Focal Bathys vs Bowers & Wilkins PX8 (Headphones Recommended)
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
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Focal Bathys vs Bowers & Wilkins PX8 (Headphones Recommended)
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Thanks for the clear review and comparison of these two headphones. It helped me a lot. I had a very convincing listening test of the Px8. The music was dancing in my ears, such a joy! Regarding the design and the make of the Bathys in comparison with the Px8, my preference immediately went out to the more understated high quality look of Bowers & Wilkins. The Focal Bathys to me seems to say "Hey, look at me because I am so special!" and honestly I don't like that busy (dust capturing) pattern of circles and the illuminated logo in the middle. It looks like funfair stuff to me. ;-) Anyway, I would not mind listening once (if I would find them at a demo set up), but I am happily enjoying my Px8 as much as I can.
The PX8 are definitely one of the better sounding pairs of headphones out to date. Thanks for taking the time to watch the video!
The is the best comparison video I've seen comparing these headphones, or comparing any headphones really. Well done on the review and thanks for the information.
Wow, thanks a ton! I really appreciate you taking the time to write this! I try to focus on what I would want to know if I was watching the review! I really appreciate you taking the time to watch and share your thoughts!
Excellent video. dynamic & straight to the point. IDK why u dont have more follower, ur content is amazing dude
Thanks, I really appreciate you taking the time to write this comment!
The PX8 is like a Sony WH that lost some of its noise canceling ability to gain a decent sound improvement whereas the Bathys lost even more of its noise canceling ability but gained a much better and clear sound. It really depends on what you value. Average consumer will enjoy the Sony’s and probably the PX8 for all around specs and awesome ANC and if they want a little bit better sound at a slight ANC loss,but those who truly enjoy music in the clearest way IMO, will choose the Bathys.
Really useful review as these 2 are on my shortlist - thanks. I really liked the direct sound comparison demonstrations. I thought the PX8s to be a bit too heavy and occluded for my taste and therefore off my list. Great video.
No problem. I’m glad the video helped!
I got Bathys two days back and didn't realize the sound leakage. I was using a B&O H95 before that and Bathys is definitely better when it comes to comfort (I wear glasses) and also the volume and sound staging works best for my use case. The bass of Bathys is at the right level for me.
Welcome back! A friend of mine wears glasses and he swears by the Bathys, lol. I love how the Bathys can get loud when needed. Some headphones you have to turn up to 90% to get any real volume, but not with the Bathys. I agree with the sound staging and bass comment as well. The Bathys has the right amount of bass, perfect for most of my listening sessions! I appreciate you taking the time to watch and share your thoughts!
@@DelonteM absolutely. Thanks for posting this comparison. Nicely done. Happy New Year
@@electrology No problem at all! I appreciate your support! Be safe during the holidays!
@@DelonteM Thanks. Stay safe as well. One last Q, if you don't mind. Have you read about the "running-in period" mentioned on Focal's product page? I heard that once you cross the running-in period, the cans become even better.
Yes, the Bathys sound better when you break them in. I generally listen to them for the break in period, but you can let them play at medium volume for a day or two as well. Either way, they definitely sound better after the break in period! You should Harare the results soon!
Thanks for the great comparison video. Having decided for the Px8 I can testify it is possible to charge ánd listen using the USB-C connection on my MacBook Pro (only need to confirm the audio output connection in the MacOS settings menu.
Bought both. Sound quality is my primary concern. No contest - the Bathys are far more articulate.
Thanks for taking the time to watch the video and sharing your thoughts! Sound is definitely king!
Bowers & Wilkins Noise Cancelling Feature is something else i tell you. Along with barely any leakage, is a big thing for me. I work in IT at a desk/cubicle space.
On another note ive used Focal Speakers&Tweeters for years in my car. There car line is very bright and loud/clear. IDK what they got going on for there headphones because I dont get that feeling from these headphones.
I agree, the PX8 is much better in the sound leakage department... The Bathys are brighter than the PX8, but not as bright as something like the Mark Levinson No 5909. I appreciate you taking the time to watch and sharing your thoughts!
What many other reviews (that don't offer actual test samples, and instead stupid Harman graphs for "audiophiles" that listen to graphs) fail to highlight is the sound leakage. The reason why Bathys sounds "clearer" is because much of its bass LEAKS the hell out due to inferior seal. Tried using it in the library, and immediately returned it because it leaked just like in this video. People who buy closed back most likely don't want sound leakage. PX8 contains the sound, so naturally it has more bass, but if you turn down the bass in the app, it sounds just as clear as the Bathys, but still with punchier sound. I expected the Bathys to be the punchier sound, well it's nowhere near my wired Focals sadly.
