I wont go to the extent of removing the louver system, but I do want to dismantle it. Do you know what wire I can pull to permanently open the louvers or should I just remvove the whole mess? I don't want to have to take the front grill off. Thanks for responding.
Yes that's the sound and it does clear up after like 15 secs. I'll keep an eye on it and see . Can it be a clog and is.there an additive to help stop this
That's a good background on why the louvers are designed for the motor, but my beef is, I hate sensors that stop working properly, or systems that operate on sensors that no longer work the way they should. My truck louver system gives a thud, thud, thud, thud, thud noise and I never knew what the cause was until I put my fingers on the top of the electronics motor on top of the louver system, near the top of the radiators. As long as it's just for getting the motor to run hotter quicker, and not anything terribly important, I will disconnect the electrical system to dismantle that whole mess. And why not, I pulled the wire on the stop/start technology when that sensor failed, and that was easy. I've had enough of these automotive engineers that design an idea, get it implemented into production, then the systems fail before the truck or auto is even three or four years old...and it's too expensive to fix a stupid idea anyway. If my louvers get stuck closed and I can't get good air to flow to the radiator freely, then I'll take a good needlenose pliers and crack every one of those dumb ass louvers, like a dentist fixing a row of rotten teeth. I'm pissed. Technology be damned.
Things are way more complicated than they have to be. Blame it on government emission regulations. No manufacturer wants to spend time and money developing that crap. The government says reduce tailpipe emissions and they must comply. The earlier the engine warms up to operating temperature then the exhaust emissions are reduced due to the engine efficiency. Cold engines use more fuel. Great comment! -Glen
@@ozzstars_cars I have a 2018 expedition max and it’s acting weird. Non towing, when I drive at high speed (70+) and then push on gas and turbo activates I see a temp (232-235). As soon as I let go of gas pedal temperature disappears on coolant gauge. Truck has not overheated, ideas?
To me the noise is too late after the start to be the timing chain. A bad chain noise is there the instant the engine starts and is usually only there a few seconds at most. Just turn up the tunes, Glen.
That's a good observation man. It is a little bit delayed in the vid but sometimes comes on sooner and much louder. It's wacky but then again the grill says Ford. 🤣🤣
Very helpful. I have a 2018 2.7 purchased new and it's been doing this same thing since new. Never on a cold start but get it up to temp, park and let it sit for an hour and it will make that odd clack every now and again. So that's my active grill shutter stepper motor making that noise? Is there a fix for this or is it just year specific? Seems to be happening on the 18 and 19's.
Great video thanks brother. I don't have those. The way you explain what they are and they do remind me of the older semi trucks. They had the fins in the grill or would be the grill. They would open or close depending on the engine temperature. Keep up the great work see you in the next video thanks again brother
My 2015 has been making a sound after the engine is on for about 5 min. that lasts for a couple of seconds and then goes away. It only happens on cold start - it's Summer right now. At first I thought it might be a bearing going on a tensioner or idler pulley but now I'm thinking it might be these shutters. I'll have to fire it up and just wait for the noise with the hood open. It should be easy to see if the shutters have opened or closed while the noise is happening. It's one of those things that if you take it in to the dealer your going to get the ole can't reproduce the problem answer.
@@ozzstars_cars I don't think it's the phasers as the engine isn't making any unusual noises at startup or at temperature. It seems more temperature related as the engine warms up and it only does it once each trip. That's why I'm thinking it's those shutters. Another way to diagnose would be to just disconnect the connector to the motor that powers them and see if the noise goes away. The truck only has 62K miles on it but I retired last year so it doesn't get driven every day anymore and I had a water pump go last year. I'd be in the market for a new one but they are unobtainium this year with the chip shortage.
@@ozzstars_cars Is this a specialty tool - I have a Actron code scanner but I don't think it gives me the capability to cycle things. I had the truck out today and it seemed like every time I started the engine it made the noise within a few minutes for a second or two and then not again until I shut the engine off. I took a look under the hood and it looks like the connector is right by the hood latch so I pulled the plug. Hopefully that will stop the noise and isolate the problem. The shutters are rather expensive at about $350 so if that is the problem i may just leave unplugged. It sort of sounds like gears slipping / grinding and I'm not noticing anything from a drivability standpoint.
Interesting that Glynn has no answer like the cat. This is not a good video for people that have real concerns like that damn technology that doesn’t work properly.
