The Most Complete Batman Show Ever II The Batman (2004)

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  • Опубликовано: 22 ноя 2024

Комментарии • 97

  • @davisthompson9793
    @davisthompson9793 Месяц назад +130

    I think the reason “The Batman” started with Batgirl instead of Robin was because at the time “Teen Titans” was still airing during season 3

    • @_ChoccooMilkk_
      @_ChoccooMilkk_ 26 дней назад +5

      That thought is correct. The bat embargo was really strong at this time. That’s also why some characters didn’t appear at all (Ras Al Ghul, Scarecrow and Harvey Dent/two face) because they appeared in the Nolan movies, therefore couldn’t be used on the first, or second season of the show. Joker could still appear but he showed up less as the show went on.

    • @Fighttilltheend0136
      @Fighttilltheend0136 24 дня назад

      Correct

  • @leader_hamlet5300
    @leader_hamlet5300 Месяц назад +82

    From what I remember, the reason they started with Batgirl and not Robin was because Teen Titans was airing at the same time, and the Bat Embargo kept them from using him until TT ended.

    • @francoperalta5986
      @francoperalta5986 24 дня назад +1

      Yeah although that consequently along with the presentation of this Robin made way for the theory that both Titans and The Batman's Robin are the same guy only a couple years. And both Titans and Batman 04 are in the same universe.

    • @wolfkniteX
      @wolfkniteX 20 дней назад

      Once again, an attempt at making thing less confusing for the general populous making things even more confusing.

  • @mandalorianhunter1
    @mandalorianhunter1 Месяц назад +36

    Im glad a lot of people are making videos on this series. The late 80d-2010s were just the time of Batman from the comics, to 89, to the DCAU, The Batman, Brave and the Bold, Nolan movies and even sadly the DCEU were just Batman taking over.
    I grew up with this show and I really loved the aesthetic of the show

  • @writer_brook
    @writer_brook Месяц назад +29

    This was MY Batman growing up. Of course I went back and watched BTAS and loved it but this was my introduction to the caped crusader. Loved your other videos on this show and I'm so glad you're covering this show and bringing more awareness to it. Its so underrated and deserved so much more love than, as you said, being a weird middle child that a lot of people overlooked

  • @ArcTrooper269
    @ArcTrooper269 Месяц назад +19

    This show, alongside Gotham, is the one were Alfred TRULY FEELS LIKE HE'S BRUCE DAD , not just his butler
    _& you're doing what?_
    *What you suggested Alfred, moving on with with my life*
    _Well, let's get to work, Shall we?_

  • @Andrew-ym2gw
    @Andrew-ym2gw Месяц назад +35

    3:06 no no no, he’s not just voiced by a black man, he’s voiced by KEVIN MICHAEL RICHARDSON, one of the funniest and most talented VAs ever. he was such a good get for this show

    • @Venxous
      @Venxous  Месяц назад +7

      U right I got his pic mixed up with someone else

  • @Zekrel
    @Zekrel 29 дней назад +6

    I love how this series developed ideas that were later added into other Batman media. Some examples are…
    • A Jokerized Batman
    • Joker getting juiced on Venom
    • A kid Poison Ivy
    • An A.I. created to take down Batman
    • An A.I. Joker
    • Mr. Freeze having actual ice powers
    And I know there were more concepts from the show that were translated to other media but I can’t name any other specific examples.

  • @TheGreatVoicemancer
    @TheGreatVoicemancer Месяц назад +8

    Ah yes, the show with my favorite batman villain: D.A.V.E.

  • @ThePrincessCH
    @ThePrincessCH 7 дней назад +3

    I like that they gave Batgirl and Robin more of a sibling dynamic rather than being former lovers.

    • @ashesGeek
      @ashesGeek 6 дней назад +1

      Same, it sucks when Batgirl is just "the girl" of the group. Honestly, I'm not against 2004 Robin and Batgirl becoming a couple because they're fleshed out characters, but I still love their sibling bond quite a lot and it made them even more memorable.

