Spider-Man No Way Home Memory Wipe: Does Wong Remember?
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- Опубликовано: 4 сен 2022
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As Sorcerer Supreme, Wong has powers and knowledge of the mystic arts that surpass any other MCU character... including his ability to recall the Runes of Kof-Kol aka the memory wipe spell from Spider-Man No Way Home. Erik Voss breaks down Wong's reference to that confusing plot point from No Way Home in the latest episode of She-Hulk, and what it tells us about the ranking power of the Sorcerer Supreme compared to characters like Kang and The Watcher.
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I think Wong has his memory of nwh in tact. I think "leave me out of it. " was a much more literal statement and foreshadow than we initially realized.
I like the idea that the Sorcerer Supreme gave permission, as well as direction, being the reason.
It's probably because he's sorcerer supreme?
Exactly what I was thinking, just phrased better.
Yes 👍🏽
It makes sense. Because someone needs to remember in case there is an issue later.
When Wong said “leave me out of this” its possible that Strange erased everyones memory of Peter excepts for Wongs.. leaving him as the only being; Sorcerer Supreme knowing who to call when needed in the future
I think as Wong is sorcerer supreme he’s obliged to know of everything mystical and sorcery. He knew about the Book of Vishanti and Mount Wundagore
YES! WONG.
@@ccelite3782 I see I see… HISHE REFERENCE
wong was a librarian im sure he studied what was in there for the years he worked there
@@foreveronfire7292 well in multiverse of madness, they’re books that’s you get when you become sorcerer supreme, that proves the existence of the book of vishanti
Strange was Sorcerer Supreme for like 3 years and he didn't know fo the book of Vashanti or Wundagore.
Maybe wong's "leave me out of this" line inspired strange to exclude wong from the spell's effect.
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Nice one
I'm so glad they made Wong a bigger figure in these movies he's been awesome of an actor for his role
since shield is not around, and nor is nick fury atm, i wouldnt mind wong being the one that connects street lvl heroes as a mentor like fury does with the avengers. since strange would be focused on the outer planet stuff, i could see this working for me
S.H.I.E.L.D is around, just not publicly active.
Same
I would love to see a wongvengers
But definitely can’t wait to see some nick fury see what he has been up too after far from home.
I think Wong wiped everyone's memory of something else....he said, "I'm not wiping everyone's memory again." The line is supposed to remind us of Dr. Strange and No Way Home, but I think it may reference something else.
We do know that there have been other mind wipes; like the party that Stephen Strange wiped from people’s memory which is alluded to in NWH…
He might have done it for mutants to not be known to exist?
X men!!
Nah he was talking about Spiderman. But he didnt do it. Steven pranked him by convincing he did it, like the party at Kamar-Taj.
You are right Dario . Dont know why those gimmicks are talking such a bs.
Wong is clearly talking about another incident!
Wong is too powerful he knows everything
I think Wong and Strange remember him. Little things strange did made me think he wouldn’t leave Peter all alone.
Maybe Wong is doing his version of breaking the 4th wall. He knows what the audience knows.
This movie was a rollercoaster for the younger generation, and a rollercoaster of emotions for those who grew up on Toby and Andrew
even though I loved Andrew coming back
how nostalgic are we really for someone who was spiderman two years before Tom?
it's not two different generations
My tattoo artist is from Queens, and we had a session this Spring. He nearly couldn't talk about the energy in the theater without getting choked up. I could only imagine...
I grew up on Andrew and this comment is very true
@@IJustComment272 I grew up with Tobey but I love all 3 spideys equally. People who shit on Andrew and Tom, makes me sick.
@itaymorilo it doesn't matter how much or how little time passes. You can still be nostalgic about it.
Wong saying “Leave me Out of it” explains it all
"What if" instead of Wanda saying no more Mutants, they are setting us up that it's because of a memory wipe that we haven't realised that Mutants have been here all along? We just can't remember them?
What if Kang killed them in his timeline
"leave me out of it".. Wong still remembers, he was excused
Wong remembers everything. He told strange to leave him out of it meaning don't erase his memories.
He said it during the interaction with Dr Strange. "Just leave me out of it" which means he didn't include Wong per order in the memory wipe.
I actually wondered if Wong may remember Peter as Spiderman, and if so, I think they can frame it that Wong telling Dr. Strange to leave him out of it was him saying to make him an exception.
Guys, this is set before no way home, he made the same reference in no way home when he was warning strange. He was not talking about the movie because it had not happened yet at this point.
