@@wealwaysbeenhere1340 Yeah it sounds funny in modern times, it just means he was making cassette tape copies of songs off the vinyl albums. If it was 2019 he'd be bluetoothed his buddy's phone to his or copied off a usb.
@@wealwaysbeenhere1340 I grew up in the 80s and sometimes I would have to call the radio station to request a song then sit there with my finger on the record button until it came on
Why isn't there a bigger movement in society to punish systemic functionaries who are proven to have irresponsibly convicted innocent people and to have effectively ruined their lives? It is astounding. All these idiots who run around calling themselves progressive seem silent as mimes when it comes to making these persons absolutely accountable for the damage inflicted on innocent persons. At the very least those judges who reside over these cases should be removed from the bench expeditiously and if it is found that members of the jury were known to have ignored the circumstantial nature of the evidence presented they should be severely fined commensurate to double the wages lost by the wrongly convicted.
@@MaximusWolfe I'm a true conservative as I love our country and all it's people AND I SAY HELL YES LOCK THEIR ASSES UP! I also say we need a fairness in spending when it comes to criminal prosecutions. If the govt or the state spends a million dollars to prosecute then you should be entitled to similar funds to defend yourself! No more guilty pleas to avoid bankruptcy..
Solved. As the years passed, the case continued to fall apart. One of the witnesses, Gary Wahl, recanted his testimony. He claimed that the police forced him to say that Johnny confessed to him. In September 1995, Missouri Governor Mel Carnahan reviewed the case and granted Johnny Lee Wilson a pardon, exonerated of all charges. He concluded that the police had fed Johnny information about Pauline's murder, and that his confession was false. Johnny was released after serving nearly nine years in prison and was finally reunited with his mother and grandmother. As of 2017, he still lives with his mother, and continues to mow lawns. He states that he is not bitter about the wrongful conviction, and has happily moved on with his life. Pauline's real killer is believed to be Chris Brownfield; however, he was never charged with her murder. Reportedly, Johnny sued the county and the sheriff and was awarded a settlement.
Well I'm glad it finally works I won't be happy until they start holding people responsible for getting false confessions and false convictions and making them go to jail
@@aaronbradley3232 , well, in all honesty.. that is the reason why so many people (men and women) want to start with those who file false rape and child molestation charges. That may seem like it has nothing to do with this, but honestly.. it is every crime. When we let slide even a false accusation (whether it comes to charges or not) people think they are allowed to get away with things.
I am glad Johnny Wilson is free. These investigators need to serve some time for what they did to him!! It’s ridiculous to put an innocent man in prison!!
I wasn't impressed either, & I'm a former Criminal Investigator; You can't Always say that a con in prison is lying about something, cause these guys tell stories sometimes, but they also tell the Truth sometimes as well.
As a parent I'm appalled at the way the police railroaded Johnny. It's the same thing they did to Brendan Dassey. And the worst part of it is that this kind of thing happens all the time.
Unfortunately, yes. Why is it that cops don't like their jobs? If a person is not a people person, with compassiom, and genuine caring, then why do they become cops?
Johnny's case breaks my heart--so easily could've been my younger brother (also named Johnny). A stark reminder never to talk to the cops without a lawyer, even if you are innocent and want to help the investigation as much as you can. (Had to smile at the mention of him spending the day with a friend taping records. Ah, the '80s.)
Dee Wampler was a great attorney. I had forgotten about the case with Johnny until watching this episode. Mr. Wampler was still practicing law when he passed away back in October, 2021. He was 81 years old, and passed away while working a trial in St. Louis.
Its abhorrent. Ignorance at its highest. How could poor Johnny have orchestrated all of that? Makes me sick that even now police still zone in on slow minded people for crimes 😢🤒😑😒
I am disabled and suffer from disabilities,but I would give a piece of my mind to those two detectives for bullying that young man,they had no right trying to bully him like that,they tricked him and then trapped him and bullied him into submission,into confessing something that he did not do,detectives like them are disgusting and should be fired.
Exactly. I totally agree with you. I was in a special ed class as a kid. My son has Aspergers. He had a learning disability. We are not disabled and not retarded!!! Johnny looks and is normal to me. Like everyone els. How dare they call him that word. No one has that right without knowing a person and researching what they really have. I myself feel offended by this, and I'm sure Johnny would too. I think law enforcement saw him as a little "different" and used him as the easy target to get commissions.
@Ryan Ya. It does sound really harsh. It was a different tho when that word accepted and commonly used. Johnny was more on the autism spectrum, like high functioning or Asperger's or something like that. He was normal just a little slower
To the people who were getting tiffed at Robert stack and the show saying mentally retarded this is for you and whoever wants to read. This is a long read and I might hurt some feelings. fair warning Back In the day mentally retarded was the norm and term because disabled was physically disabled, and mentally disabled was categorized as mentally retarded, it wasn’t offensive till later years just like midgets and small people. And also the DA said it best; “Who would put a 3rd grader in jail” My 2 friends have the “disability”/“mental retardation” Johnny has so I feel I can explain this in layman’s term least about my friends. I’ll start with my friend who’s 29. he just is immature beyond belief like spongebob and doesn’t really handle responsibility well and he lives with his mom and his son is raised by his mom cause he acts like he’s his baby brother. he legit acts how we acted when we were in grade 6 while he’s 29 and finds odd things from that age fun you’d think he would grow out of. He picks on girls thinking it’s flirting like pulling hair. he is astoundingly shocked by anything a normal person of his age would do like go to a blind date or even just ask a girl for her number. he goes out of his way to make people like him by giving gifts of cool things he owns himself. Eg; I told him I really like his hat one day that he had on the wall and asked him where he got it so I could get a similar one’ just making conversation thinking nothing of it... He threw the hat at me saying have it and I checked the price inside after I said yes cause I thought he just wanted to give me the hat cause I loved it and it expensive as hell. He then started asking me; trying to pry out of me later what I liked of stuff in his room when I wasn’t giving him enough attention, me full knowing that he wanted to give me stuff, I just changed the subject. It it’s happened hundreds of times since My other friend is 24(has a lot of the same similar things about him as 29) and he acts older than 29, he acts about 13, He goes out of his way to be a show off around people to try and impress them for starters like a 13 year old, like i assume everyone did at 13. He’ll drink booze like it’s water if I pour too strong of a drink for myself, he wants to keep up and be like me and his brother but tries to play it cool like we don’t know? he can’t and everytime he does’ he pukes. He’ll try to fable stories we know aren’t true and things along those lines and even make up stories about him and I doing things together for strangers infront of people who know it ain’t true. Also too he has baby toys all along his room like a 13 year old would (not a collector or for keepsakes) he has Thomas the train and bat man bed sheets, a race car bed, constantly so many random teddy bears to sleep with in his bed and night light cause he’s scared of the dark. But he tries to hide it and play it off when his brother and I go for a walk to the river at night without flash lights. but I noticed He won’t stay any further than 2ft away just like a 13 year old or younger would around older people when they’re scared of the dark. Two things my friends both have in common.... (I know and they know they got the disability, their parents all told me about it and it’s not something you bring up to someone normally so I don’t say anything to them about it I just observe)..... is though for sure... they don’t get they’re not acting the way they should for their age and can’t process what’s going on like serious situations, it just doesn’t register for them unless someone’s like “hey bad idea” they know but they don’t, It’s almost like the ability for both of my friends to weigh pros and cons before acting isnt there; something too I believe is part of the disability. Their mentally is that of some I imagine that just had a switch turned off in their brain and they stay whatever age the switch went off. It’s not like they have a mentally of 10 at 20 and when their 40 it’ll be a mentally of 20. It’s just they kinda stopped where they’re at. I’m glad Johnny is free and he can get on with his life and I just wanted to spread some light on my experiences and give sympathy and empathy to Johnny. (sorry for the long story and likely gramatical errors.)
