No wonder i struggled with this when getting gold on it. The recoil + ext mag I slowness hindered it ( it was also pre range buff so it shot tacks past 5 m)
@@Rayzboomboomroom While i think you're right i think the fix isn't to flip their current values. Keep extended mag 2 the way it is but make extended mag 1 faster than it. Reloads in this game are awful especially with there being no sleight of hand
@WayStedYou Yeah, I think it should give a 10% Reduction of Recoil across the board with a better Multiplier at the cost of a slight reduction to Rate of Fire for Automatic Weapons.
@@Leothecat2way I think you're putting too much faith in noobs lol. They prob think the extra recoil will help them hit the head. Ppl in COD4 days used to justify using Last Stand or Martyrdom in the weirdest ways, even though they were obviously bad perks
It's seeming like rapid fire isn't a crutch attachment in this game for most guns, which gives me some relief because I don't always want to lose a bunch of recoil control and range.
@@SourceOfUs The 9mm PM also gets a significant increase in my eyes, because its TTK gets below 300ms with rapid fire. And the drawbacks aren't that bad on it!
This couldnt have come at a more perfect time for me, i just started using this gun a ton yesterday. Ive only been playing for a week ish now but im actually having fun with this gun
@@sir_mcfer_the_69th34chf battle does nearly nothing, it only effects your headshots after your range drop off, also why should a headshot attachment give you more recoil which makes it harder to hit headshot, it’s completely counterintuitive
@@sir_mcfer_the_69th34yeah let me trade my bullet velocity, range, an attachment slot AND butcher my recoil just so i need THREE headshots instead of FOUR to reduce the shots to kill by ONE. stellar design🙄🤦♂️
If you use this in Tac Stance with the CHF Barrel almost completely negates the downside of the barrel AND the rapid fire. It's actually insane how good it is with both of them
It's warzones fault they already have the lachman sub so now they have to make the c9 different. Same reason they added an AK 74 instead of an ak47@@bradenmchenry995
are the ergonomic grip and cqb grip worth using? i haven’t noticed them helping too much even with how much i shoot while sliding, normal quickdraw or commando feels better? does the slide to fire and dive to fire times only affect the time it takes to fire after a slide while hip firing? i’m always ADSed first.
5:45 extended mag 2 is essential a reload time of 0.00 seconds (because you don’t with double capacity) compared to fast mag on first reload and then 2 sec after.
i just wish the maps were better designed around this fact. the designers carelessly crammed in so many headglitches and then made everything wallbangable in hopes that it would sort itself out, but it really didn't.
"Keeps the ttk for everyone more consistent" by nerfing high skill players that can hit headshots? Also pffft consistent ttk? On these servers? Ur in la la land
@@clarkierubbs5819i love how all of us high level players all agree that it’s a welcome change so when people like you complain you self report your skill level 😂
Please get the devs to fix the damn Tskarov Marksman Riffle. Whenever I choose the load out in match game keeps on giving me a pistol instead. It has been glitched like this for a week now
It’s happening with many guns/blueprints in the game. Extremely disappointing how Treyarch just won’t acknowledge the problem despite loads of reports.
Great guides Ace! Would you think doable to add the best loadout attachments combination in the spreadsheet as well? I assume that throughout the year, they are likely to change and it will also help us get a full view of all classes. Keep it up :)
Does anyone know why my TDM leaderboard stats dont show? It says unranked need to play 5 games. I have 370 wins and I am 0% it shows nothing unranked for weeks. FFA and other stuff shows but Ive less than 5 matches, sometimes just 1 game.
Can you do the Swat 5.56, Marine SP, and the other starting weapons? Trying to make sure I get the best info and idea on those since those will have to be pretty reliable for early prestiges
I am getting really tired of random settings getting put back to default after every update, lately it has been the operators and loadouts. How can they not just fix shit without fucking more shit up?!
Constructive criticism: Would prefer that the attachments that are not in use on that particular build would not be outlined to make it easier to focus on the ones being in use.