I’ve got an 18, f150 and I was wondering about that. But also when I hit the gas it will tick like that for almost a second or less. I hope it’s the same thing. I don’t like how it sounds I thought it was my timing chain hitting the timing cover
Mine are trying to open or close. They don't stop. How do I fix that. 2015 XLT Ecoboost. Click click click...as they are trying to open I guess because I watch them close. And after awhile I see they closed but clicking later after driving
I get a rattling every cold morning on my 2017 f-150 for about a minute or so? The rattling sounds like two hollow pieces of metal vibrating? Only happens when it gets -10 and lower! I'm still going to bring it in to get checked. Just curious what you may think it is?
Shit son you don’t even know what cold is, when your engine barely turns over and knocks like a diesel until the oil starts to flow then we can talk lol
@@antoniogomezflores9370 I’m not sure Tony. I have worked and worked on this thing. I think my timing chain is a little loose. Idles rough. These direct injection engines are great till their not. All for smog control and emissions. Too many electronics and lack of lubrication on top end. The start up rattle I don’t think is a problem.
They say it's the Cam Phasers I have a 2018 F150 with 48k n I'm having the same rattling noise at cold startup. I took it to the Ford service dept and they said it's the Cam Phasers but parts are on backorder for about 30 days, I'll try n comment again once I take it in and get it back, they did say it'll be covered under the Powertrain Warranty. has anyone had the cam phasers n timing chain repaired/replaced and still having the same problem?
Dude that beard is weak sauce! haha! but glad you are trying! Good video Glen and a Merry Christmas to you and your family! (just kidding! beard looks good!)
LOL Mike, you are the beard master. I trimmed it down twice now. I need inspiration to go all out like you! haha Thanks and Merry Christmas to you and Helga as well.
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Thank you, very helpfull
You are welcome Gary, thanks for stopping by and taking the time to comment.
This answered my concerns! I was so worried until I saw this.
Good tip! I have a 15 Ram, it also has the louvre in the front. I haven’t noticed any noise, but good to know! Thanks for sharing that.
I didn't realize Dodge, I mean Ram is using the same technology nowadays. Thanks for stopping by.
I never knew there was such a thing. At least it’s not a timing chain issue. Wishing you and your family a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. 😀👍
Perfect, something else to go wrong for the sake of emissions. Im sure the gain is significant...(rolleyes)
If it's not one thing it's another.
I took them off when I put an aftermarket front bumper on and I haven't noticed any difference in the time it takes the truck to warm up or MPGs.
I wont go to the extent of removing the louver system, but I do want to dismantle it. Do you know what wire I can pull to permanently open the louvers or should I just remvove the whole mess? I don't want to have to take the front grill off. Thanks for responding.
I drive a 1990 F-150. Seeing this video felt like I was watching something from out of the future 😂
🤣🤣🤣
Yes that's the sound and it does clear up after like 15 secs. I'll keep an eye on it and see . Can it be a clog and is.there an additive to help stop this
Intake rattle is repaired with replacement.
Nice1 Glen, really COOL system 😁👍
haha good one, thanks man!
That's a good background on why the louvers are designed for the motor, but my beef is, I hate sensors that stop working properly, or systems that operate on sensors that no longer work the way they should. My truck louver system gives a thud, thud, thud, thud, thud noise and I never knew what the cause was until I put my fingers on the top of the electronics motor on top of the louver system, near the top of the radiators. As long as it's just for getting the motor to run hotter quicker, and not anything terribly important, I will disconnect the electrical system to dismantle that whole mess. And why not, I pulled the wire on the stop/start technology when that sensor failed, and that was easy. I've had enough of these automotive engineers that design an idea, get it implemented into production, then the systems fail before the truck or auto is even three or four years old...and it's too expensive to fix a stupid idea anyway. If my louvers get stuck closed and I can't get good air to flow to the radiator freely, then I'll take a good needlenose pliers and crack every one of those dumb ass louvers, like a dentist fixing a row of rotten teeth. I'm pissed. Technology be damned.
Things are way more complicated than they have to be. Blame it on government emission regulations. No manufacturer wants to spend time and money developing that crap. The government says reduce tailpipe emissions and they must comply. The earlier the engine warms up to operating temperature then the exhaust emissions are reduced due to the engine efficiency. Cold engines use more fuel. Great comment! -Glen
Well done, great work
Thank you! Cheers!
