Did the CELESTIAL Emergence Destroy ASGARD? - Eternals and Thor MARVEL Theory EXPLAINED
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- Опубликовано: 14 май 2024
- The Eternals ends with the death of a celestial, mid-emergence. But the visual of past Celestial hatchings show a planet being ripped apart--which looks very familiar. In this video we explore a pair of Reddit theories that the original planet Asgard was destroyed by an emergence like this, but then Odin used the space stone to put his planet back together--as a floating realm in space.
The theory holds that the space stone's residual energy held Asgard in place--and that Surtur's blow released it--hence the burst of blue tesseract-like energy. But we also theorize that this was not the first time the eternals used an infinity stone against the Celestials.
Could it be that the Guardians of the Galaxy Flashback of 8 beings banding together could actually be 8 Eternals on the planet Titan? Thanos and eros were Eternals, brothers of a kind, who differed on the best way to rebel against the celestials. Thanos wanted to kill half the planet, and Eros wanted to party--but the 8 others decided to share the energy of the power stone to stop the emergence.
This is why the Uni-Mind looks so similar to beings sharing the energy of the power stone. And of course they saved Titan--but the devastation form the reality stone made it uninhabitable. We explore this and many more Marvel Cinematic Universe cosmic theories in this video.
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0:00 Celestial Asgard Theory
1:00 Eternals and Celestials Recap
1:50 Celestial Destruction of Asgard
3:00 Asgard Created by the Space Stone
4:15 Space Stone Powered the BiFrost
5:32 Odin's Infinity Gauntlet
6:46 Hela's Tesseract Threat
7:38 Celestials in Norse Myth
9:06 Thanos, Eros and the Titan Emergence
11:38 Power Stone Destroyed Titan
Written and Hosted by Ryan Arey ( / ryanarey )
Edited by Harriet Lengel-Enright
#Eternals #Asgard #Emergence
You know, in all the horse and hours of MCU films and shows that have been released, we’ve seen a lot of different planets. Earth, Xandar, Vormir, Titan, the Thanos retirement village, plus all the other realms of Asgard. But one of these planets is not actually a planet. Asgard. It’s a giant floating disc with waterfalls that flow gracefully into space. So how can something this small have enough mass to produce the gravity we see on Asgard?
Well a couple redditors named Professor of Lies and Paramecia Antic have a theory that I think explains everything: Asgard was home to a celestial seed, that destroyed its original planet.
We’re going to go into more detail here, but this theory explains so much about Odin, Hela, the Norse mythology, the infinity stones, Guardians of the Galaxy, Thanos, and the infinity gauntlet.
So, just to back up a bit. In case you didn’t see the Eternals or need a refresher. That movie revealed that everything in the universe is created by space giants called the celestials. Celestials shape the raw energy of the universe into planets, stars, and galaxies. So, you like that screen you’re looking at right now? Thank a celestial.
The celestials breed by impregnating planets with baby embryos. These embryos then feed off the intelligent life on the planet. When there are enough people on the planet, the celestial is able to hatch. This destroys the planet, but I happen to know there’s a little baby celestial out there, shaping up new planets.
The Eternals are robots who were created to defend the people on each planet as they grow larger civilizations. And, spoiler alert for the Eternals, that movie ends with them betraying the celestials, and aborting a celestial mid hatch.
And this is where the theories of Professor of Lies and Paramecia Antic come into it. They theorized that Asgard was once an entire planet, that was home to a celestial seed. This would have been a long time ago, during the reign of Thor’s grandfather Bor, or back when Odin was a young man, all set on a-conquering
Asgardians are a very advanced civilization. And, their people live for an extremely long time [clips] So with a life expectancy like that, their planet would have become overpopulated. There would have been more than enough intelligent life for the celestial baby to feed off. In fact, maybe Asgard was originally a giant planet, the size of a gas giant. So it would have taken them longer to make enough people to hatch a space baby that big.
And then, the emergence happens. And some Asgardian leader-let’s just say Odin, realizes that they’re unable to stop it from happening. Unless he follows Thanos’s playbook: genocide.
Paramecia Antic goes on to theorize that Odin was able to save Asgard, by using the space stone. See, we know the space stone was once in Asgard’s possession because he left it in a vault on earth. 
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What do you think of the theory?
Dope theory 🤯🔥
I think my mind is blown 🤯
In Erik Voss’s voice- “ No no no no no no no no.”