I remember calling the "Unsolved Mysteries" telecenter the day after the Coral Pogue segment aired, to get her contact information in England. My grandfather had died 11 years before I was born, and I was going to contact Mrs. Pogue to see if she could draw a picture of my grandfather, who I had never met and had never even seen a picture of him. My intention was to give the picture to my mother and see if Mrs. Pogue's drawing resembled him, but I never followed through with it. I imagine Coral Pogue has passed away now or is so old she doesn't do drawings any longer.
From what I found, she died in 2001. She couldn't have been all that old. She looked like she might have been in her 50s or so during the Unsolved Mysteries segment. That was filmed in 1990.
In September 1995, Wilson was pardoned by the governor of Missouri, Mel Carnahan, citing that Wilson's confession was coerced, and that there was no evidence tying him to the crime.
I am a supporter of LEOs, but the Johnny Lee Wilson case (among several that were on this series) infuriated me. Those are the worst kind of cops: they like the power of being a cop, but don't want to actually do the job.
Agreed, strongly. It's of critical importance to keep that kind of mentality OUT of law enforcement (or any position of authority, for that matter), especially since they seem drawn to the profession by their very nature.
David Welsh “I’m a supporter of LEOs”. I’m a supporter of anyone who does their job correctly. But corrupt cops are the worst pieces of shit on this earth.
@@JH-qy8no He was manipulated, the “police” constructed a case that fit the evidence they had found and ignored any mitigating reasons like the costume jewellery that belonged to his grandmother and that the so called stolen underwear was his mother’s in his mother’s drawer. Johnny was fed a narrative and softened so he’d admit to the part he was cast in it, after being brought in under a misleading pretence that his mother and grandmother weren’t made aware of (if he had to be questioned it should have been with a parent figure given his emotional maturity). As for why the legal system kept denying Johnny a chance at justice, I’m betting stupid pride and covering up corruption.
I hate it when people generalize ALL police as incompetent just because a few bad apples are incompetent or corrupt. Besides, "Unsolved Mysteries" showcases just a teeny amount of these said bad apples and immediately you lump those that are truly hardworking and competent ones together with the trash. Anyway, there are incompetents in all professions including doctors, lawyers, teachers, etc. So, by your reasoning, ALL employees in ALL professions are incompetent because of a few idiots.
@@ewaleokadia76 A few bad apples ??? There is corruption that involves entire forces....quit living under a rock! And if its only a few....how many season of USM is their ? You watch every episode like I have....count ALL the episodes that expose lazy/incompetent/corrupt Police Departments/Members...then try and rationalize it as "only a few bad apples" I'll also take this time to point out, look whats happening in Canada and Australia...Police are barricading people inside buildings to "self-isolate" from a virus that kills less then 1% of people who contract it....a look at back in History shows the first people to turn on the its citizens are the Police...Police do NOT care about "us" all they do is want to protect their pension...so following orders is following orders...I recently just broke off a friendship with a RCMP officer cause....she full heartily agreed that a law we talked about is total b/s and she doesn't believe it...BUT if it came down to it she would enforce it upon me...someones shes known for 20 years... How could can I trust that person? When the orders come to load people on trains...where do you draw the line....and that's going to be a reality soon enough
Poor Jhonny, he didn't stand a chance in this is case forced in giving a false confession, not to mention the legal process is a joke. Jhonny lost so many years for a crime he didn't commit.
The last story is such a mystery. At first sight you say to yourself that Heck most probably punched him and then the fumes killed him, but it doesn't explain how the guy could have died with such small amount of carbon monoxide in the garage. Heck says there was no smoke in the garage, that the truck wasn't running...so how did he die? It's the type of case you'd see in a Sherlock Holmes novel, really weird. 😕
Anything is possible, but it could be that the guy turned off the engine and collapsed as he was walking out of the garage. The show did not say whether any of the windows were slightly open for him to bereath in Carbon Monoxide while in the car. He was impaired anyway so he probably wasn't going to make logical decisions.
Sorry I'm late to the party. I've always wondered about this but I don't think there's anything more to it. He was drunk and died from carbon monoxide exposure. I'm a nurse and can tell you first-hand that even a few minutes of the fumes can cause serious problems. Being drunk causes inhibited reaction time as well. The fact that there was no evidence of assault on the body is what sealed it for me. Also, while this certainly isn't proof, the guy who saw him last appears to be very straightforward and truthful. I don't see him being cooperative and even pushing for the truth to be told if he knew more than he was saying. 🤷 Guess we'll never know. Maybe it should be a lesson to not go out drinking and stir up trouble.
Dude was drunk, out of shape, and likely already suffering from carbon monoxide poisoning by the time he turned off the truck. His uncle saying that he was smart enough not to do that completely ignores the effects of alcohol. People do stupid things when drunk. Hell, he might not have died of carbon monoxide directly, it combined with the alcohol might've triggered a heart attack.
I am a fairly young police officer and watching the Johnny Wilson case made me sick. Fortunately, with the advancement technology and cameras, those type of “forced confessions” are a thing of the past IMO. I by no means condone the actions of those investigators, I just can’t comprehend what they were thinking. My guess is being a small town police department, they just wanted to close the case quickly and put the town at ease by getting a suspect and convicting him. Johnny was the perfect mark and fit the bill because he knew the victim and was mentally incompetent. I’m glad his case was revisited and he was found innocent.
Cc: granted Johnny Lee Wilson a pardon, exonerated of all charges. He concluded that the police had fed Johnny information about Pauline's murder, and that his confession was false. Johnny was released after serving nearly nine years in prison and was finally reunited with his mother and grandmother.
What always gets me in these cases like Johnnies is when someone else confesses with corroboration and they dismiss THAT confession. It's like cops are possessed by the devil to keep an innocent person in jail bc that's the explanation left one can come up with.
Wonder if those cops were bullies in school or related to the kids who bullied Johnny during his school years. What other reason would they have for incarcerating an innocent kid. Maybe some were jealous of his good reputation and relationships with the victim.