I wish the Bathys were more comfortable. Sound is awesome, but I'm constantly adjusting the earcups.
Thanks for taking the time to watch and sharing your thoughts!
Both are equally good, both requires 200-300 hours of break in to get the best from them. It all depends on which sounds good to your ear really? Sound is very subjective
Should I break them in at max volume or just listen normally until I reach the 2-300 hour mark
The best review of all I have seen. Great. 👏
@@gabstein6435 Thanks, I appreciate you taking the time to watch!
I have them Both...Im partial to the PX8 Sound Signiture ... Both are of Quality parts ... However the Bathys seem like they are better made! But I keep hearing that the H95 are Better... Im waiting for them to arrive!
Welcome back! The one thing everyone says about the H95, is they are not loud enough... In my limited experience with the H95, they sound great, but do not get as loud as the PX8 or the Bathys. This is only listening to them a hand full of times, hopefully someone else can chime in. Definitely let us know your thoughts when you get them. I appreciate you stopping by!
How is the Bathys "better made"?
Are you planning on reviewing the M&D 75’s? It would be interesting to see where they slot in compared to other premium headphones.
Thanks for taking the time to watch! I have had quite a few people ask about the M&W 75 and the H95 headphones! I’m trying to get them
I’m the studio for reviews and comparison reviews. I’m also interested to see where they stack against the current heavy hitters! Thanks for the recommendation!
@@DelonteM I recently purchased the MW 75’s. They are in the trial period for me. I really like the sound. I did try the H95’s in their store in Boston. I thought they sounded similar to the MW 75’s. The H95’s probably sound a little better. Both have excellent build quality. I love the controls on the H95’s. Everything about them screams super high end. If price were no factor I would have bought them. Not that the 75’s are cheap. But, 300 dollars is a significant difference. I’ll be very interested to hear your point of view. I am a pure amateur and I could be way off.
@@barrylattuca5352 I appreciate you taking the time to let us know your thoughts of both headphones! I hear a lot of people talk about these two headphones and I really need to get my hands on them, lol. Everybody starts somewhere in audio. My goal is to make a place we can discuss what we think in audio. On this channel, veteran or amateur, feel free to say your thoughts, care free. I’ve seen a good number of veterans get corrected by amateurs… If you hang around to watch the videos on this channel, let me know your thoughts! Maybe there was something I missed or something that could be looked at in another way… I invite everyone to help the community with their experiences, so everyone can hear from more than just one person. Long winded way to say thanks for taking the time to help everyone out!
@@DelonteM Thank you for your response. I watch almost all of your videos. If I have one complaint about the MW 75’s and the H95’s it’s that neither of them gets quite as loud as I would like. But, both are very clear in my opinion. The H95’s probably are slightly more clear that the MW75’s. Good luck sourcing the headphones!! Thanks for the content.
@Barry Lattuca Thanks for taking the time to watch the videos on the channel! I really appreciate all your support! That is the one complaint I have heard a lot of people say as well… I’m sure I’ll have them soon for review.
So which one is better for Rock (like Guns N Roses) & Metal (Metallica) and Techno music?
Px8 is more V-shaped and fun, perfect for rock, and even more perfect for techno. Bathys is more of a technical audiophile headphone, better for stuff like classical and jazz. For what you want, I'd definitely go with the Px8.
@@BlissBatch thank you so much
@@BlissBatchagreed
Need more Music genre comparisons in the sound test.
Love your energy. You know what you’re doing! ✌️
Thanks, I appreciate you taking the time to watch!
??? What 3rd party EQ would you recommend? I heard the B&W PX7 S2's today was blown away.. just with their 2 band EQ!!!
Bathys are nice but the px7 s2e are by far the best sound quality for the money on the planet no question. For half the price of the bathys the difference isn't nearly as big as you'd think
@@froyocrewagreed
B&W all the way. Bathys are a bit shrill with excellent sound stage and separation but they are bulky and the stupid light is stupid. You can turn it off but it's as bright as a flashlight and shines every time you power on and off.
B&W sound amazing, are low profile, are more comfortable and look good.
B&W PX7 S2 are $350 and just as good as the P8.
The LED lights are definitely not needed in the next generation... I appreciate you taking the time to watch and sharing your thoughts!
@@DelonteM Good video.
@@noaheye3428 👊
best review.. thank you!
Thanks, I appreciate you taking the time to watch!