Biggest problem with this, and Thanos’ plan in general, is that the universe will eventually repopulate its self. For the Celestials time is irrelevant, this just means they need to wait a little longer to make new Celestials. By destroying the infinity stones Thanos guarantees that no one will be able to stop, or slow down, the Celestials again.
Best f**king video 👍🏾 👍🏾 👍🏾 brilliant
I like the idea of Knowhere being Asgards Celestial, but I feel like Ego was the Foetus stage of a celestial in a diffetent planet that was destroyed. Maybe a world got seeded but then destroyed by an asteroid before the Celestial had time to develop, so the brain (the first part to grow) was sent flying into space.
There might have been intelligent life up until the point the asteroid wiped it out like the way the dinosaurs were wiped out on Earth but this asteroid may have been more like a planetoid that completely destroyed the planet, it could work
@@23Raind He didn't finish maturing-- the theory in the comment, as far as I understood it, was that only the brain (maybe a bit more of the brain stem, or other fleshy bits, but no weird exoskeleton armor thingy) actually finished developing( or close to finished, anyways.
Like the Celestials develop their inside/organic bits first, _before_ the armor.
So then when the impact happened, and the planet was destroyed, most of the organic bits and bobs-- like the skull --got annihilated, all that was left was a floating Celestial brain.
And somehow it learned how to control matter and form to planet around itself, which is what Ego says his backstory was.
I agree! Maybe that’s why Ego is doesn’t have a body and is slightly weaker than other celestials
@@23Raind it didn't even have to be fully developed before anything else-- it could have been all that survived the destruction of its planet, you know?
It could even have been an organic Celestial fetus, without having developed its outer armor yet, and all that survived of its fleshy bits was the brain and maybe a bit of its spinal chord, or something.
I mean, knowing Marvel Comics history as I do, I can safely say that stranger things have happened, LOL
@@23Raind he definitely seems to be a bit on the, let's say _dim_ side for a cosmic being, you know? 🙂
That's an awesome theory/idea. Just rewatch Thor 3 and was thinking about the Hulk fight on the edge of the "planet"
Flat earth
Wait a minute! There was a Thor3? 👋😲
@@collinsgeorgewill2580 thor Ragnarok
@@collinsgeorgewill2580 yes
@@collinsgeorgewill2580 bruh its like the best thor movie and you didn’t know it existed
I think most of this works if instead of Odin you use his pops, Bor. He was half giant and was probably bigger so the gauntlet would fit. This could work if Eitri knew how to make the gauntlet from his ancestor. Odin made the gauntlet to represent a story his father told him when he tried to collect all of the stones.
Always thought it was odd that Odin had a Thanos size Gauntlet. Bor being the gauntlets original intended user would make sense 👍.
@@FilthyGringo according to Hela that was fake. Its just for show that Asgard has the power and control
@@markcruz359 it may have been stolen after that
@@joshuajohn74 no in Ragnarok she knocked it over and said fake. Nobody else went into the weapons vault after except Loki to take the Tesseract and the Eternal Flame.
Bor was damn near a elder god
Feels like a stretch. Thanos always kept saying, even to Gamora, that there weren’t enough resources to sustain the population. Whether on Titan or her home world. And since he killed half the population everyone now has enough chicken and fresh water to sustain. Full bellies and peace. He never said anything about preventing celestials from destroying planets with their emergence. Thanos specifically said he doesn’t lie, or at least he told Gamora “I never taught you to lie”, so I don’t see him lying about his reasoning to kill half the population of each planet.
You have a point
this would of been way to ambitious trying to tie the celestials into IF/EG, if thanos went around saying hey if we don't do this celestials will break these planets apart and kill everyone.... thanos is no longer the big bad and the avengers would be the bad guys for not trying to help thanos come up with a better plan you would need a 3rd movie..... and then you are tied to the eternals being a hit and a huge focus of phase 4, witch in reality at the time they didn’t even know if they were doing a eternals movie and now since it kinda bombed they ignore it and focus on the Multiverse stuff
Eternals always have their memories wiped after each emergence. Maybe the price of Thanos getting free was for him to lose all memory of the Celestials.
@@digitalcurrents certainly would explain why they decided to make such an important note of Thena's Mahd Wy'ry condition. Could have something to do with that.