Most likely lazy ass police work, and just taking what that other guy Gary said at face value. They latched onto the first guy they found and got tunnel vision, pisses me off how they let him go on trial too, even though he was clearly slower and was confused about it all
In 1993, Wilson requested a pardon from then governor of Missouri Mel Carnahan, which was granted in September 1995 after a year-long investigation of the case. It concluded that there was no physical evidence tying Wilson to the crime, and that the authorities took advantage of Wilson's mental defect to coerce a confession. However, Brownfield has not been prosecuted for the crime, nor anyone else, and the murder of Martz remains unsolved. Wilson settled with Lawrence County for $615,000 in 2003, after filing a federal lawsuit.
I feel the Kenneth Engie case is pretty clear cut, he pulled in the garage, with the car on he thought he could make it into the house turned the car off he collapsed from either being drunk or the fumes were getting to him, their were enough fumes still in the room and he died from it.
I'm like Curtis Heck. Even if I fight someone and kick their ass I still wouldn't let them in a vulnerable situation they could die in. Years ago I got jumped by some guy on the railroad tracks and knocked him out because I have boxing experience and was just defending myself. He fell on the tracks but I drug him far away from the tracks into the shade. I didn't want a train to come by and hit him or for him to die of heat stroke. I didn't leave until he started to wake up. I still don't know why the guy even attacked me in the first place. This happened about 15 years ago. I still see him around town sometimes.
THE GUY ON THE GARAGE FLOOR I THINK HE PASSED FROM DRINKING FOR A BIT WHILE WAITING, CAME TO AND THE GUY HE WAS WAITING FOR HADNT COME SO HE TURNED OFF THE TRUCK AND STARTED TO EXIT GARAGE BUT DIDNT MAKE IT CUZ OF THE CARBON MONOXIDE.
I don't know if it was an UM episode or a Forensic File episode, but, a slow man was also coerced and led into a confession. They even recorded it! A lawyer found out about it and ordered a retrial. He was pissed! At the end of the show he call the law enforcement names and said come talk to me like that! Say that to my face!! He was so disgusted that a person with special needs was mistreated and abused by them. I will forever be impressed by this lawyer.
NINE years in prison and the only thing he's guilty of is living in a town full of incompetent officials. Shame shame shame on the police and judge for this mistreatment of this man.
@@user-yp3oj5se1i No, most cops are decent. Like in any profession, a few bad apples spoil the bunch. On "Unsolved Mysteries" the cops are either corrupt or incompetent.
@@ewaleokadia76 All of them are working for psychopaths/the establishment against the majority of people. They spend more time going after somebody that stole something rather than going after child abusers and they shouldn't be letting religious businesses deal with their child raping priests as they are. They know priests are being moved to different churches where they rape again and again. They know tobacco harms/kills yet they don't stop that crime because their controllers are making money from selling tobacco. Same with alcohol. "No, most cops are decent." wish full thinking and very obviously not true. Well over 99% of them are pathetic and cowardly scum at least because they are paid money to keep things as they are by force/physical violence. That's without exaggerating anything everybody knows this. You are an ignorant coward if you think otherwise. All police all over the world are inherently corrupt because money inherently corrupts and they work with mafia gangs. The very very few good ones are ignored or bullied/gaslighted or killed. Mike Rupert was a police man he tried to tell the police that the CIA are the biggest importers of illegal drugs into the U.S. ruclips.net/video/X-xdb0cACUc/видео.html
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This is the kind of shit that happens to anyone who is slightly different than anyone else. Johnny Wilson is such a sweetie pie. It upset me to watch this...and It brought tears to my eyes. The family of Johnny Wilson should of sued even the judge. I bet they would of won too. Nothing was said about if they decided to later on, or if everyone involved was fired. Would be nice to know if both did happen. I read all the time about people getting fired for abusing their authority related job....most are police officers that nit only ger fired, but go to jail. No matter what your job of authority entales, it does not make you above the law. You will end up eventually answer to the ones you have broken. What is the difference between a school yard bully and a person who abuses their position of authority? None. Either way, scum has to answer for what they did at some point, and the victim gets justice by usually taking the law into their own hands.
It seems that a large percentage of these cases involve crooked cops. Cops always act so defensive of their profession, and yeah there are definitely many good cops too but this reputation didn't come from nowhere. Also, 71? Johnny Lee might have been a bit slow but this strikes me as a lack of education and confidence more than a true case of being mentally challenged. Probably some autism involved. Some people just get thrown under the bus of the system and he strikes me that way. They completely overacted his character in the reenactments.
@Sir John Hammond *_This is a comment from a year ago that appears above yours saying Johnny Still lives with his mother!_* Johnny Cage 1 year ago Solved. As the years passed, the case continued to fall apart. One of the witnesses, Gary Wahl, recanted his testimony. He claimed that the police forced him to say that Johnny confessed to him. In September 1995, Missouri Governor Mel Carnahan reviewed the case and granted Johnny Lee Wilson a pardon, exonerated of all charges. He concluded that the police had fed Johnny information about Pauline's murder, and that his confession was false. Johnny was released after serving nearly nine years in prison and was finally reunited with his mother and grandmother. *As of 2017, he still lives with his mother, and continues to mow lawns.* He states that he is not bitter about the wrongful conviction, and has happily moved on with his life. Pauline's real killer is believed to be Chris Brownfield; however, he was never charged with her murder. Reportedly, Johnny sued the county and the sheriff and was awarded a settlement.
I’ve seen somewhat of the same comment on every single unsolved mysteries episode I do believe that in this day n age that 78% of cops are corrupted they beat people they falsely accuse people and so much more it’s sad (this is just a statement of what I’ve witnessed on tv and in public court cases I’ve seen)
@@chrismccauley5727 well 78 is a pretty exact figure lol but having just binged Forensic Files, it's unfortunately done nothing to change my opinion on this.
I feel horrible for Johnny. I have an uncle that's mentally handicapped and it's so easy to manipulate them. This is so very sad. I don't even know Johnny and I strongly feel that he didn't do it. 3 people examined him and 2 said he was incompetent to stand trial. He clearly didn't understand any of it. This really makes me so sad. 😿😿😿♥️♥️♥️
"We just want to put you away for murder for the rest of your life. We don't care if you're guilty or not." Don't tell me that this could have happened if he had John had been born into a wealthy, influential family! 👿
It's obvious that Johnny didn't kill anyone. Nor was he fit for trial. The boy clearly had no idea what he was attesting to. This is such a sad story. By the time they figure out who actually committed the crime he's not going to have any family members left to welcome him home where he belongs...
As horrible as Chris Brownfield is, I do admire him being willing to face the consequences for his crimes to save an innocent man. For a vicious murderer of the elderly, that's a very selfless act.
I think in the last story, Horatio Sanz was sitting in the truck and the garage filled with fumes, and he turned off the engine but was too overcome to make it to the door. That seems like what most likely happened. I don't think William H Macy had anything to do with his death.
...not sure if it was an automatic garage door. If it was it's possible he closed the door with the remote when he entered and just sat there with the engine on. Being drunk, just sitting there for no good reason is totally possible. Then it's more likely he accidentally killed himself with CO. It was too late when he turned off the engine. Falling to the floor didn't help since CO is heavier than air, he was inhaling it til he died.
