People here seem to fail to understand that some pve players DONT want a hardcore experience. They DONT want a forced wipe, they DONT want terminator AI. They DONT want to lose gear, and rely on insurance. They DONT want to struggle to make money. Please realize people want to enjoy the game, but can't dedicate as many hours to it as a standard or sweaty player. However, there are players who do, and thats perfectly ok, all changes regarding difficulty should be made in consideration to all parties, or simply optional and adjustable to all players. Be kind, and respect all players opinions, we all simply love the game.
@SOhioBuckeye I don't mod, nor do I know how to. I have no experience on or about it. And I have no interest in changing the current experience. However, this is a conversation about standard, vanilla tarkov. If those interested care enough to look into it and have a better experience playing it, more power to them.
@@maphy401 If you can click and drag you can mod. It literally installs itself. But, if that's your thing that's fine. I'm not here to ride a white horse. I have a little over 2000 hours in Tarkov (PVP/Vanilla). I was just simply saying that SPT checks every single box you mentioned and then some.
yeah, i care more about this than the pve or even the cheaters. i wanna hop on the game in a few months without needing to start over. i actually play more now cuz it doesnt feel as pointless
Okay, the point is you will eventually get bored with the same account. The game right now IS doing the quests and progressing. Not just running meta kits with maxed out traders nonstop lmao. Idk how you people don't understand this. I'm guessing you're new and have never played pvp lol
Right?? I havent played too much of the normal pvp but Ive been playing arenas for a bit and I find that the pvp is much much more enjoyable when you can get over the skill gap without being ran over by chads all the damn time😂
I honestly wouldn't mind the Smugglers being a constant faction in the PVE world. They were fun to run into, because unlike the PVE PMCs I've run into, they were almost always in groups of 3, meaning you really had to pick your moments if you went to attack them, and just stumbling on them could be a potential nightmare if you just exit a building and see 3 of them coming around the corner at you. Some AI balancing would be nice too. It would be nice to see the AI just get a little more variety added to the way they work. I feel like I'm either dealing with guys who can see through every tree and bush between us all the way across the map, and hit me in the face the moment I move out from behind a branch, or guys who just stare at me as I run up and fire into their face wondering what they were doing. I think it would even be cool to get AI for the PMCs where they will sometimes try to work with you, asking if they can follow you, leaving you to decide if you want to be friendly or take their stuff. For Scavs it would be cool to see them sometimes become traitors and fire on you or also follow you around.
i think the first thing it needs is better AI. the AI fight for the first minute then stay in one spot until the player comes then they 1 tap you with a pm through your level 5/6 armor..
PvE mode should have like a ng+ system, just keep your skills and mastery levels. Everything else can just reset and can work like a “prestige system”.
They could add like gloves and watches/bracelets for completing achievements, small things that won't change gameplay but let you show off you completed something. Maybe add a gear patch system where you can put moral patches on your carrier/bag/helmet, and make them unlockable via achievements. BSG currently can barely keep players accounts from wiping when they play PVP and Arena, i have no faith they could balance multiple profiles under one account in a single mode. Would be chaos of random profiles wipes like we have had all this wipe already. If you want multiple accounts play SPT, don't give BSG more money.
Can't even play cause i have 40fps with my pmc. With my scav i have over 100fps even on interchange. Too bad cause i really like pve casually playing when i get off work.
Apparently my PC can't even run streets, ran it offline to learn it then tried to run a PVE streets and a singular player couldn't even connect to the server lol. That's a issue cause, I'll wait until the games is out and when the goons don't chase me down every time they spawn, after all, other pmcs are on the map but the scavs only go to the human player... bosses only go to the human unless pmcs and scavs spawn next to each other...
