Rebutting Genesis Apologetics - Debunking John n Jane 12o12
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- Rebutting Genesis Apologetics = Debunking John n Jane 12o12
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Boy the irony of John calling that Dodo bird stupid.
He’s projecting his qualities into an extinct pigeon. How pathetic.
You don't listen very well, do you?
@@addcart7651
What did he not listen to?
The dodo was not wilfully stupid.
@@thakraken6995 John technically said he's been looking at other people calling the Dodo stupid. The joke is still funny in my book though
Note that, while often being accused of being an arrogant man, Aron knows what he doesn't know and enlists the help of experts to bolster his own wide ranging knowledge. The accusers however avoid experts and pretend they know everything because they have read one book.
Come now, be fair
They also sometimes enlist the help of other people.....that have also read the one book
Well said!
@@kenbee1957 And sometimes (often) they don't even read more than a small fraction of the book!
I don't believe it can be helped lol
@@Selcryn 1 cherry picked verse at a time
My favorite thing about this series is how 2 teen "actors" can debunk
Evolutionary Biology
Geology
Paleontology
Astrophysics
Cosmology
Organic Chemistry
And much more, with their words. WOW!!!
Another of those things have actually found evidence supporting the Bible.
@Account NumberEight I think I might actually have heard something about them being teens. They just look weirdly old.
Aron said at one point that "Jane" was 16 when filming those segments. John has not been tracked down to our knowledge. So, at least half the cast are teens indeed (teensdeed?)
@@fortissears5388teen SIN deed. Haha gottem
“Kinda makes you think, doesn’t it?”
As if creationists knew how to think critically.
And being said by people who're fobbed to think.
As ex creationist, I can confirm this.
They pretty much admit as such, Just have faith in the holy book are lines that are literally said by that crowd
or just how to think
If they could think critically they would not be creationists
Jane it's always just you.
so true
I have no idea what your voice sounds like but I could feel you pinching your nose as I read your comment.
And the other religious sycophants that are deluded just like her.
😄🤣😂😆😅😁
When I hear her say the word *"EVOLUTIONIST"* I just die inside. Honestly!
Exactly. There's no "evolutionism," there's just science.
@@Trainfan1055Janathan
True.
DUDE! I know what you mean! Every time I wince. Between her and Kent Hovind. Of course I could listen to a mixtape of Jane saying it vs KH.
When I hear the word "EVOLUTIONIST" I reach for my gun.
Edit:if someone sisn't understand, to shoot the person who uses it.
Do these clowns also call people who accept atomic theory Daltonists or Atomists?
Having been raised creationist and force-fed their crap for so much of my life, I really find these take-down videos cathartic. Thanks AronRa!
Having been raised atheist and not force-fed anything for my whole life so far, I really find these take-down videos cathartic. Thanks AronRa!
Atheists are a diverse bunch, and the fact that he hits that sweet spot, where he can reach so many of us, is really very impressive.
Satanism .
@@DawnHub666 👈🤣😂😂😈 ooooo scary! LMFAO!
@@DawnHub666 BOOGA BOOGABOOGA
@@DawnHub666 What the hell....?😆
I made a meme defending dodos on Tumblr.
Humans: *drive the dodos to extinction*
Those exact same humans: Why would their own stupidity do this?
Thanks AronRa and Dr Baker for combating scientific illiteracy.
I don't believe in neither science nor religion. I believe in Satan and anarchy.
Iv done a ton research on evolution and see no proof.
@@Perroden Then you havent done a ton of research on evolution
@@Perroden then you either didn't actually look, or choose not to see. If you honestly researched evolution, you would no longer deny it
@@Perroden Yea,and I defecate gold and can simultaneously pet every cat on Earth all at once. And can stand the taste of cilantro. Strawmanning something doesn't mean you've studied it.
John and Jane referring to the dodo bird as stupid, says something about pots and kettles.
Kinda makes me think.
The irony of them ending each video with "kind of makes you think" gets me every time.🤣
Edit: Just saw the post credit scene. I think I speak for everyone when I say your dog should co-host with you from now on.
His dog understands science better than Jon and Jane.
Thank you, I had stopped watching when the list of Patreon donators started so missed the dog.
@@Foolish188 I would have too expect for typing my comment while it still played.
@@Foolish188: The dog is very lovely and worth seeing - as is Aron melting & cooing over it.