He had a solid love for the entity known as Death. Ending that much life would put him in her good graces. That idea wasnt in the movie. He was just a maniac in the movie.
Quick question/comment: in the comics, Eternals couldn’t have kids either. The reason Thanos and Eros were born blood brothers was because their eternal parents were gifted quantum bands as wedding presents, which gave them the unique ability to have children. Hence, Thanos and Eros being brothers and Thanos somehow being born with the deviant gene.
At least, that’s how I remember the comics explaining it. I could be remembering it incorrectly.
Soooo did the movie just introduce quantum bands the MCU and if that's the case maybe we can get Quasar now
@@satch422 the movie didn’t introduce them (at least not explicitly). They may explain the bands being why they’re biological brothers in future movies tho. If they do I’d expect them to either be related to Shang Chi’s 10 rings or related to ant man and the wasp: quantumanium.
Building on your comment a bit, I have a theory. Being as the Eternals are robots, and cannot reproduce (at least not by normal means), what if, in order to reproduce, they needed to utilize the Deviant gene? Deviants don't appear to be robotic at all. They are a biological species. So with this procedure, they create both Eros and Thanos. The creation of Eros is successful, but the creation of Thanos sees what should have been a recessive gene, become the equal/dominant gene. Hence, why Thanos looks and behaves the way he does.
@Benny Perez just for specificity sake, Thanos was born first, before Eros was conceived
This makes… so much sense! And it connects a lot of those little details from several different movies. Thanks for sharing this!
Wonderful!!! You did an amazing job tying all of that together and making it all seem so cohesive!!!
This theory could also explain Uru and make it the most rare metal in the universe now that Asgard is gone.
If it’s a special metal alloy that was the remnants of a Celestial egg and also infused with Space Stone power allowing it to be nearly indestructible (nearly… damn Hela.. you fine as hell, but SCARY! Wheew..) and allow it to access the BiFrost.. aka, Space travel!
So basically Uru is super valuable and rare and completely impossible to reproduce because of the super unique circumstances of its origin.
No metal is indestructible. Uru just requires extreme heat to melt. But a metal that strong would appear to be virtually indestructible. Yet, with some science and technology, you could break it. Or by using magic. Infinity Stones are also powerful enough to melt it. Hela and Wanda were able to break it. Stark was able to make it. So, it's not impossible to reproduce. But it's still so rare that even J.A.R.V.I.S. believed that it was impossible to synthesize.
Celestial's armor is made of vibranium, which would then make uru just modified vibranium. But that is not the case, as uru did not form from celestial armor.
Uru is not found on Asgard. All their supply comes from Nidavellir, a place so far away that even an intergalactic bounty hunter like Rocket didn't believe it was real. And we don't know where they got it from. So, it definitely didn't originate from Asgard.
Thanos could have just fought the Celestials with the full gauntlet. Even though they supposedly predate the infinity stones themselves. I'm not convinced the Celestials are immune to the stones.
inifinity stones are literal stones against a celestial. I bet they are not even living beings( highly advanced space robots created by a highly advanced living being)
Celestials are one of the most powerful beings in the universe. Then it's the living tribunal then God himself
Lol u guys gotta read comics
@@olnbgy4444 wrong
@@xarmacy857 Fill me in! Seriously want to know.
I like the part which is about Odin and Asgard, but about Thanos i think if he really was after stoping Celestials then he could just do the Snap on the planets which have the seed, not all of the Universe. And you also pointed out that killing half of a population will be Undone in 70 years which is nothing comparing to the seed's age.
That is not true. The last part about it being undone. The rate at which humans are reproducing is falling drastically.
Bern... have you seen the world population? What was it ten years ago? 20? 50? 100? You sir are incorrect.
Ammireza is accurate after the snap it would take less than a century to repopulate
@@elicheves5344 The US is below replacement level already.
Yeah but wiping half the universe is more efficient because new seeds will be planted and he will then have to do it again which isnt possible
You just pulled so many things together! Loved this theory and video so much. Enough to comment here…Through the life of RUclips I’ve probably commented under 10 times. Subscribed.
Isn't bifrost summond by dark magic? As heimdall mentioned before sending Hulk to earth in Infinity War. Storm breaker also can summon Bifrost. So it may not connect to space stone/ tesseract.
The Dark Magic is when Heimdall users the BiFrost/teleportation by summoning the All Fathers to let the Dark Magic run through him one last time.
