Path of Exile is comeing in two weeks, so, bye all, i see you all in 10 years or so...goodbye 👋 maybe in that time Steven deliver 5% of all of his BS that he say in last 8 years.... But again, i don't believe him...he also say that AOC gonna be done and ready in 2020 year 🤣
Much appreciated your take on AoC, well said too. I do disagree with what was said at 8:20. Personally I don't think we'll ever be able to hit that same "earthquake of magic" that WoW gave us in 2004. Simply because technology wasn't really there yet. Social media didn't rule our minds and world. I played back in 2007-2010 and I really don't think AoC will have that same impact. Not saying that the foundation of what its trying to bring isn't magnificent and magical; it definitely is. Just haven't been able to see all that much in this Alpha with the game being 9 years in development.
I personally don't think that Ashes is going to shake things up in the MMO scene. I could be wrong, but I think it is going to fill a specific niche in the scene that is not currently being filled (maybe EVE still is). I feel like there's a limit onto how many players a game like this can bring to the scene. I'd love to be proven wrong though, as I've been really enjoying the alpha so far
@MartinaBabic-es6bz I understand all parts of wow being a complete game. But being a complete game doesn't mean I have to be happy they are selling 90 dollar jpegs.
@@ivan-to2zy if they throw at you that you can buy some staff from their shop, is that mean you need to buy it? NO! Don't worry, in time AOC will have same shit as others. That's your on choice do you gonna buy staff or not. I played WOW for 10years, never ever buy nothing from shop. Also, i never ever buy nothing from other games shops also...i don't care about pixel staff, only game!
@@MartinaBabic-es6bz bro cope more. Wow sucks. Classic was good for its time and okish now. No one likes wow except for streamers and blizzard fan boys. Wow is even below no lifers tastes.
The way I justified the $120 price point to joining the alpha was looking at their expected duration of alpha (likely 12-18 months). It’s cheaper than if you were to pay for the sub for the same amount of time and I understand the initial paywall decision while still making it cheaper for players that intend to stick around to test.
As someone heavily invested in L2 and Archeage back in the day, the AoC missed the mark by about 5 years for me. I just don't see myself playing it anymore, especially when it still takes like 3 years to come out. I just don't see the game being fun for anyone who doesn't treat it as a secondary job.
The fact that you only mention world of warcraft, lets the audience know, that you don't know what you are talking about. Steven Sharif started this project on the basis of Lineage 2 and Runescape, not world of warcraft. That is the main reason Ashes of Creation looks like it does.
That's because this is a WoW channel, and it's the most successful MMO. Regardless of inspiration, it will always be compared to WoW. It's kinda silly to judge this specific point.
@@AshenInsights No it is not, when he is doing doomsday news, that has nothing to do with the game. Either you pay to get alpha or you don't. No need to make a video with comparison this early and use wow 2004 as base argument, when the ashes of creation created was inspired by other games.
Ashes might be a good game, but it wont even compete with WoW let alone kill it. It's an entirely different category of MMO, more like Eve, Archeage, Lineage or Albion Online.
No serious company would charge money to test an alpha version. I bet the high price is mainly to get RUclipsrs to buy the game and people who are already very hyped and don't even realize what they are being promised and what is really there. I really wonder if people are incapable of comparing game developments. Unreal Engine 5 is used to speed up production. It is also possible to migrate from 4 to 5, which was not possible with 3 to 4. Basically, the effort for migration is not that great. Even laymen can create things with Unreal 5 Engine - it doesn't cost any money. Personally, I prefer Unity more because Unreal Engine has such a typical Unreal Engine 5 look, which is pretty genetic, and all developers have the same problems and think it's the game's fault. The workarounds to reduce stuttering are pretty wild. Do you think MLM is not a scam even though people work there? They are selling an idea, not really a product. If the game were to be released secretly as an alpha under a different name, people would not rate it so positively. I recommend you download Unreal Engine 5, it's free, and try to make something that looks good.
Everyone is experiencing Sunk-cost fallacy with AoC. Spending 120$ for an alpha test of a game that has been in development for what? 8 years now? And really doesn't have much to show for something being in development for 8 years and the amount of funding they have been given from their bundles and such. Yeah somethings are being done right, but what took so long? Where did all that money go? Cuz right now it looks like it's only been in development for 1-2 years. Doesn't look any different from anything else that's been thrown out, and died on arrival like New World(or other "NEXT BIG MMO"s). The difference between Star Citizen and AoC. SC has Chris Roberts. A KNOWN developer who treats his games as passion projects and is KNOWN to keep pushing the limits. Freelancer was gonna have almost all the features of SC, and microsoft had to rush and threaten Roberts to release. Stevens is a known MLM shill, and known to be part of scams. He's not trustworthy at all. I'm not defending SC cuz it's scummy too, but at least has something to show. AoC really doesn't show 8 years worth of development with that kind of budget.
no one that has played wow for the past 20 years is going to switch over to AoC. Im sorry its just never going to happen. WoW players will go to their graave playing WoW.