Golden Retriever or Great Pyrenees?
Can confirm the chicken neck bends just like that.. If she died on her side .. I've found couple of em like that cuz rats ate the crop after death. (The pouch birds have that grinds up the food it in the throat) if rats are not that hungry, like in summer, rats only eat the "best parts" and leave the rest..
That bend happens even more often with turkeys,(longer neck?) but one notices less because turkeys are less likely to just randomly die as adults.
Signed..
Off grid avian dinosaur rancher.
(So much cooler then "poultry farmer". )😎
I would so have business cards made to that effect.
Jane starting everyone of these videos by saying 'is it just me?' makes me want to yell 'yes!' despite too many people believing the way she does.
I knew I couldn't possible be the only one to think that. I'm sure there are a large chorus of us!
@@tkat6442 You could say, it's not just me. 😂
@@VersusMe101 Is it just me saying "yes"? NO!!! ;)
We really need the RUclips short of Jane saying, "is it just me?" and Aron Ra saying "YES!"😆
@@TirarADeguello And to that, What else is there to say but "YES!!"
19:26 I remember as a kid not understanding how god could know everything, but didn’t see the wickedness of man coming. Not one adult at church ever answered my question about that
A great series. I've enjoyed the "arguments" put forward by the 2 christian characters. Laughable and great to see the scientific reason why they are wrong delivered in a logical and sensible way!
Ra is exposing himself - showing why he is wrong.
He didn't provide evidence just hear say.
@@Perroden yes, hearsay you can research, and find a mountain of evidence. You have issues dude
Jane: is it just me or does Aron Ra look like a young Jehova?
This series kind of makes you think, doesn't it?
one would hope
Cue epic guitar solo
It makes me think how it is possible that such ignorance still exists just to defend an old crusty book of ancient myths. But at least we have people like AronRa to educate those who slept through or skipped school and does it in an entertaining way.
I recently succeeded in tempting a prolific "RUclips comment section creationist" to leave his comfort zone in order to engage in a written debate over email where he would have to back up his nonsensical claims. He seemed reluctant and took some convincing. I think we all know why.
I am a geneticist and first of all we focussed on the irrefutable genetic evidence for common descent. Throughout the exchange, he clearly didn't grasp the subject matter and could in no way back up his flimsy position, but kept on saying that "we don't come from monkeys". I, however, provided tons of evidence for evolution and supporting references / documents etc.
He gave up saying that he no longer had time for it all and that I was "making stuff up".
In spite of my best efforts, a month later, he is back in the comment sections of another video saying there is "no evidence whatsoever for evolution".
How depressing.
Kudos for the effort but tbh trolls are a lost cause. Imo better engage only with people who at least show some wish for an honest conversation. The typical troll is not interested in conversation, just confrontation.
There is an inherent barrier to accepting facts by many religious apologists. Reason 1: their social media and private discussions have so locked them into a position that they cannot psychologically acknowledge anything countering their claims. Reason 2: Many of these people were assiduously trained from early childhood to accept mythology as real. Reason 3: many of them simply enjoy being contrarians and no amount of fact will ever be acknowledged by them.
@@douglasrasmussen480 Indeed. Thanks, Douglas. This particular person appeared to have a nasty, antagonistic side and I thought it was time to bring him down a peg or two. All in vain, however.
@@pansepot1490 Yes, you are correct. I must resist the temptation to even engage with these loonies however much I find their condescending, downright idiotic posts offensive to professional scientists.
@@ajscuell7155 - I think I have locked horns with this person as well. Reason and facts are of no interest to him.
This is way off topic, but this video made me think of it.
I was a devout Mormon convert at the age of 12-13. I took the lessons to heart, and I even destroyed and threw out several dragon figurine knick-knacks because of it. It was painful to do, because I love fantasy stuff like that. For three years, I gave my all into the church.
All of the sudden, in a Sunday school class, the lesson was about the big bang theory and how it was God who caused it. Problem was, it suddenly did not make sense. What did not help was the previous week the lesson was if you are super devout and follow all the church expects of you, you eventually will become a god of your own planet, and this world's God did just that on some other world. It essentially broke my shelf (it's a term Mormon deconverts use). It made me look deeper into the church's own history and what I found make me regret those three years.