Unfortunately with how my sheet is designed, a published version won't have the same access and control as I have since I obviously can't give edit permissions to anyone but myself.
I rlly hate how they handle headshots in this game, they need to remove chf barrel and make headshots actually useful by default, i dont mind if its 2-3 headshots to reduce shots to kill
I believe that’s the really hard core competitive players following the professional GAs (or people that just blindly follow what the pros are using). If it weren’t for GAs, the AMES likely wouldn’t be used at all
Does anyone else think the streaks in this game are some of the weakest we have ever had? Streaks are either useless or way too expensive for their cost. Alot of the lethal streaks need serious buffs or lower costs. The chopper and ac130 seem alright but everything else sucks for the most part. They want to stop uav spam but make everything else besides uavs useless makes no sense
I still think Ghosts had some of the worst streaks. These ones havr potential but badly need buffs. I run low streaks to save myself the disappointment of my invalid placement gun... I meant sentry gun not killing anything or my AGR going down to a slew of gunfire.
Yeah the AI lethal streaks are useless as there isn't much competition (imo) in perk 3 and im not taking myself out of the match with a player controlled Streak (unless I'm going for one of the higher end ones) but with prestiging I don't have them often so UAV spam
Hello Ace! Ty for everything! I follow u for a long time ago, egen you had only 14k sub. Wish u all the best, lets go 1M! Do you know what the hell they did to our medal collection?? I had over 100 nuclears and now only show 4.. 😢😥
I despise how low the headshot damage it. Headshots are risky but worth if you hit it but not in this game plus they gave us a ton of headshot challenges. Headshots are only risk there’s no trade off.
The point was to keep ttk closer together. Because everyone would always complain about shooting first and dying and seeing that they got headshoted made people mad. Headshots are for camo challenges, you shouldn’t be worrying about your kd if your going for dark matter.
@@andrewroff5387 Now we get to enjoy consistent, widespread head glitches that are easier to employ and can be a nightmare to counter. The balance tradeoff wasn’t worth it.
The chf barrel should have no downsides. All across the game its pointless to shoot on the head ans this barrel would be the fix but the recoil it ads is just plain stupid
Treyarch had finally screwed their black ops 6 up, with multiple issues of the game freezing on loading screen for next match, I mean did they even run a bug test before the release of the game, it has so many issues of crashes from Campaign to Multiplayer, I feel like trading the game in for something else that doesn't crash this much while running a match.
In zombies if you use the chf barrel on the tanto .22 and shoot it with frenzied guard to make the mag bottomless eventually the recoil gets so high it flips upside down.
I have and all testing shows it doesn't exist and what most people claiming "skill based damage" are experiencing is simply connection related/hit detection issues.
Hilarious, how in BO6 a game that 99% of the weapons in it require headshots to gain progression for camos (that are all the same) and the attachments that are supposed to help with those specific challenges make the challenge itself harder to complete 😂😂😂. I swear to god this game feels like it was made to have a snails pace grind that would take a lifetime. A meh leveling system, 80% boring trash maps, every weapon has 40 something levels 💀💀💀, you have to unlock the same sights for different weapons basically 5 times, 100 headshots for almost every weapon, crackhead movement that looks stupid more than half the time while making headshots harder to go for, garbage perk arrangement, perks that don’t even work right 45% of the time, garbage streaks, and more I don’t even want to think about right now that makes this game feel like it was made by Infinity Ward basically forcing a Treyarch coat of paint on it and slapping it out of the oven 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
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Treyarch should definitely fix Extended Mag 1 on the C9. There is no way that magazine should be reloading slower than Extended Mag 2.
Yeah seems like those values are swapped
It's almost like they hired programmers that don't play COD.
No wonder i struggled with this when getting gold on it.
The recoil + ext mag I slowness hindered it ( it was also pre range buff so it shot tacks past 5 m)
@@Rayzboomboomroom While i think you're right i think the fix isn't to flip their current values. Keep extended mag 2 the way it is but make extended mag 1 faster than it. Reloads in this game are awful especially with there being no sleight of hand
@@billucf96 I dont think playing cod or not playing cod changes how you fuck up the Values on your programming. its clearly an error.