Those detectives should've been FIRED!!!! I Know what I'm talking about, as I'm a retired LEO, & at least that One investigator with the Sheriff's dept. Had the sense to see the Bulls*** that had occurred! So glad he won a lawsuit, but it wasn't enough!
The world really *FAILED* Johnny Wilson. Just over...and over...and freaking OVER. And yet the system still stood by it's wrongdoing. The system is hopelessly broken. Down with the system! 🔥
Holy lazy detective work, Batman! "Gee, we found an empty gas tank at a rural residence. It must have been the one used at the crime scene." They may as well booked him for having matches in his kitchen.
the opening of this episode shows robert stack walking around a hotel much like the overlook from the shining. I wonder if they used the ahwahnee hotel in california. Ahwahnee was designed for stanley kubrick's The shining.
I been marathon watching UM for a few days now and the johnny Wilson case pissed me off more than anything. I kind of know how he must have felt, when I was 16 I was interrogated over some weed they were trying to find out who my dealers dealer was. I don't think it was that big of a deal for them but looking back on it now they had couple younger cops in the room so I think they were training them so they went full on at me, and yea they act like your not in trouble at first and quickly mumble your rights. then they acted like I killed someone and get you so shaken and confused I didn't even think that I could end the interview at that age. I didn't even know who the dealer was but I was about to give them the name of another guy and make stuff up just so the psych torture would end.
Hmmm. It's April when Johnny mowed the lawn in the recration but there are cicadas distinctly heard in the background? They don't usually show up until July.
Every now and then it seems like Robert Stack wants to say, " Join me for these intriguing cases and sometimes bull shit stories. Perhaps you may be able to solve a mystery" 🤷🏽♀️
My opinion of the Johnny Wilson case is that his friends did it because they wanted his bike and he wouldn't bring it with him; or, a second scenario, there were people in town who wanted the woman out of the way because of her business holdings, and possibly some policies, on which she would not budge. They hired one or more young man, whom they paid handsomely, to torch the house with her in it. I am sure there could be several possibilities. I could be way off.
I remember watching this episode as a kid maybe like 10 or so and the episode about Johnny Lee Wilson and like WTF same name as my dad and we lived in MO at the time and as a young kid my dad went to jail and I went to live with my grandparents but never knew why he went to jail and wondered if this was why
Many people confess during interrogations, it doesn't mean they are guilty.
12:13 the old lady saying "Homeboy" was hilarious! I didn't know Johnny's grandma was an OG
That was really funny. I had to rewind a few times.
I cracked up when they said Johnny was taping
records😂
@@wealwaysbeenhere1340 Yeah it sounds funny in modern times, it just means he was making cassette tape copies of songs off the vinyl albums. If it was 2019 he'd be bluetoothed his buddy's phone to his or copied off a usb.
@@wealwaysbeenhere1340 I grew up in the 80s and sometimes I would have to call the radio station to request a song then sit there with my finger on the record button until it came on
She was funny but very sweet. I can imagine coming by to visit her and saying, "Hi, Gram!"
And she'd say, "Hey, sweetheart! So good to see 'ya!"
Put those corrupt cops and judges in jail for unjustly imprisoning Wilson
they need a whole corrupt cop prison ...on an island..? better yet 🤔iceburg
Ppl would have alot more faith in the system if that happened.
Why isn't there a bigger movement in society to punish systemic functionaries who are proven to have irresponsibly convicted innocent people and to have effectively ruined their lives? It is astounding. All these idiots who run around calling themselves progressive seem silent as mimes when it comes to making these persons absolutely accountable for the damage inflicted on innocent persons. At the very least those judges who reside over these cases should be removed from the bench expeditiously and if it is found that members of the jury were known to have ignored the circumstantial nature of the evidence presented they should be severely fined commensurate to double the wages lost by the wrongly convicted.
He was pardoned in 1995 and settled a $615,000 lawsuit against Lawrence County.
@@MaximusWolfe I'm a true conservative as I love our country and all it's people AND I SAY HELL YES LOCK THEIR ASSES UP!
I also say we need a fairness in spending when it comes to criminal prosecutions.
If the govt or the state spends a million dollars to prosecute then you should be entitled to similar funds to defend yourself!
No more guilty pleas to avoid bankruptcy..
Solved. As the years passed, the case continued to fall apart. One of the witnesses, Gary Wahl, recanted his testimony. He claimed that the police forced him to say that Johnny confessed to him. In September 1995, Missouri Governor Mel Carnahan reviewed the case and granted Johnny Lee Wilson a pardon, exonerated of all charges. He concluded that the police had fed Johnny information about Pauline's murder, and that his confession was false. Johnny was released after serving nearly nine years in prison and was finally reunited with his mother and grandmother.
As of 2017, he still lives with his mother, and continues to mow lawns. He states that he is not bitter about the wrongful conviction, and has happily moved on with his life. Pauline's real killer is believed to be Chris Brownfield; however, he was never charged with her murder.
Reportedly, Johnny sued the county and the sheriff and was awarded a settlement.
Every single "law enforcement officer" involved should have been fired and incarcerated themselves. Abuse of power would be an understatement.
Well I'm glad it finally works I won't be happy until they start holding people responsible for getting false confessions and false convictions and making them go to jail
@@aaronbradley3232 , well, in all honesty.. that is the reason why so many people (men and women) want to start with those who file false rape and child molestation charges. That may seem like it has nothing to do with this, but honestly.. it is every crime. When we let slide even a false accusation (whether it comes to charges or not) people think they are allowed to get away with things.
According to the reports, Johnny Lee Wilson received a $615,000 settlement from Lawrence County in 2003.
@@Holden308 , which is good, but he still never should have been incarcerated.
I am glad Johnny Wilson is free. These investigators need to serve some time for what they did to him!! It’s ridiculous to put an innocent man in prison!!
I'm glad he was set free too.
They should make a movie about this story and have Boyd Holbrook play him
Exactly 💯 so happy he's out. That's just sick what they did. They need to imagine if it was their family member smh
@@DMalltheway is boyd retarded?
lazy cops and lazy judge, they just wanted to end the case
You could tell Mr. Stack was not impressed with law enforcement’s refusal to discuss Johnny’s case with UM.
I love no one or anything
I wasn't impressed either, & I'm a former Criminal Investigator; You can't Always say that a con in prison is lying about something, cause these guys tell stories sometimes, but they also tell the Truth sometimes as well.
It's like he gave them the finger but oh so elegantly and classily...really made them look bad.
@@markaveryjr7463 WOW
@@markaveryjr7463 Why?
They're gonna blame Johnny just because he's slow? Are you kidding me? That's messed up. For real? He didn't kill that little sweet old lady.
Happens often
I mean, Bobby Stack calls him retarded here, that's the era of medical understanding of mental illness we're dealing with.
14:50 Robert Stack is like that dad that knows you're lying to him and is disapointed in you XD
Wow he served 9 years!!!!! Those “detectives” cops whatever they were should be fired and charged!
They should be beaten near to death with their own limbs.