I learned the Mormon church is nothing more than a man worshiping cult that is under the guise of worshiping Christ. Seriously, Mormons worship Joseph Smith just as much if not more than Jesus or God, it is disturbing that most Mormons do not even realize they are doing it either as it was taught for them to do it over and over.
I am a god but I’m not a Mormon.
I’m Florida Man! Destroyer of Worlds and Eater of Faces!
I used to throw away alot of my old manga comics and stop watching certain shows due to my Christain pastor and family calling it witchcraft. Now that I'm in a better mindset mentally I buy manga and such like no problem
Did you get your dragon figurines back? I hope they are resplendent.
And that's fascinating: 'to break one's shelf'. For a set parlance to become commonplace, it takes a sizeable population to already exist...
Jesus is the Joseph Smith of Judaism. Started from within an established religion and he (and his successors) developed it into a whole new level of crazy.
Really funny how religions, like organisms, are subject to evolution, mutation and natural selection.
@@hypervious8878 About the "break one's shelf". That made me think of this video which is also about deconvertion: ruclips.net/video/kAIpRRZvnJg/видео.html I'm not sure if the youtuber was Mormon but it puts shelfs as believes in a very illustrative view. I highly recommend it (also all of his other videos!).
When Aron said that scientists like to entertain many competing hypotheses at the same time and progressively knock them down as new information becomes available, I suddenly just realized that the game of "Guess who?" is actually a REALLY good analogy for the Scientific method.
Each character is a hypothesis to explain a particular phenomenon, and every question we ask that gets answered is a test performed or observation made, progressively knocking down the characters/hypotheses that we now know aren't it. We can never get to a point where the universe says "Yes, that's my character and you win," but so long as we stick to the methodology, keep asking questions, and do our honest best to listen to the answers we get, then whatever characters we have left standing are *always* the closest to the truth that we have. When it comes to Crevo, it's safe to say that the character representing "God did it" got knocked down a long time ago, and now we're just trying to figure out whether the character representing evolution has freckles in specific places or not.
Entertaining a hypothesis is one thing, however, scientists will only ever test a single hypothesis at a time. To do otherwise would be to introduce confounding variables and it's crucially important to eliminate any uncontrolled/ uncontrollable variables when testing a hypothesis.
Nb: When testing a hypothesis, you don't attempt to prove that the hypothesis is correct; to do so would introduce the confounding variable commonly known as confirmation bias. The scientific method requires that you design an experiment that attempts to prove that your hypothesis is incorrect. So 'Yes,' in that regard, it IS a little bit like Guess Who, in that each experimental design that fails to disprove your hypothesis gets knocked down, like another character tile in Guess Who.
@@Raz.C true, but some times a single experiment or observation can invalidate several hypothesis at the same time.
Take the nature of the univers as an example, it was hypothesised that the univers could be in one of three states. Boiled down to either a steady state, expanding och contracting. Finding the redshifting of the light from remote galaxies showed that those galaxies are moving away from us at an accelarating pace the further away they are. This observation is incompatible with both a steady state univers and a contracting one thus invalidating both of those hypothesies in one go. That is not to say that that in it self proves that the univers will always expand just that is it expanding at this time and that it has been for some time.
BTW... this whole series has been very entertaining.
Kind of makes you think... about how ignorant a lot of creationists really are.
And how carefully they protect their ignorance from any facts that threaten it.
Also... not to harp on the point...
As you say "the story of Noah" basically says...
"God realized he'd made a big mistake and had to destroy everything and start over..."
Which, right there, debunks their entire idea of an omniscient or omnipotent God...
ANYTHING after that is just compounding basic silliness.
Kind of sad to see John and Jane go. It's been fun watching them get their asses handed to them. Another great series, done! Thanks, Aron 🍻
Was looking for some interesting debunking to watch since can't sleep. Perfect timing for the video to come out.
17:09 "[Theories] aren't thought-bubbles in a cartoon, like [John and Jane] are offering here."
Love that line!
35:12 Best part of the vid! Doggie!!
This collaboration is quite literally epic. I wish to see Dr Baker again on the channel
Much appreciated! Hope to be back
@@ageofrocks The two of you are wrestling tag team in the making. Mr Reason and Dr Logic.
