You're charging it wrong | The "SAFE" in MagSafe

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  • @SahandRahmdel
    @SahandRahmdel Год назад +168

    You actually can measure (or monitor) how much power is being drawn through the MagSafe port or any other charging port internally.
    To do so, do the following:
    1- Hold Option and click on the Apple logo on the top left of your screen.
    2- Select "System Informations"
    3- Choose "Power" from the left sidebar (the same place you check your battery cycle count and health)
    4- Scroll down to where you can see the power Wattage, the MacBook is drawing from the adapter.
    Hope you find this helpful!

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  Год назад +13

      😎

    • @graxxor
      @graxxor 10 месяцев назад +10

      TIL you can option click on the Apple Logo.

    • @tytso
      @tytso 9 месяцев назад +5

      I use AlDente Pro (version 1.24), and it has a very nice popup which shows up much power is being drawn from the adapter when it is plugged in, and how much of that power is going to recharge the battery, and how much is going to power the CPU. If the Macbook is not connected to power, it will show much power is being drained from the battery. So it's quite nice for showing much power you are using, and how much is getting drained from the battery.

    • @boshi9
      @boshi9 Месяц назад +3

      For me it just displays the power rating of the adapter, not the current power draw.

    • @SahandRahmdel
      @SahandRahmdel Месяц назад

      @@boshi9 it's probably drawing the full potential of the adapter then?

  • @workhardforit
    @workhardforit Месяц назад +2

    I’ve been using my 16” M3 Pro Macbook Pro exclusively off of the MagSafe since January.
    I do work with the mac disconnected from the plug on some weekends until down to 40% (I can never get it to drop any lower because the M3 Pro is just so damn efficient for the battery size of the 16”).
    8 months later and 47 cycles, battery health is till at 100%.
    Optimised charging keeps it at 80% everyday, for the most part.

  • @karthikeyanparasuraman9337
    @karthikeyanparasuraman9337 Год назад +26

    Hey Alex! Blender just dropped Blender 3.5 where the viewport is updated from OpenGL to Metal and Blender claims a big jump in performance. I would love to see you test in your macbook and mac studio and maybe compare the difference between performance of Blender 3.4 and 3.5.
    Love your videos btw!
    Thanks!

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  Год назад +7

      thanks for the heads up

    • @karthikeyanparasuraman9337
      @karthikeyanparasuraman9337 Год назад +1

      @@AZisk Cool!

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  Год назад +2

      @@karthikeyanparasuraman9337 BTW, is there a demo blender project I can just download and run/render that would demonstrate the difference?

    • @0versun0
      @0versun0 Год назад

      I use blender3d every day on mac m1 if you have a questions - welcome

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  Год назад +1

      @@0versun0 Thanks! same question i guess :)

  • @hawolex2341
    @hawolex2341 Год назад +1

    Sitting on a MBP 2021 M1 14" with the m1Pro chip. have been working on it all day. several teams calls. VS code open most of the day 36% battery left now and the estemate is 3:52 of battery left.... Can`t complain. battery health is 95% after 11 month of use.

  • @podlinux
    @podlinux 11 дней назад

    I have a M2 MacBook Air and use it on my lap a lot, because of that I can’t rely on MagSafe because it always gets knocked off so I need a more secure connection like USB-C.

  • @Kyurem_originale_Form
    @Kyurem_originale_Form Месяц назад +3

    He just changed the icon of his VSCode.

  • @danielkemmet2594
    @danielkemmet2594 Месяц назад

    Was there ever a follow up video for this? I don't see it in the show notes and it wasn't suggested as an end card

  • @Milaps
    @Milaps Год назад

    Hahahaha 30-40 tabs. That's sweet. I last checked my tabs run over 636. I have to use tab manager plus to go through all of them quickly. And Chrome is a battery sucker for sure.

  • @jjcoolaus
    @jjcoolaus Месяц назад

    You could upgrade to a hub that supports 140 watts power delivery

  • @lblchris
    @lblchris 4 месяца назад

    So, one year later, what is the answer?
    Is it safe to change a MacBook M2 or m3 with usb-c (connected to a monitor for example)?

  • @battlehunterofficial4586
    @battlehunterofficial4586 Год назад

    which framework you use for app development?. I am using flutter from last 3.5 years

  • @lululemon0424
    @lululemon0424 Месяц назад +87

    if you install al dente, there is a very nice chart to show you how much power goes into battery, how much goes to Mac itself. you will immediately know whether your charging method provides enough juice to the system.

    • @ThePC007
      @ThePC007 Месяц назад

      Do both the free and the paid versions have that feature?

    • @shapelessed
      @shapelessed Месяц назад

      ​@ThePC007 No.

    • @gergelygombai4530
      @gergelygombai4530 Месяц назад +1

      I prefer BatFi, I find the free version be better

    • @lululemon0424
      @lululemon0424 Месяц назад

      @@gergelygombai4530 i heard BatFi might damage the battery somehow (i’m not sure) and i have already bought the paid version of Al Dente.