This theory holds water. It's pretty amazing how most of the later MCU movies are intertwined and make sense of events from previous films. Pretty cool.
Aparenttly, the celestiales big mistake was letting the ethernals think they're living beings.
So glad I stumbled onto this channel. This.. THIS is the type of videos I love because it gets the brain juices flowing over stuff absolutely does not matter but is cool asf to think about
Thanks for this. The form of Asgard has long bothered me. Initially, in the first Thor film, I assumed it was indeed a 'realm' in the mythological sense, which in a nominally science fiction setting is in effect a separate universe, even if just a pocket universe. But by the third Thor film it was treated as just another planet, albeit a strangely shaped one. I appreciate having some kind of explanation.
I have a theory that absolutely every technology in the first 4 phases of the MCU is connected to the Infinity Stones. Repulsor tech is an attempt to replicate the power of the space stone (Why do you think Hydra weapons in First Avenger have the same sound as the repulsors?), The heart-shaped herb/Vibranium is imbued with the Power Stone's energy. Captain America's super-soldier serum is a replica of the heart-shape herb's effects. The Hulk is a replica of the super-soldier serum. Vision and Ultron are derived from the mind stone. Pym Particles are connected to the Reality stone (they allow travel through the multiverse).
I really enjoy this Theory and a lot of the videos you put up keep it up bro also dug is the cutest
Very detailed, I liked how you explain every scene that connects to eternals
Have to give a shout out to the writers at marvel! They write so well and everything is so interconnected that every single theory on this channel until the end of time could be actually wrong and yet still plausible upon its conception. It's just masterful.
The people who were sharing the power of the power stone were Watchers. Very famous in the comics. Not officially seen in the MCU except that cameo.
Great video really makes me think 👍🏾👍🏾
This is very well done a fantastic theory 👏 makes so much sense.
Love everything about this, except... I believe with all the damage we were shown to Arishem, that there was a Celestial battle that resulted in the Celestial now called Knowhere to lose his head, but hey, this could work as well as Odin could have caused Arishem to be damaged? I guess?
That’s was actually Knull, he is the god of darkness. He created the symbiote sword and cut off a celestials head. That head would later be used to build a city known as Knowhere.
Actually, Odin and his brothers, Vili and Vé, killed Ymir. The myth doesn't say if Búri or Borr were involved, and these three brothers were descendants of Ymir, but not his children.
It's a great theory though.
You cant compare MARVEL with actual mythology. So much was changed to make the storys work with MARVEL
@@nimbusnimbus.IV. At 7:37, he mentions Norse Mythology, and that's the part of the video I referred to in my comment.
You're awesome, dont ever stop! :)
Dude what an amazing video! My mind is blown.
In the MCU Jemiah was the name of the celestial thats head is now knowhere, in the comics, he was decapitated by Knull the symbiote God, with what would become the Necro sword. Just to clear that up.
Came for this, I was pretty sure the nowhere head was already pretty well explained. I mean I dont read comics or make theory videos but I even know that
Eitri also says about Stormbreaker, “A king's weapon. Meant to be the greatest in Asgard. In theory, it could even summon the Bifrost." Which I’ve always grabbed on to & fits very well with this 👏 but the floating head, Knowhere, wasn’t that The Symbiote King Knull who decapitated the Celestial?
But since Stormbreaker was forged after the destruction of Asgard it couldn't have residual energy from the Space stone. Even if that was the origin of Asgard as we know it which I don't think it is.
I’m finally a subscriber been watching for a while
Such good material. all these theories are blowin my mind!
OGM, you're brilliant! All this makes so much sense. I just watched your "Thanos was Right" video, and between this and the multiverse this seems like the next big thing in the MCU, like the Infinity
War. I was assuming that with Disney's acquisition of Fox, that they would lead to Galactus, but maybe not. Where do you think the Xmen and Fantastic 4 could lead the MCU?
5:58 Did Odin send the reality stone to the Collector, or was it Loki? This was always a little confusing to me.
it was in some end credit scene, but I think the warriors 3 went to the collector and gave him the aether in the form of the reality stone.
@@josephconley1599 ....... yes that much is clear. I think Sylvia's point is who ordered them to deliver the reality stone to the collector? Odin or Loki disguised as Odin
I think it was really Odin who sent it there. I think it was one of the last things he did before Loki took over. Loki is to power hungry he would never relinquish an infinity stone. Just my thoughts 💭
Yeah that's right
@@R_P_G_1 I would agree, but Loki's not only power hungry but also wise in unexpected ways...
