at least I am. all it's done is caused people to bully and think they're helping fat people inspire to lose weight. When it's not doing anything of the sort. Plus some fat people have legitimate medical conditions.
Before I deleted my twitter I remember another black woman in animation who wanted to join an initiative for Women in Animation tweet about being discouraged because they wanted her to pay dues yet offered very little opportunities or advice except for the woman to move to California.
But yeah I feel Sara on that so much. It's always progressive white women proclaiming to be diverse and using it as a shield to cover up poor writing and trying to get their friend's jobs. As a result, they hurt real diverse writers because these companies start to equate diversity with a non-white female protagonist who isn't straight and assume any pitch along those lines are bad.
As an African American woman currently writing something that is diverse with a strong story, it's extremely frustrating to see the Entertainment industry bend to the will of these talentless white women who threaten to accuse companies of lacking diversity if they aren't given jobs. These people aren't interested in benefitting anybody but themselves.
I hope Sara doesn't give up the fight though. More minorities have to speak up about this. We can't let these talentless hacks claim to speak for us while perpetuating poor stereotypes with shallow storytelling get their crappy journalist friends to peddle their work for free.
Of course it would be cali
Forced diversity isnt actual diversity.
Actual diversity comes with time and a wearing of steriotypes with generational perseption changes.
Well said
"anime is kicking American animation's ass"
That's was wonderfully said
Anime is the most diverse form of entertainment that exists on the planet
This "TLAB like show looks nice" I would like to watch a sneak of this
Every time I hear the words: such as Diversity & representation, my brain cells keep on dying and telling me things are going to get worse from these two specific words/sentences.
Diversity has killed creativity. Identity politics are ruing cartoons. A certain type of diversity is good. Japanese anime proves this. Good characters and good stories.
“Just do a good story!” Words to live by.
The three most important things about a movie (or any form of theater, really): story, story, and story. Tell a good story, and the audience will cut you a lot of slack on everything else.
I don't get mad when I see a black person playing a role that could have easily been played by another race. What I get mad about is seeing a production meeting in a hype trailer and seeing that Diversity is at the very top of a list that includes things like, "Good story" "Satisfying Ending" and "Epic characters." (here's looking at you High Council) If Diversity is more important than those things, I know everything I need to about the folks writing this - when you have that much woke on your brain, there isn't much room left for anything else. Hard pass.
you know I get hated for my opinion on this but at first I didn't trust the idea of Tim in the live action version of Detective Pikachu Being bi racial and portrayed by a Bi Racial(Justice Smith) but As I watched the movie and really got in to the character I stopped caring that the actor they picked for Tim was bi racial. I just thought hey I really like this portrayal of Tim. Justice, and the writers did a really good job.
Here's the biggest flaw with diversity that most people are missing when crafting a story. They skew the Male to Female ratio, add more than one token Lesbian (gay males tend to be rare I've noticed when making a LGBT+ characters) or have more than one skin tone to fit the quota, but you never see them world build. You never get a true sense of cultural difference. Despite using about 10% of the inner workings of its world, Avatar: TLA did a great job showing not only the difference between the 4 nations but also the differences within the multiple Earth kingdoms or even the North and South water tribes.
Alot of women are tired of white feminism in animation
what is white feminism? how is it any different from black, hispanic, or arabic feminism? because they run the industry?
@@volcanicred9078 White Feminism refers to mainly white women who start initiatives pretending to be for all women but said initiatives only benefit other white women who promote the same thoughts. It's what has infected comics, gaming, YA, and Scifi/Fantasy books, TV shows, and movies.
@@mephistopheles4910 it's more than white women though. it's more of a mindset from what i've seen.
@@volcanicred9078 White femenism is pretty dominant in every aspect of the entertainment industry. Other races just dont really speak out. They are a vocal minority ( except twitter )
You kinda sound racist
I took one look at this art and thought “What is this and where can I watch it”
Sara if you read this please please PLEASE IM BEGGING YOU DO NOT GIVE UP! Keep pitching this and don’t let this stop you because you have a good idea here you WILL find someone that will help you bring it to life.