Pve has been fun for me. I haven’t played in for awhile and uninstalled for break playing other games. Tarkov needs something new and fun for me to come back
put cosmetics after a paywall, simple. they need to find a way to get money to keep the game alive and running on the long term. and money sink? yea but unlock it after you reach 50M or so, bc i spend a lot... usually more than ii earn so i'm not always broke but a lot. (still leveling and not farming money) So if they put in another money sink (next to the hideout) thats gonna be painfull
I mean I agree prestige would be great for pve but If you want to wipe your character the option is always there. A difficulty slider would be a great addition I agree there... As far as the AI killing bosses before you can get there... As someone who has played pve since it launched I much rather prefer that than the AI just ignoring each other like they were before... Boss kill tasks are still significantly easier on pve than they are on pvp... You could spend an entire week trying to farm the golden tt off rashala in pvp with no luck
Slow your raids done pal. Peak corners. Use flash bangs, guns with scopes etc. Your start to learn ai spawns and behaviour which will make it easier. Take your time. Use that time to pick of scavs/ai loot and extract with only a few minutes left. Much more xp and more fun. Treat it like a survival shooter. Not just a shooter and your improve
@Johno7685 Sounds nice. But tell me what to do when AI is 50m far with sks or aks and instakill me in the head while i run to cover. Then flips at my bro and same thing. There is nothing fair about AI in this game.
@_nohatejustcriticism_8863 yeah I get it it's frustrating. But hear me out. Your not ment to survive every raid. You will die and that's fine. It makes the wins feel better. If you were to breeze through every maps, task or achievement you wouldn't get the buzz. After I did all of my kappa quests it took me over 150 raids to find my last item (armband). I carried on learning angles and getting better. Am I any good... not really. I've average. But I learnt alot from it. Change up the guns you use. The style you play. Play each map differently. Don't just run off spawn to your objective. Work your way around the maps. Learn the maps inside out. If your getting caught out moving from cover to cover then approach from a different angle. Each death is a learning curve. Trust me yoy take your time and your enjoy it so much more.
@@Johno7685 idk about his experience, but my main issue is the goons. Mainly big pipe and bird eye, knight is easy if he pushes alone but I've died only to the goons recently and it's annoying how they push you, the human player and not the AI pmcs on map unless they literally cross paths. I've recently even seen scavs and pmcs ignoring each other to push me, AI is broken in pve honestly
You are 100% right, I mean, by now I have over 1.3 Billion Rubles, and it doesn't really motivate me to continue. I personally think that PVE should ONLY be used for training purposes, but BSG should level PVP better, a system where your progression is balanced with concerning opponents. A system where you can choose yourself between beginner, medium or hardcore opponents and also the loot.Of course make sure the cheaters spoiling for everyone's game are a thing of the past. But I really feel that BSG makes too easy and too much money with it, because they sell action bulk packages, something a normal player really does not buy, there is no reason for it, you can buy an account for friends though, or several for the normal price.
Bring back the Found in Raid so not everything gets on Flee and nice would be if u have the possible to disable the ai but then the items u found are not FiR and so not possible to sell on Flea
To many bugs in pve to have all quest done yet and ai not acting correctly to say what to change. Plus Nikita says we don't know many story questions yet so don't know what changes there I would do. PvE should have 1 usec and 1 bear profile so you can do/learn difference in missions between 2. Remove flea and make items needed "more common" to find on certain maps from pve. Make player go find things needed instead of "just buying it". Would make guns more interesting to build and things more valuable to find in raid.
They should cap the amount of rubles you can have so you rely more on barters, no barter flipping, custom servers we can mod, sadly none of this is coming because they dont care for PVE. The smugglers were the most fun Ive had in PVE so far. Great loot and great combat.
you can cap yourself and rely on barter. no one is stopping u from doing that. a lot of people wont like this option but everyone can choose for themselves
Prestige system on PvE seems cool idea for inflation long term.
People here seem to fail to understand that some pve players DONT want a hardcore experience. They DONT want a forced wipe, they DONT want terminator AI. They DONT want to lose gear, and rely on insurance. They DONT want to struggle to make money.
Please realize people want to enjoy the game, but can't dedicate as many hours to it as a standard or sweaty player.
However, there are players who do, and thats perfectly ok, all changes regarding difficulty should be made in consideration to all parties, or simply optional and adjustable to all players.
Be kind, and respect all players opinions, we all simply love the game.
There's a solution to this. SPT, it's 10x what Tarkov PVE will ever be.
@SOhioBuckeye I don't mod, nor do I know how to. I have no experience on or about it. And I have no interest in changing the current experience. However, this is a conversation about standard, vanilla tarkov. If those interested care enough to look into it and have a better experience playing it, more power to them.
@@maphy401 If you can click and drag you can mod. It literally installs itself. But, if that's your thing that's fine. I'm not here to ride a white horse. I have a little over 2000 hours in Tarkov (PVP/Vanilla). I was just simply saying that SPT checks every single box you mentioned and then some.
