Shiny MacBook Keys?

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  • Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024

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  • @JerrySchulze
    @JerrySchulze  Год назад +3

    🛍Get a GhostCover: geni.us/z92L3
    🛍Get Keyshorts: geni.us/AaCd2fw
    👀See my MacBook Pro desk setup and accessories: ruclips.net/video/_T1XHSuvnPM/видео.html

  • @dominikfulop7188
    @dominikfulop7188 3 месяца назад +254

    So you put a cover on it and then sell the mac after 5-6 years without ever using what you paid for, its a tool guys, use it.

    • @nothumanlol
      @nothumanlol 24 дня назад +16

      totally agree

    • @ErickNagaya
      @ErickNagaya 20 дней назад +7

      Exactly. The same reason why I dont use phone cases.

    • @SammmN
      @SammmN 20 дней назад +7

      This can break your screen so don’t do it

    • @alexcuevas5633
      @alexcuevas5633 19 дней назад +9

      @@ErickNagaya phone cases are valid though. Keyboard covers not so much

    • @Iisakki3000
      @Iisakki3000 17 дней назад +6

      ​@@ErickNagaya I use phone cases not to protect the phone, but because the phones these days are too thin to hold comfortably. The edges are so sharp my hands start to sting. And the back glass is way too slippery as well. These things are not built to be comfortable to use, but to look good on advertisements instead.

  • @RealJohnRedcorn
    @RealJohnRedcorn 5 месяцев назад +71

    I just applied a lite layer of WD-40 ... now my whole keyboard is shiny 😃

    • @asphalt2554
      @asphalt2554 21 день назад +1

      WD-40 is an anti rust agent lol

    • @cyrusklantarpour6642
      @cyrusklantarpour6642 21 день назад +1

      Dude but it might be cancerous! Plz Stop doing it

    • @aelfwynnx
      @aelfwynnx 17 дней назад

      @@cyrusklantarpour6642no its cerosine

    • @Emayeah
      @Emayeah 16 дней назад +1

      ​@@asphalt2554but it is greasy, maybe they meant that

    • @Emayeah
      @Emayeah 16 дней назад +1

      ​@@cyrusklantarpour6642it is a blatant joke...

  • @singhkrishanu
    @singhkrishanu Год назад +267

    Please don't recommend people using keyboard covers. They do the opposite of what they are supposed to do. First it blocks off the air ventilation and heat. Second, after a few months of usage, you will see keyboard marks on the screen and when you remove the plastic cover off your keyboard, you will see an oil like coating which makes the entire keyboard sticky. Had a really bad experience with these.

    • @JerrySchulze
      @JerrySchulze  Год назад +26

      I definitely called out a coupe reasons you may not want to.

    • @CobbCountyGovt
      @CobbCountyGovt Год назад +6

      Especially if you have the Intel Macs. They need the ventilation

    • @kreska7170
      @kreska7170 Год назад +3

      So do you suggest to use stickers than cover?

    • @xAlpi3x
      @xAlpi3x 6 месяцев назад +12

      @@JerrySchulzeyeah but your final comment was that they won’t damage the laptop but it will 🤣

    • @MistaRunIt
      @MistaRunIt 6 месяцев назад +2

      I do not get these issues when I remove my keyboard cover and if there is oil marks on screen I simply just wipe it with microfiber cloth and screen is clean. As far as breathability I believe the laptop has ventilation in many locations. I am using a very paper thin clear plastic keyboard cover so my laptop closes fine.

  • @bryans8656
    @bryans8656 Год назад +131

    I think I'd rather live with glossy keys on my M2 MBA than have to adapt to the different feel from that cover.

    • @urbanman1516
      @urbanman1516 2 месяца назад +9

      Exactly. Why gum up the keyboard with stickers?

    • @-bigChungusVerified
      @-bigChungusVerified 18 дней назад

      You can use d brand stickers that feels like paper

    • @ddnava96
      @ddnava96 2 дня назад

      I intentionally purchased my M1 MBA with a Japanese keyboard, which means I can't even use keyboard covers even if I wanted to

    • @TheWellington1997
      @TheWellington1997 День назад +2

      My cover saved me from water accident …

  • @TheCat0327
    @TheCat0327 24 дня назад +8

    Just use it as is. You are not supposed to use this product forever.

  • @ricardomoran7724
    @ricardomoran7724 3 месяца назад +16

    Keyboard covers WILL DAMAGE YOUR SCREEN. It happened TWICE to me, the first time with my old 2012 MBP, years later when I started using Keyboard Cover again ruined the screen on my 2020 MBP Screen. DON’T USE THEM. Is better a shiny key than a scratched or marked screen

    • @-bigChungusVerified
      @-bigChungusVerified 18 дней назад

      I think you can use a d-brand keyboard sticker. It’s actually paper but oil proof

  • @junace
    @junace 11 месяцев назад +27

    The ghostcover will leave stains on the monitor instead since it will touce the screen when you close it.