    • @briangman3
      @briangman3 Месяц назад

      Al dentie is great

  • @TrollerSK
    @TrollerSK Год назад +57

    I have a second monitor that has 60W power delivery and always thought to myself that it is quite low, and sometimes I saw battery dips when I was doing demanding tasks for CPU+GPU like you said. I wanted to switch to magsafe for this very reason but I did not know that the Mac switches to MagSafe when you connect two power supplies. Thank you for testing it!

  • @haivanhuynh
    @haivanhuynh Год назад +174

    so many people praise magsafe but don't use it. of course they're going to drive Apple to remove it yet again. fwiw, i use it exclusively.

    • @antondubkov
      @antondubkov Год назад +4

      even when you connect your mac to a monitor at home/work via usb-c which also charges it, so you connect both usb-c and (redundant in this case) mag-safe?

    • @VincentLeong-bb4vn
      @VincentLeong-bb4vn 4 месяца назад +9

      There is only 1 reason why I use MagSafe almost every time. I want my USB-C ports free for my SSD, and Sidecar display, and sometimes for a Mic and Camera as well. I use an M2 MacBook Air and there are only 2 ports. MagSafe is also a more satisfying way to charge your MacBook because of how easy it is to attach the cable and the indicator lights that tell you when to unplug in case you leave the lid closed.

    • @rnwy600
      @rnwy600 Месяц назад

      it's been a while since you wrote this comment but I still want to reply from a different perspective, with all due respect.
      honestly, I much prefer to have the MagSafe port exchanged for another Type-C.
      I'm using my MacBook Air in a slightly complicated work environment where I have to connect a USB mouse, an external display via HDMI, an external SSD, an ethernet cable and also have to charge my phone time to time. now add on top of that the fact that I don't want to carry my main MagSafe cable around just for the work, so I need a different charging setup at work for convenience purposes.
      since a new MagSafe 3 cable costs a hefty $65 in my country where I only make about $625 a month, I have to use a Type-C to Type-C cable; which I struggled a lot doing so because there are only 2 ports.
      I eventually made it work with a USB hub which does all the things I want (it connects my monitor + mouse + SSD + it charges my Mac with 22W) and a Type-C adapter for ethernet. but if there was another Type-C port instead of the MagSafe 3 port, I could've done these with much less effort; f.e. my SSD could've run at full speed, or my home monitor could've run at full 1440p 165 Hz because I could connect it via a direct HDMI to Type C cable, or I could've charged my MacBook from a different port with more consistent power (that 22W drops to 8W when I try to charge my phone too) etc. etc... it could've opened a lot of opportunities, just one more Type-C port instead of a charge-only port. for charging speeds: since USB PD 3.1 supports up to 240W, I don't think it would've been a necessary problem.
      I hope Apple gets rid of MagSafe 3 on MacBooks and replaces it with another Type-C, as much as it's iconic, it takes a lot of functionality away.

    • @Taxiway_Alpha
      @Taxiway_Alpha Месяц назад +3

      @@antondubkov Why would you assume that everyone uses an external display?

    • @antondubkov
      @antondubkov Месяц назад +7

      @@Taxiway_Alpha where did you see the word “everyone” in my comment, it’s a question to the OP

  • @franklynseabra
    @franklynseabra Месяц назад +28

    One year later, is there a follow up video about it?

    • @maximyarmolik1726
      @maximyarmolik1726 23 дня назад +3

      i believe that in another video he mentioned that it had no affect

    • @franklynseabra
      @franklynseabra 23 дня назад

      @@maximyarmolik1726 thanks

  • @markmansur9268
    @markmansur9268 Год назад +130

    Solution = vim

    • @KelvinKMS
      @KelvinKMS Год назад +1

      What is that?

    • @diracflux
      @diracflux Год назад

      @@KelvinKMS vim is the most awesome screen-based text editor (some may disagree with this). vim is "Vi IMproved", a clone of vi, a name derived from the shortest unambiguous abbreviation for the ex command "visual".

    • @web
      @web Год назад +1

      I recently got suggested helix. After almost two decades of vimming I switched

    • @diracflux
      @diracflux Год назад

      @@web Helix looks interesting.

    • @michaelsegal3558
      @michaelsegal3558 Год назад +1

      What’s vim?

  • @TomaszBzymek
    @TomaszBzymek Год назад +45

    I own the M1 Max for over a year (bought at the release). I always used MagSafe. Never charged it differently. My battery also shows 87%. What I've noticed with mine - is a few things that weren't optimized and caused CPU temp rise close to 100 degrees. Since then I've started using TG Pro with settings that turn my fans when temps rise above 70 degrees and I think it helps the battery and the laptop is just slightly louder (only during heavy-duty tasks)

    • @m1ar1vin
      @m1ar1vin Год назад +1

      Are those 70 degrees Celsius or Fahrenheit?

    • @TomaszBzymek
      @TomaszBzymek Год назад +13

      @@m1ar1vin As most of the world after 1960 I use Celsius ;)

    • @m1ar1vin
      @m1ar1vin Год назад

      @@TomaszBzymek Thank you, just making sure ;)

  • @jayzn1931
    @jayzn1931 Месяц назад +10

    Charging with higher wattage is commonly known to be worse for battery health, I don‘t see why this should be an exception here. I see the Macbook preferring the magsafe for two simple reasons: -higher power -dedicated charging port.