  • @fangoram29
    @fangoram29 Месяц назад +15

    One of the things this show got criticized for was the whole "it's just to sell toys" thing. As someone who grew up with BTAS they're gonna make the toys anyway might as well have them actually connected to the show

    • @ashesGeek
      @ashesGeek 7 дней назад

      The difference is the staff for toys in "The Batman" was actually used in the show and had a role in the plot. I'm not a expert in marketing, but I get a feeling a lot of stuff sold under BTAS brand was either somewhere in the background or wasn't from the show at all.

  • @claypigeon7063
    @claypigeon7063 Месяц назад +9

    Honestly, I’m _so_ happy people are finally getting around to talk about The Batman. It feels like it gets overshadowed by Batman: the Animated Series so often, and afterward people just jump on to Brave and the Bold.
    But þis? Þis was my Batman growing up. Þis was how I got introduced to þe Batman as a character, and it set þe stage for how I saw þese characters going forward.
    Heck, I almost feel like oþer Jokers act too still and stiff compared to Kevin’s Joker; I even got into acrobatics a little because of Joker, and I incorporate what I do into my role in þe local Haunted Woods to þis day!
    Þis show may not be þe gold-standard of þe Animated Series, and I can accept þat, but The Batman is a beautiful shining silver!

    • @Achieme
      @Achieme Месяц назад +2

      I started watching the show 2 weeks ago after batman beyond and I'm already loving it. I also watched BTAS last year for the first time

  • @DirtHutCaver
    @DirtHutCaver Месяц назад +6

    I'm late. I LOVE this show, definitely my favorite Batman series. (I have all the dvds, even! :D)
    I enjoy how the first seasons are darker and how the show lightens up with the introduction of Batgirl and then Robin.
    Also, love how the first time Batman smiles in the show is for Dick. Batman never smiles, at all, and then he meets Dick Grayson and he smiles. Also, love Alfred. Alfred is the goat. The episode where Ethan Bennet turned into Clayface was terrifying as a kid. Also, it's so sad how Bruce was going to finally open up to Ethan about his secret identity and then it didn't work out. :/ :(

  • @deandredukes95
    @deandredukes95 Месяц назад +6

    Underrated classic

    • @ashesGeek
      @ashesGeek 7 дней назад

      I'd add "underrated masterpiece".

  • @Joshua_Shadow_Manriguez
    @Joshua_Shadow_Manriguez Месяц назад +8

    While Teen Titans was why Batgirl was introduced first, it's actually something that was a thing Pre-Crisis in the comics, which is neat. I love this show. Writing Yin out does kind of sucks, the biggest insult probably being an episode where they brought back Cash Tankerson to guard Bruce Wayne. It's really neat how this show got around the Bat-Embargo by making Ethan Bennett the first Clayface via an adaption of The Killing Joke. Also, "The Joining" was an obvious "Brainiac by another name".
    I know this looks like rambling, but bear with it.

    • @scottjs5207
      @scottjs5207 27 дней назад +2

      Dr. Strange being a genuine threat while never lifting a finger was also awsome... Like, it makes so much sense that he would be get villains into Arkam instead of prison and let them "escape" to test his theories.

  • @travismiddleton8218
    @travismiddleton8218 29 дней назад +4

    This is my Batman show. I literally have all 5 seasons on DVD. Before watching this show on Cartoon Network, I knew little about Batman or the wider DC universe in general. This show was my introduction to Joker, Batgirl, Robin, Superman, heck the Justice League itself.
    I'm glad to see channels like yours give the show the praise and attention it deserves.
    Also peak Batgirl and Robin imao. Their episode introductions in seasons 3 and 4 are some of the best episodes the show ever did. Having Barbara Gordon and Pamela Isley be best friends before becoming Batgirl and Poison Ivy was masterfully done.
    And Robin's intro episode and how Dick Grayson becomes Batman's partner is tied with the BTAS version. It's that good