Absolutely without a doubt. I hope they sued the State. I know there are good detectives but these guys are not.
And the judge who didn’t stop when it was obvious Johnny wasn’t mentally fit to stand trial.
All them need to go to jail; they know Johnny is innocent. Horrible to do any1 like that.
As a parent I'm appalled at the way the police railroaded Johnny. It's the same thing they did to Brendan Dassey. And the worst part of it is that this kind of thing happens all the time.
Yet you have people saying to ‘trust authorities’ blindly. Never
@@xposetruth5681 I couldn't agree more.
Unfortunately, yes.
Why is it that cops don't like their jobs? If a person is not a people person, with compassiom, and genuine caring, then why do they become cops?
The fact that he lost 9 whole years of his life over that is pretty disgusting.
the Central Park 5 case was worse.
Johnny's case breaks my heart--so easily could've been my younger brother (also named Johnny). A stark reminder never to talk to the cops without a lawyer, even if you are innocent and want to help the investigation as much as you can.
(Had to smile at the mention of him spending the day with a friend taping records. Ah, the '80s.)
Dee Wampler was a great attorney. I had forgotten about the case with Johnny until watching this episode. Mr. Wampler was still practicing law when he passed away back in October, 2021. He was 81 years old, and passed away while working a trial in St. Louis.
Hard to believe that when this episode first aired on 28 November 1990, Robert Stack was 71 years old, less than 2 months shy of turning 72.
If Mr. Stack had of lived on he would have been 100 years old this year (2019) as he was born 13th January 1919.
Wow he was old
Holden308 ~ Yes, but he still looked so good for his age tho!
@@thegodfather1907 he looked beyond great
back then most ppl in their 70s were toothless
& crippled 👴
Yeah and he kept doing the show until he passed in 2003 a month or two after the last episode. He was very devoted.
those cops that did that to that poor kid should be the ones in prison for life!!! that's sickening!
Its abhorrent. Ignorance at its highest. How could poor Johnny have orchestrated all of that? Makes me sick that even now police still zone in on slow minded people for crimes 😢🤒😑😒
I am disabled and suffer from disabilities,but I would give a piece of my mind to those two detectives for bullying that young man,they had no right trying to bully him like that,they tricked him and then trapped him and bullied him into submission,into confessing something that he did not do,detectives like them are disgusting and should be fired.
@Ryan Plato yea I hate it to ryan,you are not the only one.
Exactly. I totally agree with you. I was in a special ed class as a kid. My son has Aspergers. He had a learning disability. We are not disabled and not retarded!!! Johnny looks and is normal to me. Like everyone els. How dare they call him that word. No one has that right without knowing a person and researching what they really have. I myself feel offended by this, and I'm sure Johnny would too. I think law enforcement saw him as a little "different" and used him as the easy target to get commissions.
@Ryan
Ya. It does sound really harsh. It was a different tho when that word accepted and commonly used. Johnny was more on the autism spectrum, like high functioning or Asperger's or something like that. He was normal just a little slower
Ryan ... right ? I cringe when I hear it. Dr. Phil still uses it.
To the people who were getting tiffed at Robert stack and the show saying mentally retarded this is for you and whoever wants to read. This is a long read and I might hurt some feelings. fair warning
Back In the day mentally retarded was the norm and term because disabled was physically disabled, and mentally disabled was categorized as mentally retarded, it wasn’t offensive till later years just like midgets and small people.
And also the DA said it best;
“Who would put a 3rd grader in jail”
My 2 friends have the “disability”/“mental retardation” Johnny has so I feel I can explain this in layman’s term least about my friends. I’ll start with my friend who’s 29.
he just is immature beyond belief like spongebob and doesn’t really handle responsibility well and he lives with his mom and his son is raised by his mom cause he acts like he’s his baby brother. he legit acts how we acted when we were in grade 6 while he’s 29 and finds odd things from that age fun you’d think he would grow out of. He picks on girls thinking it’s flirting like pulling hair. he is astoundingly shocked by anything a normal person of his age would do like go to a blind date or even just ask a girl for her number. he goes out of his way to make people like him by giving gifts of cool things he owns himself.
Eg; I told him I really like his hat one day that he had on the wall and asked him where he got it so I could get a similar one’ just making conversation thinking nothing of it... He threw the hat at me saying have it and I checked the price inside after I said yes cause I thought he just wanted to give me the hat cause I loved it and it expensive as hell. He then started asking me; trying to pry out of me later what I liked of stuff in his room when I wasn’t giving him enough attention, me full knowing that he wanted to give me stuff, I just changed the subject. It it’s happened hundreds of times since
My other friend is 24(has a lot of the same similar things about him as 29) and he acts older than 29, he acts about 13, He goes out of his way to be a show off around people to try and impress them for starters like a 13 year old, like i assume everyone did at 13. He’ll drink booze like it’s water if I pour too strong of a drink for myself, he wants to keep up and be like me and his brother but tries to play it cool like we don’t know? he can’t and everytime he does’ he pukes. He’ll try to fable stories we know aren’t true and things along those lines and even make up stories about him and I doing things together for strangers infront of people who know it ain’t true.
Also too he has baby toys all along his room like a 13 year old would (not a collector or for keepsakes) he has Thomas the train and bat man bed sheets, a race car bed, constantly so many random teddy bears to sleep with in his bed and night light cause he’s scared of the dark. But he tries to hide it and play it off when his brother and I go for a walk to the river at night without flash lights. but I noticed He won’t stay any further than 2ft away just like a 13 year old or younger would around older people when they’re scared of the dark.
Two things my friends both have in common.... (I know and they know they got the disability, their parents all told me about it and it’s not something you bring up to someone normally so I don’t say anything to them about it I just observe)..... is though for sure... they don’t get they’re not acting the way they should for their age and can’t process what’s going on like serious situations, it just doesn’t register for them unless someone’s like “hey bad idea” they know but they don’t,
It’s almost like the ability for both of my friends to weigh pros and cons before acting isnt there; something too I believe is part of the disability.
Their mentally is that of some I imagine that just had a switch turned off in their brain and they stay whatever age the switch went off.
It’s not like they have a mentally of 10 at 20 and when their 40 it’ll be a mentally of 20. It’s just they kinda stopped where they’re at.
I’m glad Johnny is free and he can get on with his life and I just wanted to spread some light on my experiences and give sympathy and empathy to Johnny.
(sorry for the long story and likely gramatical errors.)
I love everything about the show it's like comfort food for me.
Johnny's Grandma looks so sweet
never been hoping so hard for an update as watching the johnny wilson case
He was pardoned, after serving nine years
@@matthewmcdonald8553 He was awarded $615,000 in a settlement.
He was awarded $615,000 in a settlement.
I remember calling the "Unsolved Mysteries" telecenter the day after the Coral Pogue segment aired, to get her contact information in England. My grandfather had died 11 years before I was born, and I was going to contact Mrs. Pogue to see if she could draw a picture of my grandfather, who I had never met and had never even seen a picture of him. My intention was to give the picture to my mother and see if Mrs. Pogue's drawing resembled him, but I never followed through with it. I imagine Coral Pogue has passed away now or is so old she doesn't do drawings any longer.