    • @ILoveTelecasters
      @ILoveTelecasters 18 дней назад +1

      Sure, but if you end up charging the machine slower than the battery drains, you end up using battery power

    • @jayzn1931
      @jayzn1931 18 дней назад

      @@ILoveTelecasters You do that anyway, as the power is „passed through“. You can see this by looking in the battery health settings or using third party apps. I have used my Macbook for a few months now almost exclusively plugged in, and the battery degrades. It cannot bypass the battery.

    • @nathandias6771
      @nathandias6771 6 дней назад

      ​@@jayzn1931 The problem with always plugged in batteries is that they naturally lose charge to 99% then get recharged to 100% right away, degrading part of the cells. It's inevitable, even if you can bypass the battery, because the system will connect to it when the charge eventually drops. The only solution is removing the battery altogether.

    • @jayzn1931
      @jayzn1931 6 дней назад

      @@nathandias6771 Modern systems should be smart enough to prevent this.
      Also there was a time I was using my macbook very regularly a few days in a row and the macbook kept the charge capped at 80% because of optimised charging.
      If I use it on battery power for a few charging cycles, I know the battery stat will go up again.

  • @Sasoon2006
    @Sasoon2006 Год назад +25

    You can measure how much energy magsafe is giving in by putting that measuring device on other side of magsafe cable (between cable and brick).

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  Год назад +6

      nice idea!

    • @neetop1557
      @neetop1557 Год назад

      Or just using standard power outlet power meter, power drawn should be close to power output (some losses will occur obvs).

    • @TheodoroChristopher
      @TheodoroChristopher Год назад

      So can you measure please:)?

    • @SIRybka
      @SIRybka Год назад

      Or just install Coconut Battery. You can see how many watts are either being charged or being used based on if you're plugged in or not.

    • @neetop1557
      @neetop1557 Год назад

      @@SIRybka yeah, I'm surprised he doesn't use battery/power tracking apps already.

  • @PeterEmery
    @PeterEmery Месяц назад +4

    AlDente Pro on my 15-in M3 MacBook Air tells me there's no difference in charging rate when using the Mac's charger connected via USB-C or via MagSafe 3. I specified the 70W charger with my M3.

    • @kevinmensah5785
      @kevinmensah5785 24 дня назад

      I think my cycle count is moving faster because im not using MagSafe. Considering switching to using the MagSafe charger. I had a usb c charger from my old Mac and didn't want to break open a new charger

  • @FreakyDudeEx
    @FreakyDudeEx Год назад +6

    its heat... its not the charging method... since you charge and do work and still gaining battery percentage, it means the power draw from the wall is more than the power used by the SoC.... but it does not take into account the heat generated by everything in the enclosed space and the heat generated by charging the battery.... its also probably the usb hub fault... its not using the correct handshake to monitor the battery temps and just shoving it more power when its temps are too high... you need to plug out the cables and plug back in to reset the handshake and correct the charging values every now and then so it could refresh the charging handshake since probably the usb hub does not relay the information both ways so the wall adaptor could adapt and lower the wattage when needed to prevent battery over heat....

  • @bryans8656
    @bryans8656 Год назад +10

    Thanks for the tip. I've been mostly charging my M2 MBA using thunderbolt out of convenience. Just to be on the safe side I'm going to use magsafe more often, even if this problem turns out to apply to the high powered MBAs only.

    • @Mr123Nikola
      @Mr123Nikola Год назад +1

      I don’t think it will cause any problems on a mba due to its lower power processor. Just make sure you are using a certified brick for the charging and none of the cheap crap you find out there.

    • @VincentLeong-bb4vn
      @VincentLeong-bb4vn 4 месяца назад +1

      I think the condition he is describing is only applicable to the 16-inch MacBook Pros which can be charged up to 140W. For all other models, USB-C can still charge the machines at full speed as long as your cable and power adapter allows it.

  • @giomxx
    @giomxx Год назад +20

    You can use your USBC power meter with magsafe by plugging it into the power brick end.
    You can also use coconut battery to see how much power your macbook is taking over time, wether it's coming from battery or not too.
    from what I understand of MagSafe 3, it's just a proprietary implementation on USB PD, so there wouldn't be any difference between that and using the thunderbolt ports.

    • @lazyman1011
      @lazyman1011 Месяц назад

      Makes no difference what port you use. Except working while plugged in.

  • @atorbtech
    @atorbtech Год назад +15

    Awesome content as always 👍🏻

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  Год назад +3

      Appreciate it!

  • @MrSoopah
    @MrSoopah Год назад +4

    Not sure if the theory holds. I use my M1 Max MBP almost exclusively via USB C, most of the time with a 60W charger, sometimes with a 100W charger and rarely with the 140W Apple Charger via Magsafe. High Power Mode as well. 16 Cycles, 98% Max Capacity according to Coconut Battery. The computer is 12 months old.