@@bohne8746 kids kids kids... don't let your own bias taint your thought processes for that of others... "What we wish, we readily believe, and what we ourselves think, we imagine others think also." - Julius Caesar
Ashes is wow killer, play it before you talk on the matter? Fresh classic is all wow has, retail is hot trash, and the devs are incapable of creating anything new. Peep sod. Change my mind
Im tired of early access this early that beta this beta that. Ill play the game when it comes out. Absolutely ridiculous the game has taken over 10 years to create. Sure, they needed money to keep going, but 10 years in technology is a long ass time. 10 years go by and their game is immediately out dated. They probbaly have to do a refresh on the engine that runs the game once a year since stuff is always improving
I don't think AoC will even make a dent in the landscape but I don't think for a second that it's a scam. It kind of hits the same space as Star Citizen: Scummy funding, gouging the believers, endless delays coupled with endless feature creep, but development leadership that absolutely believe in what they're doing. I will say that no matter what future product your talking about, if the developers stop believing the sales pitch it becomes a scam.
what you said was ok to say a year ago, not now when you can actually play it and its being updated , and very soon we will get much bigger updates , most of people play it are having fun
well i see that they shipped like 1/10th of a whole map? I'm quite certain that other map is not and will not be ready on release which will be like in 2 years?
Hate to be a doomer...this looks terrible for the resources that have put in. Maybe I just hate the unreal engine look...but it feels so generic. So boring. WoW gives you more artistic diversity in the first 5 minutes upon logging in for the first time. This feels like a game targeted at MMO players...which is fine....but it will never kill WoW if its purely horizontal in nature. Bloat is killer for these studios. They promise way too much...and then deliver on 50% of it.
new Sub here ;) , i want to add my 2 cent on your video , yes Game is in production for 7 years but count realisticly 3 years Real Production as you cant see the First 4 years are Post Production , getting the Staff location etc.. etc ... About your Shop info , nobody force anyone to buy cosmetic pack as Steven said it many times what ever you can buy in the shop can be found in the game , Same as funding of the game he said it also many many Times dont purchase the Alpha if you think it is a Game wait until game is released as i fund the game with my Own money . i see people people complaining bout beeing a scam as there is not a lot done in the 7 years , nobody knows what they have been doin behind the scene maybe other biomes are rdy either way it is all wait and see as Alpha 2 is all about Networking , and again i say it to the people Watching your video DO NOT PURCHASE THE ALPHA unless you rdy to get into a bugged Game with here and there Server wipe .. and are ready to report bugs ... Great video @ebonhardt
Ashes is such a scam. Just list every promise the developer has made since AoC's inception and Kickstarter and see how many have been fulfilled. People are huffing pure copium when they can't look at the facts.
Steven was miss using company funds an is still miss using funds that's why he's trying to cash grab for this alpha. Not to mention he's got hundreds of thousands in taxes to pay the irs Even when he played ArcheAge he was a scammer ingame ... what do u think he's doing rn
idk why but ashes looks so bad, the lighting is awful, the animations look janky, the character models are appalling, the UI looks gross, and a lot of the gameplay mechanics sound super unfun or only for sweats and incels. i hope it is all these things and the sweats and incels will flock to it and leave good games so we can stop seeing them farm for attention in worldchat
I 100% agree with you on Lighting, Animations and Character models, I am just hoping it gets fixed/polished once the base game systems are built and ready. I have seen some leaks of lighting updates and they look good, finally makes us feel it’s really a Unreal 5 game, lol 😅
Yeah, looks like a scam. I would have already paid for a key if PvP was optional. But no, they are going to force everyone to play with all the gankers!
Do you believe in Ashes? Why or why not?
No, steven shariff was a scammer for years to make his money. why would you think a scammer can make anything?
Path of Exile is comeing in two weeks, so, bye all, i see you all in 10 years or so...goodbye 👋
maybe in that time Steven deliver 5% of all of his BS that he say in last 8 years.... But again, i don't believe him...he also say that AOC gonna be done and ready in 2020 year 🤣
Looking forward to more AoC content. Might be the new best thing out there.