  • @NicoloSodano
    @NicoloSodano 5 месяцев назад +50

    I am glad someone made a video about this serious and shameful problem that plagues us consumers. Let me preface this by saying, I have been an Apple customer for 20 years and have always had Apple products, and it is undeniable that despite the remarkable technological evolution, today the problems are much more evident and often unjustifiable. Let's get specific, in May last year I bought my MacBook Pro m2 max, I work on it, I wanted the maximum and I demand the maximum. And when we talk about Apple we mean maximum we know, performance and aesthetics, two points that with Apple should never have any flaws... and instead, these damn keys on all the models of the last few years have this cursed and horrible production flaw. I have to say, I'm very manic in my use, and believe me, seeing only after 3 months that shit on the keys was an incredulous blow. I immediately started monitoring the problem and taking photos and reporting everything to Apple, clearly receiving evasive responses, passing it off as 'normal' ... it's not normal, don't believe it. Several months later I have continued to complain about the problem, saying that there are thousands of people online who complain about this problem and that it is unacceptable for an almost 4k Mac to have a keyboard in this condition, which, mind you, is not just an aesthetic issue, but also a very obvious feeltouch issue... (ps. I have used at least 4/5 different keyboard covers, forget it). I don't want covers, I don't want stickers, we are talking about Apple! The keys don't have to be cheap or poorly made, but this is now crap keys. I'll get to the point... after months, at my last Apple meeting I managed to get all the keys changed and now it's as good as new again... I don't know how long but you have to insist and demand this. It's not your sweaty or greasy hands, it's the keys that are shit! The more people do this the more they will recognise the problem! Trust me

    • @Michiel1980
      @Michiel1980 4 месяца назад +4

      You are 100% right!

    • @servantofourlordjesuschris6456
      @servantofourlordjesuschris6456 2 месяца назад +1

      I also thought about cleaning beneath the keys, and I got little bits of the metal scratched. There are also light spots on my space black MacBook.

    • @pnpn2711
      @pnpn2711 Месяц назад +1

      I bought a Macbook pro M3 in November/2023, within 3 months the most used keys had shiny marks that didn't come off even when cleaning. I complained to Apple here in Portugal and they did nothing, they said it was AESTHETIC DAMAGE. I said that if it was damage I could only avoid it if I didn't touch the keyboard, and if I didn't touch the keyboard what I wanted the notebook for!!!! I complained to Apple Care and they recalled the computer, it was at Apple for 1 month and I saw it as new, they twisted the keyboard. I received it 1 month ago and it's as bad as ever, it's the same again and I took so much care. The keys are very pure and absorb everything we put in our hands.
      A notebook that cost me 3100 euros, if I could I would return it.

    • @federicobacher
      @federicobacher Месяц назад

      Hi Nico, how could you demand for the key change? A call them and they say they wont change them. Any suggestion is welcome.

    • @NicoloSodano
      @NicoloSodano Месяц назад

      @@federicobacher hello! This is a serious problem, terrible and shameful, that I don’t think Apple will ever want to recognize. There is no way to protect the keys from this lousy damage, if you use it, even with the utmost care and care, the keys will become shiny. I’m more than sure, from in-depth research that this depends on the use of cheap plastics, I have friends with much lower cost PCs that don’t have this problem. The same thing, for Apple, also happens on desktop keyboards. To answer your question, the only way was (still under warranty) to testify with photos after only 3 months from the purchase that the keys were already ruined, and in the Apple store to insist, it was not easy, I was probably lucky that the technician knew and therefore turned a blind eye, in that case they replaced all the keys but not the keyboard. We are talking about pieces of plastic that would cost them cents. Keep in mind that even on these new ones, without ever having used a product (degreaser or other) after only 3 months you can already see the shiny halos again. There’s nothing you can do to protect them, forget any type of keyboard protection, I’ve tried them all, and they all suck, they slow down the writing run, they tend to look rubbery, they block dissipation, etc etc. Finally, take pictures, document if you have recently had it, and push with complaints etc. Unfortunately I can’t recommend more than that, good luck!

  • @Piipperi800
    @Piipperi800 Год назад +44

    I have a MacBook Air from 2015, and it never in my use got shiny keys. However, most second hand Apple laptops/keyboards I have bought have had shiny keys.
    There are a few reasons why this happens, but it should be noted that this is an issue with 99% of laptops, and the early PowerBooks also have had this issue. Best thing Apple could do to get rid of the issue is to use PBT keycaps instead of the typical ABS they use (and what every other laptop manufacturer uses cuz it's cheap)

    • @dsarks
      @dsarks Год назад +3

      This is because apple made change to plastic from PBT to ABS in 2016 . ABS is cheaper

    • @Piipperi800
      @Piipperi800 Год назад +6

      @@dsarks as I said in my comment, I’ve bought multiple used laptops, all of which are before 2016, and most have shiny keys.

  • @zoulhhh
    @zoulhhh Год назад +73

    There once was a company selling high quality products. It was called Apple. Unfortunately that company doesn‘t exist anymore.

    • @Maybaby1959
      @Maybaby1959 5 месяцев назад +10

      Died with jobs

    • @jackveech4941
      @jackveech4941 Месяц назад +2

      No they’re still great just have some problems

    • @Dann_BS
      @Dann_BS 24 дня назад +6

      They are still the best in terms of quality, but have 2 big issues:
      -The Mac keyboard plastic
      -The cheaper batteries from iPhone 14 or later that has less life span

    • @whkn
      @whkn 24 дня назад

      Your statement contradicts itself. Please reread. ​@@Dann_BS

    • @ViorelIanasi
      @ViorelIanasi 22 дня назад +1

      ​@@Dann_BSalso the tolerance between screen and display is so small and the display so soft that easely some dibris cautght in between can cause micro-holes on the screen.

  • @ericonca
    @ericonca Год назад +12

    Out of those two solutions, I'd just live with the shiny keys.