  • @matts7327
    @matts7327 Год назад +5

    1:49 Is that the icon for the VS Code nightly edition? That might explain why it has leaks or issues.

    • @hassan7569
      @hassan7569 Месяц назад +2

      nah, that's green, this is a custom icon

  • @diegotertomartins8240
    @diegotertomartins8240 Год назад +4

    Another thing to consider is the size of your machine. If I am not mistaken, the 14” can use the fast charge either way (thunderbolt or MagSafe), on the 16” it doesn’t happen. Only MagSafe get the full wall brick output.

  • @DarkAngel56666
    @DarkAngel56666 Год назад +2

    The Mac will simply ALWAYS prefer the solution providing the most energy that is currently plugged in, and only drain energy from once source at a time.
    So as Magsafe is 140W from your brick (and as Apple used USB PD through the USB C, thus limited to 100W) Magsafe will always be preferred when plugged in.
    Try to connect a 100W adapter through USB C and a 60W adapter from magsafe and you'll see that the USB C charger will remain in use and the Magsafe one will be unused.

  • @sveinjohansen6271
    @sveinjohansen6271 Год назад +4

    Ive only been using magsafe on my M1 max from april 2022 and its at 93% health, and Im using it heavy every day. It sits mostly on my desk connected to magsafe, and something like 2 times a week its on the road with me for meetings. I have it connected to a 4k monitor through HDMI which changes signal into displayport for 4k 60hz on my monitor (older 40 inch 4k monitor). Not sure how many hours i get now, but I can say in full speed mode, I can work a full day in the office without plugging it in and still have 20-30% left when I get home. For me its vscode, chrome and simulator that eats most battery.

  • @LuigiSalemme
    @LuigiSalemme Год назад +4

    One of the issues is that Apple's Optimised battery charging is a bit flawed, every time you disconnect the laptop from the charger or change the way you use it a bit, it needs time to understand when to stop charging it and will keep pushing it to 100%. I use AlDente to keep my battery from charging over 80% when working at my desk, and let the battery discharge to ~20% once a month. Might be worth checking out

    • @agj03921
      @agj03921 Год назад

      I also use AlDente.
      Tell me: did your battery degraded?
      Battery capacity?

    • @LuigiSalemme
      @LuigiSalemme Год назад +1

      @@agj03921 On my old MacBook I got down to 87% health in 1.5 years relying only on Apple's optimised battery charging. Since I got my M2 Max I've been using AlDente, still very early to say anything but I'm at 100% health.

    • @agj03921
      @agj03921 Год назад

      @@LuigiSalemme thank you, Luigi 👍

  • @mobiledevlife
    @mobiledevlife Месяц назад

    I charged my M1 Max only through MagSafe for 1 year, took good care of the battery, sometimes using it on battery, sometimes on cable, like very careful ... it still dropped to 87% :(

  • @synen
    @synen Год назад +2

    VIM is energy efficient 🤓

  • @vinisasso
    @vinisasso 5 дней назад

    My MacBook Air M1 doesn't have a MagSafe port - Thunderbolt is the only option. I only use the charger that Apple bundled with the machine, and its bundled cable. I use my laptop like a desktop in my home office - I rarely run the machine on battery, but when I occasionaly do that, the battery lasts around 7 hours - seems fine. And while I do let the machine turned off without charging once in a while, it is usually connected to power. I have seen no issues for now - it will be 3 years with it soon. But there's one kind of charging I don't trust a lot, which is charging with a thunderbolt hub (I've got one from Baseus) that does Power Delivery. Some people say that using a hub is fine, but I suppose it's the same as relying on the thunderbolt port alone, or maybe it doesn't charge as quickly - the Power Delivery might be slower than the machine's capacity. So I basically don't use that because I am affraid it won't charge as quickly or even damage the battery's lifespan in the long run. Thanks for the useful info. Next time I buy a Mac, I'll look for a machine with the MagSafe port.

  • @benjaminwestcott5622
    @benjaminwestcott5622 3 дня назад

    I have only used the MagSafe on both my Air and Pro.
    I’ve bothered the Air tends to have better battery life, but I do tend to do less intensive tasks than on my Pro.
    My MacBook Air tends to last around 19 hours and my MacBook Pro around 13.

  • @BeyondOneSoul
    @BeyondOneSoul Год назад +2

    I think you could measure MagSafe plugging that device directly to the charger and then plug the MagSafe cable to the output of the device?

  • @jseden
    @jseden 29 дней назад

    I use MagSafe like 95% of the time.. C is just a backup if I need it and don’t have the MagSafe cable with me. TBH I kinda hate USBC, especially as a charge port after my 12” MacBook.
    Also I use aldente and I still see 100+% battery health&capacity after 8 months and ~80 cycles.