Let this word be spread and hoping the creator keep moving forward and being successful. (Sorry for horrible English)
I’m happy to find out you heard me. Good luck moving forward, I know it’ll be hard but you can do it. 👍
She did hear use 👍
STOP. HIRING. TUMBL. “ARTISTS”. TO. CREATE. CARTOONS!
This folk are the worst kind of people you can hire because:
- They are going to turn the show into their fanfic/therapy session
- They are unoriginal and used the now despised “Cal Arts” style
- They are terrible people that are going to blackmail/threaten/ guilt trip you sooner or later
- They will turn your company into their own little personal/private club
- They are the biggest creeps in the entire world (abusers, pedophiles, bullies, narcissist, etc)
So yeah, don’t hire this folk, ever... They are going to ruin everything.
And comics need to stop doing so aswell, as well at least Marvel comics higher ups admitted to hiring alot of people from Tumblr and Twitter for what the person is and what they say .. Which looking around do to how they worded it and do to laws in hiring there is a loophole to allow such hiring practices to circumvent standard hiring and hire only specific people . Mainly for the laws haven't been properly updated for the era of the internet with social media as it had gotten years ago
truth
They all use cal arts because its all these talentless fucks can draw.
Neat idea. They can look into ArtStation and conceptart.org lol XD The care people put into their portfolios will at least speak better than being on Twitter all the time
You can’t not hire them. They control the hiring process.
The first thing I noticed about Astur’s Rebellion: “Wow, that’s some fantastic art!”
The second thing I noticed: “That’s a pretty diverse cast. I wonder if they’re in Medieval Pars, Israel, Egypt, Turkey or Tunisia, those countries were pretty diverse back in the day. That’d be a really cool setting!”
I’d love to see a show that has a good story and does diversity correctly. If the creator’s mindset is anything like what she displayed in the posts shown here, I bet she could do it.
Same here. I would definitely at least give it 3 episodes.
Totally agree, it's diverse, but accurate to the setting presented. My assumption is fantasy world, but it seems based on the cultures you mentioned. Similar to the original Aladdin.
The main character looks a lot like Korra but still looks great though. All the character designs looks fantastic as well it's just a shame that shows like this that have a lot of potential gets turned down in favor of hot garbage.
Boilingbl00d well said. There’s no accounting for taste anymore. Which is to say, you look at what gets made and what gets turned down, you look at the person or persons making those decisions and you ask the universe,
“How did this person get their job and why the hell do they still have their job?!”
And I'm just here, nice art looks cool
This girl is spitting facts
Most shows that are marketed as "diverse" are full of dull stereotypes and forgettable token characters, and are just made to give a gig these progressive men and women, until it flops because of how bad their product is, and leave to parasite another company. Y'all know Kate Leth's career path, right? Cancelled after cancelled comic, and they gave her a show in Crunchyroll. Why? Well because she's an outspoken LGBT Twitter feminist
Meanwhile, there are thousands of great shows that happen to have diverse casts, just that they didn't focus on that, and preferred to put the emphasis in the story and the characters.
I can bet no one has given a damn about Avatar having an all asian cast. EVER. Everyone remembers it for it's funny moments and action scenes, it's memorable characters and their growth, and the overall story and it's messages.
And other good diverse shows are pulled down because their creators don't align with the "correct" political alignment. Y'all know how they tried to "cancel" Hazbin Hotel because years ago the creator made a quick draw of a conservative youtuber she liked? That happens in the industry a lot, just that it happens behind doors and y'all don't learn about it
That's how it is today, folks. And if you want to change it, don't try to do it from the inside. Support these projects. Go to this girl's page and follow her, give her your support.
Executives only care about sales. And seeing the latest hulu and thundercats news, some are starting to listen...
When the SJW feminists talk about diversity they’re talking about their hair colors.
Damn, Dragon Ball is more diverse than I thought.
Just from the Astur's Rebellion cover, I want to give this a chance.