  • @milkiassamuel780
    @milkiassamuel780 Месяц назад +5

    This was my first introduction to Batman as a kid and was what got me into Batman growing up, even before I ever watched Batman The Animated Series, Batman: Brave and the Bold, before I even read the comics, or played the video games like Arkham series or Telltale games in my teen years. This show honestly is my favourite Batman show, and its hard to believe the show is already 20 years old.
    I absolutely LOVE the animation, art style and redesigns of the characters, especially Joker (one of my favourite takes on Joker), Batman, Batgirl, Robin, Mr Freeze, Firefly, Catwoman, Riddler, Killer Croc, Clayface, Man-Bat, etc... all of them had such cool, sleek and creative designs that truly made this show stand out as its own thing and that's one of the many reasons I love it so much.
    I really love this shows take on Batman as more laid back and mentally stable Batman that hasn't let the darkness completely overtake him as its such a refreshing change from the status quo. I also love Bruce and Alfred's relationship and how much Bruce grows as a character accepting Batgirl and adopting Robin and rheir dynamic together is truly fun to watch as this might be my favourite take on the Bat-Family in an adaptation as they all had great chemistry with each other.

  • @malcolmroache3854
    @malcolmroache3854 Месяц назад +3

    Goddawg 20 years ago!!! Man I'm old lol. This show is fire. I love the opening in the first two seasons. Only character I didn't like was Rojas but obviously because he didn't like Batman. Freeze, Firefly, Joker I loved. This show is very rewatchable. Love Bruce's development. Getting Batgirl, Robin, JL characters. 9/10 for me.

  • @helixsol7171
    @helixsol7171 Месяц назад +14

    Ivy is about 16 (like Barbara) in season 3 and 18 or so in season 5. Makes Lex being a creep toward her only SLIGHTLY less creepy with that context, but it's still weird.

    • @GamerSlyRatchet1
      @GamerSlyRatchet1 Месяц назад +1

      One of the show’s designer actually confirmed that Ivy is 19 and Barbara is 16. Probably another reason why Gordon didn’t trust her around her daughter.

    • @helixsol7171
      @helixsol7171 Месяц назад +2

      @@GamerSlyRatchet1
      Ah, so she's 21 in season 5, then.

  • @WeebGuru6
    @WeebGuru6 Месяц назад +4

    Best joker penguins firefly

  • @AndreNitroX
    @AndreNitroX Месяц назад +1

    This was always my second favorite Batman show that did its own thing and felt like a complete satisfying story

  • @GamerSlyRatchet1
    @GamerSlyRatchet1 Месяц назад +4

    I actually thought the show was fairly weak when it started out. But back then, these types of shows actually got to continue and fully flesh out its characters and world and feel “complete” like you said. That started to go away in the 2010s.

  • @Lord0fDreams
    @Lord0fDreams Месяц назад +3

    Man we had it good back then

  • @chrisandrews1314
    @chrisandrews1314 Месяц назад +4

    They weren't allowed to use Robin at first because of Teen Titans. It was only when that series ended that they were given permission to use him.

  • @Joe_Kerr_9797
    @Joe_Kerr_9797 29 дней назад +1

    I love The Batman, it's my second favorite Batman show after BTAS, I'm glad I bought it on blue ray.

  • @WeebGuru6
    @WeebGuru6 Месяц назад +3

    Let’s go let us talk about peak this is my favorite version of Bruce yes even over the animated series it does what most Batman show fail at they don’t neglect Bruce Wayne which I love

  • @ProtoDemnProductions
    @ProtoDemnProductions 2 дня назад

    Used to love this show as a kid, always had a faint memory of it in the back of my mind

  • @qwefg3
    @qwefg3 Месяц назад +2

    I mostly remember Rag Doll and Dave from this series.

  • @mitchfletcher2386
    @mitchfletcher2386 29 дней назад +2

    Wonder Woman was designed for the series, but she didn't get to appear because of this contract that said if Wonder Woman was gonna appear on any show that wasn't about her, she had to be in a major role.
    Luckily this was done away with by the time Brave and the Bold came out.