Yeah I was thinking this
Tell me you didn’t watch this video without telling me you didn’t watch this video.
I know right
Marvel timeline disagrees
Exactly. This is a pointless video.
Or Wong may have actually literally meant that Strange keep him out of it. As it don't effect Wong's mind, after all he is the Sorcerer Supreme so he would need to know the current standing of reality as. After all The balance of reality is kind of his current Jurisdiction as Sorcerer Supreme.
I wonder what was happening that made Wong say he “lost track of time”
Except Wong says he is “not erasing everyone’s memory, not again” meaning he has erased them before, not that STEPHEN has done it…
I think multiversal entities like the watcher and kang still remember who he is
I'm sure these spells wouldn't work on Cosmic beings, and Kang would know because he can see everything that has ever happened on the timeline so even if his memory was wiped momentarily, a moment in time is meaningless to him. He knows everything that has ever happened
The answer to everything is Wong!!!!
One of the perks of being Sorcerer Supreme!!!
Wong always there and there. My fav character so far.
But my question is, didn't he say he isn't doing it "again"? Meaning he himself had done it before? I think (or like to think) that Wong wiped persons' memories of something else, like perhaps, the identity or presence of mutants in the MCU?
I don't think kang has written anything after no way home because in loki they had crossed the threshold and kang hadnt written anything after that and when sylvie killed him it gave everyone free will
So if the events of nwh are occurring after the events of loki it means that everyone is now doing what they want to do according to the character they have become by kang's story
No. The entire TVA existed due to the ability to have free will. If Kang could just write everything they you don't need to try and keep a prime timeline, it would just exist.
Sylvie killed he who remains at the end of time though so how that fits chronologically in our MCU is very complicated like it technically happened after every thing and anything else... At the end of time literally
NWH and MoM are not part of the sacred timeline, we have diverged
Well, that would explain why everything has become...stupid
I would find it funny if eong remembers that scene as Peter wearing the spiderman mask
I just assumed he was referring to the kamartage party, which Strange just told him about, so he was aware of it.
Wong is the sorcerer supreme. Of course he is immune to spells like memory wipes.
great to have you back Voss
It may be he remembers being told about the full moon party and that something strange happened there. So his knowledge is based on that.
The ultimate Kang : Kevin Feige
he literally said leave me out of it i think that answers every question
love your videos
Would Doctor Strange or anyone else for that matter remember that the other universe Spider-Men are named Peter Parker.
No because Peter asks Strange to erase Peter Parker in general that would have to include the other Spider-Men
Strange remember meeting Spider variants, just not their name
@@yudhazacharias9377 No he doesnt !
Phase 4 is actually Wong Cinematic Universe lol
Or it could be he remembers what happens with 3 spidermen fighting bad guys at the empire tate building lol
“Just leave me out of this”
I loved the part in NWH when Wong said its Wong-ing time
no way i am early i love your videos keep it up thank you so much for posting
Loved this video
Wing wasn’t affected. He literally said “Leave Me Out Of It”
Of Course Dr.Strange took him literally.
Why would doctor strange take him literally.
U reaching
@@wilsonruleman because he's a scientist. Thats what scientists do.
He literally said leave him out of it…. 👍🏽
@@MatchesMalone91939 He's a doctor 🥴 a surgeon even 😷
Remember when Peter had a GED book on his counter? So does he have any public records? Confused about that more than ever!
public records of him are gone
Or maybe he did get his memory wiped but Dr. Strange filled him in on the details later
The photo thing reminds me of the doctor who perception filter concept, there instincts are making them want to look a way, but if pointed out to them they can actually acknowledge it if they try.
I think it's basically because of Wong's command to "leave him out of it".
Wong was talking about the party he and Dr. Strange went to.
that's undecided and he didn't even know about that until strange one-off mentions it
Also... @8:03 you see someone, it looks like the white light is someone moving with arms and hands. (not sure if y'all noticed that yet)
Lmk if I'm seeing shit 🤣
I kept saying that Wong is the one that knows! Because of the line after the movie!
Well, Wong did say, “Leave me out of this.” Strange is definitely the kind of person who would do that literally just to mess with Wong. Or as a backdoor in case Peter didn’t remind anyone who he was. Last or, could have been in another reality.
Orrrr Wong was referring to the incident before SMNWH since Strange told Wong that they have done it before.
