Moto Gymkhana Setup Series: #7 Comfy Ride, Comfy Slide

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  • Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024

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  • @nickythespacebiker
    @nickythespacebiker 3 месяца назад +1

    I wonder if SSB bars are made out of steel or some light alloy? Can't get them here, no shipping available.
    I make my own crash bars. 4 iterations already, some weren't sturdy enough, some weren't good for ground clearance, another let the bike to lie too low and i struggled to lift it afterwards.
    Front-back center of mass is important. IMHO it's best to drag your CoM as rearward as reasonably possible without inducing wheelies on acceleration. It makes rotations a lot easier. If you can also modify your swingarm to be shorter, it makes a lot of difference as both your wheelbase becomes shorter and your CoM shifts rearwards between your tires' contact patches without altering ergonomics.
    Careful, as the bike becomes more prone to wobbling at road speeds with rear CoM.

  • @rednelli
    @rednelli 3 месяца назад +2

    "Forget the brakes. Forget about gear ratios. Forget about pressures. Build/set the right frame."
    The cheapest and most important motorcycle modification to make it reusable in MotoGymkhana. The right protection for the SV650N is just being created.

    • @LexcoMotoGymkhana
      @LexcoMotoGymkhana  3 месяца назад

      The crash protection is so important. Very true.

  • @dieter2020
    @dieter2020 3 месяца назад +2

    First of all a great thank you for making me discover the channels of 'AntiPilotedeLigneDroite' and 'the amazing Kintaro'. They completely changed my understanding of turning on a motorcycle.
    Could you share your insights on how to decide which crash bars will be sufficient in preventing damage to the engine, frame and also prevent the motorcycle from tipping over?
    I just installed a Givi engine guard, put the bike on its side to check where it made contact with the ground and was pretty satisfied at first. But then I noticed that the bike could tip further over if it had enough momentum (like in a crash) and possibly create a contact point between the tank and the ground. Givi made an extra crash bar which protects more of the upper part of the bike and so I went and installed that one as well. It becomes difficult for the bike to tip over but it looks really awful on my bike (which is a Yamaha XSR 700). The reason it looks so bad is because they only make the crash cage for the MT-07, as it has the same frame as my bike but it's much bulkier on top with the fairings. So it's not a good fit and I'm looking for a better solution.
    Most crash bars are sold online and so it's often impossible to know how they will fit on the bike, which contact points they create with the ground in case of a slide and also if you need only need one part that protects most of the bottom half of your bike or if you need to install multiple guards. I also try to work out at which angle the bike should rest in case of a crash but it's difficult to work that out.
    Also, looking at the SSB crash bars, they don't protect your engine like a typical engine guard that really wraps around your engine. Would you feel okay with leaving the engine quite exposed and just going for an SSB bar for example? I'm a bit reluctant to remove the engine protection I have now but if I leave the engine guard, I'm not able to install another crash bar without doing some major modifications due to compatibility issues between different brands.
    The SSB bars seem to do the trick for motogymkhana and falls at lower speeds but for higher speeds or just commuting, I feel a bit scared that the engine and other parts are still exposed. And the SSB's are so expensive. I already thought about checking out companies who make custom metal parts in my neighborhood hoping they're cheaper than SSB but I don't know the answer to that yet.
    So I basically have some difficulty in evaluating when crash bars protect the bike sufficiently or not. I was hoping to get your insights on this.

    • @LexcoMotoGymkhana
      @LexcoMotoGymkhana  3 месяца назад +1

      Honestly, I would save up and go with the SSB. Even though it may seem very minimalist as far as protection, they know exactly how to protect the bike the best with the least amount of material to avoid making the bike heavier. They've been designing these bars for a while and I trust their experience and judgment. But I feel you're on the right track: If you can, find someone in your area that makes custom bars, check to see how much they charge. It might be a better value.

    • @dieter2020
      @dieter2020 3 месяца назад +1

      @@LexcoMotoGymkhana Okay, a big thanks for the advice. I'm going to consider buying them from SSB or from a custom shop here in my neighborhood and get rid of the Givi's then. Take care 🙏

  • @Nuclearlandlord
    @Nuclearlandlord 3 месяца назад +2

    Whoa! I also got a Sakata Sport Bumper on my 2018 GSXS-750! We're SSB bros!

    • @LexcoMotoGymkhana
      @LexcoMotoGymkhana  3 месяца назад +1

      Named after THE KING Himself. I love those bars.

    • @Nuclearlandlord
      @Nuclearlandlord 3 месяца назад +1

      @@LexcoMotoGymkhana I've dropped my bike plenty during practice. Rock solid!

  • @enhinyerorider5914
    @enhinyerorider5914 3 месяца назад +1

    My personal opinion, this should have been the 1st mod discussed in the series for the crash bars and ergo adjustment reminder. Still a great video series!
    Regarding seating position, look at the other Japanese riders with Sumo builds, they are actually seating as forward as possible to be able to easily maximize steering and accelerate harder without inducing wheelies. Maybe its the reason the complaints of forward sloping seats are mostly on Japanese bikes.

    • @LexcoMotoGymkhana
      @LexcoMotoGymkhana  3 месяца назад +1

      Yeah, it was a tough decision on choosing the first video...but I can agree, the crash protection especially is a crucial topic.
      When it comes to seating position on the supermoto, I tend to see people in Japan sitting with the butt right over the foot pegs or slightly behind the foot pegs. But with Takayoshi Sakuta, he was even further back. Check out this example:ruclips.net/video/oHZulDJjlAE/видео.html
      I tend to put my butt just over the strip of material that acts as a handle on the seat. When I sit there, I feel the most balance.
      BTW: I was watching your riding on your channel. Nice job, Bro :)

    • @enhinyerorider5914
      @enhinyerorider5914 3 месяца назад +1

      @@LexcoMotoGymkhana thanks for the link! Thats one video I have not watched yet.
      Thank you! The Versys 650 is a strange bike to ride
      gymkhana in. It has the dimensions of a super moto but the weight of the bigger bikes specially with the low cost heavy crash bar. It has the riding position of a sumo but need to use conservation of energy techniques of heavier bikes. Not as competitive but still fun! Maybe someday I'll change to a dedicated motogymkhana bike but right now, the Versys is so comfy going to events hehe.

  • @lefterisbampaidis5446
    @lefterisbampaidis5446 3 месяца назад +1

    How do you explain that the body lean back-front affects the turning radius? (given the handlebar turning angle and bike leaning angle stay the same)

    • @LexcoMotoGymkhana
      @LexcoMotoGymkhana  3 месяца назад

      Good question. It might be helpful to review the Level 2 lessons where I talk about those effects but stay tuned…The next lesson on Suspension will also talk about this a little bit.

    • @lefterisbampaidis5446
      @lefterisbampaidis5446 3 месяца назад +1

      @@LexcoMotoGymkhana are you talking about the change in the rake?

    • @LexcoMotoGymkhana
      @LexcoMotoGymkhana  3 месяца назад

      Not just in the change in rake but also the unloading of the front wheel.

    • @lefterisbampaidis5446
      @lefterisbampaidis5446 3 месяца назад

      @@LexcoMotoGymkhana which would result in less traction

    • @LexcoMotoGymkhana
      @LexcoMotoGymkhana  3 месяца назад +1

      Keep in mind that this is referring to a tight rotation turn, not a normal, road speed turn. During a tight rotation turn, the priority is not front tire grip and the unloading of the front wheel allows the front end to lighten up and allows the self steering action to turn the handlebars quickly. This is explained in the Level 2 lessons, especially the one called The Magic Moment.