@@SOhioBuckeye how is the coop? i play with friends across the world and dont wanna deal with server hosting
@notanonymous3976 it is horrible as ir runs of your pc
If you want to wipe your account just do it. I like that I have done shitty quest once and for good.
seriously
yeah, i care more about this than the pve or even the cheaters. i wanna hop on the game in a few months without needing to start over. i actually play more now cuz it doesnt feel as pointless
I actually like the whole wipe system and waiting for the pvp wipe to wipe my PvE
@@BruhtheBruhman u can do it manually if you want it..
Okay, the point is you will eventually get bored with the same account. The game right now IS doing the quests and progressing. Not just running meta kits with maxed out traders nonstop lmao. Idk how you people don't understand this.
I'm guessing you're new and have never played pvp lol
BSG doesnt know how to program NPC AI plain and simple
Before I wasn’t comfortable with pvp because learning maps and tasks but getting kappa on PvE I’ve switched to pvp and enjoy and doing really well
Right?? I havent played too much of the normal pvp but Ive been playing arenas for a bit and I find that the pvp is much much more enjoyable when you can get over the skill gap without being ran over by chads all the damn time😂
I honestly wouldn't mind the Smugglers being a constant faction in the PVE world. They were fun to run into, because unlike the PVE PMCs I've run into, they were almost always in groups of 3, meaning you really had to pick your moments if you went to attack them, and just stumbling on them could be a potential nightmare if you just exit a building and see 3 of them coming around the corner at you.
Some AI balancing would be nice too. It would be nice to see the AI just get a little more variety added to the way they work. I feel like I'm either dealing with guys who can see through every tree and bush between us all the way across the map, and hit me in the face the moment I move out from behind a branch, or guys who just stare at me as I run up and fire into their face wondering what they were doing.
I think it would even be cool to get AI for the PMCs where they will sometimes try to work with you, asking if they can follow you, leaving you to decide if you want to be friendly or take their stuff. For Scavs it would be cool to see them sometimes become traitors and fire on you or also follow you around.
i think the first thing it needs is better AI. the AI fight for the first minute then stay in one spot until the player comes then they 1 tap you with a pm through your level 5/6 armor..
Ai pen rates and instantly hitting 3-5 bullets per bullet shot being fixed would be nice, or pinpoint accuracy from 200m on turrets.
PvE mode should have like a ng+ system, just keep your skills and mastery levels. Everything else can just reset and can work like a “prestige system”.
They could add like gloves and watches/bracelets for completing achievements, small things that won't change gameplay but let you show off you completed something. Maybe add a gear patch system where you can put moral patches on your carrier/bag/helmet, and make them unlockable via achievements.
BSG currently can barely keep players accounts from wiping when they play PVP and Arena, i have no faith they could balance multiple profiles under one account in a single mode. Would be chaos of random profiles wipes like we have had all this wipe already. If you want multiple accounts play SPT, don't give BSG more money.
Can't even play cause i have 40fps with my pmc. With my scav i have over 100fps even on interchange. Too bad cause i really like pve casually playing when i get off work.
Im the opposite pmc rates are fantastic but scav and streets is horrendous
Apparently my PC can't even run streets, ran it offline to learn it then tried to run a PVE streets and a singular player couldn't even connect to the server lol. That's a issue cause, I'll wait until the games is out and when the goons don't chase me down every time they spawn, after all, other pmcs are on the map but the scavs only go to the human player... bosses only go to the human unless pmcs and scavs spawn next to each other...
Pve has been fun for me. I haven’t played in for awhile and uninstalled for break playing other games. Tarkov needs something new and fun for me to come back
put cosmetics after a paywall, simple. they need to find a way to get money to keep the game alive and running on the long term.
and money sink? yea but unlock it after you reach 50M or so, bc i spend a lot... usually more than ii earn so i'm not always broke but a lot.
(still leveling and not farming money)
So if they put in another money sink (next to the hideout) thats gonna be painfull
I mean I agree prestige would be great for pve but If you want to wipe your character the option is always there. A difficulty slider would be a great addition I agree there... As far as the AI killing bosses before you can get there... As someone who has played pve since it launched I much rather prefer that than the AI just ignoring each other like they were before... Boss kill tasks are still significantly easier on pve than they are on pvp... You could spend an entire week trying to farm the golden tt off rashala in pvp with no luck
For me AI its too hardcore. Instakill from far away or rushing me like ˇno rusianˇ So option to easy or lower then hardcore will be cool.