The fact the CHF Barrel has more recoil than the Rapid Fire Mod shows how bad the Barrel really is.
Shows how pointless it is since you still need to land 2-3 headshots to even get a benefit on top which you wont due to recoil anyway
@WayStedYou Yeah, I think it should give a 10% Reduction of Recoil across the board with a better Multiplier at the cost of a slight reduction to Rate of Fire for Automatic Weapons.
yeah it's a beginner's trap, similar to when FMJ used to say it increased damage
@@asdfghjkl2261 Not really. They'll see the recoil penalty stat with 3 Red Arrows and think "Nope, this sucks".
@@Leothecat2way I think you're putting too much faith in noobs lol. They prob think the extra recoil will help them hit the head. Ppl in COD4 days used to justify using Last Stand or Martyrdom in the weirdest ways, even though they were obviously bad perks
It's seeming like rapid fire isn't a crutch attachment in this game for most guns, which gives me some relief because I don't always want to lose a bunch of recoil control and range.
Some guns get a big rate of fire like the PP919 with rapid fire you get 12% increase
@@SourceOfUs The 9mm PM also gets a significant increase in my eyes, because its TTK gets below 300ms with rapid fire. And the drawbacks aren't that bad on it!
I haven't unlocked it for Tanto yet, but I suspect it's quite good
@@Kyle-nm1kh Tanto is already good but the rapid fire makes it better since the increased recoil is basically nonexistant due to ROF
It's a situational attachment but it's very good in those situations. Most non-automatics want it and the Tanto and PP19 really shine with it
This couldnt have come at a more perfect time for me, i just started using this gun a ton yesterday. Ive only been playing for a week ish now but im actually having fun with this gun
C9 is a solid SMG
XMG is a solid LMG
Model L is a solid AR
C9 is trash I'm glad they didn't call it MP5
Same. Just now starting to level this up
I miss my c9, but the camo grind must go on
I swear the fact that headshots are useless is the dumbest thing ever
I would agree if chf barrel didnt exist
@@sir_mcfer_the_69th34chf battle does nearly nothing, it only effects your headshots after your range drop off, also why should a headshot attachment give you more recoil which makes it harder to hit headshot, it’s completely counterintuitive
I swear the fact that you kids bitch about every single thing possible is the dumbest thing ever.
@@sir_mcfer_the_69th34yeah let me trade my bullet velocity, range, an attachment slot AND butcher my recoil just so i need THREE headshots instead of FOUR to reduce the shots to kill by ONE. stellar design🙄🤦♂️
@@sir_mcfer_the_69th34 Worthless attachment
If you use this in Tac Stance with the CHF Barrel almost completely negates the downside of the barrel AND the rapid fire.
It's actually insane how good it is with both of them
I would swear that ext mag 1 didnt have cons before. Great vid Ace like always 🤝🏼
Another great video, I would have never known about the extended mag 1 & 2 reload time anomaly otherwise. Thanks!!
9:24 can we talk about how he litterally got a triple frag kill?
Luck
@nuggetz4037 fr
Frags in this game are busted lol
I just noticed you have the country of origin and the ammunition under the gun name. Nice!
Might as well not even be an mp5 anymore with how much they murdered the model
@ fr, inbred ahh gun model
It's warzones fault they already have the lachman sub so now they have to make the c9 different. Same reason they added an AK 74 instead of an ak47@@bradenmchenry995
@@bradenmchenry995 the "pls no sue us" option
@@bradenmchenry995look how they've massacred my boy
Thank you for all your videos. You are a gift to the community.
They really scuffed the weapon model of the mp5 in this game
Yeah, looks stretched out, definitely the ugliest MP5 wannabe.
100% agree. I hate the irons not because they're bad but because they are horrible for an mp5
The prestige 1 lvl 50 blueprint for the c9 looks like a bubba'd thompson smg
@@SsjRedneck I'm pretending that doesn't exist.
