I started with a V8 as I bought it from the administrator of the business I worked for. I had driven the truck from new & she was 7 years old with 1.1m km. Wasnt the best move but I trusted it. I still own it but its retired with 1.7m kms. If you buy a 450bhp Scania its very easy to get 500bhp out of it safely. Helps when there are lots of 450bhp Scanias from large fleets with low kms. The mainstay of my fleet is 500 to 560bhp S series singe tags & mini midlifts, no need for dual tags mostly because of the weight & extra fuel usage. Same with full sized midlifts. Can make the most of cheaper fuel with bigger tanks. The 560 is a weapon & is all the power you need for 99% of work. We do European work so that extra bhp can help journey times on 8000km runs compared to a 500bhp. A V8 will be fastest but extra fuel & weight isnt worth it most of the time. Would rather have upto 11mpg from a 560 @ 40t vs 9mpg from the V8 @40t in Europe. The V8 will drink around 8,000ltrs more a year. Depending on work a mini midlift is best as it saves over 500kg. Doesnt sound much but for us that 500kg is around £150 per round trip which is again over the year £3,600. Over the year a V8 vs 560 its over £10,000 difference based on 150,000km a year that my trucks do.
Well said - sensible advice. We found better fuel returns when disconnected the option for “driving modes” to stop the drivers constantly selecting power mode etc. Fleet of Scania 12x 450 R cab top lines &high-lines and also 13 Merc Actros 430,s. Mercs better on fuel but they all plagued by electronic issues (merc dealer only repairs !) so earned more money with Scanias.
A company you probably know in the log hauling industry based near Dingwall did a test comparing the V8 against a 500 straight 6 and the V8 was using £70 more a day in fuel , it was quite a comprehensive comparison and the outcome was the V8s have gone replaced with 500s . Sensible decision 👍
Good solid advice: buy what you need, not what you dream of. Dreams can be worked toward, it'll be more rewarding once you achieve it. Love the honesty that you Sandy, as a true fullblooded Scania man, advise to stay away from the V8's.
For any off road work you can't beat a Scania but for hard road tramping a Daf wins for comfort and space. Down to each different work types which manufacturer is better.Good insight into looking for trucks👍
Thank you for this video.. it was rely helpful..👍 I haven't yet got my own truck, but I'm working everyday, every weekend and even the odd nights saving up to one day go for my own lorry.. and watching this just helps me push on so thanks.. Great videos by the way 👏
buying my own lorry is what ive wanted to since i was younger ive asked around like my dads boss etc and basically say the hell away from the v8 buy a 6 cylinder and if you want to buy one like a swiss army knife tipping gear etc so you can cover every aspect and that was coming from dads boss
Personally for me, a R450 tag, keep your v8, re:the next gen mapping you mentioned, r450s and 500s are exactly the same engines and turbos, you can have the r500 ecu programmed in the 450, and it will do the r500 power on the original scania map, and then if choose to do so can then remap it ontop 👍 so a 450 could easily be 560+ 🤠 something to look into sandy 😉
Love your channel, Sandy. Used truck prices for Euro trucks are pretty reasonable. Wish I (American) could export Scania's newer then 20/25 years old. I'd buy that 2017 blue R 730 right now 😂❤❤
Great advise mate,V8’s re great if some one else is paying for the fuel,your truck is a good for an owner driver.stay safe mate see you soon and have a great Christmas
Brilliant advice sandy. I keep watching the market to see what's about and what price range/condition and to be fair there's some decent euro 6 motors about for reasonable prices
I'll get there hopefully next few years I'll have my own on road already took a lot of advice from you an others about doing research and building a list of contacts for work
I am also looking at a Scania R. For private use. Just to go to truck shows and stuff. I already have some driving licenses, according to the Dutch standard. A, BE and T. I also have a crane license. And now work with cranes up to 25 tons. And a forklift certificate. Usually, I drive a Linde E30, with a trailerhins. And then pull trailers up to 18-20 tons. I can also drive the Linde E80. A,forklift with an 8 ton lift capacity. Now I have to get my driving license C. And then buy a Scania R.