That was a fantastic video, thank you, lots to think about.
Pretty Sick Analogy. I Love this theory breakdown!!
In the comics, Ego was created by the Celestials to combat Galactus.
I thought The Stranger created Ego.
The first question that needs asked is if Asgards origin is the same or different in the MCU vs Norse Mythology. In Norse mytholgy it's not a planet necessarily. It like all other places are created from the brain, blood, and bones of Ymir the giant. The original being.
Great theory! It definitely had me thinking!
Very very interesting! It makes a lot of sense. Even the Ego part.
Your theory fits almost too perfectly within the timeline of events inside the MCU. That’s exactly why I think you’re right. As always, Ryan completely kills it when it comes to these breakdowns and explanations! Even Doug had a few good points!
Except that Thanos never talked about Celestials and said the reason for his genocide was the universe not having enough resources to sustain the population.
Given the scale of the celestials in The Eternals then in the Guardians flashback, Eson either had to be a baby or he was standing on the largest planet that can be imagined. Just look at his size in The Eternals, he dwarfs earth. Yet he's standing on the planet in the Guardians flashback. How big was the f'in planet!
Celestials can change their size
Ego is perfect example of how not all celestials are planet dwarfing giants
Talk about connecting the dots ..
Well done 👏
Love this. More theories please
This theory is really awesome. It just makes too much sense that Thanos is an eternal and when he found out the truth, he set his life goal on stopping them
I like it. Although thanos never admitted to celestials and instead said he wanted worlds to have better life, he’s also not someone I would think to tell others his full reasoning.
it all makes sense to me. nice video
This is your best video... By far.
You know that’s funny I was just thinking about this the other day. My conclusion was that the reason why Asgard was the size it was, is do to the previous form of Ragnarok, that had destroyed the planet , and then this form of Asgard coalesced. I believe ragnarok is a cyclical event in the Thor mythology.
It is an amazing theory and basically culminates all concept and theory from anvengers infinity war and eternals
And it also basically explains the motives behind thanos genocidal plan for the whole universe to stop the emergence once and for all as ajak told us the blip stopped the emergence from happening
Hell of a theory! I liked that explanation.
This is so
interesting and awesome theory.👍🏼
This theory could also be applied to Greek Mythology as well telling the story of the fight between the Gods(Eternals) and the Titans (Celestials). I wonder if Eros was sent by Zeus to help fight the Celestials.
Eternals are the embodiment of gods and heroes of many mythologies around the world and most of them are taken from the Greek mythology:
Ikeris is Icarus who flew too close to the sun (although Icarus was not a god)
Eros is Eros the son of Aphrodite and Ares
Phastos is Hephaestus son of Hera and Zeus (in one of the versions of greek mythology) and he is the god of fire, a blacksmith and a craftsman, hence the similarity between him and Phastos since one of Phastos' abilities is to create new things and that's what we saw him did in the film for the human race to help them with their daily needs and to evolve
Thena is Athena the goddes of wisdom and tactic in war
Ajak is Ajax one of the heroes of greek mythology and fought in the trojan war with Achilles
Sersi is Circe the sorceress who is the daughter of the sun god Helios and an ocean nymph Perse.
Let me know if I missed some eternal who's taken from the Greek mythology.
(And yes I know the other eternals are also taken from other myths such as Kingo who's Kingu in the babylonian myth and son of the gods Abzu and Tiamat...).
@@thefallen6114 According to the comics Eyernals and the Greek Gods are two different groups who made a pact for the worship on Earth. The Olympians are from a different dimension called Olympus( like the Ashardians) were manipulated by the Celestials or are born on earth. The MCU could try to merge them together but I doubt it since Zeus will appear in the next Thor movie.
@ I hope Zeus or Hercules would make an appearance in Thor Love And Thunder that would be epic. Especially finally introducing the greek gods in the mcu.
And then wonderwomen comes with her lasso of truth
RΔ-ΛTREIDES
Only to get her ass kicked.
I find it interesting that the theory implies that Stormbreaker draws a bit of power from the space stone, because it can summon the bifrost
The power that both Odin and Thor call upon is called the "Odin Force" they are able to summon the Bifrost with this.