I just hope it doesn't have an art style akin to Gen Lock and the like.
You mean the fact that all these art styles look the same
Yep.
looks the same *_and_* like shit
Yes y is that? Always that weird circular mouth
It’s easy and therefore fast/cheap.
What do you think of the mine?: www.deviantart.com/temus/art/angelique-only-angelique-789757139
Yeah, I write stories and personality, desires, needs, flaws, fears are so much higher on the list of important things I want to know about my characters then their sexuality.
Call me weird, unless their sexuality is a main core part of the story, it isn't important enough to be put high up my list.
Their looks even don't matter as much as their INNER DESIRES AND FLAWS. THOSE things make characters.
Of course the Tumblr Generation on the other hand doesn't understand such.
The way I see it a character's sexuality is something that should only be taken into consideration in one of two scenarios:
1: They are/will be in a romantic relationship with another character.
2: Their sexuality affects how other characters treat them
If one of these two things do not apply then I don't want a creator to even mention a character's sexuality because it is irrelevant. If fans want to theorize and come to their own conclusions just let them. Don't confirm or deny anything.
@@bluefang62 A creator can leave so many things unknown and out and that is fine. You don't require to know everything. It is funny how that goes, how characters show sides of themselves that you didn't expect during writing. They just do.
Little details don't matter...
Unless indeed, it is part of the main story line and drives a character.
Hey that's what I do!!! :) this makes me smile, when ever I create a character in any game I go through the list you said exactly in that order ^-^
Western entertainment is just a disappointment.
It's trash now.
Even videogames are pushing this nonsense.
It's either straight white man bad, Orange Man Bad, Christian Man Bad...
@@PrestonCormack yep. This is what happens when you let activist in our culture.
Jaylen Harris you mispelled “dead”
@@PrestonCormack it's not "straight white man bad" it's "straight white man overused"
Convert to anime
Static Shock was my favourite show when I was young. I used to watch it whenever I come home from school and always look forward to it. He was basically one of my favourite heroes when I was small.
Momobami's characters look way more lovingly designed, the gal in the middle is gorgeous.
Exactly! Everything about her design exudes charisma, a healthy dose of sex appeal, and classic anime heroine badassery!
What do you think of my oc?: www.deviantart.com/temus/art/angelique-only-angelique-789757139
While I admire her intention of creating more original show and her pitch bible has potential, the character design for the most part looks pretty amateurish like deviant anime fan art. They all look like generic anime design with very stiff pose. They could be Avatar/Legend of Korra OC and it wouldn't make a difference.
But if I have pick between her design and High Guardian Spice, I'd probably pick Momobami's instead.
@@zanir2387 I think it's an excellent start. I'd work on her wings and costume design to give her a strong silhouette.
True Diversity:There are a lot of empty square shapes that need to be filled with squares
HR/Hollywood Diversity: There are a lot of empty square shapes.... let's hire more circles.
Futurama had a great diverse cast, and we weren't even aware of it and we all loved it. It was never mentioned to pat themselves in the back, it just happened organically and that was back in 1999
Sailor Moon was a huge hit and it had several lgbt characters. Klaus was an amazing film and it is the first time they showed representation of one of Europe’s indigenous tribes.
I remember fish eye having a female voice xD
Hanmacx they were saying we need a female version of power rangers for representation, but I said “we did that already, it was called Sailor Moon!!”
Man, these people like to forget the proud family existed real quick...
They probably never watched it.
There is Kipo and the age of wonderbeasts nobody from the main characters are white all of them are black, but I really dont noticed it. The main character Kipo is a blackasian girl, but they dont advertised her as some sensational groundbreaking perfect thing you automaticly need to like or worship, otherwise you are a sick "phobe". Because its dont pushing diversity agenda, virtue signalling or any SJW stuff, its just wants to tell an interesting story. Really guys you need to watch Kipo and the age of wonderbeasts, its a good example how to make a person of color or diversity characters right.
Tamás Papp
Those visuals made my head hurt.