My Plan for when I start my own business is to get my Class 1 license but get a Rigid DAF, that way I won't have to spend money on a trailer too, then when my business is a little more developed to the point where my little rigid can't handle the work alone then I'll get an artic DAF or maybe a Renault.
One thing I will say, people tend to be against their favourite smaller youtubers taking on sponsors for videos, especially after the Raid Shadow Legends saga. But im all for Sandy, and others, taking on small, simple, non-intrusive ads like the one is this video. I would rather spend a minute listening to Sandy promote Surfshark than the same amount of time watching the ads at the start of the vids. because they actually help
Got to understand that I have to make a living myself, Iv invested hundreds and hundreds of hours into my channels. But I actually turn down more because they’re not companies or brands, I want to promote, it’s very important for me not to be a sellout
You can keep your Scania V8 not for me thanks. How much was that red tag axle FH4? You didn't say. What sort of mileage would you say is a sensible maximum if you were looking to keep and work it for 3 years?
Well said and presented....... Ya I want a V8 t cab....... I think like you.....I'm not a owner op (sometimes wish I was) I work for a family owned plant hire company. IV always run lorrys as "my lorry" took pride and care on it....the lorrys represented the company and me as a driver. Now I shere 3 lorrys with a fat lazy barstool and a gaffer with an attitude of it runs...it's ok. The lorrys are battered, cabs are a shit hole and nobody cares. I'm embarrassed when I get pulled or have a cab inspection and I say, honestly it's not me..... I bought a 2018 king trailer last year.....ex owner op....it's now reckec!! The Scania R480..... lovely lorry was mint but had +900k on clock..... Now there's not a straight panel..... I eat my pack up in bus stops...it's cleaner. Keep looking sandy you'll find a good work horse.
Sandy, I hope to be an ‘owner operator’ But I wouldn’t know where to start Could you make up a video of that? Like start to finish of Becoming a ‘owner operator’ ?
Great video been looking at a 18 plate daf 530 myself but like you say the truck is the last thing to get. What would be your recommended max km's when looking at a used truck ?
Hi matey 👍 it's mark from Wirral Merseyside 👍 I've just been watching your RUclips video on buying a good used truck and i really enjoyed watching and what you were talking about buying a used truck and i agree with you leave the Scania V8'S for the time being best to get Scania R500 upto R600 and just run them and yes i love Scania and daf trucks a daf with a 530hp is good enough for general haulage work really that's what i think. Anyway I've been watching your RUclips videos over the last few months now and I've just subscribed to your RUclips channel now because I'm friends with trucker Tim and Shaun and nipper ie MacLean and also trucker girl and trucker badie.. anyway matey keep up the great work and i enjoy watching your RUclips videos with your truck and cannot wait to see your next RUclips video. And yes i love your truck by the way and have a great Christmas and New year ready for 2024 👍👍 thanks from mark from Wirral Merseyside 👍 hope to hear from you soon matey 👍🤙👋
There is a reason why the Renault was only 11 grand because They are cheap and nasty, only two trucks on the market and always have been Volvos and scania i’m afraid all the rest have to fall into place behind I’m sorry to say.
@@Sandy-Flat-Out-Flat-Broke got a nice s500 not the biggest or best but damn right better than any daf for comfort and space and yes I’ve drove both, could tell when you took that actros on demo you wasn’t about it… no one rates mercs 🤣🤣🤣🤣 goodnight how’s digger girl
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I started with a V8 as I bought it from the administrator of the business I worked for. I had driven the truck from new & she was 7 years old with 1.1m km. Wasnt the best move but I trusted it. I still own it but its retired with 1.7m kms. If you buy a 450bhp Scania its very easy to get 500bhp out of it safely. Helps when there are lots of 450bhp Scanias from large fleets with low kms. The mainstay of my fleet is 500 to 560bhp S series singe tags & mini midlifts, no need for dual tags mostly because of the weight & extra fuel usage. Same with full sized midlifts. Can make the most of cheaper fuel with bigger tanks. The 560 is a weapon & is all the power you need for 99% of work. We do European work so that extra bhp can help journey times on 8000km runs compared to a 500bhp. A V8 will be fastest but extra fuel & weight isnt worth it most of the time. Would rather have upto 11mpg from a 560 @ 40t vs 9mpg from the V8 @40t in Europe. The V8 will drink around 8,000ltrs more a year. Depending on work a mini midlift is best as it saves over 500kg. Doesnt sound much but for us that 500kg is around £150 per round trip which is again over the year £3,600. Over the year a V8 vs 560 its over £10,000 difference based on 150,000km a year that my trucks do.