@@ozzstars_cars I have a 2018 expedition max and it’s acting weird. Non towing, when I drive at high speed (70+) and then push on gas and turbo activates I see a temp (232-235). As soon as I let go of gas pedal temperature disappears on coolant gauge. Truck has not overheated, ideas?
Awesome tip Glen. I keep a lookout for that If it ever gets cold here in San Diego. 🤓
lol Brian, we can trade the weather anytime you want!
Not a chance. Lol
That's going to help someone, no doubt. The beard is looking good. Have a great Christmas!
Thanks Wyatt, Merry Christmas to you and your family!
I have a 2013 and have this rattle noise. It’s been over a year and it still does it
Make sure its not the cam phasers
Grill shutters, let the hamsters sleep in. lol
True. 🤣
To me the noise is too late after the start to be the timing chain. A bad chain noise is there the instant the engine starts and is usually only there a few seconds at most. Just turn up the tunes, Glen.
That's a good observation man. It is a little bit delayed in the vid but sometimes comes on sooner and much louder. It's wacky but then again the grill says Ford. 🤣🤣
Great info.
Thanks Moe!
Thanks for sharing! Helpful
Glad it was helpful!
Very helpful. I have a 2018 2.7 purchased new and it's been doing this same thing since new. Never on a cold start but get it up to temp, park and let it sit for an hour and it will make that odd clack every now and again. So that's my active grill shutter stepper motor making that noise? Is there a fix for this or is it just year specific? Seems to be happening on the 18 and 19's.
Most modern pickup have this technology. It's designed to reduce exhaust emissions, increasing the coolant temperature at a faster rate.
Thanks Ozz. Did your noise get any better/worse?
Great vid!
You have good taste in videos. haha 🤣 Thanks!
Helped me out. I just got my f150 and it does this. It's 28° out
Winter is here!
Well explained!! 👏
Thank you
Just curious, but that air flow is used to cool the engine. When it’s 90 plus degrees out side your gonna won’t those open.
Great video thanks brother. I don't have those. The way you explain what they are and they do remind me of the older semi trucks. They had the fins in the grill or would be the grill. They would open or close depending on the engine temperature. Keep up the great work see you in the next video thanks again brother
Beats the old cardboard wedged in the grill trick. haha
Ok great video mate so let me just get this right if I hear a horrible clicking noise don't worry about it ok sorted thank you🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's probably just the beans and cabbage you ate Leon. 🤣
hahahah
It is quite a common feature,I work on gm product,a lot of them have it
Good vid bud. Keith would be the guy to ask if the module has some adjustability with temp and activation to eliminate that noise .
I wanted to have more criteria on the operation before making the video but didn't get a chance.
My 2015 has been making a sound after the engine is on for about 5 min. that lasts for a couple of seconds and then goes away. It only happens on cold start - it's Summer right now. At first I thought it might be a bearing going on a tensioner or idler pulley but now I'm thinking it might be these shutters. I'll have to fire it up and just wait for the noise with the hood open. It should be easy to see if the shutters have opened or closed while the noise is happening. It's one of those things that if you take it in to the dealer your going to get the ole can't reproduce the problem answer.
Let us know what you find. Hopefully it's not the cam phasers.
@@ozzstars_cars I don't think it's the phasers as the engine isn't making any unusual noises at startup or at temperature. It seems more temperature related as the engine warms up and it only does it once each trip. That's why I'm thinking it's those shutters. Another way to diagnose would be to just disconnect the connector to the motor that powers them and see if the noise goes away. The truck only has 62K miles on it but I retired last year so it doesn't get driven every day anymore and I had a water pump go last year. I'd be in the market for a new one but they are unobtainium this year with the chip shortage.
@@scottyV1000 i have a scan tool which can control the active shutters for testing purposes.
@@ozzstars_cars Is this a specialty tool - I have a Actron code scanner but I don't think it gives me the capability to cycle things. I had the truck out today and it seemed like every time I started the engine it made the noise within a few minutes for a second or two and then not again until I shut the engine off. I took a look under the hood and it looks like the connector is right by the hood latch so I pulled the plug. Hopefully that will stop the noise and isolate the problem. The shutters are rather expensive at about $350 so if that is the problem i may just leave unplugged. It sort of sounds like gears slipping / grinding and I'm not noticing anything from a drivability standpoint.
@@scottyV1000 makes sure the louvers are unplugged in the OPEN position or the engine will be sure to overheat.
No such thing as a cold start here in California. Sometimes it will get down to like 50 degrees.
You guys are lucky!