Another important failure of The Flood is:
If the flood myth were true, then the flood waters would have covered the highest mountains, ie- the Himalayas. That means that the volume of the earth would have expanded by a radius of about 8Km. If you try to stretch the amount of atmosphere surrounding planet Earth across a sphere 16Km wider than the Earth, it becomes impossible for anyone to survive, even at sea-level. You can do the calculations for this yourself! It's surprisingly easy. The survivable altitude is 0 - 3Km above sea level, for an Earth with a radius of 6371 Km. So if you calculate the volume of a sphere with a radius of 6374 Km, then subtract a sphere with a radius of 6371Km, you have the volume of air on Earth (about a billion cubic meters of air). If you then divide this volume across the NEW volume of a sphere with a radius of 6379 Km, you'll find that any altitude over about 1 meter above sea level doesn't have enough air to keep a human alive, let alone a boat full of animals AND people!!
All the 'passengers' aboard the ark would have died from altitude sickness, which is just as well, since any survivors of this flood would have died from starvation afterwards, since there would be no plants for them to eat and any animal that they eat would become irreplaceably extinct. So even if they had a magical supply of oxygen aboard this ark, when they finally disembarked, the herbivores would all die of starvation within weeks and the carnivores would follow them within a matter of months. And then the only remaining being would be an incompetent God looking at a planet devoid of ALL plant and animal life, saying "OOOPS!!!!"
I've seen it claimed, apparently straight-facedly, that the mountains rose after the flood. Ahem. Just when you think they can't get any sillier.
Using science to argue against people who believe in magic is futile.
@@loki6626 "... and there lies the crux ..."
That means the likes of Kent Hovind are wrong - Noooooooh
"A little delayed action there."
For an event roughly 65 million years ago, a miscalculation of 300,000 years equates to about 0.0005% of that event's total time.
I think I see the appeal in young earth creationism. I mean, it's pretty easy: do no actual scientific research or study, sit back, let actual scientists do the footwork, then cherry pick their work to decide what supports your own stupid beliefs while dismissing everything else that doesn't by misrepresenting it in the most egregious and dishonest ways. So much easier than doing any actual work!
Once again, great take down of this vacuous tripe. Can't say I'll miss John and Jane, though, these two are so utterly cringe worthy.
Came for the science and religion-busting, stayed for the post-credit easter eggs
There's post credit Easter eggs?????
😳😳😳🙆🏽🙆🏽🙆🏽
@@kenbee1957 You'll have to watch and find out!
Ya atheists love Christians being made fun of and can't actually debate them with logic.
@@Perroden
Yes
🙂
@@Perroden there is no logic in religion. There is nothing but logic in science
Thanks for this series Aron!
I've learnt a lot of things. May be it would be a cool way to teach science in schools, debunking pseudoscience.
Thank you for the big finish. I've been waiting so long. The only problem is that I find myself agreeing with John in demanding justice for the Dodo. From the first time I saw the stuffed model in the natural history museum I've felt sympathy for them When I hear of plans for cloning prehistoric monsters who could drive us to extinction, I feel like yelling NO, clone the Dodo, clone the Thylacine. I keep wondering if any of those scientists have even seen a monster movie. So thanks again for this series. I hope there will be more.
The Tassie Tiger is well on it's way to coming back.
I’ve heard of plans to clone mammoths and release them in Siberia.
That doesn’t sound like a good idea to me.
@@dr.floridamanphd it would be sad to see them get poached for their ivory, yes
I had no idea about all the other birds as well. It actually makes the story of the dodo a legitimate tragedy, at least much bigger deal than the dated memes and running jokes from school text books.
Humans have killed and brought many species to extinction even in recent times such as the white rhino. The Dodo bird just joins the group of extinct animals ended by human hands.
www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/northern-white-rhino-extinct-two-minutes-digital-comback-180974295/
Were the cause of the sixth extinction event, humans are just that dominant of a species that most cant keep up
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction
😂🤣😅😏
John and Jane are dopes.
Do they not hear themselves?
"Look at this science, I use to disprove science".
Great episode you guys.
It's a cool format with you two bouncing of each other.
To be fair, only science can debunk or refute science.
Their only problem is they don’t know science in order argue against it.
And it’s any wonder how quickly creationists take up cryptozoology, as they seem to be under the impression that finding living non avian dinosaurs or any mythical creature would somehow disprove evolution.
I mean, what is God, but the king of all cryptids?