From what I found, she died in 2001. She couldn't have been all that old. She looked like she might have been in her 50s or so during the Unsolved Mysteries segment. That was filmed in 1990.
The lady artist is truly a fabulous story.
In September 1995, Wilson was pardoned by the governor of Missouri, Mel Carnahan, citing that Wilson's confession was coerced, and that there was no evidence tying him to the crime.
Do you know if he was able to sue the state of Missouri?
@@antonioacevedo5200 that I don't know. Sorry.
@@antonioacevedo5200 johnny got a settlement
I am a supporter of LEOs, but the Johnny Lee Wilson case (among several that were on this series) infuriated me. Those are the worst kind of cops: they like the power of being a cop, but don't want to actually do the job.
They are monsters.
Agreed, strongly. It's of critical importance to keep that kind of mentality OUT of law enforcement (or any position of authority, for that matter), especially since they seem drawn to the profession by their very nature.
What's LEO?
@@GrieviousGeorge Law Enforcement Officers
David Welsh “I’m a supporter of LEOs”. I’m a supporter of anyone who does their job correctly. But corrupt cops are the worst pieces of shit on this earth.
Here is the problem Johnny is on an emotional level of an 8 or 9 year old The pigs are on an emotional level of an 10 or 11 year old
Unless he was framed somehow, he is guilty. If he molested a child he would be guilty. So how is this any different?
@@JH-qy8no I don't think he was framed, I think he was railroaded. They do that all the time, even more back then.
@@JH-qy8no He was manipulated, the “police” constructed a case that fit the evidence they had found and ignored any mitigating reasons like the costume jewellery that belonged to his grandmother and that the so called stolen underwear was his mother’s in his mother’s drawer. Johnny was fed a narrative and softened so he’d admit to the part he was cast in it, after being brought in under a misleading pretence that his mother and grandmother weren’t made aware of (if he had to be questioned it should have been with a parent figure given his emotional maturity). As for why the legal system kept denying Johnny a chance at justice, I’m betting stupid pride and covering up corruption.
Omg lmfao
*If its one thing Unsolved Mysteries brings to light....its the complete incompetence of police departments ALL over the USA...*
AMEN TO THAT
@@DragonQueen78 No
I hate it when people generalize ALL police as incompetent just because a few bad apples are incompetent or corrupt. Besides, "Unsolved Mysteries" showcases just a teeny amount of these said bad apples and immediately you lump those that are truly hardworking and competent ones together with the trash. Anyway, there are incompetents in all professions including doctors, lawyers, teachers, etc. So, by your reasoning, ALL employees in ALL professions are incompetent because of a few idiots.
@@ewaleokadia76 A few bad apples ??? There is corruption that involves entire forces....quit living under a rock! And if its only a few....how many season of USM is their ? You watch every episode like I have....count ALL the episodes that expose lazy/incompetent/corrupt Police Departments/Members...then try and rationalize it as "only a few bad apples"
I'll also take this time to point out, look whats happening in Canada and Australia...Police are barricading people inside buildings to "self-isolate" from a virus that kills less then 1% of people who contract it....a look at back in History shows the first people to turn on the its citizens are the Police...Police do NOT care about "us" all they do is want to protect their pension...so following orders is following orders...I recently just broke off a friendship with a RCMP officer cause....she full heartily agreed that a law we talked about is total b/s and she doesn't believe it...BUT if it came down to it she would enforce it upon me...someones shes known for 20 years... How could can I trust that person? When the orders come to load people on trains...where do you draw the line....and that's going to be a reality soon enough
All over the world
The cool thing is they updated these cases years-many years-after the show was off the air.
Poor Jhonny, he didn't stand a chance in this is case forced in giving a false confession, not to mention the legal process is a joke. Jhonny lost so many years for a crime he didn't commit.
This dude was drunk af, passed out in his truck, and got out when he felt weird. Hands down. Case closed. F'in alcohol kills in all sorts of ways.
People gotta learn to stop drinking those 4 lokos
The last story is such a mystery. At first sight you say to yourself that Heck most probably punched him and then the fumes killed him, but it doesn't explain how the guy could have died with such small amount of carbon monoxide in the garage. Heck says there was no smoke in the garage, that the truck wasn't running...so how did he die? It's the type of case you'd see in a Sherlock Holmes novel, really weird. 😕
Anything is possible, but it could be that the guy turned off the engine and collapsed as he was walking out of the garage. The show did not say whether any of the windows were slightly open for him to bereath in Carbon Monoxide while in the car. He was impaired anyway so he probably wasn't going to make logical decisions.
@@antonioacevedo5200 I believe Curtis heck had something to do with the death of kenneth ingie period
Sorry I'm late to the party. I've always wondered about this but I don't think there's anything more to it. He was drunk and died from carbon monoxide exposure. I'm a nurse and can tell you first-hand that even a few minutes of the fumes can cause serious problems. Being drunk causes inhibited reaction time as well. The fact that there was no evidence of assault on the body is what sealed it for me. Also, while this certainly isn't proof, the guy who saw him last appears to be very straightforward and truthful. I don't see him being cooperative and even pushing for the truth to be told if he knew more than he was saying. 🤷 Guess we'll never know. Maybe it should be a lesson to not go out drinking and stir up trouble.
carbon monoxide is odourless, you cant see it either, thats why it is so incredibly dangerous
Dude was drunk, out of shape, and likely already suffering from carbon monoxide poisoning by the time he turned off the truck. His uncle saying that he was smart enough not to do that completely ignores the effects of alcohol. People do stupid things when drunk. Hell, he might not have died of carbon monoxide directly, it combined with the alcohol might've triggered a heart attack.
That criminal guy had more compassion for Johnny than the legal system did. What a bunch of clowns.
I am a fairly young police officer and watching the Johnny Wilson case made me sick. Fortunately, with the advancement technology and cameras, those type of “forced confessions” are a thing of the past IMO. I by no means condone the actions of those investigators, I just can’t comprehend what they were thinking. My guess is being a small town police department, they just wanted to close the case quickly and put the town at ease by getting a suspect and convicting him. Johnny was the perfect mark and fit the bill because he knew the victim and was mentally incompetent. I’m glad his case was revisited and he was found innocent.
ACAB! You’re not any better
You could tell how furious robert stack was with johnny's case
Especially when he referred to it as "disquieting."
if Kenny was having issues, i would've rushed him to the ER!!
Cc:
granted Johnny Lee Wilson a pardon, exonerated of all charges. He concluded that the police had fed Johnny information about Pauline's murder, and that his confession was false. Johnny was released after serving nearly nine years in prison and was finally reunited with his mother and grandmother.
Most of these unsolved mysteries are due to lack of actual police investigation or just sheer ignorance of police
@Ashley Stein. I hear you Sweetheart.
simple and DETAILED drawings !!!!
the background music of the 90s is very relaxing. Poor Wilson this case is messed up
Jonnie was freed & given $615,000
not enough , not at all. you can't get back 9 years, young years
Imagine that? Police bullying someone into confession. That happens more than people would want to admit or consider.