*HK93A1
The Lachmann sub yet again.
I would've even class the C9 with th3 Lachmanns
You should do a video on your thoughts on headshots and how you’d improve them or rebalance them
Or just play hc
I do for camos, but come on I shouldn’t have to hit 4 headshots at point blank range
@@DeathMetalDuelist666 srsly what were they thinking
Re balance them?!
MAKE
THEM
WORK
are the ergonomic grip and cqb grip worth using? i haven’t noticed them helping too much even with how much i shoot while sliding, normal quickdraw or commando feels better? does the slide to fire and dive to fire times only affect the time it takes to fire after a slide while hip firing? i’m always ADSed first.
5:45 extended mag 2 is essential a reload time of 0.00 seconds (because you don’t with double capacity) compared to fast mag on first reload and then 2 sec after.
Which attachment fixes the rampant desync, horrendous spawns and continuous loadout bugs? 😢
My 8 incher
@@vinsmokesanji9251so 2.... 2.3 if your mom's in the room....
@@Ferdy-c6w yea and a solid 3 if its your dad
@@vinsmokesanji9251 obviously
my humongous sausage
can you make a video about the score streaks? they are very underwhelming..
I love this gun. Prob my current fav
I think it’s kind of silly how headshots are pointless but I kind of like the change. Keeps the Ttk for everyone more consistent.
So everybody aiming on the head are literally punished.. smaller hirbox for no upside..
i just wish the maps were better designed around this fact. the designers carelessly crammed in so many headglitches and then made everything wallbangable in hopes that it would sort itself out, but it really didn't.
"Keeps the ttk for everyone more consistent" by nerfing high skill players that can hit headshots? Also pffft consistent ttk? On these servers? Ur in la la land
@@clarkierubbs5819i love how all of us high level players all agree that it’s a welcome change so when people like you complain you self report your skill level 😂
@@jeremyrennerapp yeah I think he’s missing the point lol
Please get the devs to fix the damn Tskarov Marksman Riffle. Whenever I choose the load out in match game keeps on giving me a pistol instead. It has been glitched like this for a week now
It’s happening with many guns/blueprints in the game. Extremely disappointing how Treyarch just won’t acknowledge the problem despite loads of reports.
Y'all reset your blueprints to default, then make your own gun from scratch 😎👍
@@AC-hj9tv Yep. That's what I did!
@@Nothing2424-m4n excellent 😎 🎸
“4 years development” by the way
How long until you do the unbalanced underpowered lmg speed shotguns????? Hmmm?
Great guides Ace!
Would you think doable to add the best loadout attachments combination in the spreadsheet as well?
I assume that throughout the year, they are likely to change and it will also help us get a full view of all classes.
Keep it up :)
wtf, Skyline piano jump to window opening at 5:19... my mind is blown.
Bruh 🤯
C9 is basically the MP5 but it’s the combination between German and Spain versions of the iconic mp5 called it cursed
Please review the Goblin Mk2 next. That thing is by far my favorite assault rifle and it shreds once you get good with it. Takes skill to master
The stats seem ok. I guess I can get over the look of the MP5😅
Does anyone know why my TDM leaderboard stats dont show? It says unranked need to play 5 games. I have 370 wins and I am 0% it shows nothing unranked for weeks. FFA and other stuff shows but Ive less than 5 matches, sometimes just 1 game.
Somehow this thing is my favorite smg, followed by the tanto
Need to bring back the class with perks and tactical
Can you do a video on ranked play and the best class setups ??
Can you do the Swat 5.56, Marine SP, and the other starting weapons? Trying to make sure I get the best info and idea on those since those will have to be pretty reliable for early prestiges
Just play hc, you can use any gun any way tbh
C9 is my fav weapon in the game i think
I don't always play COD. When I do, I prefer Xclusive Ace's content.
I am getting really tired of random settings getting put back to default after every update, lately it has been the operators and loadouts. How can they not just fix shit without fucking more shit up?!