  • @blackcatooow
    @blackcatooow 22 дня назад

    it doesnt matter if you use c or MagSafe, apples c to c is usually rated for 240watts as long as your wall brick can support 90 or 100 its fine.
    the reason the brick they provide with the max is 140w is probably to allow use at full power while also charging the battery relativelyquickly. I have an unbinned m2 pro and the max I've seen it draw was maybe 65 or 70 watts (using AlDente to monitor) and it comes with a 91w wall brick

  • @VladimirBezuglyi
    @VladimirBezuglyi Месяц назад

    It's irrelevant would you use MagSafe or straight USB-C to charge.
    Smaller 14" macbook pros don't even get the powerfull enough chargers (120/140W) that you get with 16" macbooks.
    I guess sole purpose of Apple to promote using magsafe as a faster option to charge (on USB-C you can't charge with more than 96W power output) is to sell magsafe cables (theory) or to be sure that nothing will go wrong because only they are producing magsafe cable whereas with USB-C cable no one knows what kind of crappy cable someone would use potentially causing problems. Also current magsafe is same USB-C reversible charging cable just with one fancy end, same wire count and same PD specification. All in all it's not the charging port what is in controll, it's BMC on the battery that is in charge of the battery charging.
    Also what mostly kills battery is charging it constantly to 100%, it is best to charge to 80% when constantly sitting connected (thanks, macOS keeps track of macbook usage and predicts when to charge fully and when to charge only to 80% capacity.)

  • @danielkemmet2594
    @danielkemmet2594 7 дней назад

    For what it's worth. An anker 250W USB-C cable on the apple charging block will deliver 140W to the mac.

  • @abdullahyahya2471
    @abdullahyahya2471 Месяц назад

    I see you were using a usb hub to transfer power, how about using a High Quality 2 meter cable from Baseus as compared to Magsafe cable? I use USB type C cable because I also use the Macbook 70W Adapter to charge my Windows Laptop and my Phone and somehow the 70W macbook Adapter charges them with Best wattage.

  • @lumpython5351
    @lumpython5351 21 день назад

    Oh shit, I’ve never used megsafe since day one I got the MBP, I always use Type-C cable connected to the Dell monitors, not one, but two, both output 90w of power delivery and I thought it was fine.

  • @MrMurray88mph
    @MrMurray88mph Месяц назад

    I would be curious in a comparison between MacOs Big sur and Ventura/Sonoma. With OpenCore Legacy on an 2015 MPB 15", the battery life has become embarassing. I think mr Cook quietly jacked up the power consumption to give some ageing to the good old m1 macs.

  • @soknatchan3675
    @soknatchan3675 14 дней назад

    Hello brother, My MacBook M1 Pro 16inch have issue with MagSafe Charger, can I charge with usb-c ? and it's effect to battery or not?

  • @zakkzahariev4637
    @zakkzahariev4637 Год назад +3

    So I have an M1Max 64GB Ram. I bought it about 8 months ago and I use it for audio production and video editing almost every day. Since I have also of perifferals I use and external CalDigit TB3 dock which has an external power supply. For the past 8 months I have been mainly keeping the computer plugged it through the day and using the e TB3 port to charge. The result is that I am at 95% Maximum Capacity. Keeping it at Auto Mode.
    Now I am starting to use the MagSafe more and I am testing out AlDente, which allows me to keep the maximum charge at 80% and can discharge the battery. Let's see in 8 more months.

    • @AxelSpark
      @AxelSpark 18 дней назад +1

      Could you provide some updates after one year, please?

    • @lespieces
      @lespieces 10 дней назад

      plz

  • @AttilaSulyok
    @AttilaSulyok Месяц назад

    Hello there! Usually how do you use your MacBook Pro? Do you leave it all day in charger? Do you shut down or sleep? Do you plug out the MagSafe when you don’t use it like at night?
    Thanks in advance!

  • @DojoOfCool
    @DojoOfCool Месяц назад +1

    I keep my MBP on the magsafe when I'm working and disconnect it when I'm done so not always on the charger. My gut feeling is Apple's battery management can control charging on Magsafe and might not be able to monitor control charging as much on USB-C. Both my MBP and my iPhone the Apple management shuts off charging at about 80% to preserve battery life. Also living in the desert it gets hot in my apartment and Apple battery management will shutoff charging if battery is getting too warm. So seeing all that makes me think the Magsafe give Apple more control of charging.

  • @mukhinuniverse
    @mukhinuniverse Год назад

    7 months, MagSafe only, 91%, I don't know what's wrong and if this case is still under guarantee(

  • @satysin630
    @satysin630 Год назад +4

    Yes the Mac will always pull from the power source with the most wattage (which is the MagSafe).
    If you're on USB-C PD (90-100W max) and you're doing heavy CPU and GPU work that needs >100W it will pull the extra from the battery and you will see the battery drop even while plugged in. This obviously causes additional wear on the battery for no good reason, if you know you're going to be doing heavy work and need more than 100W sustained then just use the MagSafe and keep your battery a little healthier.
    Also changing the energy mode to high power is of little benefit in my testing. Leave it on automatic and it will up the power levels when needed and more often than not lower them to low power about 90% of the time which means no loss of general system responsiveness but gives you a nice hour or so of battery life. I gave up trying to act smarter than the Apple power management engineers years ago and just leave power management to automatic now :)
    Honestly I kinda wish Apple removed those options from the settings UI. Changing them is rarely needed. I feel they should have put them in the pmset utility for those that *really* want/need them.