My question is does it effect everyone one throughout the universe or just our earth? Because for Strange to be able to do that to the hold universal, puts him on the same level of the infinity stones
Let’s just say hypothetically, WONG just knows everything , since he wasn’t even part of the movie anyway , so it doesn’t make sense on how Wong would erase the memories
He did say "leave me out of it" I think he meant literally
My guess is that won't remembers who spiderman really is is because he's sorcerer supreme the most powerful wizard by default over time since strange was dusted for five years.
He's Back!
Three Things:
1) Simply, Wong says, "leave me out of it". So, perhaps, Dr. Strange did and Wong remembers.
2) Yes, Fiction. Yes, hard to explain everything. However, while people do not remember "Peter Parker". What about all of the archival videos? Like J Jonah Jameson's outing Parker. All the news videos for that matter. Avengers video records?
3) Aunt May is dead. Aunt May's apartment is not! Aunt May's money is not! So, why does Peter have to move...and why to a dump? Yes, again fiction but still!
number 2 is debunked, the 2nd theatrical release of nwh addresses that at the end. Even the videos are erased,blocked or blurred peter. I do believe strange and wong remember to help peter down the line. As for peter he believes he is al alone, so this is good story. can't wait to see what the future holds.
Wong says “I’m” not erasing everyone’s memory again. So he’s gotta be referring to a time HE used it that we haven’t seen, not Dr Strange using it.
True. In NWH he mentioned erasing memories of people at a Party!
I still want to know how Doctor Strange knew how to send Andrew Garfield and Tobey Maguire back to their universes but needed America Chavez to travel to another universe in MoM
I think that Wong simply was somewhere else and far enough
We can only hope fans. Though in my opinion; Stephen Strange's third could eventually make him see glimpses of Peter Parker.
I may be a softy, but really hope the Peter mindwipe gets fixed in the minds of those that were closest to him. It hurt so much watching him go through that.
It's Wongin time
Wong told strange to "Leave me out of this" I gather that was directly meaning to not include him as a victim of the spell(s);
One of the few channels who still make the MCU fun.
1:17 this is what wong remembered
Couldn't this be an in-universe explanation for the Mandela effect?
Does NR and Screencrush post the same videos, with the same length, on the same days, on purpose? It happens a lot lol
Actually if Stephen did wipe his memory of that party it’s a kinda mean trick.
Any chance "leave me out of it" meant he was left out of the memory wipe...so he still remembers?
Okay so if technically Peter still does exist but just not known by people/forgotten, that doesn’t mean his transcripts and school stuff still don’t exist right?? So why at the end of no way home did he have a book for the GED if technically he does have record of completing highschool? Bc he’s still in the yearbooks etc? Anyone?
What if something happened and he wiped everyone elses mind after peters?
he did say “leave me out of it” 🤣
So this indicates Shang-Chi also takes place after Spiderman NWH
The Wong CineWongic Wongverse.
Wong said leave me out of it. He meant that literally and Dr Strange obliged
Ive been loving the WCU lately.
Wong remembers because he's Wong.
Where’s the Rick and Morty vid at?
Of course Wong does, Wong is a rogue Watcher, he knows all.
"Leave me out of it" = Don't wipe my memory.
The next largest saga in the MCU: The Wong saga
Wong's smart, we know this from his time playing Street Countdown.
Lol...
Moss? Is that you?
Maybe at the time that happened, Wong was in a different dimension. And if he was in a different dimension, then maybe his memory was not wiped when it happened.
Or maybe Secret Invasion Easter egg .
I think that only the sorcerer supreme is able to know these things which is why strange knew about the full moon party
Possibly, or he remembers his actions like with Strange
What? Wait. Mordo carries the staff of the living tribunal? Hmm interesting…🤔
Or or oooooorrr...Wong does actually remember Peter meeting with Strange at the sanctum but just doesn't remember his name. Kinda like not putting a name to the face. Wong could eventually engage with Peter in the future starting the whole getting to know Peter over again process
I think the Sorcerer Supreme can remember everything, just like Strange remembered the full moon party when he was Sorcerer Supreme but Wong didn't at that time. So now Wong being SS has now has that power
nah
He clearly said to leave him out of it...
Wong is a skrull
"Leave me out of this". I think Strange did exactly that, which is why Wong remembers.
He said leave him out of it
So great
Leave me out of it was him saying to leave him out of the spells reach .
should have wiped memory of those who found out via Mysterio, but that would have not made for a good film
3:36 yeah, but he knows Peter is Spidey, so right now he only remember Spidey asking for help
The answer is right there. Wong told him to leave him out of it.
My read on Jen’s comment about the memory wipe was “[suggesting] that was highly unethical”
Wong did tell strange to leave him out of it
He said I'm not if you listen