I had been using this but have switched back to the XM4
Does that reload time for extended mag 1 affect the other weapons too or only the C9?
This gun is killer in wz
Constructive criticism: Would prefer that the attachments that are not in use on that particular build would not be outlined to make it easier to focus on the ones being in use.
It's crazy that rapid fire makes your recoil almost go in reverse, lol for one bullet in goes down instead of up. So wierd.
*MP5 baby!*
also thought i'd let you know, your spreadsheet seems to contain a toggle for rapid fire, but it appears to not be working.
Unfortunately with how my sheet is designed, a published version won't have the same access and control as I have since I obviously can't give edit permissions to anyone but myself.
Ace is taq stance on smgs worth the attachment in regards to recoil ECT. I enjoyed taq stance in MW3, just wondering if it's a good option in general
Dude what is your go to gun that you love
I don't have one single go to but the C9 is one of my go to guns for sure
@ what’s your perks line up or you have a video on your perks
I rlly hate how they handle headshots in this game, they need to remove chf barrel and make headshots actually useful by default, i dont mind if its 2-3 headshots to reduce shots to kill
C9 is my favorite Overwatch team
Whats the reason for the new attachment on the xm4? It's there but not allowed? It's a stock attachment btw
It will be unlocked when the challenge is done in the event
Is this reload pre or post reload buff?
Reload buff was Warzone only and I only cover MP stats here
@ dang I thought It was global. Multi could have used it 🥲thanks for clearing that up.
Is this better than the KSV?
I wreck w rapid fire on ksv
Do you know why everyone is picking the Ames for ranked? It doesn’t seem to have anything going for it I don’t get it
I believe that’s the really hard core competitive players following the professional GAs (or people that just blindly follow what the pros are using). If it weren’t for GAs, the AMES likely wouldn’t be used at all
@@TheXclusiveAceahh ok that makes sense
Does anyone else think the streaks in this game are some of the weakest we have ever had? Streaks are either useless or way too expensive for their cost. Alot of the lethal streaks need serious buffs or lower costs. The chopper and ac130 seem alright but everything else sucks for the most part. They want to stop uav spam but make everything else besides uavs useless makes no sense
You can take down a harp with 2 rockets it's pathetic
I still think Ghosts had some of the worst streaks. These ones havr potential but badly need buffs. I run low streaks to save myself the disappointment of my invalid placement gun... I meant sentry gun not killing anything or my AGR going down to a slew of gunfire.
Thank everyone who complained that streaks were to good in Cold War.
@@Matty-kelly one rocket and 1 sniper shot will also take it out.
Yeah the AI lethal streaks are useless as there isn't much competition (imo) in perk 3 and im not taking myself out of the match with a player controlled Streak (unless I'm going for one of the higher end ones) but with prestiging I don't have them often so UAV spam
Hello Ace! Ty for everything! I follow u for a long time ago, egen you had only 14k sub.
Wish u all the best, lets go 1M!
Do you know what the hell they did to our medal collection?? I had over 100 nuclears and now only show 4.. 😢😥
Thanks! I believe they just fixed that issue with a small update within the last hour of two
@TheXclusiveAce i just checked now before i stop playing and it was 4.. :(
Hope they fix this! 🙏
Model-L gun guide next?
Why you not continue with AR's?
He's going in unlock order, outside of new seasonal content.
Because he already cover the best assault rifle! :P
AK best rifle xD ?
He usually starts by doing the most popular/earliest unlocked guns
He's basically pulling an "ahoy" where he used to do gun guides in the series (he quit after ghosts) on doing unlock order
Why even have a chf barrel if its so horrible? They should just replace it with a heavy barrel that just helps recoil
shot guns next please..
Look how they massacred my boy the MP5. At least it's a shooter!
I despise how low the headshot damage it. Headshots are risky but worth if you hit it but not in this game plus they gave us a ton of headshot challenges. Headshots are only risk there’s no trade off.
The point was to keep ttk closer together. Because everyone would always complain about shooting first and dying and seeing that they got headshoted made people mad. Headshots are for camo challenges, you shouldn’t be worrying about your kd if your going for dark matter.