So no.
yeah, plus one of the main characters is gay and they didn’t make it his whole entire personality, it was just something that he happened to be
@@mumblerogre2455 Drawn style nothing to do with great story telling, world and character building. So yes!
To be honest, the artstyle turns me off.
@@akazaz Well, Benson kind of has nothing going on for him on the first season. I gotta watch the second one tho.
Funny thing is, Hasbro helped build a cross-generational, iconic franchise off a bunch of Diaclone toys they got from Japan (Transformers).
Because kids were invested in the characters and stories, Transformers became way more than a toy Commercial. Kids were genuinely upset seeing Optimus Prime die in theaters, sparking his Resurrection arc.
The girls are cute, they have a nice shape, they look strong, but not _stronk,_ they show skin, and there's a prominent nice firm breast on screen. So thumbs up for the females. I see males, but I hope there's more of them.
*Codename: Kids Next Door*
Anyone forgot about that little gem?
NIGEL UNO
Sad news everyone: The Serfs is currently trying to bring back Netflix's She-Ra with a fundraiser. Excuse me... *Brings out the bottles of alcohol and bleach*
They can't , they have no authority
@@blairmiller9489 They can't? Oh! Though the charity is meant to "help trans people". And the reason why I used the quotes is because I don't trust The Serfs with the charity because they are woke middle-class white people supporting BLM.
I knew they had a petition on change.com, but given the bots on RT and Metacritic I have to wonder how many of those are bots.
@@tylerpreston699 How is a charity to get a cartoon going to help "trans people"?
@@blairmiller9489I don't know
keep in mind these are also the same people that say "white people cant write black characters" in comics, but in animation we have a bunch of white women writing Asian, Black and Latino characters yet they don't get the same treatment
I so hate it when people say shit like that.
Do they not realise that they are basically saying black people are not humans? That Asian people are not humans?
They dont have the same feelings as white people. They don't love like a white person. They don't hate like a white person. Etc. Somehow black/asian people are different?
People are people! Human are humans! The skin colour doesn't make their feelings any different to anyone else. Or feelings someone could empathise with or have felt themselves.
Why doesn't anyone call out this racism!! It's so frustrating how they continuously say shit like this and not be called out of how dehumanising they are towards black people and asians!
And people who believe in individuality are called racists because we don't put people in boxes.
This Asturs Rebellion looks pretty cool.
Now a days, you can't have two dudes who are really close friends, they can only be gay.
Exactly. These days, not even poor Sonic and Tails are immune to speculation about their friendship being more than just an innocent bond between two people who happen to both be male. To make matters worse, Tails is only 8 years old and Sonic is in his mid teens!
@Eatingyourarmslegs soyummy or maybe some people are lesbians? ever thought about that?
@@richerDiLefto who said sonic×tails was strictly sexual?
Blobby :3 There were articles that came out after the release of the movie saying that Sonic and Tails are totally gay for each other. Keep in mind Tails is 8 and Sonic is 15...
@@miikapm2 sexual or not, any kind of romantic relationship between an 8 year old and someone in their mid-teens would be fucked up...
The issue is you cant have "organic" diversity if you think about diversity at all. If you view the world by putting people in boxes of race,gender, orientation, etc... you can't break away from that mentality to make things about the individual. The individual makes the story.
I have no problem with my gay friends, but I turn off any show on Netflix that goes gay for no reason. Yet I have no problem with Anime shows that have the dapper gay bartenders like Food wars etc... with Anime you can just figure out they are gay without you most definitely being shown for sure they are. Often time its adding unneeded level of detail to side characters that you never see again because "virtue signal points."
"Even in literature and art, no man who bothers about originality will ever be original: whereas if you simply try to tell the truth (without caring twopence how often it has been told before) you will, nine times out of ten, become original without ever having noticed it."
-- C. S. Lewis, Mere Christianity
I think one of the cause for that is because many shows that usually features POC and LGBT, they tend to be so woke, ignoring the fact that both of them can have differing opinion that can be considered not woke. As a result, many people expect the show that features them to be very woke and a political piece.