Well said - sensible advice. We found better fuel returns when disconnected the option for “driving modes” to stop the drivers constantly selecting power mode etc. Fleet of Scania 12x 450 R cab top lines &high-lines and also 13 Merc Actros 430,s. Mercs better on fuel but they all plagued by electronic issues (merc dealer only repairs !) so earned more money with Scanias.
A company you probably know in the log hauling industry based near Dingwall did a test comparing the V8 against a 500 straight 6 and the V8 was using £70 more a day in fuel , it was quite a comprehensive comparison and the outcome was the V8s have gone replaced with 500s . Sensible decision 👍
Good solid advice: buy what you need, not what you dream of. Dreams can be worked toward, it'll be more rewarding once you achieve it.
Love the honesty that you Sandy, as a true fullblooded Scania man, advise to stay away from the V8's.
Mate appreciate this comment
For any off road work you can't beat a Scania but for hard road tramping a Daf wins for comfort and space. Down to each different work types which manufacturer is better.Good insight into looking for trucks👍
Thank you for this video.. it was rely helpful..👍 I haven't yet got my own truck, but I'm working everyday, every weekend and even the odd nights saving up to one day go for my own lorry.. and watching this just helps me push on so thanks.. Great videos by the way 👏
Sandy most of the time I've seen inline six trucks blow past Scanny V8s and sometimes I prefer inline six over a V8 any day
V8 overrated .
@@davidmarshall5603 I agree
Buy a 500hp Volvo fm globetrotter great little truck
Good to see this sandy looking forward to all the nitty gritty stuff before buying the truck thanks keep her chapping boy
buying my own lorry is what ive wanted to since i was younger ive asked around like my dads boss etc and basically say the hell away from the v8 buy a 6 cylinder and if you want to buy one like a swiss army knife tipping gear etc so you can cover every aspect and that was coming from dads boss
Volvo excellent trucks. They are up there with any Scania. Good truck.
Personally for me, a R450 tag, keep your v8, re:the next gen mapping you mentioned, r450s and 500s are exactly the same engines and turbos, you can have the r500 ecu programmed in the 450, and it will do the r500 power on the original scania map, and then if choose to do so can then remap it ontop 👍 so a 450 could easily be 560+ 🤠 something to look into sandy 😉
Well done Sandy on a great video. Love to learn about operators license
All do one on it
Love your channel, Sandy. Used truck prices for Euro trucks are pretty reasonable.
Wish I (American) could export Scania's newer then 20/25 years old. I'd buy that 2017 blue R 730 right now 😂❤❤
Great advise mate,V8’s re great if some one else is paying for the fuel,your truck is a good for an owner driver.stay safe mate see you soon and have a great Christmas
Brilliant advice sandy. I keep watching the market to see what's about and what price range/condition and to be fair there's some decent euro 6 motors about for reasonable prices
There coming down in price like
I'll get there hopefully next few years I'll have my own on road already took a lot of advice from you an others about doing research and building a list of contacts for work
i like the 143 scania truck
Really helpful video pal, I think if I was gonna. Buy a lorry I’d buy one of Larkin truck sales, I know people who bought trucks off them
Good luck with your new adventure
I am also looking at a Scania R. For private use. Just to go to truck shows and stuff. I already have some driving licenses, according to the Dutch standard. A, BE and T. I also have a crane license. And now work with cranes up to 25 tons. And a forklift certificate. Usually, I drive a Linde E30, with a trailerhins. And then pull trailers up to 18-20 tons. I can also drive the Linde E80. A,forklift with an 8 ton lift capacity. Now I have to get my driving license C. And then buy a Scania R.