  • @Hi_Just_Fred
    @Hi_Just_Fred Месяц назад +3

    Scarecrow wasn't allowed to show up purely because of the first Nolan film AND him being reserved for a very short cameo in the next.
    Hated character embargos, though I have heard they weren't always super strict. But in the cases they were it was pretty stupid imo.

  • @midnightfox3157
    @midnightfox3157 Месяц назад +1

    This is my fav batman cartoon though I will admit I didn’t grow up with it I watched it for the first time like a couple months ago but I enjoyed it even more than btas and Batman beyond I like the shows take on this version of Batman

  • @Nightman221k
    @Nightman221k Месяц назад

    I love this version so much. Especially with how the Batfamily dynamic is kind of like a big brother and his kid sister and little brother. The fact we see them all together in the future episode with Nightwing and Oracle and older Batman and Elderly Alfred. It really goes to show that they have a really good family bond. It’s perfect for this Batman whose story in the early parts are focused on him being able to balance a life with his heroics. Seeing that he managed to is cathartic when compared to Batman Beyond where it’s so angsty and sad.

  • @The_Phantasm
    @The_Phantasm Месяц назад +1

    I really loved The Batman. While it didn't have the fame that Batman The Animated Series had, some characters and plotlines I thought were handled significantly better than in BTAS. Characters like Catwoman, Hugo Strange, Batgirl, Killer Croc and surprisingly Firefly I thought were handled in a vastly superior way than in the DCAU. Also the Riddler voiced by Robert Englund was a standout. It also had one of the most unique depictions of Clayface ever. The animation was incredibly thought out and the choreography on the fight scenes is the best I've seen in DC animation.

  • @jostua8085
    @jostua8085 Месяц назад +1

    Just got done watching this, I really thought this was made by someone who has at least 100k subs, wonderful content will be subscribing

  • @Cashmoneez
    @Cashmoneez 28 дней назад

    I loved the batfamily dynamic in this show especially batgirl and with her rivalry with robin. This version of Bruce actually grew a lot in the season and was acting like a sorta father figure to a younger version of the sidekicks. This versions cat woman was also one of my favorites since they really played up how she’s a parallel of Bruce in this show

  • @Nick-sr8id
    @Nick-sr8id 28 дней назад

    Thank you for making this video I love this show

  • @dashingdreww1185
    @dashingdreww1185 29 дней назад

    Really is a great show , alotta fond memories of waking up early Saturday mornings and eating tacos watching this show & spiderman

  • @marcusyates3044
    @marcusyates3044 Месяц назад +5

    Venxous, can you someday cover the characters from the DCAU like the Justice League? or Batman: the Brave and the Bold? PLEASE?

  • @iammaximumstupied
    @iammaximumstupied Месяц назад +1

    The Batman was so underrated and unique.

  • @rfhextra
    @rfhextra Месяц назад +1

    love it when you upload, keep it up

  • @creature2020
    @creature2020 29 дней назад +2

    I agree that Ellen Yin is a new character but her name at least is heavily based on Ellen Yindel the replacement commissioner for Gordon in Batman The Dark Knight Returns.
    I like what they did with her though, definitely made the character her own.

  • @alex4833
    @alex4833 29 дней назад

    Awesome video, Venxous! I have seen clips of "The Batman" and they look cool. I haven't really watched the show though.
    Nonetheless, your video essay got me interested. I am a fan of the DCAU Batman and have enjoyed Batman comics (and enjoyed the Nolan, Burton, and Reeves Batman films). Your description of Batman in "The Batman" cartoon are cool and I def. want to watch the series 😊. I am also a fan of Ming-Na Wen, so I am excited to see much more of her portrayal of Ellen Yin (beyond the RUclips clips that I've seen).
    Cool video again. Have a wonderful weekend 😊.