Have u ever thought of giving them about a 200hr break in before giving the review cause sound can change drastically after break in that’s just a fact. What a lot of people don’t understand is that after break in everything starts to sound more smoother and less boomy. Like the Px8 can sound boomy out the box after proper break in it starts smooth out
Headphone "break in" is a myth. It's been proven many times it's your brain getting use to the sound and making it better. No eq graph shows an audible difference
@@Kryptron5150 no myth...
everything starts changing while your listening all at once. another words it start opening up.
@kevin-zd4po show me scientific proof beyond someone's opinion. I have yet to find any beyond someones psychological perspective.
@@kevin-zd4po only thing that changes is your brain and perception
You seem like such a nice and fun guy
Hows the wearing detection on Px8? I have heard lots people claim it's absolute rubbish, don't work well, over sensitive even on very low setting?
Thanks for taking the time to watch the video! In the beginning, I would have said turn it off and forget it… The headphones would stop the music for no reason or didn’t acknowledge I put them on. I started playing with the high and low setting on the wear sensor and it eventually started working properly. I think it needed some time to break in, because it now works well. Still some hiccups every now and then, but generally works as it is supposed to. I hope this helps!
Just got the bathys open box for 200 off retail. Deffinately a deal. Coming from the pi7 s2 im excited for a long term solution for my music listening.m
The Bathys are a nice well rounded pair of headphones. I’m sure you will love them, especially if you listen to music using the DAC mode. Let us know what you think when you break them in!
Another great review my friend. Thanks for explaining what Bluetooth 5.2 adds that the PX8 provides which the Bathys currently does not. Perhaps a software update will fix that? You covered all the topics regarding the comparison s.
On the listening test I like the fuller and meater sound of the PX8. Focals have the wider sound stage but they sound thinner. The PX8 also has better quality materials over the Bathys which are made in China.
I will be going for the PX8'S and will save $100 as well. Plus they don't look so bulky like the Bathy's
Thanks again for taking the time to watch! I really appreciate all your support! The PX8 feels very premium in the hand. It also has a very nice smell when being unboxed. I use both a lot (alongside my Mark Levinson No 5909). I don’t think you would regret the PX8 headphones at all. Both are great headphones, it really depends on what the user is looking for. Let us know what you think of the PX8 when you get them!
@@DelonteM Just ordered the PX8'S. I will report here after they come in next week.
@@revelationsoundstudio Thanks, we look forward to your feedback!
I believe both pairs are actually manufactured in China
@@MrJ.31 But that does not change the fact that the Bathys have cheaper construction.
Love this format of reviewing. 👏
Welcome back! I appreciate you 👊
Did you find the Px8's auto off when taking of your head too sensitive being triggered even when the headphones are on your head?. I've seen other reviewers have to turn that function off as their music kept getting interrupted while listening. Note I listened to your sound test with Px8. Clearly the Px8 has a richer sound. Note, for some music I dial down the bass on the Px8 using the B&W application. So in a way I can have it both ways. ;) Finally are you able to do a comparison of these to headphones with the Master & Dynamic MW75, that I think is in the same league. What 3rd party EQ do you recommend. Any for people living in the Apple "walled garden"?
Thanks for taking the time to watch the video! In the beginning, I would have said turn it off and forget it… The wear detection feature is a lot better for me after I started messing with the high and low settings. Still some hiccups every now and then, but generally works as it is supposed to. I generally dial down the bass as well. I currently have the settings at -1 for bass and +1 for treble. I get a lot of people asking for the M&D75 and the H95 headphones. I’m trying to get those in the studio for standalone and comparison reviews. The Mark Levinson 5909 will be compared to these headphones as well. Stay tuned! Boom EQ is a very good equalizer for iOS, iPadOS, and Mac. It has a ton of features, but I use Boom for the EQ. I hope this helps!
Great video bro. Just picked up the bathys and like them so far.
I appreciate you taking the time to watch! The Bathys are a great pair of headphones. Let them break in and you will hear a difference. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Great video thanks. Wantesd to ask if u mind doin a comparison wirh the Bang and olefsun H95 and these 2 headphones in this video. I listen to all genres from Metal, Nirvana, NIN. Some R&B rap and ol school house. There's a song called unravel me by Sabrina claudio and the bass on the h95 wasn't bad at all but disappointed with the volume of some of the songs I listened too. It could've been a lil louder. Almost bought it today but disappointed like i said with the volume part
Welcome back! The volume on the H95 is the main issue I hear about when people talk about the H95. I’m still trying to get my hands on these and the MW75. People have asked for these reviews and thought it would have been easier to get them for review… I listen to all types of genres as well and try to add them in some of the samples. Thanks for the recommendation!
@@DelonteM Pls let me kno cause i wanna get a good over eat headphone. also I'm hearing from some people that these rnt headphones for working out but I heard from people who sell them that it's ok just wipe them after use. Whats ur opinion.