@@magicwandstudio3141 and thus, not meant for mainstream audiences but 0.5% of the population.
There's an anime that tried to go the "no merchandising" route. It was called Fafner. The producers even proudly said that it was impossible to make a model kit out of the mecha. While it didn't fail and was a cult hit, it took nearly a decade before a sequel could be made precisely because it didn't rely on toy sales. Some even joked that they had to rely on pachinko machines to earn enough funds.
Nowadays they learned their lesson, and technology has finally caught up to make a working model of the title mecha.
Funny how Japan is way more diverse in their anime, manga, and games compared to the West. And they do it legit and in a genuine way. From a country that is less diverse than over here, who tends to force stuff and put it before the quality of characters and stories.
"And they do it legit and in a genuine way" Ha! No. Anime makes fun of anyone not straight and male. Naruto, One Piece, My Hero Academia, Fairy Tail. In all of those shows, they negatively represent a woman (In MHA all the women, coincidentally dress like strippers or are literally naked), gays (One Piece)
@@andrew10022 Given they do the representation and don't bring light to it because of virtue signaling and wokeness, yes they do. And they treat them like normal characters. The West panders and does it for woke points. They use the representation angle as a personality trait when it is not.
A major good example are Sailor Uranus and Sailor Neptune. Yuri On Ice is a good example. Tokyo Godfathers is a good example. Revolutionary Girl Utena is a good example. Sakura's brother in Cardcaptor Sakura is a good example. Leeron from Gurren Lagann is a pretty good example. Jakotsu from Inuyasha is a decent example. Elements of it are found in Ouran High School Host Club.
Among others.
@@andrew10022 God I hate people abusing "literally". Where in MHA are there any women shown literally naked? Gimme a break.
I hope you aren't referring to Hagakure, because if so that's silly lol
Forced diversity is just laziness
I agree.
It allows for you to dismiss depth to characters because you made their appeal their sexuality, gender, or ethnicity. This is happening a lot with modern comics.
When you're so stunning and brave you hurt other stunning and brave things
Tumblr was like a zit that popped in the late 2000s, and all the chunky tumblrites spilled right out into Twitter, which is why it's now a toxic waste dump lol
The point of using diversity as a selling point is using it as an argumentative trap when criticized. We already knew that but pretending you don’t wastes breath and bandwidth.
I can watch a show and not care about diversity why cant these animators do that as well.
Because they don't want to entertain. They want to virtue signal and preach.
The whole diversity thing is why I try to dissociate my nationality from my own projects. "Author" sounds less shameful than "Mexican author" because the later feels like people will care about you only for being Mexican and not for the value of your work.
To add insult to injury, High Guardian Spice is the reason I sail the seven seas for anime. Producers don't get paid, but Crunchyroll is finding their own vanity. High Guardian Spice and new offices to be precise.
I'm certain their release of anime based on Korean Webtoons IPs might be related to licensing issues in Japan.
I would love to watch Asturs it looks so good someone please pick this up
"Diversity" has become a buzzword, along with a lot of the crap they throw out there.
That's the point lower the quality to be norm.
The problem with diversity like this is that as the only character trait which makes a very shallow boring character and usually a bad show
Cartoon Network will greenlight Thundercats Roar and not this?
See Sara’s art is appealing, I have zero clue what’s with this push in western animation to make ugly characters, and an ugly world due to the “style” of the show. Like for all faults I give to Steven Universe, I can say that it had a decent artistic style. For all the shit I rightfully give to Korra, the characters look good, and the animation is great. I give Southpark a pass because the world’s meant to look like shit, because the whole thing is one big joke, but there’s no humor in the poor design of most of these characters, just a poor stylistic choice.
Korra is a beautiful mess of a show. Ha ha.
@@ClownfishTV People really only liked the last two seasons anyway.
Gotta fight the male gaze.