Thank you
Just found this video today, would these also close when opening the driver's door?
Nothing to do with the door.
@@ozzstars_cars Ok thanks. I get a loud squeak from the engine bay when remote starting or opening the driver's side door if its been sitting a while.
My 2019 f150 ecoboost just started rattling at start.
@ 60,000 miles. So what’s the fix?
@@robertvaldez109 check the cam phasers.
Not sure what that is., but thanks. I will tell my mechanic.
Interesting that Glynn has no answer like the cat. This is not a good video for people that have real concerns like that damn technology that doesn’t work properly.
Very neet video brother
Thanks Antonio!
Huh, I drive a 2018 F150 at work, didn't even realize it had them!
Take a peek and you'll see. :-)
Another thing that WILL break down and leave your engine overheated and ruined
I’ve got an 18, f150 and I was wondering about that. But also when I hit the gas it will tick like that for almost a second or less. I hope it’s the same thing. I don’t like how it sounds I thought it was my timing chain hitting the timing cover
Doesn't sound like your issue is an active shutter.
In the bin they went when the new intercooler went in
Thank you so much. It was my wastegate. I tried a cold start it was their started it again and it was gone!
Have any of you had an issue with a rattle at low speed and low rpm? And is it normal for my truck to vibrate a bit in 4 auto?
No, no and nope.
Mine are trying to open or close. They don't stop. How do I fix that. 2015 XLT Ecoboost. Click click click...as they are trying to open I guess because I watch them close. And after awhile I see they closed but clicking later after driving
Check the function of the vacuum solenoids first.
I get a rattling every cold morning on my 2017 f-150 for about a minute or so? The rattling sounds like two hollow pieces of metal vibrating? Only happens when it gets -10 and lower! I'm still going to bring it in to get checked. Just curious what you may think it is?
Timing chain slap and/or cam phasers are my guess. Which engine does your truck have?
@@ozzstars_cars 3.5L EcoBoost with 126 k
@@john-claudejpep6654 let us know what the diagnosis is if you can. 👍
@@ozzstars_cars I'm bring it in next week for my mechanic to take a look at it and I'll answer back!
The active grille shutters on my Ford make all kinds of weird noises. I think they're posessed
Doesn't surprise me. We know what FORD stands for. haha
Shit son you don’t even know what cold is, when your engine barely turns over and knocks like a diesel until the oil starts to flow then we can talk lol
Didn’t hear clatter! Mine sounds like the fan blade is hitting something!
Yeah it's a strange noise.
Did you find out what it was? Going to go look at my father's today. Same fan noise on cold start ups
@@antoniogomezflores9370 I’m not sure Tony. I have worked and worked on this thing. I think my timing chain is a little loose. Idles rough. These direct injection engines are great till their not. All for smog control and emissions. Too many electronics and lack of lubrication on top end. The start up rattle I don’t think is a problem.
I better soon as you left the cat she was planning how to make the system run better and smoother or she just wanted to kill a mouse 1 of the other
Probably both.
They say it's the Cam Phasers
I have a 2018 F150 with 48k n I'm having the same rattling noise at cold startup. I took it to the Ford service dept and they said it's the Cam Phasers but parts are on backorder for about 30 days, I'll try n comment again once I take it in and get it back, they did say it'll be covered under the Powertrain Warranty.
has anyone had the cam phasers n timing chain repaired/replaced and still having the same problem?
I know in 2018 the 5.0L was redesigned and has GDI. What engine does your truck have?
3.5 EcoBoost
Dude that beard is weak sauce! haha! but glad you are trying! Good video Glen and a Merry Christmas to you and your family! (just kidding! beard looks good!)
LOL Mike, you are the beard master. I trimmed it down twice now. I need inspiration to go all out like you! haha Thanks and Merry Christmas to you and Helga as well.
Wow a lot can go wrong with that truck😱 Did Anyone tell you allready you look like Chuck Norris with that beard?😊
You are the first Dan. lol
I have a comment..I'll tell you about it in just a second..😆
Maybe paint them bright red... would look hot when cold. =)
Now that would make it unique. Maybe paint the calipers to match. 😉
1st BOOM
You never disappoint with being first!
You can Louvre me up😜😜😜😘😘
Your comment sounds a little bit suspicious. 🤣🤣
@@ozzstars_cars but you love it
Rattling is your flaming mouth
Are you saying I'm on fire? Thanks!
These trucks are absolute pieces of shit... Ford is the most problematic truck made today