@@markcruz359 But Thor couldn't summon the Bifrost when he had Mjolnir, he could only call Heimdall to summon the Bifrost, but with Stormbreaker he can summon it on his own (Unless I'm mistaken with Mjolnir??)
@@EnderHero at that time Thor didn't know that he's always had the powers within. He relied on Mjolnir to summon his powers.
Its not till Ragnarok that he learns from Odin that he's always had the powers within.
In Infinity War the reason he wanted a new weapon forged was not just cause he needed a weapon but he needed a way to focus his powers through Stormbreaker.
Both Stormbreaker and Odin's staff gave them access to the Bifrost. Not sure about Mjolnir it was never mentioned.
@@EnderHero i think what i meant was that the stormbreaker and Odin's staff as well as Heimdall's sword acts as keys to the bifrost. They never harnessed powers from the space stone. Its just the Bifrost that harness powers from the space stone.
@@markcruz359 Hmm could be
Awesome theory video!
Bro you just made my child soul Happier 🙌🙌 great video!
I know this has no place here, buuut. What if Shang Chi's 10 rings are in reality the 10 rings of a pack of eternals left from a failed hatch, say the one in Ta'Lo, which had apparently many cities much bigger than Earth's (a place apparently ripe for hatching). And maybe that's what the World Eater really was: a Deviant who beat its Eternals, leaving 10 rings to be left adrift and ended up in Earth.
Maybe.
tbh the theory with ther rings that its eternals thats good kinda makes sense but ta'lo? i dont think so ta'lo is a pocket dimension within earth of something like that and celestials arent there or its even whole another universe and that world eater is somethign else
Ryan good job you finally found my eternals theory. You did get one point incorrect though. In eternals the deviants evolved when they absorbed an eternal. So Im pretty sure Thanos got absorbed as an eternal into a deviant and his mind was so strong it took over the deviant he was absorbed into.
This makes sense because Gilgamesh’s memories made the deviant show feelings towards thena right before she killed him.
That was a fun good break down! Damn Good!
ah I just came back from school saw this and after a tiring day feels really good to watch this :)
Thanos as a synthezoid I can accept - explains why he only had adopted daughters. However, his MO as he described it was more tree-hugger to save the universal ecosystem. Could also be that the boss dude celestial had Luke take the droids to Anchorhead to have their memories wiped after the failed iStone hookup plan.
If the people in the footage were really the Eternals of Titan, then they are already dead. No one left to mind wipe.
But I have a crazier theory. Eight of the ten Eternals of Earth, were the eight Eternals of Titan minus Eros and Thanos. They were mind wiped and then sent to Earth. They were joined by two new Eternals to replace Eros and Thanos. The two new ones were most probably Druig and Makkari, as they were the most emotional and childlike, signs of them being fresh and not having their minds wiped over and over many times before.
Did the celestials emerge on Asgard?
This is such an in depth theory and I absolutely love it
Outstanding breakdown!
It all makes sense except for the fact that there was supposed to be 12 Eternals on Earth. And why don't they have 6 fingers on each hand to match what's in Earth's real history of the gods? I was expecting the Celestials to have 6 fingers as well.
The plot hole is too deep, but it can still be fix. The population will grow back, Thanos knows this, so his snap not only cut the pouplation in half, but will also cap the population at a certain number, so that the emergency can not happen.
There's an extra spark on your face, while telling this one. Great vid.
This video blew my mind!!
So if Asgard’s Bifrost is space stone power, how is Stormbreaker able to summon it too?
It’s not the bifrost is powerful cosmic energy
It's not. It's just a theory
@@bern9642 It's not a theory. Thor used Stormbreaker to bring himself, Rocket and Groot to Wakanda. You don't remember his big entrance when everyone is fighting the Outriders?
@@rastusgaither1537 obviously Stormbreaker can summon the bifrost. That's not what he was saying is a theory. Asgard's bifrost existing because of the space stone is what he's referring to when he says "its just a theory"
@@hylianglitchmobber7570 yeah exactly.
Interesting theory. It was obviously not in the cards when Infinity Saga was released because Thanos would then have expressed his motivations differently from what was shown. He specifically pronounced how to many mouths to feed lead to overuse of ecosystems instead of saying that to many mouths to feed created nourishment for hatchlings.
Maybe there is some clever way to retcon it. But it likely needs some amount of Thanos not fully understanding what’s really going on or what’s at stake.