You see lots of shows like whatever the hell that other show was in that post...Wild Life? as a case of 'style' being an excuse for a lack of skill. Lots of these newer show runners and 'talents' are essentially fresh off the boat to this field but are getting these projects right away with no idea what they are doing, so things being ugly by design alleviates the pressure. Another part of that might stem from what seems to be the new norm, set by Rebecca Sugar with Steven Universe's production, which is that being on model is of low importance- AMAs have explained their standard was "if you can tell who the character is, then it's on model enough"- audiences tended to disagree though as I've yet to see any critique of the show, even the most favorable ones, defend the inconsistent visuals from episode to episode- seemingly only the crew would look at Garnet being as tall as Steven for a scene or Steven and Connie suddenly having the proportions of Nendoroids for an episode and say "good enough".
On the other side of that issue, you also see a lot of projects trying to essentially copy how Steven Universe looked, with everything being round and simple with bright colors everywhere, because that show was a success and people will look toward things that resemble something they are already familiar with and liked. Even Sara's concept is guilty of this because you'd be hard pressed to deny Last Airbender influence in it- it's not wrong or bad in of itself though. The other reason is because it's so streamlined- it's easy to draw and thus cheaper to make. Similar rationale is how 'manga' styles evolved- designs are very simple with only basic strokes to fill in some detail to facilitate needing to get 15-20 pages drawn, inked, and screentoned every week. The more intricate and detailed series are on monthly serials most of the time; and then there's Kaoru Mori, she's a beast of her own and there's a very obvious reason Young Bride's Story runs in a magazine that prints once every two months.
even some of their so called skinny beautiful art has no style and looks like a bad interpertation of old post cards. I Can't stand it.
Ah, the fundamental point. Faux diversity is not empowering, does not help real diversity and makes real creativity difficult.
No white people in Avatar, huh never even noticed
Weird its like as long as you have good characters and good story, no one cares about race.
Wonder why no one else has caught on to that, lol.
The one Noelle likes looks awful, with the Sara Momobami's actually looks interesting. How much you wanna bet Abelle worked on shera and this is just nepotism of the privileged, upper-class Californians helping each other and only each other.
I don't think they're THAT bad but the clothes are grossly overdesigned. Dial it back a bit and they've be much more serviceable.
Geeky and Kneon are my primary source of news now.
I'm sorry. Ha ha.
Mine too
I'm in it for the pop culture news.
I'm Latina, i only mostly care about characters and story, if there are characters with different skin colors and ethnicitiy, fantastic, but it shouldn't be the main thing about the characters.
Man, good thing i can draw Anime stuff lol.
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@@ZeroOmega-vg8nq Sure, give me a minute
@@ZeroOmega-vg8nq Just so you know, i'm not a professional lol
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Anybodh remember Denise Young Smith? Apple's vice-president of diversity who said "...you can have a room full of white men and be diverse" and was fired for wrongthink? Ironic that She-Ra' and High Guardian Spice's writer's rooms are full of white women yet no one was batting an eye.
One of the reason why I loathe modern TV programming is because so much of it is based off of having diversity and so much of the Draw of the show is pushed towards diversity and not an actual good story
I have a compromise- they can have their diversity, but they have to stop putting out low effort trash.
This is one of my issues with what became of Steven universe: it became “look! Gay! Woman! Ooooo man look at all these skin colors! Look at these non-straight characters!” And that isn’t fun. It’s just not. I don’t care if a character is gay or not, I don’t care if they’re white or not. I don’t care if they’re women or not. It’s about good characters. Good story. Not what group representation you check the box of.
No offense, but I absolutely hate the term “people of color” or “PoC”. I find it to be highly offensive and borderline segregational. That, and by skin color. I would like for people to just be called by name, or if you must, their ethnicity.
Its practically dismissive. Like saying, well if we HAVE to acknowledge your kind and existence at all then we'll use this quick, barely there discription.
And the sham being that most times they're only talking about blacks. The rest of us just get tossed in as honorary abbreviations. ...charmed.