Slow your raids done pal. Peak corners. Use flash bangs, guns with scopes etc. Your start to learn ai spawns and behaviour which will make it easier. Take your time. Use that time to pick of scavs/ai loot and extract with only a few minutes left. Much more xp and more fun. Treat it like a survival shooter. Not just a shooter and your improve
@Johno7685 Sounds nice. But tell me what to do when AI is 50m far with sks or aks and instakill me in the head while i run to cover. Then flips at my bro and same thing. There is nothing fair about AI in this game.
@_nohatejustcriticism_8863 yeah I get it it's frustrating. But hear me out. Your not ment to survive every raid. You will die and that's fine. It makes the wins feel better. If you were to breeze through every maps, task or achievement you wouldn't get the buzz. After I did all of my kappa quests it took me over 150 raids to find my last item (armband). I carried on learning angles and getting better. Am I any good... not really. I've average. But I learnt alot from it. Change up the guns you use. The style you play. Play each map differently. Don't just run off spawn to your objective. Work your way around the maps. Learn the maps inside out. If your getting caught out moving from cover to cover then approach from a different angle. Each death is a learning curve. Trust me yoy take your time and your enjoy it so much more.
@@Johno7685 idk about his experience, but my main issue is the goons. Mainly big pipe and bird eye, knight is easy if he pushes alone but I've died only to the goons recently and it's annoying how they push you, the human player and not the AI pmcs on map unless they literally cross paths. I've recently even seen scavs and pmcs ignoring each other to push me, AI is broken in pve honestly
I kinda wish insurance wasn’t 100% or nearly with a friend. Would make the game play loop better having to loot and use the traders more.
take away insurance all together and the contrainer, imo.
i stopped using insurance after like lvl 20. in PVE its crutch that makes every death outside of labs/streets not really matter
you are not forced to insure your gear btw
you can choose which items u want to insure u can also choose to not use the flea market
I hate to be the broken record on here, but SPT has ALL OF THIS STUFFF guys. If you enjoy PVE, SPT is a straight upgrade in every way.
im all for making the game more difficult as long as it's optional. id also like the game to be easier too. just depend on how i feel really 😂
Pvp deserved all priority while pve needs mod support
will never get mod support outside of something like SPT. SPT is great though i play it from time to time
You are 100% right, I mean, by now I have over 1.3 Billion Rubles, and it doesn't really motivate me to continue. I personally think that PVE should ONLY be used for training purposes, but BSG should level PVP better, a system where your progression is balanced with concerning opponents. A system where you can choose yourself between beginner, medium or hardcore opponents and also the loot.Of course make sure the cheaters spoiling for everyone's game are a thing of the past. But I really feel that BSG makes too easy and too much money with it, because they sell action bulk packages, something a normal player really does not buy, there is no reason for it, you can buy an account for friends though, or several for the normal price.
Ya I don’t wanna wipe quests
Bring back the Found in Raid so not everything gets on Flee and nice would be if u have the possible to disable the ai but then the items u found are not FiR and so not possible to sell on Flea
i wish more things were on flea market. so much ammos and guns u cannot buy
Good stuff
To many bugs in pve to have all quest done yet and ai not acting correctly to say what to change. Plus Nikita says we don't know many story questions yet so don't know what changes there I would do.
PvE should have 1 usec and 1 bear profile so you can do/learn difference in missions between 2.
Remove flea and make items needed "more common" to find on certain maps from pve. Make player go find things needed instead of "just buying it". Would make guns more interesting to build and things more valuable to find in raid.
Smuggler event was fantastic
What's wrong with people about PVE, it's just meant to be like this. Go play pvp, stop trying to change PVE.
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They should cap the amount of rubles
you can have so you rely more on barters, no barter flipping, custom servers we can mod, sadly none of this is coming because they dont care for PVE. The smugglers were the most fun Ive had in PVE so far. Great loot and great combat.
you can cap yourself and rely on barter. no one is stopping u from doing that. a lot of people wont like this option but everyone can choose for themselves