@@lnsflare1 holy shit he is, he even has all the hallmarks of cryptids. Only seen by the most deranged individuals of society, has tacked on magical powers, and two bit grifters who garner thousands if not billions of dollars from predominantly gullible, barely educated bellends who will buy their overpriced merchandise.
@@lnsflare1 not even close.
Iv done tons of research on evolution and found zero proof. They even built up one of our "ancestors" entirely off a foot print. How they ate, hunted lived ect.
@@Perroden how is god not a cryptid, as he has magical powers, only seen and interacted by people who aren’t playing with a full deck of cards like Kat Kerr, and assholes like Kirk Cameron, Ray Comfort, Ken Ham, Kennith Copeland who make millions of dollars from selling god to people. And like all cryptids, his influence is often used as an explanation for every mundane thing when in reality evidence of god is about as real as someone claiming to have psychic powers.
And the depiction of god and his behaviour varies wildly in America, a country that god supposedly loves the most. He’s either the god who makes shitty football teams win, the god of venture capitalism, the god of snake handling and screaming at the ceiling, the god who puts up magical anti hurricane barriers which ultimately fail when hurricanes hit, the god who gives con men magical powers and proclaim to regrow limbs, a god of accosting marginalized groups and breaking laws. Not too different how chupacabra is depicted, in Puerto Rico it’s depiction is a small reptilian humanoid, in the United States it ranges from a giant bat and a weird dog like creature. Not too surprising in a country that thinks witches are real and the earth is flat.
Great video AronRa thank you.
I worry about these actors and think that maybe they could have picked a better career.
Unless they actually believe this utter rubbish. If they do then 'Oh heck' there is some stupid in the god world.
Thumbs up.
The skit itself is pretty old, I’m sure they’ve moved on since then.
I can't see them getting any real acting jobs anytime soon. I honestly think they believe that utter rubbish.
@@suffist Great reply 'utter rubbish' is perfect at summarising this total nonsense.
@@juanjoyaborja.3054 Hopefully, and "repented" arrgghh cannot 'believe' I said that! Anyway moved on to actual science. Hopefully so they can see how wrong they or their script was! Thanks
The main difference between the Julian and Gregorian calendars is how leap years are determined, with the latter being more accurate.
The change in how the years were numbered had already happened well before that.
I'm noticing that more and more with each episode, John is sounding like Dave. Like I mean, he's annunciating words and putting a little squeak at the end of his sentences the same way Dave does. It's one of the most annoying parts of these videos once you notice it, and that's really saying something. I imagine Dave probably started telling this actor to more or less do an impression of him as time went on. Basically these actors amount to sock puppets for him, regardless of whether or not they actually believed what they were saying. Pretty dehumanizing.
Uploaded 36 seconds ago? Glad I wasn't able to sleep tonight.
Same
Yep!
On a completely different side note, comma it always confused me how a supreme God like being could create a universe but needed an old man and his family to build a big boat. Makes ya think.
Dr Baker's explanations are excellent. He's a great science communicator.
It's nice when creationists debunk themselves. It's especially nice when they do it so thoroughly and don't even realize they're doing it.
00:22 The Entire Yoooniverz needs an episode in that bible Belt English. I love it.
by the way, the flood seems to be possible. All I need now is some calculations. How many mana points does it cost to create all that water? How many mana points to turn 1 kg of salty mud into something edible? So many questions :- )
Is it just me or does it sound like Jane's actor has trouble with some of the words in this episode? I think John had the same problem in previous episodes too.
Did they not have them practice until these lines were natural to them?
This was amazing. Nice debunk (as usual). And awesome dog Aron!!
I can't help but chuckle at the thought of these two picking up the bible and actually reading it.
Genesis Apologetics has comments turned off. What are they afraid of?
There would be more derision than comments.
They are meant for children, so YT doesn't allow them to have comments.
I LOVE your videos on these kinds of topics and making flat earthers look the fool they are, keep em comin.
Aron doesn’t make videos against flat earthers, you may be thinking of professor Dave explains
You should check out CoolHardLogic if you want to see Flattards getting destroyed.
His work is simply the best
As great as your videos are, the best parts are when you interact with your dogs.
Always makes me smile.
YES MORE JNJ! I feel it is so sad they are stifled in their development so badly.