Happy days new content
Excellent information, thanks 🎉
Everyone wants a V8 until you have to pay the fuel bill every week 🤣
Company i work for ran a 650v8 and r 450 hauling rock armour same weights some amound of loads and the v8 only used 12 litres a day more per day
It’s a lot over a year
Well they bought another v8 so maybe it just dont bother them lol
Stevens of Wick have some 580s and 650s for sale just now full Scania serviced and they have a few curtainsiders to go with them
Alway tidy trucks they have but of rust on them cause sea watter but nothing major you can’t sort easy when you get it
Best video you’ve done as of lately
Thanks mate
My Plan for when I start my own business is to get my Class 1 license but get a Rigid DAF, that way I won't have to spend money on a trailer too, then when my business is a little more developed to the point where my little rigid can't handle the work alone then I'll get an artic DAF or maybe a Renault.
Often an 18t will get the same rates as a 44t, certainly the case on sunny load boards like the HX.
Advantages/difference between tag and mid lift axles for those not in the know?
One thing I will say, people tend to be against their favourite smaller youtubers taking on sponsors for videos, especially after the Raid Shadow Legends saga. But im all for Sandy, and others, taking on small, simple, non-intrusive ads like the one is this video. I would rather spend a minute listening to Sandy promote Surfshark than the same amount of time watching the ads at the start of the vids. because they actually help
Got to understand that I have to make a living myself, Iv invested hundreds and hundreds of hours into my channels. But I actually turn down more because they’re not companies or brands, I want to promote, it’s very important for me not to be a sellout
Love your advice really usefull.
Great video again mate please do more like this
1st blue scania is Sam booths would of needed for nothing. Would of been on livestock trailer and a fridge for hanging meat .
Tidy buss
The white R500 fairly local to you in Ayrshire 😉
Law trucks (Law Exports) that’s who my dad gets his trucks from them he bought over 5 from them
A few digs at the start about someone I love it haha
I thought it was only tractors that came with PTO never knew you could get pto's in a lorry
PTO on a lorry only drives a hydraulic pump, not quite the same as a tractor PTO
Daf are great trucks. It's the plastic engine they have in them. Paccar crap. The Hart of the truck is the engine.
Enjoyed that video, nothing like drulling over a new truck, you must do the same looking for diggers
Am not really an expert on diggers
Great video!
Try road trucks in Larne
Volvo is the way to go Sandy in my opinion
Na scania man me
He's chomping at the bit for a new truck😂
trucker tim is looking to buy a t cab scania you should tell him
Think he got one from walker movement a torpedoe 420
You can keep your Scania V8 not for me thanks. How much was that red tag axle FH4? You didn't say. What sort of mileage would you say is a sensible maximum if you were looking to keep and work it for 3 years?
Sandy what is the benefit of a tag lift than mid lift.. do you find tag better for turning in woods etc.?
Grip and turning
Thinking your shopping for exports rather than first trucks! Reckon be suicidal buying a dadadadaddaf second hand!!!
Well said and presented.......
Ya I want a V8 t cab.......
I think like you.....I'm not a owner op (sometimes wish I was)
I work for a family owned plant hire company.
IV always run lorrys as "my lorry" took pride and care on it....the lorrys represented the company and me as a driver.
Now I shere 3 lorrys with a fat lazy barstool and a gaffer with an attitude of it runs...it's ok.
The lorrys are battered, cabs are a shit hole and nobody cares.
I'm embarrassed when I get pulled or have a cab inspection and I say, honestly it's not me.....
I bought a 2018 king trailer last year.....ex owner op....it's now reckec!!
The Scania R480..... lovely lorry was mint but had +900k on clock.....
Now there's not a straight panel.....
I eat my pack up in bus stops...it's cleaner.
Keep looking sandy you'll find a good work horse.