  • @singhkrishanu
    @singhkrishanu Год назад +16

    This is one of the biggest issues I have with my Macbook Pro 14 keyboard as I sweat a lot and live in a tropical climate. My personal favourite is the keyboard of lenovo laptops. The key travel and quality is excellent. I also find apple's keyboard a little mushy when compared to lenovo or HP.

    • @weaesq
      @weaesq 9 месяцев назад

      Apple has been trying to push down the thickness of the Macbooks so the whole thing is easier to travel with. I don't know if the different plastics behave differently with the different thicknesses and style of keyboards when Apple shifted back in 2016.
      The best keyboard in my mind is still the IBM PC keyboards when DOS (PC2??) was still being used. It was a tank and had a keyboard feel and noise that gave positive feedback that you had pressed the key. However, no way would that fit on a Macbook.

  • @nomecognome2
    @nomecognome2 Год назад +16

    My 2017 Air after millions of keypresses still looks great and the keys aren’t even too shiny. They must’ve changed the material in newer models

    • @surface_glow2520
      @surface_glow2520 Год назад

      They had to cut costs to keep price under $2500 for base model.

    • @mauricioreginato
      @mauricioreginato 3 месяца назад

      do you know if its possible to switch the keyboards key with the old one? I also have an old one, maybe its an option.

    • @nomecognome2
      @nomecognome2 3 месяца назад +2

      @@mauricioreginato impossible, they have completely different designs

  • @carlapark
    @carlapark Год назад +19

    I have also noticed that there is a shine developing on the metal area where I rest my wrist near the trackpad... but only on one side. It's shiny from wear... not grease or dirt.... It has only happened with my 2020 M1... the 2013 model I used previously that my child now uses, still looks pristine! Def a change in materials.

    • @Smoshylife
      @Smoshylife Год назад +2

      The space grey looks good, but it fades

    • @surface_glow2520
      @surface_glow2520 Год назад

      Recycled materials might be the reason for the wear discoloration.

    • @h.hristov
      @h.hristov 9 месяцев назад +2

      yeah that’s a problem with the space grey and any other color. always buy a silver macbook, these don’t fade

    • @watermelon2223
      @watermelon2223 6 месяцев назад

      hopefully you gave sold the m1 by now

  • @JuliatheVideoEditor
    @JuliatheVideoEditor 6 месяцев назад +9

    I have had the clear plastic cover and due to the height they add to the keys, when I closed the MacBook, the key cover pressed into my screen and damaged my screen in a year. The stickers may be a better option to avoid this. Thanks for making this video.

    • @NedKattan
      @NedKattan 3 месяца назад

      I have the same problem but I have never used keyboard cover. I was thinking about buying a plastic cover to protect my new MacBook Air screen from the same issue , but thankfully I saw your comment.

  • @sholmes_ttyy
    @sholmes_ttyy Год назад +8

    Yes, that silicon cover saved my butterfly keyboard. Previously, I was facing numerous issues with dust, but now I don't see any problems.

  • @TommyTheMooch
    @TommyTheMooch Год назад +4

    I would just use it bare and live with the glossy keys. It's a productivity tool and you're not going to be productive if you waste time trying to prevent an inevitable process.

  • @theinfiniteisallaroundus2576
    @theinfiniteisallaroundus2576 11 месяцев назад +5

    Not my intention to be presumptuous, only to depict this obvious quality problem. I have a MacBook Pro 14 m1 and the shiny keys started to appear in the first months of use. On the other hand I have a Lenovo Legion laptop with more heavy use than my MacBook and the keyboard is in pristine condition after almost 2 years. So yes it is an Apple quality problem.

  • @chrisabbenda
    @chrisabbenda Год назад +7

    Hey Jerry can you just replace the keycaps as an alternative? Definitely more risky and labor intensive but curious to hear if you looked into this

    • @r.r.richie9423
      @r.r.richie9423 Год назад +1

      Yes, I bought a spare keyboard, from a parts place, but the keys wear just as fast.

  • @frozennorthproductions
    @frozennorthproductions 8 месяцев назад +17

    I've been using a silicone keyboard cover on my 2020 Intel Macbook Pro since day one and I do a LOT of typing. So much that the silicone cover actually has shiny spots on it and had given the keyboard under shiny spots.
    By comparison, the silicone cover is much more shiny than the actual keyboard keys, so it did help quite a bit, but the shiny spots still appeared.
    I really like that Keyshorts company you mentioned and I think that might be the best option in the future.
    Great video!

    • @wendytang101
      @wendytang101 3 месяца назад

      UGHHHH SAME HERE ! THIS IS SO ANNOYING

    • @zbahmd
      @zbahmd 3 месяца назад

      Same here, and the silicon cover also makes your screen dirty!

    • @ryandobal
      @ryandobal 17 дней назад

      I had a TPU cover since day one on my 2020 M1 macbook pro, and was contemplating between silicone and TPU. The TPU has shiny spots for sure, very noticeable, but the keyboard itself is perfect. Maybe silicone has more friction on the keys than TPU.

  • @FinalElements
    @FinalElements Год назад +5

    The best solution as my opinion to use external Apple keyboard and the Macbook to install on a special stand for laptops that as well helps to you save your eyes and posture.

    • @JerrySchulze
      @JerrySchulze  Год назад

      I normally am at a desk with this type of setup ruclips.net/video/N7LMUWxRjSg/видео.html

  • @miodiofoo
    @miodiofoo День назад +1

    ik nobody cares. but i kinda like the shine. it reminds me how much i work hard. kinda like "well-loved".