    • @tk42won
      @tk42won Год назад

      I think you have the right answer.
      Magsafe is literally a dedicated port to supply power. If the computer needs more power than what we are giving it, then it's going to use the battery. USB-C and everything we have connected with it can cause (I imagine) all sort of issues i.e. it draws from the battery to "keep up".
      That being said, I believe the "optimized battery"-setting is not doing what we expect it to do (if it works at all), which cause unnecessary "frustration".
      Apple should find a better way to communicate these issues.
      I recommend everyone to look at your comp maximum power draw (everything connected to it) and what you're feeding it.

    • @satysin630
      @satysin630 Год назад

      @@tk42won Optimised battery charging is just Apple's term for 80% threshold charging with some "AI" marketing crap thrown in (just usage pattern match at the end of the day). It is good to keep it left on as it does a decent job of not over charging your laptop if it doesn't need to be which will help long term.

    • @tk42won
      @tk42won Год назад

      @@satysin630 That's what I meant by "not doing what we expect it to do".
      Because mine is always at 100%. I have actually seen it discharge ( a long time ago before I removed the battery icon so I stopped looking at it and become annoyed) but it was an extremely rare thing. And yes, I've tried resetting it et cetera. *shrug*

    • @edc1569
      @edc1569 Год назад

      There’s no way that chassis can deal with 80W of dissipation for even a few seconds, the high power supply rating is to allow for rapid charging.

    • @supercellex4D
      @supercellex4D Месяц назад

      @@edc1569 Yeah it can, that's what high-power mode engages. The gaming laptop fans.

  • @UTJK.
    @UTJK. 25 дней назад

    You makearbitrary assumptions. It could prefer magsafe over usb-c because of the two, that's the charging only option.

  • @ivanmilov
    @ivanmilov Месяц назад

    @AZisk have you tried apps like BatFi or Aldente to keep battery state on ~80% and consume only energy from adapter or usb-hub?

  • @the_nomadic_ajith
    @the_nomadic_ajith Год назад

    My M1 Macbook Pro, after 1 year of use in Indian weather
    Cycle Count: 221
    Condition: Normal
    Maximum Capacity: 87%

  • @realgreencookie
    @realgreencookie 23 дня назад

    A programmers ide that’s sapping up all the battery when on idle.
    Just go use open source folks! It’s worth the pain!!

  • @Koorczuu
    @Koorczuu Год назад +1

    I think that macsafe is first choice for apple because if you plug in some usb c cable with less power chargong or display with usb c macos could not recognize charging source properly.

  • @gavinw4165
    @gavinw4165 Месяц назад

    I didn't even know that I could charge my MacBook with anything but the provided cable I am surprised

  • @noble_lime
    @noble_lime Месяц назад

    Just use a 65 -70 watt adapter if on air with good 100 watt cable or 140 watt type c charger if on macbook pro with 200 watt capable cable

  • @kenvererer
    @kenvererer Год назад

    I don’t buy it. The chip itself (on the M1 Max) has a maximum power draw of 40 watts.
    The rest of the 140 watt charger is for peripherals (monitors etc) and fast charging. You don’t need fast charging and your Thunderbolt dock is providing power to peripherals.
    45 watts might not be enough but 65 should be and 80+ definitely is.

  • @lazyman1011
    @lazyman1011 Месяц назад

    Makes no change which port you use. Except working while plugged in should be deliver more power than you use.

  • @Kayserjp
    @Kayserjp 26 дней назад

    I use 100w usb-c charger for my m1 max macbook. Still Battery 99% in two years use.

  • @vrajpatel3139
    @vrajpatel3139 Год назад +1

    here I am getting around 7.5 hour m1bp {77 cycle count 100% capacity } but on Monterey I was getting around 8.5 / 9 hours , Ventura is indeed is main culprit

  • @espritdautomne
    @espritdautomne 8 месяцев назад

    vs-code, like its monolithic counterpart visual studio, is a bloated piece of microsoft garbage and yes, it takes a lot of resource. Used it for like 10 minutes then went back to my dev c++ and geany.

  • @himanshonmac7443
    @himanshonmac7443 Год назад

    it's not vs code (On Brine... machine ) It was not Text editor it is ide.
    It's official paid ide from microsoft for c/c++/java/... With compiler

  • @fernandomiguelcarmonacasan4666
    @fernandomiguelcarmonacasan4666 10 дней назад

    I dont know how you guys can live with more than 10 tabs open on ANY browser

  • @masudimran7868
    @masudimran7868 Год назад +2

    I also noticed the battery drain with VS Code and Skype, usually when I am not working on development( using vs code ) or joining long meeting battery lasts much longer. But in recent times VS code drain seemed to have increased quite a bit, I tried reinstalling it recently but I do not notice any improvements.

  • @dennismunsie2161
    @dennismunsie2161 Год назад +2

    I personally love MagSafe, but most of the time I use my laptops at one of four places docked, which also provides power at the same time. Add in the amazing battery life of these things, and I rarely find myself using MagSafe at all. But if I do need to charge while out, that’s what I have in my bag.