Been wondering when you'd be back to busting Strawman and Gaslight. It's bittersweet that it's the final episode.
" Kind of makes you think , doesn't it " - Translation from Bible-ese into English . " Stop thinking and just agree with us "
FINALLY..
I've been impatiently waiting for another ARON RA - JnJ debunk video.
Let the dismantling begin.
Sweet.
NGL I’d wear the “Remember the Dodo” shirt.
I'm not going to miss that fingernail on the chalkboard voice screeching "is it just me?" But I will miss the epic debunking!
I don't even see a huge problem with the 300ky delay... no one is saying the asteroid dropped and literally all the dinosaurs just fell over dead that day. This isn't like Noah's Ark, guys!
The part that baffles me the most that I wish you had mentioned, is that they think an ice age happened after the flood, in order to explain away the ice ages we see *in the geologic column* which they think was made *by the flood*, so they think that the flood happened layed down all the rock layers, then that caused an Ice age, and said ice age only left markers for such event in *those specific layers* but not the ones above them.
And they also think trees can grow at 10x speed for no specific reason
The star of the show got in there at the end... and got a cuddle.
Before, they always say, "don't judge the book by its cover", but in John and Jane's case, they do look stupid.
Every time I look into the ludicrous Noachian Flood fable I find something else stupid about it...
Just the movement of this absurd volume of water (which was magicked up from nowhere & promptly vanished) would generate a tremendous amount of *Heat,* which gets even worse when you add the 40 days of rain - each drop of water transferring even more *Heat* as it impacts the rocky ground, or falls into the fantastic new sea of boiling water, poached sea life & plant detritus.
Don't forget the surf & turf platter (of several hundred animal species local to the levant region of the middle-east), cooked up on a floating chunk of charred, splintered, wooden debris, which - _conveniently_ - had run aground on the side of a mountain, far above the surface of the rapidly evaporating waters.
Unfortunately, this mountain - being an ancient _volcano_ - has reawakened (due to all the increased environmental heat & pressure from the tremendous weight of water) with the typical rivers of lava & pyroclastic flow making the area quite inimical to life.)
The sun flew through a cloud of hygrogen and oxygen. Later, the water got pulled off of the earth by a passing rogue gas giant...
@@manuell3505 That idiot Kent Hovind's "theory" ( unsupported hypothesis) about where all the water for The Flood came from is a real doozy:
[ face-palm protectors on. ; ) ]
_"...There was a huge transparent sphere of ice surrounding the entire _*_Earth,_*_ which _*_disintegrated & fell down as chunks_*_ over 40 weeks to become an intense amount of rain..."_
How to demonstrate you've never understood how thermodynamics works, without saying it outright.
Just a few problems:
• A thick shell of any material will block at least some of the light & quite a bit of the warmth ftom the Sun.
• Gigatonnes of ice hitting the atmosphere will heat up the air - both through friction & kinetic energy - a lot. (And no, it won't make it colder 'cause it's ice, that's how a six y/o might think.)
I leave you to realise all of the other myriad things wrong with this astonishingly ignorant "theory"...
“Man, its sure crazy how them buffalo, kangaroos, and such, swam to where we discovered them later after the great flood, ain’t it? God is good.”
Also, that Dodo Club thing would be pretty sick.
I really want a dodo bird shirt now.
THE LEADER CAN WEAR A LARGE DODO HEADRESS OF A DODO, AND BE CALLED: THE GREAT DODO...
@@AECRADIO1 Our rivals would be the nefarious Lemming Society, hosts of the semi annual bungee jumping excursion.
Dodos: "We have visitors from another world, they came out of the belly of those strange and big beasts of wood! They must be gods! Hello, the dodos of this world salute you, oh gods!"
Humans: "EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!"
DALEKS WERE TRANSPLANTED HERE BY THE ENTERPRISE....
TO SAVE THE DALEK RACE FROM THEIR 'CREATOR'..
I'm going to miss this series. Great work, once again.
Excellent conclusion to a much needed series. Also, my heart melted in seeing Aron Ra's dog at the end!
Mine too. He just wanted a hug. Lovely friend. :)
@@EllasPOSEiDON :)
A very enjoyable and informative series to watch. Thank you very much! (Love the big white fluffy thing at the end)
Best after credits scene ever
"Is it just me or . . ." fuck why'd I click on this. I lose braincells every time I hear that opener from Jane.