  • @ByVitoriaMoreira
    @ByVitoriaMoreira Год назад +4

    It’s been 6 months, how do you feel about the key shorts? Do they leave any marks on the screen? I was looking about this because of the language and not because of the marks on the keyboard but it’s also good to know

  • @alexanders1859
    @alexanders1859 23 дня назад +2

    Replacement keycaps are actually pretty cheap on Amazon, I would just do that instead of covers or stickers

  • @gallardo20000
    @gallardo20000 Год назад +4

    Pre 2016 keyboards were DEFINITELY higher quality plastic resin. My 2015 MBP retina developed keyboard wear after 5 years of heavy use. My M2 Air developed the same level of wear in less than 5 months. The quality of the plastic has definitely declined, you can feel the material on the new macbook keyboards is much thinner, malleable and flimsy compared to the older keys which were made of a harder material.

  • @Hawker900XP
    @Hawker900XP Год назад +6

    I’ve had the same experience with the cover. Seems to work OK, with no shiny spots after a year or so but you do loss that feel. I’ll try the 2nd option.

  • @aelaan12
    @aelaan12 Год назад +20

    I am so glad you made this video Jerry!! It is also all over the subreddit for MacBook. I definitely could not use a cover or silly stickers for the same reason you mentioned. Plus the fact... that Apple will use it as a reason that the screen gets damaged. That is going to cause even more controversy. Excellent coverage Jerry, I hope we are not getting into another keyboard gate.

    • @JerrySchulze
      @JerrySchulze  Год назад

      If maddening but if has been happening for so many years at this point I am not sure what they would do.

    • @millgate
      @millgate Год назад +3

      @@JerrySchulze FYI, I had a cover on my macbook pro m1 for over 8 months and now there is a permanent line marked on my screen

    • @DanielRodriguez-fg5ll
      @DanielRodriguez-fg5ll Год назад +1

      ​@@millgatethanks. Would you file for applecare if you had applecare? Apple has no way to know you used a cover no?

  • @cheongmj
    @cheongmj Год назад +7

    I've been using TPU covers over my Macbook Pro 2017. It's been almost 6 years and they still look brand new! The TPU covers tend to turn dull or grey with use but it's always cheap to change them out!

    • @JerrySchulze
      @JerrySchulze  Год назад

      Cool, any issues with it hitting the display?

    • @mrz4297
      @mrz4297 Год назад +1

      @@JerrySchulze i got some residue on screen, i need to wipe the screen everyday. dont leave the tpu cover too long..

    • @JerrySchulze
      @JerrySchulze  Год назад

      @@mrz4297 good to know!

    • @prebenjaeger
      @prebenjaeger 4 месяца назад

      Looks brand new but what's the point?

  • @yokokoko499
    @yokokoko499 21 день назад +2

    You shouldnt be complaining about this. I have a lot of laptops where its key legends have completely disappeared. Exepcially gaming laptops.

    • @MalindaRichmal
      @MalindaRichmal 18 дней назад

      🤦🏻‍♀️ But those laptops aren't 'premium' laptops. Apple laptops are sold as 'premium'.

    • @yokokoko499
      @yokokoko499 18 дней назад +1

      @@MalindaRichmal r u telling me laptops with an I7 or I9 10th gen and later, paired with the 30 or 40 RTX series laptops, with prices ranging from 1,500$ to 3,000$ isn’t Premium? Some of these laptops, for some reason has very buggy Windows installed. Windows 10 even. And to think that the bluetooth in windows for MAJORITY of these laptips suk3d fuk1ing hard? Bruh ☠️

    • @MalindaRichmal
      @MalindaRichmal 18 дней назад

      ​@@yokokoko499 Gaming laptops and premium laptops are not the same - a quick search on Google will make this clear. Generally, gaming laptops are engineered with a focus on performance, particularly for gaming. To balance cost with high-end specifications, they often utilise more affordable materials. In contrast, premium laptops are built with top-tier materials, like aluminium alloys and refined components, such as those found in Microsoft’s Surface products. Whilst these premium laptops offer superior build quality, they usually cannot match the performance of gaming laptops at a similar price point. In fact, if you want better specifications in a premium laptop, the prices will skyrocket. In short: Gaming and premium laptops aim at different target audiences.

    • @sriramramesh8203
      @sriramramesh8203 14 дней назад

      then complain about those? I have a entry level gaming laptop with none of the shiny keys, apple especially should do better becuase of how long macbooks can last now due to the m series chips and it does not take long for the keys to get oiled up on these macs

    • @yokokoko499
      @yokokoko499 14 дней назад

      @@sriramramesh8203 u should read the i reply I’ve made to malinda. And if u want a time frame for the laptops I’ve mentioned. Some of these took months, some took a year or two. These laptops are more than just ‘premium’

  • @auguststas7770
    @auguststas7770 Год назад +2

    I got macbook pro 16". I wash my hands with soap before work :DDDD. And still some shininness appears. On the other side of the story, we also have an Asus gaming laptop (from 2014) - despite the fact that it can't run new titles or is slower when calculating stuff still the materials are so good it is enough to wipe it with fiber. The prob is that stickers hide backlight. It would be EPIC if apple provide more keycaps for replacing old ones if they decided to cheap out on them..