Why tf do u share 3 lorries with 2 other drivers why not just take one and not let the other drivers used it
@@DiarmuidKearney no 3 lorrys, me and another.
We have 3 different size lorrys.
7.5t, 32t and 44t.
But he's the main driver, I'm a fitter/driver.
Nice video lad, do you plan on bring the blue and white SnapBack hats back into the store? 👍
I only sell them at shows but might sell shop
@@Sandy-Flat-Out-Flat-Broke ah right ok perfect, thank you for the reply mate 👌
The tcab is over price tried to sell it back to were he got it from and he didn’t get it new he was the 3rd or 4th owner of it
What is the ‘limit’ of mileage you are looking at? Or when will major works be expected? Im looking for one myself, good video 👍
Really depends on what your needing the truck to do, Me personally if I was looking at a truck to do me 3/5 years I want not more than 290.000km
Sandy, I hope to be an ‘owner operator’
But I wouldn’t know where to start
Could you make up a video of that?
Like start to finish of Becoming a ‘owner operator’ ?
Ok
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Awwk ur a legend man 🤩❤️💙
Iv alway though get a Waggon and drag to start with but I don't know if that's a good plan or not
No in my opinion unless you have the work required for one, Don’t see everyone else with them do you and it’s only good for one job
What about your trailer search Sandy?
😉 keep watching
Great video been looking at a 18 plate daf 530 myself but like you say the truck is the last thing to get.
What would be your recommended max km's when looking at a used truck ?
Realy depends on the truck and the work you’re doing and how long you plan to keep it
@Sandy-Flat-Out-Flat-Broke Appreciate that sandy I thought that would be the case I'd plan on keeping it atleast 2 years
Get a tcab
Hi matey 👍 it's mark from Wirral Merseyside 👍 I've just been watching your RUclips video on buying a good used truck and i really enjoyed watching and what you were talking about buying a used truck and i agree with you leave the Scania V8'S for the time being best to get Scania R500 upto R600 and just run them and yes i love Scania and daf trucks a daf with a 530hp is good enough for general haulage work really that's what i think. Anyway I've been watching your RUclips videos over the last few months now and I've just subscribed to your RUclips channel now because I'm friends with trucker Tim and Shaun and nipper ie MacLean and also trucker girl and trucker badie.. anyway matey keep up the great work and i enjoy watching your RUclips videos with your truck and cannot wait to see your next RUclips video. And yes i love your truck by the way and have a great Christmas and New year ready for 2024 👍👍 thanks from mark from Wirral Merseyside 👍 hope to hear from you soon matey 👍🤙👋
You would be afraid to take that track on half. The jobs you'd have to do. You'll need to go and clean the beard because of all the draw.❤😂😂😂😂😂❤
Ah treat urself a spanky new 770s u deserve it
AND A BILL FOR 2 HUNDRED GRAND .
There is a reason why the Renault was only 11 grand because They are cheap and nasty, only two trucks on the market and always have been Volvos and scania i’m afraid all the rest have to fall into place behind I’m sorry to say.
Buy a Volvo with crane
FH 540 ❤ THE BEST .
Scania all the way 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Time for a new one Sandy?
Will see how next year goes
I just sub to you can you do a truck tour and. Please clean your truck
We are working trucks not show sheds
Have you checked out Trucking UK RUclips channel? He’s just done the opposite of what you said
Geez European truck prices seem so cheap compared to North America
Depending on specs some are. 2 year old mid lift Scania R450 with 200,000km is the best part of £97k ($122,000 USD) before taxes.
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Can tell you never lived in a nice s cab man said daf cab better….yeah if you like everything falling apart and cheap plastic
Na sounds like you don’t even drive
@@Sandy-Flat-Out-Flat-Broke got a nice s500 not the biggest or best but damn right better than any daf for comfort and space and yes I’ve drove both, could tell when you took that actros on demo you wasn’t about it… no one rates mercs 🤣🤣🤣🤣 goodnight how’s digger girl
You know if your listening to a guy with baseball hat and worked for nicol . I have no respect for the brainwashed 😂