Just say minority or ethnic, we got that memo decades ago and it does fit.
it's literally "anyone who isn't white or asian" lmao
Same
I'm not offended by it but i do think it's a very dumb term. Everyone is of some type of color
We did reach segregation again, different paths but same destination
I loved and related to a number of cartoon characters despite them looking nothing like me, such as Samurai Jack.
Okay, time to chime in since I was pleasantly surprised to see I had worked with the artist making the character designs of the anime-like action show being pitched. You don't need to pitch to suits if you can hire the artists yourselves. If you keep the scale of the project small, it is possible to produce an animation yourself. Certainly not four seasons of course, but the technology and skill is out there for a single animator to produce one episode -- I've seen it happen in the hentai community. ONE animator, using nothing but Toon Boom Studio/Harmony or After Effects, making 20 minutes of content. That is affordable for a writer to hire that animator instead of spending the money on lattes or San Francisco apartment rent (just move back in with parents, it's the trendy thing to do nowadays lol). And that animator would appreciate the work and creative freedom rather than being treated like a sweatshop employee. More artists working on a project would of course make the work go faster if the writer can afford it. And if the writer cannot afford making an animation, why not make a walking simulator game instead, a game is cheaper to produce per minute of runtime. Still out of budget? How about a comic / manga or webtoon, you only need to pair up with one artist. Or if there are still budgetary constraints, just make a visual novel instead, that gets the most run time per art piece produced. And if all else fails, start with a light novel, that's how most blockbuster stories in anime started out as. The gist of it is, no need to pitch to gatekeepers, anyone has the means to publish their own content right now, and let the market dictate the success.
How to identify a Social Justice Writer:
• Usually a group of white women, with a diverse hair color.
• Presents themselves as the first minority to write. Discrediting all the great minority writers before them.
• Values diversity over great stories that could inspire viewers to realize what they are capable of.
• Don't get confused with how many times they talk about diversity because the main character in these types of shows are usually white women.
• they think that diversity only mean women and lesbians.
i'm sick to death of the phrase "diversity and inclusion" I don't want to see degenerate alphabet people in the shows that I'm trying to watch or the games I'm trying to play.
based and correctpilled
Exactly as a gay man I hate two dimensional characters who only exist to push an agenda
Diversity can be part of a great show but only if its used well such as being essential to the world building such as Avatar the last Airbender or legend of Zelda or dozens of great role-playing games
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I LOVE the way the main female character looks in that promo. So beautiful and confident!
This makes me nervous as a young creator. Seeing all of this makes me wonder if I should even bother going into the entertainment industry since this happen. I have no other skills other than my love for story telling....
As long as there's a story with a beginning, middle and end. That's all that matters.
Especially endings, there has been so many stories destroyed by terribly crafted, empty endings.
@@hubbawah Star vs.the forces of evil and the Voltron reboot comes to mind.
Hone your skills as a storyteller, and keep your eyes on the independent route, the "professional" comic companies are dying, animation is harder to do independently but it's becoming more and more possible. And, as Kneon points out, look for merchandising opportunities, remember that George Lucas made a mint from Star Wars toy sales back in the day.
I know how you feel. I started a web novel a few months ago.
Being a creator has always been hard for so many reasons, there's always gonna be something dumb about the industry so don't let it get to you too much.
It’s certainly made me suspicious as hell about different types of people in animated shows.
A show needs to be made out of love. There needs to be love for its characters, story, and the world within. Making a show out of spite will never go well. If your motivation is tied to petty emotional issues, it won't reflect well when you write (or pitch) the show.
THIS! This is the word that I've been looking for: "Advertised Diversity & Inclusion".
It's truly the core issue of the modern entertainment media decline which also spawned the malicious creatures known as SJW. No wonder why they were so keen on barking things about inclusions, diversity, and so on, because the media encourages it! They had been undermining the true diversity with their finest capitalistic agenda packed in the name of "diversity". Truly deplorable.
It's also sad that potentially great projects nearly got cancelled because there are people who want to control the meaning of diversity with their own views. Still, I hope those projects could still move forward with compelling stories above all else, including Astur's Rebellion.