  • @incensedmars873
    @incensedmars873 4 месяца назад +2

    the fact that a 1000+ laptop comes with low quality abs keycaps its nonsense, there is no real solution since the problem is the cheap plastic they use.

  • @joseerazevedo
    @joseerazevedo День назад

    Just wondering: will they have simple transparent matte/glossy stickers? That'd be nice!

  • @dereknoll
    @dereknoll Год назад +3

    Thanks for posting this. I thought I had a problem with my fingers being extra oily ha. I hate this keyboard issue.

  • @LeftClickMage
    @LeftClickMage 9 дней назад

    This is normal for all keyboards. there isn’t a plastic that won’t wear down. I built custom mechanical keyboards, and my 700$ main one uses PBT keycaps from polycaps. one of the hardest plastics you can buy for keycaps. it still wears and gets shiny. it’s normal.

  • @bartonlynch
    @bartonlynch Год назад +2

    The sticker "solution" opens a whole new can of worms. It's downright stressful, psychotic and frustrating to apply. It will wear sooner rather than later. The ultra thin cover is the best trade off as a solution. My 12 y/o Apple Magic Keyboard still looks flawless and works like new thanks to a iSkin thin cover. So did my previous 8 y/o MBP 13" Retina. So it was natural to buy another one for my new 14" MBP. The key "greasy" wear look triggers my OCD.

  • @SimpleAsBDCs
    @SimpleAsBDCs Год назад +3

    I thought it was grease 2 I have had my Mac Book Air about a month…

  • @abz7800
    @abz7800 4 дня назад

    you should have done more research since the real way to 'solve' this issue is simple and it will restore the MacBook to new condition with zero disadvantages and that is simply to buy keycaps from amazon and replace the entire caps . i have done this myself and can assure your theres zero difference between the apple keycaps and third party keycaps

  • @ChrisWilmshurst
    @ChrisWilmshurst Год назад +3

    Those stickers look the best to me! I wonder if there is a brand who sells replacement keys in general?

    • @JerrySchulze
      @JerrySchulze  Год назад +1

      I don't know if it is a great option but will see how the stickers go. For replacement keys, I wonder how difficult that is to replace and how long would they last? Thanks for checking it out, Chris!

  • @sowsow6677
    @sowsow6677 8 месяцев назад +2

    I have the exact same keyboard cover. Typing is definitely harder, but doable.

  • @Whigu
    @Whigu Год назад +3

    I wonder how fun it would be to change those stickers... Take all of those out and then put another one in :-D

    • @JerrySchulze
      @JerrySchulze  Год назад

      ya, probably not great but since I made it all the way through I may keep them for a while.

  • @opninjadude9__513
    @opninjadude9__513 10 месяцев назад +2

    Get a sticker for JUST the spacebar, it'll make your experience far less annoying

  • @andrewmerriman2963
    @andrewmerriman2963 Год назад +3

    I'm picky but neither option seems viable to me. Those self stick pads are definitely an over the top pain in the keister -- especially if you have to replace one.

  • @jdengsky
    @jdengsky Год назад +4

    I use that ghost keyboard cover since day one. It didn’t feel comfortable, keys felt stiff. So on the cover, I cut a slip above and below each key, it instantly felt like natural keyboard. I use cover not for shy key, but to prevent crumps get into the keyboard.

    • @JerrySchulze
      @JerrySchulze  Год назад

      Interesting, thanks for the tip!

    • @carolynchen317
      @carolynchen317 Год назад

      i'm really interested to hear about this! what do you mean a slip above and below?

    • @jdengsky
      @jdengsky Год назад +3

      @@carolynchen317 imagine each letter is a square, square has 4 sides: top bottom left right. So I cut an opening on top of the letter and bottom of the letter. The key cover doesn’t feel stiff anymore after.

  • @vampireofthedawn
    @vampireofthedawn 5 месяцев назад +1

    That issue really frustrated me, I paid thousands of euros for this MacBook Pro and I am using it not heavily and clean as much as I can (I must admit I take care of my devices really good) and anyway I have this stain especially on my space bar. This is unacceptable for such a laptop with such a high build quality on every part except the fucking cheapest part used - the keyboard.

  • @stevens1041
    @stevens1041 15 дней назад

    Hey everyone--I used to work in IT support, working on thousands of different macbooks. Don't use covers for your keyboards--they will put pressure, and damage the screen. I saw it happen so many times, and often it was beyond rehabilitation.

  • @alexcuevas5633
    @alexcuevas5633 19 дней назад

    This is peak first world problem core.
    ALL Keyboards will have shiny keys. Doesn’t matter if it’s a Mac or a PC. Every keyboard I have used eventually has this phenomenon occurring. Even my second hand Dell keyboard has this and so have the school laptops that I have been provided with. Over time it’s bound to happen. Do I mind it? Not really unless the paint or stickers on the keys wear off. Just accept it and move on

  • @JavierIabarraG
    @JavierIabarraG 5 месяцев назад +1

    I recently bought a macbook pro 16 m3 max and it had this problem in less than a week! I previously had a macbook m1 max but I don't remember it being so fast that the keys got stained, fortunately I returned the m3 max and bought a new one, now it I use it with a cover, but I remove it when I close the MacBook.

  • @MrNinGame
    @MrNinGame 18 дней назад

    a keyboard cover is definitely what saved my butterfly switches MBP from having any issue with dust. however, I heard that Apple now strongly argue against using one due to the lack of clearance on the new MBA / MBP between the screen and the keyboard.