  • @Iwillone
    @Iwillone 28 дней назад

    It's been 20 years but it feels like just yesterday (*-* )

  • @Supernova2464
    @Supernova2464 29 дней назад

    Love seeing this show get more attention! It’s the one I grew up on so it’ll always have a special place in my heart :3

  • @SonofCurlyLox
    @SonofCurlyLox 18 дней назад

    The effect to avoid copy right is hypnotizing me

  • @jessr1698
    @jessr1698 Месяц назад +6

    Personal Opinion: Best Batgirl

  • @zephon6745
    @zephon6745 Месяц назад +1

    One thing that I didn't like was writing Yin out.

  • @CloneScavengerVulpin8389
    @CloneScavengerVulpin8389 28 дней назад

    Almost all the villains in this show are skilled fighters even penguin.

  • @lillianvioletrose9637
    @lillianvioletrose9637 18 дней назад

    FINE, I’ll go watch The Batman again

  • @matthewbraith0411
    @matthewbraith0411 28 дней назад

    My fave Batman Show :)

  • @lenoxx_s1884
    @lenoxx_s1884 25 дней назад +1

    They went with batgirl first because if the embargo. They didn't want to confuse anyone since robin was also on the teen titans

  • @bigm00dthesergalgamer
    @bigm00dthesergalgamer Месяц назад +3

    The Batman is a great show, but no one ever talks about Beware the Batman...

  • @ihavenoideaatall7381
    @ihavenoideaatall7381 29 дней назад +1

    I binged the entire show a few months ago and imo:
    Season 1 and 2 were great.
    Season 3 was mid.
    Season 4 was good.
    Season 5 was fun.

  • @Achieme
    @Achieme Месяц назад +1

    I cant watch the whole thing but cause I am literally watching the show for the first time and currently on season 2.
    I honestly like this version of Bruce Wayne way more than DCAU Bruce Wayne (no not BTAS Bruce, im referring to the new adventure with Batman) he just feels more social and light hearted similar to BTAS IMO

  • @Fighttilltheend0136
    @Fighttilltheend0136 24 дня назад

    Loved Robin's color scheme no bright ugly yellow 😂 and purple shit on barbs homemade outfit she did a phenomenal job for a 15 year old

  • @ihaterz123
    @ihaterz123 Месяц назад +2

    The only thing I hated about the show was the Flash Forward when they made Bruce just like the Dark Knight Returns Batman. He spent all this time just to end up like he did in the Flash Forward personality wise.

    • @mitchfletcher2386
      @mitchfletcher2386 29 дней назад

      That was a possible future.

    • @mitchfletcher2386
      @mitchfletcher2386 29 дней назад +1

      While it did have a similar look, he DID still have a good relationship with Nightwing and Batgirl/Oracle.

  • @totenbrunk
    @totenbrunk 28 дней назад

    Batman has had great animation renditions, I even liked the new show Caped Crusader even if people were shitting on Harleys new costume

  • @Hi_Just_Fred
    @Hi_Just_Fred Месяц назад

    Maxi was actually in an episode of BTAS as well, but I'm unsure if he made any other appearances outside of the one episode.

  • @Rip_Erik_q
    @Rip_Erik_q Месяц назад

    felt as if i was on drugs watching this, because of the swirl thing

  • @Fighttilltheend0136
    @Fighttilltheend0136 24 дня назад

    He should have a social life he's been doing it three years at that point, he's past being angry and closed off like normal bruce

  • @ashesGeek
    @ashesGeek 7 дней назад

    The one thing I noticed and now praise about 2004 Batman that unlike BTAS Bruce not only has gone through development, but we also see all his stages, even in the far future.
    Think about it, DCAU needed two whole ass shows to demonstrate Bruce becoming a Justice League member and an old man loner. "The Batman" did the same just in 5 seasons and didn't waste time with pointless fillers or unnecessary multi part stories

  • @seanmurphy7845
    @seanmurphy7845 Месяц назад

    No mention of D.A.V.E.?
    (I love you D.A.V.E.)