Not really
The psychic was brilliant when it comes to her drawings!!!
Where are all the Athiest people who yell out COLD READERS!!!!!
I wish i could've met Coral! The accuracy of her portraits are amazing
Good to see Wilson is a freeman
Wonder if Johnny Lee got any reparations for spending that much time in jail for a crime he didn't commit.
Yes, an undisclosed settlement.
its 615k
Johnny Lee Wilson's case reminds me of Brendan Dassey from Netflix's "Making of a Murderer".
Except Dassey is guilty
@@EssexAggiegrad2011 I call BS.
@@EssexAggiegrad2011 Brendan Dassey, or are you thinking Steven Avery?
@@darkkiss7247 He is
What always gets me in these cases like Johnnies is when someone else confesses with corroboration and they dismiss THAT confession.
It's like cops are possessed by the devil to keep an innocent person in jail bc that's the explanation left one can come up with.
Wonder if those cops were bullies in school or related to the kids who bullied Johnny during his school years. What other reason would they have for incarcerating an innocent kid. Maybe some were jealous of his good reputation and relationships with the victim.
Most likely lazy ass police work, and just taking what that other guy Gary said at face value. They latched onto the first guy they found and got tunnel vision, pisses me off how they let him go on trial too, even though he was clearly slower and was confused about it all
The judge, sherif, and lawyer should be in jail!!!!!
In 1993, Wilson requested a pardon from then governor of Missouri Mel Carnahan, which was granted in September 1995 after a year-long investigation of the case. It concluded that there was no physical evidence tying Wilson to the crime, and that the authorities took advantage of Wilson's mental defect to coerce a confession. However, Brownfield has not been prosecuted for the crime, nor anyone else, and the murder of Martz remains unsolved. Wilson settled with Lawrence County for $615,000 in 2003, after filing a federal lawsuit.
I feel the Kenneth Engie case is pretty clear cut, he pulled in the garage, with the car on he thought he could make it into the house turned the car off he collapsed from either being drunk or the fumes were getting to him, their were enough fumes still in the room and he died from it.
Thank you for using reason. Lord, they made it seem like the crime of the century.
Yeah, the segment didn't point out that carbon monoxide doesn't have to incapacitate someone right away to be lethal.
Except the truck in the garage wasn’t the same vehicle that he drove home. His vehicle was outside being kicked by the other guy.
I'm like Curtis Heck. Even if I fight someone and kick their ass I still wouldn't let them in a vulnerable situation they could die in. Years ago I got jumped by some guy on the railroad tracks and knocked him out because I have boxing experience and was just defending myself. He fell on the tracks but I drug him far away from the tracks into the shade. I didn't want a train to come by and hit him or for him to die of heat stroke. I didn't leave until he started to wake up. I still don't know why the guy even attacked me in the first place. This happened about 15 years ago. I still see him around town sometimes.
doesnt he remind you of William H Macy in Fargo?
25:32 Wow a Wal-Mart in the late 80s?
THE GUY ON THE GARAGE FLOOR I THINK HE PASSED FROM DRINKING FOR A BIT WHILE WAITING, CAME TO AND THE GUY HE WAS WAITING FOR HADNT COME SO HE TURNED OFF THE TRUCK AND STARTED TO EXIT GARAGE BUT DIDNT MAKE IT CUZ OF THE CARBON MONOXIDE.
I think you may be right
@Suq Madiq Heh thats funny. I was actually thinking about Fargo during the segment because of the accents of the people involved.
Another Great episode
This is why I fully support the second amendment
It's unamerican not to support the 2ndA.
I don't know if it was an UM episode or a Forensic File episode, but, a slow man was also coerced and led into a confession. They even recorded it! A lawyer found out about it and ordered a retrial. He was pissed! At the end of the show he call the law enforcement names and said come talk to me like that! Say that to my face!! He was so disgusted that a person with special needs was mistreated and abused by them. I will forever be impressed by this lawyer.
NINE years in prison and the only thing he's guilty of is living in a town full of incompetent officials. Shame shame shame on the police and judge for this mistreatment of this man.
Im getting tired of typing the words, "police incompetence"
Try dumbfounded dumbfucks for a while
Try 'inherently corrupt'. As they all are.
@@user-yp3oj5se1i No, most cops are decent. Like in any profession, a few bad apples spoil the bunch. On "Unsolved Mysteries" the cops are either corrupt or incompetent.
@@ewaleokadia76 All of them are working for psychopaths/the establishment against the majority of people. They spend more time going after somebody that stole something rather than going after child abusers and they shouldn't be letting religious businesses deal with their child raping priests as they are. They know priests are being moved to different churches where they rape again and again. They know tobacco harms/kills yet they don't stop that crime because their controllers are making money from selling tobacco. Same with alcohol. "No, most cops are decent." wish full thinking and very obviously not true.
Well over 99% of them are pathetic and cowardly scum at least because they are paid money to keep things as they are by force/physical violence. That's without exaggerating anything everybody knows this. You are an ignorant coward if you think otherwise. All police all over the world are inherently corrupt because money inherently corrupts and they work with mafia gangs.
The very very few good ones are ignored or bullied/gaslighted or killed. Mike Rupert was a police man he tried to tell the police that the CIA are the biggest importers of illegal drugs into the U.S. ruclips.net/video/X-xdb0cACUc/видео.html
When watching episodes of Unsolved Mysteries.. Just type "police incompetence" and then copy it... Now all you need to do is Paste it in the comments making for less down time from these episodes.
The best show ever love the classic theme is very well edited ❤💙
This is the kind of shit that happens to anyone who is slightly different than anyone else. Johnny Wilson is such a sweetie pie. It upset me to watch this...and It brought tears to my eyes. The family of Johnny Wilson should of sued even the judge. I bet they would of won too. Nothing was said about if they decided to later on, or if everyone involved was fired. Would be nice to know if both did happen. I read all the time about people getting fired for abusing their authority related job....most are police officers that nit only ger fired, but go to jail. No matter what your job of authority entales, it does not make you above the law. You will end up eventually answer to the ones you have broken. What is the difference between a school yard bully and a person who abuses their position of authority? None. Either way, scum has to answer for what they did at some point, and the victim gets justice by usually taking the law into their own hands.
It seems that a large percentage of these cases involve crooked cops. Cops always act so defensive of their profession, and yeah there are definitely many good cops too but this reputation didn't come from nowhere. Also, 71? Johnny Lee might have been a bit slow but this strikes me as a lack of education and confidence more than a true case of being mentally challenged. Probably some autism involved. Some people just get thrown under the bus of the system and he strikes me that way. They completely overacted his character in the reenactments.
Crooked cops are responsible for alot of crimes, over half in my opinion but most are covered up.