  • @bvidyadharjoshi4063
    @bvidyadharjoshi4063 15 дней назад

    I use my Mac in clamshell mode. It is hardly once in three months that I use my MBP keyboard. So, by the time it turns shiny, I probably would have used it for several years.

  • @sriramramesh8203
    @sriramramesh8203 14 дней назад

    my lenovo ideapad gaming 3 despite being with me through the last two years of college and a lot more has literally zero shiny keys but the macbook air 2020 m1 that I got just 3 or 4 months ago is already pretty oiled up, seriously the m series apple stuff is pretty good all they need is better keycap material

  • @arlencarlson
    @arlencarlson 17 дней назад

    I have to say all their keyboards do this…right from my old 2009 MBP onwards. Maybe some sooner than other. And, to dispute this video-and most of the time it is cleanable, at least initially.

  • @lbch_youtube
    @lbch_youtube 16 дней назад

    I"m super mad at this. Cuz you get the white Apple keyboard, the same issue doesn't happen. And it's super unfriendly to anyone with nails.

  • @m0doavion
    @m0doavion Год назад +1

    I am an @apple user; however, every year it becomes more expensive and more ordinary. The materials are poor, and you have to buy cases, protectors, or covers that end up making a luxury product bulkier and uglier.
    I got the new MacBook Pro a few months ago and paid thousands of dollars for a laptop that is supposed to be of high quality, yet Apple tries to use cheap plastics that end up shining like they’re covered in oil. I definitely would prefer if they made thicker keys but of better quality

  • @funclips5958
    @funclips5958 6 месяцев назад +1

    Me watching from an old android phone 😢

  • @amzires_art
    @amzires_art 10 дней назад +1

    There is a third solution to this "problem". I often use it in my life and it always works like clockwork. Oh, and it's completely free. So, this is how I solve such "problems" - I just don't give a shit, and the problem solves itself.

  • @JoaquinVacas
    @JoaquinVacas 12 дней назад

    The high-quality laptop maker that Apple was some years ago isn't anymore.
    So, so sad.

  • @icy5619
    @icy5619 17 дней назад

    i have an alienware 15 r4 that i bought back in 2019 and the keyboard looks flawless especially the WASD keys which are used like a maniac on a gaming laptop so the only reason apple had to do this is probably to make their laptops thin and light

  • @latinreuben
    @latinreuben 17 дней назад

    Horrible waste of time. Think how long it will take to try to trade in in future. The longer its applied, rhe harder it will be to remove if at all... completely

  • @federicobacher
    @federicobacher Месяц назад

    Great video ! Is happening to me too. If is a material defect shouldn apple be responsable? and change the key caps? I call them and they denied. We should do a group claim. Or may be legal advice.

  • @ejy-u1x
    @ejy-u1x 23 дня назад

    I wouldn't mind paying extra for a better keyboard material, but I just hate the shiny keys as it makes the product look bad.

  • @marekolen7355
    @marekolen7355 19 дней назад +1

    Keyboard stickers i can tell if mac have them or not without touch it and look closely

  • @aszab1239
    @aszab1239 5 месяцев назад

    Aaaaaand I just lost my faith in this guy. MacBooks are EXTREMELY THIN! There is almost little to no space between the screen and the keyboard. Don't put anything between there. Your wallet WILL regret it with hinge and screen repairs.

  • @stingus
    @stingus 19 дней назад

    Well, or you can just let the keys become shiny. It is still not as ugly as space black color coming off from the MacBook body where your palms rest around the touch bar.

  • @megatronskneecap
    @megatronskneecap 24 дня назад

    Keyboard covers are not it. If it bothers you that much and you have the money literally just get a repair shop you trust to replace the machines top case every once in a while but that's stupid.

  • @Millie.4
    @Millie.4 17 дней назад

    The bottom corners besides the trackpad of my 2015 MacBook air are polished shiny where it’s used to much

  • @TheFaustianMan
    @TheFaustianMan Год назад +2

    I thought it was just me. I thought I was eating too much grease, and I shit you not, cut out all fried foods and oils from my diet. I lost 15 lbs, and my mother was worried I was sick! It still didn't help! I feel like a filthy degenerate who just watches porn all day and jizzezzz all over their keys and doesn't clean them up! It got so bad I stopped taking the laptop out in public and I don't open it up when my parents are in the room. I am seriously considering just using an ipad when school starts. I just feel a deep seated shame. I know it's silly. But it's my true emotion.

    • @gallardo20000
      @gallardo20000 Год назад +1

      Buddy. Calm down. It’s literally because you use your keyboard . It’s friction wear due to usage. If it was oil, it would be resolved with an alcohol wipe.

    • @h.hristov
      @h.hristov 9 месяцев назад

      lmao

  • @EJBert
    @EJBert 19 дней назад

    Applying those key stickers looks like a fun hobby for someone without a life! How long will it be before the stickers start to peel?

  • @craigasketch
    @craigasketch 21 день назад

    I don't know what it was about the ghostcovers FYI but my dog loves eating them. So I gave up.