  • @gavinboyer4634
    @gavinboyer4634 Месяц назад +1

    Im still upset that Wonder Woman, a pretty important JL member I would say, never showed up in season five.

  • @MCBOMB27
    @MCBOMB27 29 дней назад

    I think what this show does best, is make use of Bruce Wayne. both sides of Batman and Bruce Wayne get development, get screen time, and i wish that we got more Bruce Wayne in batman media. The "Day Life" of batman where Bruce does good, be inspiring, to oppose Batman intimidation.

  • @DWolf2099
    @DWolf2099 Месяц назад

    14:42 I mean he was in BTAS

  • @Fighttilltheend0136
    @Fighttilltheend0136 24 дня назад

    It's my shittt

  • @mayonnaise3959
    @mayonnaise3959 День назад

    We can stop calling this show underrated now

  • @hylianbatman3153
    @hylianbatman3153 Месяц назад +1

    This show is THAT old!? Jesus christ...

  • @Fighttilltheend0136
    @Fighttilltheend0136 24 дня назад

    The blue accents were due to the comics

  • @civilbeast165
    @civilbeast165 29 дней назад +3

    The ending of The Batman should have started the 2nd DCAU. If it were up to me, I’d make a Wonder Woman show because Diana is way overdue for her own show and it would have solved the JL’s all dude problem. I also would have given The Flash a show and made a justice league show so we can still see Batman and the others.

  • @michaelandreipalon359
    @michaelandreipalon359 28 дней назад

    If I have a strange nitpick when it comes to this show's fanbase, it's that I'm insulted when they call The Batman 2004 as the DC Comics equivalent of The Spectacular Spider-Man... *yeah, right, at least this underrated piece of work at least got 5 seasons of 65 eps, with nary an unresolved cliffhanger that makes one not wanna rewatch it anymore.*
    By the way, I probably advice fans to deem "Artifacts" as the true series finale via skipping it until Season 5 is done, the same way the DC Animated Universe should end at Justice League Unlimited Season 2's "Epilogue", not Season 3's "Destroyer".

    • @ashesGeek
      @ashesGeek 5 дней назад +1

      Nah, season 5 was great conclusion to Bruce's story: at first he wanted to work alone and thought only he can save the world and in the end he took responsibility for his newfound Bat-family and became a part of Justice League.
      That's the same reason what made DCAU Justice League Batman so great, he was just at piece with himself and finally happy.

  • @dupersuper6516
    @dupersuper6516 17 дней назад

    Didn't really care for this show after Yin. It was top until the jarring tonal shift. Don't know what that was about

  • @adilmyrat3210
    @adilmyrat3210 29 дней назад

    I was born in 2004

  • @BorderlinePsycopath-ro5mq
    @BorderlinePsycopath-ro5mq 18 дней назад

    I hated the visuals of the villains on this show. Could never finish it. Horrendous looks. Joker with dreadlocks? WTF???

  • @francostevo9939
    @francostevo9939 Месяц назад +1

    Love this damn show. Still, 20 yrs have passed and I still think that this show has the worst batgirl and Robin ever. Their designs are terrible and they are just so damn annoying. Was I supposed to like them just be I was the same age range as Robin for them to follow the child demographic? Pfft. It was Batman I only cared about; his badassery, the gadgets and the new take on the character.

  • @kwayneboy1524
    @kwayneboy1524 28 дней назад

    You shills call anything peak but this show was mid at best and terrible at worst.

    • @MCBOMB27
      @MCBOMB27 26 дней назад +1

      Could you elaborate, what didn't you like with the show? Am genuinely curious why your take is the way it is?

    • @kwayneboy1524
      @kwayneboy1524 25 дней назад

      ​@@MCBOMB27the overly edgy designs for these characters(like Batclaws really?) The story telling is so cliché and bland that I can by folks would love it because its as bland as everything else.
      The characters are one dimensional and ultimately at times unlikable.
      It lacks creativity and feels like a watered down BTAS.