Imagine believing what these people claim to believe. Seems to me that such a belief would result in a terrible paranoia, given that literally everything contradicts the belief.
What a horrible life.
Unfortunately, that paranoia comes from the fear of being an awful human being because you "sinned." They worry about eternal damnation after death, as if that would even matter considering the human mind has no way of comprehending eternity.
You have to be stupid and gullible first...
Nothing is the Bible is contradictory. And know 2hat I belivecis real, the things iv seen, felt and heard proven that to me. Iv also done tons of research on evolution and see zero proof.
@@Perroden
Bullshit. On all points.
@@johnboettcher1962 oh so instead of engaging in an actually conversation you go to that. Typical atheist acting like a child. Unable to argue
I'm glad you left in the blooper at the end. Your pet polar bear is cute.
Thank you for the wonderful explanation
Hey that's bits of AtlasPro's videos at the beginning!
More doggo, less creation.
Sad to see the end of another series! Can't wait for the next :)
Thanks for these AronRa. It is distressing to realise that kids are being force fed this BS by adults. Actual grown-assed adults!
PS let the dog stay, they were blending into the clouds perfectly!
12 of 12, the end of an era. So long, John and Jane...I'll look for you at Chick-fil-A the next time Im back home in the States.
Jane and John should read books on evolution to properly understand it
Thing is, they do have a decent biology textbook, they just deliberately misinterpret, cherry-pick, and distort its information
If they wanted to understand it, they already would. I get the feeling they don't care about facts.
@@juanjoyaborja.3054 Exactly - and that just makes them even worse
I love how every professor, expert, or academic starts off being very patient and mindful with their approach to dealing with apologists; naively thinking that it's all just a big misunderstanding. Then after about 15 minutes to an hour of listening to their insane ramblings, they all inevitably start to take the kid gloves off. Lol. Realizing that apologists are not just ignorant to the facts, but they are willfully and maliciously undermining facts as well as all of academia. Apologetics is anti-intellectualism.
John and Jane have never made a single credible argument for anything.
Puppy!
Such a loved dog. Thank you for including that clip.
Even though I was a believer, once upon a time, I was never a creationist. I always thought that most if not the entire Bible was metaphorical. In my opinion it is a much better read if you see it that way.
Note on the Dodo. And another thing the Dutch are not realy proud of... When the Dutch arrived on Mauritius, they found these birds easy to catch. And a lot of them were eaten. Though the flesh was quit revolting. The name the Dutch gave these birds was "walgvogel". Meaning as much as "disgust-bird". 🙂
When they cite Genesis 7:23, "he destroyed all living things" and it lists Animals...they (Abahamists) don't consider plants to be alive, so they weren't utterly destroyed and were available for the animals to eat.
Not knowing that even that would be utterly impossible.
Them not considering plants to be alive is another huge plot hole in their world view because plants have much more sentience than people give them credit for, ever smelt fresh cut grass? Those are the chemical screams of thousands of slaughtered beings. Yikes
This is the last one? I am so disappointed that there won't be more of these.
I love how you explain things, Aron. I'll be honest I have just high school diploma (and not proud of it🙁), so often I don't understand evolution (or climate change ) like I would like to. Your videos make it so much easier on me, so I can explain those theories to my kids better. Thank you for that.
there’s nothing wrong with ‘just’ having a high school diploma! You’re taking your time to educate yourself on things you think are important that’s much more than some college graduates do. And (only since you say you’re not proud) it is never to late to go back to school.
@@birchtree_6 I'm 45 😔.
But thank you for your kind words, it does me feel little better.
"Is it just me, or..." No, Jane. It's you. It's always you.
Imagine how empty of plant life this planet would be if we had a worldwide flood and then an ice age a few hundred years later. The only extant plants would be the ones which can survive both underwater and in long-term sub-freezing temperatures.
The blooper clip is adorable! Dogs are precious.
The bit where Jane is astounded that John is interested in the dodo is very on point. After talking to creationists for a while, on of the things you notice is that they are incredibly uninterested in the natural world and know very little about it. This is, in my view, a bit rich for a bunch of people who claim to believe that nature was created by the supreme being of the universe, essentially for their benefit and that they have been placed in stewardship over it. God forbid that this should motivate them to learn anything about it.