    • @antondubkov
      @antondubkov Год назад

      that's the most sensible use, I do the same

  • @Cooper3312000
    @Cooper3312000 Месяц назад

    I’m fine without MagSafe, data and charging through usbc is idea one cable solution.

  • @frostgodx
    @frostgodx Год назад +2

    MagSafe always overrides anything else plugged which seems to make sense to this theory.
    The wattage is exactly why you can’t have a high power mode on the 14” since it’s hard limited to 96watts no matter what’s plugged in you simply can’t pull more wattage to the chip.
    Reason the 38-core graphics on a 14” is about 15% lower then a 16” version. The juice isn’t there. So take the 96w brick to an m2 max 38 gpu 16” and boom you’ll see under heavy load your battery DOES in fact drain a few % before going back up. (Side note 38-core runs cooler then the 30 in the new 14” because it’s the first time it’s hard throttled via software/hardware limitation. Less use = less heat so the folks saying don’t get the 38 in a 14 it’s a hot mess are incorrect it’s better than the 30 in my testing)
    Of course you need a sustained load of over 5mins straight to do this but you will in fact find it.

    • @iforgot3942
      @iforgot3942 Год назад

      The MagSafe charging port “over rides” the Thunderbolt4 port when using both the Magsafe cable & a Thunderbolt4 connected self powered dock (96watt OWC 11 port)
      for the power source/charging?
      I’m trying to figure out if it is safe to use my Apple Magsafe 140w power brick while using a 96watt self powered dock at the same time.
      Thanks.

    • @frostgodx
      @frostgodx Год назад +1

      @@iforgot3942 correct, if you plug both in it will only charge and use the MagSafe and ignore/not take power delivery from the input on the thunderbolt port.

  • @bobbastian760
    @bobbastian760 Месяц назад

    Get a better USB charger - chargers with multiple 140W ports are available.

  • @klindickristijan
    @klindickristijan 3 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for the great videos, I love them 🎉

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  3 месяца назад

      thanks 🤩

  • @deniskfender
    @deniskfender Месяц назад

    Можно было замерить зарядку магсейф через тайп-с в районе чарджера!
    У меня 90 вт что с обычным тайп-с, что с магсейвом.
    Кажется, что надо попробовать aldente чтобы ограничить заряд 80 процентами. Это должно заметно улучшить здоровье литьевой батареи

  • @testingcoder
    @testingcoder Год назад

    My mac m2 pro, mostly used with MagSafe and while connected. Afer around 9 month of use the battery capacity is 93%. I am afraid that's fairly typical for batteries :(

    • @testingcoder
      @testingcoder Год назад

      even though I mostly use it connected it suggests cycle count was 29 O.O

  • @patrick_ita00
    @patrick_ita00 Месяц назад

    I also spoke to apple about this. They told me to charge it with 140W always

  • @crearg8259
    @crearg8259 Год назад +1

    If this is 2015, I will definitely still the fan of MagSafe. But after so many years with external hub with PD, I’m ok with both. Probably MagSafe in Laptop mode and 100W PD Hub in clamshell mode.

  • @dsimon3004
    @dsimon3004 Месяц назад

    I started using Arc instead of Chrome and the difference in CPU usage is huge!!

  • @el_manu_el_
    @el_manu_el_ Год назад

    I'm trying one of those charge limiter apps because it seems batteries age better if working below 80%. I've been using the AlDente app for a few weeks... Does anyone use a charge limiter and saw any difference? The battery health on my M1 Pro MBP is around 93% after 7 months, mostly plugged via Thunderbolt to my monitor... So I'm also going to use MagSafe primarily. I didn't know it turned off USB-C!

  • @bobbastian760
    @bobbastian760 Месяц назад

    Get a voltmeter for the plug socket, this will tell you how much draw magsafe has

  • @0versun0
    @0versun0 Год назад

    mag safe, m1pro+(extended GPU core, 96w included power charger ) daily huge power consumption tasks - 3 to 60 hours non stop Blender3D rendering GPU+CPU or CPU/GPU only(almost every day) since august 2022 till now(2023 April) 91% battery health, almost all the time plunged in to the charger(stationary usage)

    • @mamalora9
      @mamalora9 Год назад

      when you plugged in, what is your battery percentage? mine was 100% but it said that use the power adapter, fully charged

  • @anon_369x
    @anon_369x Год назад +1

    Hello, good sir. I just switched from windows to Mac OS. I am a fresh MacBook user and I am currently watching videos on how to properly take care of my device. There are lot of things that I need to know, I guess, but there is one thing that I wanna know for sure, for now - which is the best method when you are not using for MacBook: 1. just close the lid; 2. put it on sleep mode; or 3. shut it down? I really hope that you'll notice this comment. Thank you.

    • @Kitulous
      @Kitulous 9 дней назад

      just close your lid

  • @NN010
    @NN010 Год назад +1

    Yeah, I'm not sure about this one. I've almost exclusively been charging using the MagSafe cable & after 8 months my 14" M1 Pro MacBook Pro is down to 87% of it's maximum capacity. So I don't think it's the USB-C thing. I do have a lot of Electron apps open on my Mac at any given time (VS Code, Spotify, Discord, Messanger), so that could be an issue. But it also could be a myriad of other factors...