@Sir John Hammond
*_This is a comment from a year ago that appears above yours saying Johnny Still lives with his mother!_*
Johnny Cage
1 year ago
Solved. As the years passed, the case continued to fall apart. One of the witnesses, Gary Wahl, recanted his testimony. He claimed that the police forced him to say that Johnny confessed to him. In September 1995, Missouri Governor Mel Carnahan reviewed the case and granted Johnny Lee Wilson a pardon, exonerated of all charges. He concluded that the police had fed Johnny information about Pauline's murder, and that his confession was false. Johnny was released after serving nearly nine years in prison and was finally reunited with his mother and grandmother.
*As of 2017, he still lives with his mother, and continues to mow lawns.* He states that he is not bitter about the wrongful conviction, and has happily moved on with his life. Pauline's real killer is believed to be Chris Brownfield; however, he was never charged with her murder.
Reportedly, Johnny sued the county and the sheriff and was awarded a settlement.
I’ve seen somewhat of the same comment on every single unsolved mysteries episode I do believe that in this day n age that 78% of cops are corrupted they beat people they falsely accuse people and so much more it’s sad (this is just a statement of what I’ve witnessed on tv and in public court cases I’ve seen)
@@chrismccauley5727 well 78 is a pretty exact figure lol but having just binged Forensic Files, it's unfortunately done nothing to change my opinion on this.
Those pictures she draws give the people a sweet kind of "stinker" quality- as though they were giving you a delightful smile with a wink!😉💕
Glad Johnny is free now, but never having a trail for such serious crimes is FUCKING insane.
Jimmy Dee yes it is but foul language is not allowed on RUclips
2:08 Pix of the Dead 10:47 Johnny Lee Wilson 34:57 Totally Exhausted
I feel horrible for Johnny. I have an uncle that's mentally handicapped and it's so easy to manipulate them. This is so very sad. I don't even know Johnny and I strongly feel that he didn't do it. 3 people examined him and 2 said he was incompetent to stand trial. He clearly didn't understand any of it. This really makes me so sad. 😿😿😿♥️♥️♥️
"We just want to put you away for murder for the rest of your life. We don't care if you're guilty or not." Don't tell me that this could have happened if he had John had been born into a wealthy, influential family! 👿
Nine years of his life gone... that's so tragic
I hope Johnny is a rich man after his entire ordeal.
He only got about $615,000. ☹️
It's obvious that Johnny didn't kill anyone. Nor was he fit for trial. The boy clearly had no idea what he was attesting to. This is such a sad story. By the time they figure out who actually committed the crime he's not going to have any family members left to welcome him home where he belongs...
When a criminal has better morals than law enforcement officials.
I don’t know if she’s psychic but a good artist for sure
Last week I wrote the same comment under one of these stories:
The state of misery!
Looks like Robert Stack is standing in Kubrick's set for "The Shining" at the beginning.
As horrible as Chris Brownfield is, I do admire him being willing to face the consequences for his crimes to save an innocent man. For a vicious murderer of the elderly, that's a very selfless act.
I think in the last story, Horatio Sanz was sitting in the truck and the garage filled with fumes, and he turned off the engine but was too overcome to make it to the door. That seems like what most likely happened. I don't think William H Macy had anything to do with his death.
...not sure if it was an automatic garage door. If it was it's possible he closed the door with the remote when he entered and just sat there with the engine on. Being drunk, just sitting there for no good reason is totally possible. Then it's more likely he accidentally killed himself with CO. It was too late when he turned off the engine. Falling to the floor didn't help since CO is heavier than air, he was inhaling it til he died.
johnny seems articulate for having the mind of a 3rd grader.
Those detectives should've been FIRED!!!! I Know what I'm talking about, as I'm a retired LEO, & at least that One investigator with the Sheriff's dept. Had the sense to see the Bulls*** that had occurred! So glad he won a lawsuit, but it wasn't enough!
He was a “homeboy!” Lmao
a stright up boy from the hood
Those cops are despicable!! They should not be allowed to get away with railroading!!
The world really *FAILED* Johnny Wilson. Just over...and over...and freaking OVER. And yet the system still stood by it's wrongdoing. The system is hopelessly broken. Down with the system! 🔥
Looks like Johnny Wilson parked his bike at the wrong house
Holy lazy detective work, Batman! "Gee, we found an empty gas tank at a rural residence. It must have been the one used at the crime scene." They may as well booked him for having matches in his kitchen.
Very awesome with this psychic who draws people she never knew
Very creepy and eerie background music. Ominous music 🎵 gives me nightmares
the opening of this episode shows robert stack walking around a hotel much like the overlook from the shining. I wonder if they used the ahwahnee hotel in california. Ahwahnee was designed for stanley kubrick's The shining.
37:06 Jerry Lundegaard from Fargo 1996
jaroncreed 😆
8:40 That Drawing looks a lot like Bill Clinton.
I been marathon watching UM for a few days now and the johnny Wilson case pissed me off more than anything. I kind of know how he must have felt, when I was 16 I was interrogated over some weed they were trying to find out who my dealers dealer was. I don't think it was that big of a deal for them but looking back on it now they had couple younger cops in the room so I think they were training them so they went full on at me, and yea they act like your not in trouble at first and quickly mumble your rights. then they acted like I killed someone and get you so shaken and confused I didn't even think that I could end the interview at that age. I didn't even know who the dealer was but I was about to give them the name of another guy and make stuff up just so the psych torture would end.
Nothing can truly compensate for what those officers put Johnny through, but hopefully, he got something. Jeezus.
Hmmm. It's April when Johnny mowed the lawn in the recration but there are cicadas distinctly heard in the background? They don't usually show up until July.
Every now and then it seems like Robert Stack wants to say, " Join me for these intriguing cases and sometimes bull shit stories. Perhaps you may be able to solve a mystery" 🤷🏽♀️
My cousin, Dustin (Dusty) Toler passed away yesterday (4/24/2024). He was 72.
Sorry for your loss
Is Johnny Lee Wilson still alive in 2023 if so how he doing? Possibly in the comment section???
Johnny shouldn't have been arrested in the first place!
It's interesting that Curtis was never charged with Kenny's death and I don't think Curtis was responsible for his murder.
Before any younger people get offended: "Retarded" was an official medical term back then.
@37:55 He highly resembles Charles Bronson especially his voice/speech
29:32 “No, no, wrong guess!” 🤣🤣🤣 I’d laugh until my sides hurt if it wasn’t so pitiful how they mistreated Johnny!
My opinion of the Johnny Wilson case is that his friends did it because they wanted his bike and he wouldn't bring it with him; or, a second scenario, there were people in town who wanted the woman out of the way because of her business holdings, and possibly some policies, on which she would not budge. They hired one or more young man, whom they paid handsomely, to torch the house with her in it.
I am sure there could be several possibilities. I could be way off.
I remember watching this episode as a kid maybe like 10 or so and the episode about Johnny Lee Wilson and like WTF same name as my dad and we lived in MO at the time and as a young kid my dad went to jail and I went to live with my grandparents but never knew why he went to jail and wondered if this was why
It’s remarkable that in the “psychic” artists portraits the subjects are posing exactly the same way as in the photograph