These apologists and creationists drive me crazy. One of my former employees believes all the Bible stories. She's Haredi, so only the Jewish stories. The flood. Adam and Eve. Tower of Babel. And so on. Absolutely nuts. On a good note, thankfully, she's Jewish and not Christian. Because she pretty much keeps it to herself. If she were Christian, she would be shouting from the rooftops.
What drives me crazy is my lack of knowledge. I wish I knew everything so I could refute them, because I KNOW I have seen or read the answers in the past.
Never clicked on a video so fast
Sad that this series is ending. I really enjoyed it. When are you going to pick up again on the Darwin documentary?
Thank you. People like me working at a school need science to support education. Sadly, science seems marginalized in recent years. What's weird is the word 'evolutionist' has become a word.
You _are_ the front line against that trend, buddy. Keep fighting back!
Her voice makes me thankful for the volume button. Great vid as always,AronRa. And your guest was awesome too.
Oh boy. John and Jane are right about one thing. They are Dodos 🦤
Hey aron can you make a video about time travel ?
I approve of a fan club for Dodo birds.
How about join the fan club of the kakapo, another bird suffering a similar fate to the dodo, native to New Zealand
@@juanjoyaborja.3054 at least we've managed to protect it from being dinner for humans at this point in time.
"-If you compress the geologic column-"
"-If you imagine the evidence isn't evidence-"
Being this video they wanted to use the Dodo bird, of which Aron covered and explained very well.. it reminded me of a discussion I had not long ago with a creationist who was trying his damnedest to refute evolution. I used the Hawaiian Goose as an example of evolution of a modern bird...that is verging on near extinction because of how it evolved and humans being the tools that they can be.
The Hawaiian Goose was a earlier variety of a Canadian Goose. At some point they were taken off course by some means and ended up on the Hawaiian Islands. Once there in such a tropical paradise..they had no reason to leave or migrate.. Literally, everything they needed was right there ..great weather, food, and protection. There was no real natural predators to fear or worry about eating them either.
As time passes these geese became a bit fatter and lazier. They had no reason to fly anymore.. they were not going anywhere.. there was no predators to escape from. So they slowly lost their ability to fly.. because these muscles and structure of the ability to do so we're not being used..those areas atrophied..and being useless..the bird adapted and evolved to just have weaker muscles..born that way . Soon the changes were in all of these birds. And their bone structure and density changed with those changes . It was not just adapting..their genetic make up changed as well .
Soon after this and almost at the same time..another change was happening. These geese had an abundance of food on land. And with no natural predators to hunt them they never needed to really go in the water. They were sufficient on land.. a bit clumsy but still didn't need to swim for any reason. And add in the fact their density and weight was increasing..they would sink...not float. So they lost the ability to swim. And with generations upon generations not swimming at all no parents taught them to swim or get into the water.. soon if one was to do such..and the water was deep enough where they were over their heads in trouble and water...they drowned. So they learned to stay out of water .at least anything that was anything more that wading depth at their feet
Thus the Hawaiian Goose evolved..to a mostly flightless and non swimming variety of the Canadian goose family. Then humans came along and saw that these birds were gorgeous and beautiful birds with feathers that were commonly black and gold.. (yes literal gold in color) ... colored and they hunted the birds solely for the feathers. This went on until finally people noticed there was hardly any left and the bird was forbidden to be hunted and was put on a protection list.. but another problem had arose....humans brought predators to these islands and now these predators as well was hunting these geese . Geese who could not fly, can not swim, and we're a bit clumsy on land..and who prior to humans coming around..never had any issues or need to develop or keep any means to escape or avoid being killed and eaten.
This is a great example of a bird in evolution that we have right now to look at
I really hope that more people start realizing that religion is wrong and a scientific mind is such a better way to live. Knowing what we know and striving to figure out the things we don't is so much better than pretending your fairy tale is the correct one.
In general, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. However, in the case of the apparently non-existent, ie god, I’d argue that absence of evidence is evidence of absence.
So glad I waited for the post-credits scene on my second viewing. Aron, your pets are seriously spoiled rotten.❤️
Creationists eternally reaching for conclusions.
Oh, they DO have a conclusion, it’s just unsupported.
...or reaching From conclusions!
Creationists actually start with a conclusion, and try to work their way back.
That post-cred bit is too precious