@@mrguru091 If I looking at these two and knew I wanted to use them for the gym as well, I would probably go for the PX8. They stick to my head pretty well and they sound great. I don't recommend any of these two for working out, but if you were to use one of them for that, it would be the PX8. I don't think you could go wrong with the PX8. They EQ well, are really comfortable, good features, and sound great. I hope this helps!
Yo D I hope you've been well bro. Now that you're probably past the break-in period for the Bathys would you say they sound better than the 5909 or is 5909 the better sounding of the 2? And how would you rate the H95 sound vs the Bathys and 5909?
Welcome back, The 5909 is a very hard pair of headphones to beat in my opinion... The lows are very clean on the 5909 and plentiful, depending on what level you decide to listen to the bass in the app. You can always use a third party EQ, but the headphones are very clean the way way they are. You can also use the 5909 without a charge... The Bathys get louder, a bit better to get lost in the music. The Bathys also allows up to 24 bit 192 hi-res audio without a separate DAC/amp setup. I'll have a comparison video up soon with these two. I have not had a chance to get my hands on the H95 as of yet... A lot of people ask about them, I should have them soon for review (I hope, lol).
Just picked up the Bathys since they had a hefty sale on amazon. Returned my QC45
These things are easily the best headphones ive ever used, even though I have a pretty small sample size.
I know literally nothing about audiophile stuff (I still dont exactly know what mids or highs or soundstage are), but these things are revealing details in my music I never knew existed! They're also super comfy for me, almost as much as the QC45.
Yeah - on sale these are pretty damn great. Even as an "audiophile" I think these are one of the best, if not the best, ANC wireless headphones in terms of their sound and its not even close. Of course, there's still a some of that Bluetooth compression and downsides of a closed-back design but honestly, I think many people will be very happy with how it sounds. ANC is probably the only place where I think headphones like XM5 handily beat the Bathys.
hello i have a question.
px8 is possible to use USB DAC(connect to laptop) + chaging + ANC?
You can use the USB DAC mode and still use the noise cancellation options, but the charging will stop. I appreciate you taking the time to watch!
Best buy at the moment at least in Germany are the px7 s2 i buy them for 170€
두가지중 고민중이었는데 리뷰 감사합니다~^^
Well I guess if you want to spend that amount of money. If not and most don’t want to then get the px s7s2. Gets you 90% of the way there for loads cheaper. And the sennheiser momentum 4 are no slouches either. I can list more but you know where I am coming from considering spending bang for buck money.
Thanks for taking the time to watch the video! The PX7 S2 and the Momentum 4 are serious contenders for the price. The PX7 S2 and the Momentum 4 are some of the best pairs of headphones you can get for under $500. I’ll have a video comparing those two very soon… Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts!
@@DelonteM Unfortunately with electronics the extra money spent ain’t worth proportionally with whatever extra you are getting. I paid $329 for the s7 s2.
@@robertcuomo7084 You got a good deal on the PX7 S2! Prices are getting out of control… Headphones like the Soundcore Q45 are really good at $150 as well… Hope we get more competition that lowers the prices forcing others to do the same…
For an iPhone user, would you recommend these over AirPod Max? Or are you losing out on too much
Thanks for taking the time to watch! You lose out on spatial audio and the Apple ecosystem connectivity. Apple is rumored to bring the AirPods Max 2 soon. You may want to hold on and see what they provide. I personally don't find myself missing too much and use third party headphones a lot. I still use the AirPods Max and the 2nd Gen AirPods Pro as well, but both (PX8 & Bathys) headphones sound better than the AirPods Max, in my opinion. I personally do not feel you lose much at all, if anything you gain in sound quality. I hope this helps!
@@DelonteM thanks for the answer!!! New subscriber for sure
@@jonluzzi3015 No problem at all. Welcome to the team!
@@DelonteM I listened on my Air Pods Pro 2 and honestly loved the sound of the PX8s
@@jonluzzi3015 The PX8 is the more meatier of the two. The low end is a bit better with the PX8. The Bathys shine in the upper end. The PX8 has a lot going for it…
Great video like always. Keep up the great work bro. Love watching your reviews. You have great reviews and your style is great.
Yes the Bathys are glasses friendly. And i have thick glasses handles and Bathys are the most comfortable ones. Actually the only ones i can use while wearing glasses.
Not sure if you were aware of this, i saw it on another review and tested it out to see if it was true and it is. The Bathys will change its sound signature depending on how you have them on. If you pull them back it has one sound, pull them forward it has another sound, pull them up it has a different sound, pull them down it has another, and keeping them center (ears not touching the pads anywhere) it has another sound. You should test it out.