Erasing half of everything living doesn’t make his task complete. And after his second snap is content that his task is fulfilled.
But in reality it just postpones more hatchlings into the future. And at the speed living species tend to breed and the vast time scales the Celestials live through critical mass for hatchlings will soon be reached again.
That could be the way, I guess. Thanos grasping enough of the actual truth to propel him to action but still lacking lots and lots of what is really goin on.
Will be interesting to see what way they’ll go with it all.
He had is memory wiped. Externals constantly have their memories reset. However Thanos is in a state of mad weary ( don’t remember how to spell it) same as Thena. He remembers destruction and something about overpopulation. His mind filled in blanks with “resources.”
Maybe Thanos was being manipulated by his paramour, Mistress Death. His understanding of the actual events and solution were altered to motivate him.
@@dbsasuke Thats a way of thought that is easy and plausible enough to be used. :-) Great! A faulty memory wipe of some sort. And a backstroy where the Titans where actually Eternals and, for some reason, they where leaders of the societies on their planet and Thanos was only survivor... or a left over because the other's memory wipe was succesful and they where sent to another part of the Universe for the next assignement.
You've shown me how it could be made to make sense. :-) Thankyou!
You are my favorite professor of cinema studies!
You had me with the norse mythology and celestials! Maybe that's where Marvel got their inspiration from? I love the idea that Ymir was a celestial and it makes sense from the description of Tiamat's and Ymir's bodies and how their bodies were used to create a planet.
If the bifrost is powered by the space stone then what's the explanation for Stormbreaker being able to call down the bifrost?
Stormbreaker can only be weilded by the rightful ruler of Asgard. It's power, much like Thor's hammer, is connected to the host planet.
@@n.e.z4369 but there was no more host planet. Asgard was destroyed before Stormbreaker was created.
Wild Theory: The metal known as Uru was a native ore of Asgard that was infused with the space stone's energies when Asgard was preserved. The dwarves of Nidavallir could have been gifted the Uru, because only their facilities around their dying star could refine it. Not enough for them to make a weapon for themselves, but enough to make multiple weapons for the Asgardians, in exchange for Odin's protection.
With other gods and god realms being introduced to the MCU in Phase 4 (Ta Lo in Shang-Chi & Egyptian gods in Moon Knight), I wonder if they're gonna keep the Asgardians as "aliens" or retcon their origin to be more like actual gods borne from Norse myth like in the comics .
Love your rants and theories, do any of them pan out?
8:37 nowhere came from knull (creator of the symbiotes) slaying a celestial, not odin.
No, we literally saw the prophecy of Ragnarok forfilled, Surtur was reborn from the eternal flame, raised his giant flaming sword and plunged it into Asgard, destroying the planet.
Sorry mate.
You weren't listening. He said that what we saw as Asgard was a portion of the original WHOLE planet after it was destroyed by an emergence, and Odin used the space stone to keep that portion together.
That’s a great theory! I do disagree that Odin is the one who killed the celestial whose head is floating in the galaxy. I think it might have been galactus
the person who killed him was the god knull who then used this power to create symbiotes such as venom and riot but the mcu do have there changes so you could be correct
You are a highly efficient analyst.
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No. Surtur destroyed Asgard
*No need to thank me*
The second time yes, but why was it just a chunk of rock when he destroyed it?
If Thanos wanted the snap to remove life from the universe, you could look at it as a method of quick control over the Celestials as removing life would remove the energy source for the celestial in a given planet and slow their emergence. Love you videos!
That’s an awesome theory thank you!
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That was a really good one
Theories are like fun yummy ideas for the mind to toy with. It is like reading a book, but it is being told and you are to put the pieces together. That brings joy to my very creative mind... I can just dream of these ideas coming together, even though so many times they don't lol.
That is a pretty damn good theory and very well explained
Damn... this was good!
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Love it. I feel like I am ready for any battle of MCU theory with my beer buddy’s lol. But for real I am going to be thinking about this for the next few hours…., 😮
Best theory man 🤝 10/10
Its awesome man
When he mentioned Yamir I was like AOT AOT !!
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Damn. Thats was excellent. Every bit of it made sense.
I love these deep theories , jus makes everything mind blowing
Best theory for the explanation of Asgard I’ve yet heard.
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This is an absolute amazing theory.
This was incredible