It depends on how they handle it. Here in Europe we actually have a bunch of cartoons, comics, children books and films featuring people of color or gingers in the lead role or in a prominent role, such as Pippi Longstocking, W.I.T.C.H., Yakari, Ythaq, Alone, Wakfu, The Mysterious Cities of Gold, Kirikou et la Sorcière, Lilly the Witch, etc. But here we just do not make a big deal out of it. We just create art and see if people like it.
Interesting point
When they say Diverse they often replace ginger with black characters
ya know you have a point. When avatar TLA came out and through out its whole run I never heard the term diversity come up. People always said "wow these are good characters" or "wow this is a good story" their race or gender never was never a talking point people just liked the show. Creators and companies dont get that people get annoyed when you put a big neon sign screaming "hey we are diverse" just let the product speak for itself and be organic.
Remember El Tigre, or Young Justice/Teen Titans ore really any DC show and even the Dragon Prince right now
Back in the 90's, i like watching shows like All That and Kenan & Kel, not because of how diverse racially the casts is but because it's just entertaining to watch.
Hey, there are some Korra fans that like both avatar series! The underlying themes present in both series are consistent and deeply important - spirituality and the balance of energy within ones self. Korra may not be Aang but there isn't anything wrong with that. If you look passed the boxes certain groups try to identify the characters as, you can like both characters and enjoy their respective adventures. The 'image' of Korra sadly has been twisted by certain ideologies that try to portray her as something unrepresentative of herself which unfortunately sours viewers perception of Korra and how cool of a character she is. I like Korra and found value in her journey through the course of her story in the series. Her struggles and lessons learned helped inspire me and probably a lot of other people. Much like Zuko, the journey Korra has to travel helps mellow and open her outlook on existence and how she can utilise the power she has been granted to help others. While I enjoyed Zuko's journey more, I did love how Korra had to face her self-centered self and come to terms with her ego. Korra had to learn who she was and what the Avatar meant to her not what the world expected and criticized her for which is contextualized by the decisions she had to make regarding the spirit world.
Akairenn yes I love both avatar and korra and while I admit that korra has flaws I still think that it’s a fun show and compare to most sequels korra is actually one of the decent ones and aang and korra are my favs
A lot of shows in the 90s had a diverse cast and they didn’t promote the fact it was diverse like crazy, they promoted the story and characters.
I stopped watching Dragon Prince when a general couldn't speak (command her troops), and her colleagues couldn't understand her sign language. That's so unbelievable I couldn't continue.
Wait why?
I hate forced diversity. Also, tan/dark chicks in animation are universally loved (its hot) but if everyone is a minority it will lose its appeal.
There is a reason why I watched older anime and cartoons. The diversity is more holistic and about a story. Knights of the Zodiac would never be green light in this day and time because of the SJW which is a shame.
The "THEIR LOGO WAS A DAMN RAINBOW" made me snicker like a super villain. Make of that what you will.
Also, Astur's Rebellion look like something I might have wanted to watch.
They have colored hair, so they clearly are 'persons of color'.
@20:14 -- Deqa absolutely reminds me of a character from 80s animation. Specifically, Diana on DUNGEONS & DRAGONS. (Funnily enough, Toei Animation did the animation for that show, so there's the anime influence too)
Is Astur's Rebellion gonna be an anime?
Diversity definitely doesn't mean ten zillion recolors of the token diversity person.
That's what it feels like to me.
Diversity can be important, but shows need story and plot elements are still important. Without out those elements, it will end up hurting the the characters your establish as well as show itself. Static Shock, Justice League, and many shows from the DCAU/Timmverse were able to utilize both.
its so refreshing to see a creator who values genuine diversity and not just faux diversity.
The art style is generic as all hell but the costumes are 10/10
Good diversity: Avatar the Last Airbender, Gargoyles, Gravity Falls
Bad diversity: RWBY (post S3), Captain Marvel, new She-Ra
What's the problem wuth new she-ra?
Oh my god someone actually said it in public! The sun is rising! The nightmare is ending!