  • @kaushalnasit
    @kaushalnasit Месяц назад +1

    To measure current on MagSafe port try it on the adapter side. It might be negative to indicate direction but should be more or less same amount if current

  • @SIYAKSARESAI
    @SIYAKSARESAI 6 месяцев назад +1

    Hey Alex, I've been following your content for a while now, and I absolutely love it! Your videos are always so informative and helpful. I've been thinking, it would be fantastic if you could create a comprehensive guide on using MacBooks. From simple tasks like closing the lid and charging to more advanced features, your expertise would definitely help a lot of people get the most out of their MacBooks. Looking forward to seeing more amazing content from you!

  • @PFLX113
    @PFLX113 Месяц назад

    Use coconut Battery to Look how fast its charging with MagSafe

  • @technsem3362
    @technsem3362 Год назад

    so far loving your channel. New here and you juts got a sub from me

  • @niktheoblivious
    @niktheoblivious Год назад

    on my PC vs code used 60% cpu!! crazy!! (my pc is brand new!)

  • @vctr.dumitru
    @vctr.dumitru Год назад

    this is not the case. i have an M1 macbook pro max and only use the 140W apple charger with magsafe and i'm in the situation you described. down to 88% battery health after 6 months 109 charge cycles

    • @vctr.dumitru
      @vctr.dumitru Год назад

      also the battery never lasts over 6 hours when i'm working. phpstorm, docker, chrome with tons of tabs, local servers, brightness to 100...

  • @X99Zero
    @X99Zero Год назад

    My optimized charging used to work where it would keep the battery at 80% charge and I think after one of the OSX updates it stopped doing that and now it always charges to 100%. I am also noticing that battery started more rapidly to degrade and now its at 90%. Solution anyone to enable optimized charging again?

    • @abb0tt
      @abb0tt Год назад

      I used AlDente Pro, mentioned in a few comments here. They have documented battery optimization recommendations using their app on their website. I'm not affiliated.

  • @sonodima
    @sonodima Год назад +1

    I have been using a 10C M1 Pro for 13 months, and the battery is now at 87%.
    I usually just hit the CPU really hard during my workflow, and I am also using an OWC TB dock with 60W to charge it.

  • @mendodave
    @mendodave 2 месяца назад +1

    I’m not understanding why everyone uses chrome. Seems like it has a few major issues to me like being a resource hog and Google scraping your usage in the background.

  • @doctor9228
    @doctor9228 Год назад

    I use MagSafe just because i like the feeling when you connect it :)

  • @Nithinyadavg
    @Nithinyadavg 5 дней назад

    then what hell for macbook Air M1

  • @Idonotexist-k4l
    @Idonotexist-k4l 16 дней назад

    0:30 this whole video is sus including the thumbnail

  • @2account134
    @2account134 Год назад

    This video should not be longer than 2 mins. A lot of useless information

  • @joedon1706
    @joedon1706 Год назад

    Macsafe is the most piss poor charging port ever invented. Dog piss.

  • @NicolasSilvaVasault
    @NicolasSilvaVasault Год назад

    vscode is the chrome of sucking up both ram and energy

  • @yamdoitsh9880
    @yamdoitsh9880 Год назад

    using higher power to keep your battery safe?
    yeah that’s not right

  • @repentandliveholy
    @repentandliveholy Месяц назад

    It is Sequoia which drains a battery

  • @KayanushPatel
    @KayanushPatel 5 месяцев назад +1

    Any update video to this?

  • @JBoy340a
    @JBoy340a Год назад +1

    Interesting. I have never even unwrapped the Magsafe charging cable or charger that cawe with my M1 and M2 MBPs. I USB-C charge all the time since I have USB-C chargers and cables in most rooms of my home/office. So far no issue with the battery drain, but the M1 does drain noticeably faster than the M2. Perhaps I can get by with this because I buy the base MBP models and usually have a just a few projects under development because my brain needs a memory upgrade.

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  Год назад +1

      😆 it may also have to do with my heavy use of the gpu+cpu

  • @jpedrothejo
    @jpedrothejo Месяц назад

    why dont u use the built in screen recorder on Mac?

  • @mxrius1739
    @mxrius1739 Месяц назад

    I have a MacBook M2 Pro and it's 1,5 years old and still has 98%. I run it on a daily basis and it still manages to keep up. I play a lot through crossover and other heavy workloads and my 67w Charger is sufficient for most of the time. I also got a 100 Watt charger but I really recommend using al dente. Even the free version provides a charging limit to 80 percent. it's great when using the MacBook a lot on charge. but its also important to get your battery to 20-30% and then recharging. Staying on a constant charge isn't good for the battery either but a healthy mix of driving your mb on a power brick and draining its charge sometimes really keeps your battery healthy. at least in my experience.

  • @MikeDold
    @MikeDold Год назад

    First time at this channel and Jesus how does this guy look AND sound like Liev Schreiber lol

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  Год назад

      first time anyone ever said that