@@andrewroff5387 Now we get to enjoy consistent, widespread head glitches that are easier to employ and can be a nightmare to counter. The balance tradeoff wasn’t worth it.
The MP5 ahm… I mean C9 is the greatest!
C9 = MP5, for new COD players. 🙂
Ace is our guiding light. Lol
I feel like the reload time is the biggest drawback of this gun.
The chf barrel should have no downsides. All across the game its pointless to shoot on the head ans this barrel would be the fix but the recoil it ads is just plain stupid
Fav smg
I love call of duty
Treyarch had finally screwed their black ops 6 up, with multiple issues of the game freezing on loading screen for next match, I mean did they even run a bug test before the release of the game, it has so many issues of crashes from Campaign to Multiplayer, I feel like trading the game in for something else that doesn't crash this much while running a match.
Do a top 5 five guns video!
My guy just look at what the sweats in your games dropping possible nukes, chopper gunners, and VSAT’s are using that’s the top 5 guns
@ Being skilled is better then gun stat differences. I wants aces top 5 as that is the statically good guns.
idk if is me or smgs are like popcorn guns, even in HC mode 😕
thank god there’s time stamps not watching allat
I hated this gun until I used it for a while I think the visual gun bouncing throws me off
In zombies if you use the chf barrel on the tanto .22 and shoot it with frenzied guard to make the mag bottomless eventually the recoil gets so high it flips upside down.
i hate this mp5 model even more than the mw 2 one...... i don't know why they can't just bring the actual mp5 rather than a cheap,local made mp5
Lol just take the chf barrel out of the game or make it exclusively zombies attatchment idk
Can you do a “best guns for hardcore“ video if you have time? Thanks, love all your videos!!
This is not the MP5. Ion know what they were on when they made this gun
It’s based off the mp5 I think.
@William1683BT It is based off the MP5, I'm saying it sucks and should be disassociated🤣
@@jeremybrown9611 yeah it does feel like pea shooter at times.
The C9 genuinely might be the greatest SMG in COD history, it just feels insanely good to use
First cod?
@adrijiyuda I'm 31 years old, played COD online since COD 4. The C9 is ridiculously good, just because the game is new doesnt mean it's not true
@@skarmory93 the C9 is probably the best smg in bo6 but it’s not even better than the Superi and Static from MW3 let alone cod history lol
I agree it feels great. That weird zig zag in the recoil is slightly offputting though but it’s less noticeable in practice
@@megacluckcluck2302 once you get the recoil down you end up challenging AR's at medium range and beating them
Can you please Test „skill based damage“ is True or Not?
I have and all testing shows it doesn't exist and what most people claiming "skill based damage" are experiencing is simply connection related/hit detection issues.
no point of making a class when the game is just gonna mid game change your aim/recoil/hit reg/dmg to make sure you have a 1kd
Performs well but man they picked the ugliest MP5 they could find didn't they? That half circle front sight and the square handguard are atrocious.
Headshots should give you one shot less to kill, they way the implemented it is dumb af.
The dumbest thing about the c9 is the name…IT’S AN MP5!!!!
Hilarious, how in BO6 a game that 99% of the weapons in it require headshots to gain progression for camos (that are all the same) and the attachments that are supposed to help with those specific challenges make the challenge itself harder to complete 😂😂😂.
I swear to god this game feels like it was made to have a snails pace grind that would take a lifetime. A meh leveling system, 80% boring trash maps, every weapon has 40 something levels 💀💀💀, you have to unlock the same sights for different weapons basically 5 times, 100 headshots for almost every weapon, crackhead movement that looks stupid more than half the time while making headshots harder to go for, garbage perk arrangement, perks that don’t even work right 45% of the time, garbage streaks, and more I don’t even want to think about right now that makes this game feel like it was made by Infinity Ward basically forcing a Treyarch coat of paint on it and slapping it out of the oven 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Feels like headshots heal enemies a little
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why are your class recommendations so ass