Welcome back! Great find, I will definitely try this! I appreciate you taking the time to check the videos! You’re always here day one and I really appreciate that! I’ll post the results of your findings!
@@DelonteM Yes sir, cant miss a great review from you.
Also let me know what you think. If you hear the difference in sound signature based on how you have them on.
@@angelsales8544 I appreciate you! I’ll let you the results!
Bathys sound much more spacious…. Making my purchase decisions difficult… was leaning towards PX8, now Bathys.
I really don’t think you would have issues with either. I appreciate you taking the time to watch!
Which one you bought? Im between one of this headphones, thanks
Благодарю за обзор....особенно за прослушивание на бинарных ушах!!!Успехов!!!
How do the Bathys compare to the 5909?
My apologies for the late reply. Both are excellent pairs of headphones! The Bathys has a 5-band EQ, but the 5909 can be used without power… I’ll have a video comparing the two soon, but you really can’t go wrong with either. The 5909 also has a lot more in the lows department. I hope this helps!
I went with the PX8. Coming from Microsoft Surface 2 headphones (horrendous build quality) the PX8 is a monumental improvement!
Thanks for taking the time to watch the video! The PX8 is built solid! One of the best pairs of headphones in regards to build quality! The buttons, the smell when you first inbox the headphones, and the overall feel of the PX8 is just great! There aren’t too many headphones that can match the build quality of the PX8. I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts!
Like the Bathys link sends you to a pair if Sennheiser headphones for £89…😂😂😂
Thanks for taking the time to watch the video! There may have been a glitch when the video first launched. I just checked it and the link sent me to the Focal Bathys headphones. I appreciate you letting me know and I hope it is fixed.
The forced enthusiasm is a bit much. Getting around to sound quality after the 13 minute mark is a bit of a red flag, as no one purchasing either of these headphones will prioritize anything else from the feature set. I'll say that it's disappointing to watch a 16 minute video where no winner is declared. Don't be scared. Let us know which one you liked more. I'm not a hater. I'm going to watch some of your other videos now.
I appreciate you taking the time to watch the video, but a lot of people actually appreciate the fact that I actually review the headphones. To say no one prioritizes the comfort level of headphones, the features, the actual battery life, gym use, ANC, call quality, and etc. is something you personally do not prioritize. I have tailored my reviews based on what people have asked me to include from various videos. Also, I don't say a "winner" because I feel it is not my place to do so. Someone can let me know if they feel otherwise, but I want the viewer to walk away with all of the information and make a decision based on what was presented. If I say a certain pair of headphones are the "winner," I feel that is pushing a viewer in a certain direction instead of letting them decide for themselves. I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts!
Conclusion: Get yourself a pair of Mark Levinson 5909 headphones and forget these two really compromised models from the video.
I heard that Mark Levinson hiss when nothing is played when the Focal and B&W are dead silent.
the b&w px8 sounds like xm4s, tuned for audiophiles, too much bass for my taste
Very true, I love the analogy used here! I have to say, I really appreciate all your support! You’re always one of the first to see the new videos and I very much appreciate it!
Why are you talking like there's a full stop after every word but the whole thing is a question? Just. Talk. Like. You. Normally. Do?
To all those who read reviewers' reviews of Bowers & Wikins PX8, please don't believe them at all because I am Singaporean and purchased my Bowers & wikins on 18th September 2023 from Jaben Singapore. Totally disappointing and not cheap at SGD 935.00.
The sound quality is a complete let down as they claim the sound is ever so good I can honestly tell you it is complete rubbish why the bass frequencies are very boomy and muddy sound instead of clean bass. The mid-range vocals are very suppressed and lack richness and warmth. After adjusting the equalizer settings, the high frequencies are very bright sounding.
The noise canceling is the worst, when I turn on the active noise canceling I 100% hear the noise of the standing fan wind spinning.
Overall, everything claimed by those reviewers on RUclips is untrue as they did not purchase the Bowers & wikins PX 8 themselves but loaned it to them for review purposes only. Please note, if not, you will regret it after buying it with your hard-earned money! ! ! ! ! !
I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts, but don’t assume things without at least asking. I purchased my PX8 headphones with my own money… My review is from my personal experiences with the headphones. You are certainly entitled to your own opinion, but my reviews are based on my honest thoughts and comparisons to other headphones. Once again, I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts!
Bought and happy 😊
Could it possibly that you had bad copy of the headphones return it if within warranty period and try another pair, I don't think any product is 100% well made there might be very small % of faulty made product