  • @AArch64_Gamer
    @AArch64_Gamer 8 месяцев назад +2

    This is just a follow up for keyboard covers rubbing your keys into a mirror shine. I have this M2 MacBook Pro 13 inch that I've been using daily for a year. I use a similar keyboard cover as shown in the video (TPU material, very thin). After a year, there has been no wear on the keys whatsoever. I did notice that instead of the keys wearing, the cover was wearing instead. It isn't getting shiny, but bumps up slightly. It's so little, it shouldn't be making a difference, and I I had to do was push/stretch it back down. TPU material is supposedly resistant to abrasions, so it should be good as a cover that needs to withstand human skin rubbing on it 24/7.

    • @JerrySchulze
      @JerrySchulze  8 месяцев назад

      Thanks so much for this feedback, it’s very helpful.

  • @joseerazevedo
    @joseerazevedo День назад

    Hi! Thanks for the video. I still prefer my mid 2012 15" retina keyboard to this new version. I like the stickers idea more than the cover. But the solution I found, since I use it on a stand, is a Saatechi Slim X1 Bluetooth Backlit Keyboard and a Magic Trackpad 2 - both silver and black to match the MBP.
    I'm mostly concerned not with the greasy look of the keys but, as happened on a friend's Air, the complete erasure of paint from the keys. This happened on two of his keyboard keys. I'll pass the stickers solution to him.
    Well, after all, when all the keys look shiny it'll be fine, the problem is half shiny, half matte :) The 1398 keys were more on the shiny side.
    Another cursed inheritance from the gone (thanks...) Jony Ive. I thought Apple engineers would have got rid of it by now. Specially since the 1398 series did not had this problem. Hope someday someone the will rescue that recipe at the bottom of a forgotten drawer :)
    All the best!

  • @JavierIabarraG
    @JavierIabarraG 5 месяцев назад

    I recently bought a macbook pro 16 m3 max and it had this problem in less than a week! I previously had a macbook m1 max but I don't remember it being so fast that the keys got stained, fortunately I returned the m3 max and bought a new one, now it I use it with a cover, but I remove it when I close the MacBook.

  • @rg975
    @rg975 5 месяцев назад +1

    I think the issues with keyboard covers apply only to older MacBooks. I've been using a cover 100% of the time on my M1 MacBook Pro and have had zero issues. My keycaps aren't "shiny" at all

  • @M4RJESS
    @M4RJESS Месяц назад

    maybe apple sacrificed the keys to for a lighter build and breathable unit for these new chips. im not sure at all but just a guess. sucks cause we pay so much and invest in these computers for +years and end up with these cheaply built keys.

  • @ZenguitarLo
    @ZenguitarLo 8 месяцев назад +1

    If this is to do with materials used for keypads, is it kinda abnormal wear and tear covered by apple care warranty?

  • @IvanCalderon
    @IvanCalderon 18 дней назад

    If the apple car ever got released im sure you guys would install covers, protectors and cases on every wear part.

  • @LanceRazon
    @LanceRazon 25 дней назад

    How bout the keyboard keys are on the screen, cannot be cleaned.. so frustrating after 6months only. There should be a recall on this

  • @Jorge.O85
    @Jorge.O85 2 месяца назад

    People spend thousands of dollars for those crap laptops? 🤭 Apple is making everyone cucu...

  • @Andrew-zx9wx
    @Andrew-zx9wx Год назад +2

    This has bothered me for some time. You’d think Apple’s clever engineers would have come up with a solution already. How about some time of glass bonded on top of the key caps? Notice that the track pads don’t demo same wear as the keys.

  • @kelums1249
    @kelums1249 4 месяца назад

    I dont have it on my MacBook Air M1 which I had for 3 years. I have seen shiny keys on a Lenovo laptop though.

  • @mangokilla127
    @mangokilla127 25 дней назад

    Bro those keyshort stickers are $30 to $50... that's so much money for stickers lol

  • @HistoryNut-1701
    @HistoryNut-1701 11 месяцев назад +1

    I got a cover by the same company for the Magic Keyboard for the iPad Pro. I have similar issues with typing that you are, and I just can’t get the cover to lay flat and stay put when typing.

  • @jefferyjones8399
    @jefferyjones8399 Месяц назад

    I just bought a new MacBook a few weeks ago and yeah, this is still a problem.

  • @domdom-hh9tx
    @domdom-hh9tx Год назад +1

    mine took 1.5 years before it started going shiny (M1 MacBook Air)

  • @Thisismuhiuddin
    @Thisismuhiuddin 27 дней назад

    How is it going now? Any scratches or leaves of traces of the protector on the screen?!

  • @NolanKhalaf
    @NolanKhalaf Месяц назад

    4 thousand for a laptop with this
    Ffffffkkk me
    I’m returning it

  • @MistaRunIt
    @MistaRunIt Год назад +2

    It’s easy just clean it a little with microfiber cloth then put a keyboard tpu cover on it use it for a few months and ur shiny spots will be gone. I tried everything to try and get them off then I just got tired and put on a tpu keyboard cover. That was a several months ago today I took off the cover to clean it and I was suprised to see the keyboard matt like brand new. The tpu material must obsorb whatever is making these keys boards shiny.

    • @videosprism9480
      @videosprism9480 Год назад

      do u have macbook pro or macbook air
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    • @MistaRunIt
      @MistaRunIt 6 месяцев назад

      MacBook Pro 2019 16”

  • @FlyinRyanProductions406
    @FlyinRyanProductions406 Год назад +1

    I just gave up on worrying. iPad Pro keyboard has same issue. I’m not fond of the clear covers but the skins may be promising. In the end it may be easier just replace the key caps in the future. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @theflyingscott1
    @theflyingscott1 Год назад +2

    I’ve had the same issue with my MacBook Pro 14. The keyboard now looks awful. My other laptop - ThinkPad X1 - is far better in this regard. I love the Macbook but the keyboards still lag a long way behind those on Thinkpads sadly. Apple need to make these keyboards better, regarding use and appearance.

  • @losodinero
    @losodinero 11 месяцев назад +1

    I have this same issue with Logitech Mechanical keyboard as well. It's an eyesore.

  • @joffrey6831
    @joffrey6831 Год назад +2

    Me, an intellectual, putting a GhostCover on top of my Keyshorts🧐

    • @xiii9800xt
      @xiii9800xt 2 месяца назад

      Add an extra layer of keyshorts on top of the Ghostcover for good measure

  • @tenzingyatso5096
    @tenzingyatso5096 20 дней назад

    They did that on purpose so customers won't go for the used macs

  • @QuieroCake
    @QuieroCake 3 месяца назад

    I used keyboard cover and I never had an issue I did notice a line on my screen from the silicone cover but it always rubbed off and that once happened when it was tight in my backpack. I did notice a few of my keys a lil bit shiny even with cover. I guess that’s an apple problem! I just got an m3 pro MacBook and I placed a key cover so not sure if I want to keep or take it off. Oh btw I used the key cover over 5 years and a case and my Touch Bar MacBook looks new 😅

  • @aPizzaStainedSlob
    @aPizzaStainedSlob 9 месяцев назад +1

    My m2 macbook pro already is seeing wear on the spacebar after 3 weeks, it's why i found this video
    pretty disappointing

    • @h.hristov
      @h.hristov 9 месяцев назад

      yep. ive had my m1 for about 4-5 months and the spacebar is getting shiny on the left side where i usually press it

    • @aPizzaStainedSlob
      @aPizzaStainedSlob 9 месяцев назад

      @@h.hristov i've already decided that i'll order spare keys and then when they all start to wear down i'll take them to a repair store and just have someone swap them out for new ones; fortunately this model has the more replaceable caps; yours might also so it could be worth looking into, shouldn't be too expensive either

    • @h.hristov
      @h.hristov 9 месяцев назад

      @@aPizzaStainedSlob i ordered the transparent keyshorts stickers a few days ago. i’ll see if they’re any good. if not, I’ll just do what you do

  • @JimKanaris
    @JimKanaris Год назад +1

    How does a company that spends so much attention to detail botch this up?! Their anti glare film on the screen also drives me (and I’m sure a host of others) batty! Ya, the internals may be beautiful, but I don’t see that … ever! Ugh, Apple!!!! … that’s a bad apple!!

    • @h.hristov
      @h.hristov 9 месяцев назад +1

      ye it’s a little bit disappointing. takes away the pride

    • @JimKanaris
      @JimKanaris 9 месяцев назад

      @@h.hristov What's crazy is that sometimes I just switch to my Dell XPS for this and another reason: the screen! Apple's mini-LED is awesome, don't get me wrong. But it's a challenge (understatement) for those of us who like their screens to be smudge free. Try cleaning it regularly. The antiglare film and glossy screen make it close to impossible to keep clean--not an exaggeration! Don't use Whoosh, by the way. I had to have two screens replaced on my 16" M1 Pro because of it, according to an Apple genius. (Apple, apparently, has stopped recommending Whoosh.) Anyway, the almost-perfect laptop is far from perfect (for those of us who try to make their laptops look good and age well).

  • @BobbyG3.14
    @BobbyG3.14 Год назад +2

    i use a cover righ out of the box, to keep my +2K dollar laptop looking prestine and clean!

    • @JerrySchulze
      @JerrySchulze  Год назад +1

      Which one?

    • @BobbyG3.14
      @BobbyG3.14 Год назад

      @@JerrySchulze But I am now considering The Keyshorts as an alternative

    • @videosprism9480
      @videosprism9480 Год назад

      @@BobbyG3.14 which cover do u use

  • @leonugraha
    @leonugraha Год назад +2

    I did encounter a similar experience when using Intel MBP, thus, starting from MBP M1 Max, I began covering my keyboard with a silicone cover, sure enough, after a year or so, the matte finish on the top of keycaps has not peeled off yet. But, as a you said, the silicone cover, slows my typing speed.
    In addition, the silicone cover ALWAYS leaves an imprint on the screen when I close my top lid, leaving me constantly rubbing and cleaning my screen. At the end of the day, I would rather have peeling keycaps to risking my screen as I have to frequently wipe the screen.

    • @JerrySchulze
      @JerrySchulze  Год назад +1

      So you are still using the cover then?

    • @leonugraha
      @leonugraha Год назад

      @@JerrySchulze Exactly, and I am a little surprised when you also mention several alternatives such as sticker protectors for each individual keycap. Thanks Jerry and great info!

  • @jirkadolezal8127
    @jirkadolezal8127 7 месяцев назад +1

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  • @ashthewolfdog1380
    @ashthewolfdog1380 19 дней назад

    How about this for a easy fix. Have apple start making easily replaceable keyboards trackpads screens and batteries again. you can PERFECTLY integrate a sleek thin design but it still be able to be modular. So many people have proven it completely possible these days.

    • @abz7800
      @abz7800 4 дня назад

      fyi these key caps are replaceable he just didnt do research and didnt mention it in the video

  • @yv9386
    @yv9386 Год назад +1

    I just have to accept that, the solutions are not worth it for me