I'm excited to make more content about it. The game is genuinely doing a lot right.
Much appreciated your take on AoC, well said too.
I do disagree with what was said at 8:20. Personally I don't think we'll ever be able to hit that same "earthquake of magic" that WoW gave us in 2004. Simply because technology wasn't really there yet. Social media didn't rule our minds and world. I played back in 2007-2010 and I really don't think AoC will have that same impact. Not saying that the foundation of what its trying to bring isn't magnificent and magical; it definitely is. Just haven't been able to see all that much in this Alpha with the game being 9 years in development.
I personally don't think that Ashes is going to shake things up in the MMO scene. I could be wrong, but I think it is going to fill a specific niche in the scene that is not currently being filled (maybe EVE still is). I feel like there's a limit onto how many players a game like this can bring to the scene. I'd love to be proven wrong though, as I've been really enjoying the alpha so far
Wow released 90 dollar mount: Players like
AoC charging120% of that price to play the game (albeit in development): Players think it's garbage
WOW is complete game, what par of that you don't understand?
@MartinaBabic-es6bz I understand all parts of wow being a complete game. But being a complete game doesn't mean I have to be happy they are selling 90 dollar jpegs.
@@ivan-to2zy if they throw at you that you can buy some staff from their shop, is that mean you need to buy it? NO! Don't worry, in time AOC will have same shit as others. That's your on choice do you gonna buy staff or not. I played WOW for 10years, never ever buy nothing from shop. Also, i never ever buy nothing from other games shops also...i don't care about pixel staff, only game!
@@ivan-to2zy If i remeber good, AOC have online shop for cosmetics, so there your answer...
@@MartinaBabic-es6bz bro cope more. Wow sucks. Classic was good for its time and okish now. No one likes wow except for streamers and blizzard fan boys. Wow is even below no lifers tastes.
The way I justified the $120 price point to joining the alpha was looking at their expected duration of alpha (likely 12-18 months). It’s cheaper than if you were to pay for the sub for the same amount of time and I understand the initial paywall decision while still making it cheaper for players that intend to stick around to test.
The dark Ebon arc has begun
I quit wow like 7 years ago. Am already having way more fun ln ahses than i ever did om wow, this is only the beginning
yeah, right 🤣
you have 120 reasons to lie to yourself!
@@MartinaBabic-es6bz quiet blizztard.
Sunk-cost fallacy bro lol
@@RenderMan1337 but it's really not. In spent like fuckin 1.3k on wow over my life
As someone heavily invested in L2 and Archeage back in the day, the AoC missed the mark by about 5 years for me. I just don't see myself playing it anymore, especially when it still takes like 3 years to come out. I just don't see the game being fun for anyone who doesn't treat it as a secondary job.
For MMOs its not standard to be not pay to win if its a monthly sub... just check wow :D You pay a monthly sub and can buy gold, go in gdkps and "win"
Culturallt defining. Lol. No. I love forced open world pvp. But, were a fringe market. A very small niche.
riot mmo was canceled awhile ago was it not?
The fact that you only mention world of warcraft, lets the audience know, that you don't know what you are talking about. Steven Sharif started this project on the basis of Lineage 2 and Runescape, not world of warcraft. That is the main reason Ashes of Creation looks like it does.
That's because this is a WoW channel, and it's the most successful MMO. Regardless of inspiration, it will always be compared to WoW. It's kinda silly to judge this specific point.
@@AshenInsights No it is not, when he is doing doomsday news, that has nothing to do with the game. Either you pay to get alpha or you don't. No need to make a video with comparison this early and use wow 2004 as base argument, when the ashes of creation created was inspired by other games.
aoc is based on lineage 2 and archeage, not runescape
@@qvick3280 Right archeage, not runescape. Thank you!
I think AoC is still 5 years away from release.
It's never going to release.
Ashes might be a good game, but it wont even compete with WoW let alone kill it. It's an entirely different category of MMO, more like Eve, Archeage, Lineage or Albion Online.
No serious company would charge money to test an alpha version. I bet the high price is mainly to get RUclipsrs to buy the game and people who are already very hyped and don't even realize what they are being promised and what is really there.
I really wonder if people are incapable of comparing game developments.
Unreal Engine 5 is used to speed up production. It is also possible to migrate from 4 to 5, which was not possible with 3 to 4. Basically, the effort for migration is not that great. Even laymen can create things with Unreal 5 Engine - it doesn't cost any money. Personally, I prefer Unity more because Unreal Engine has such a typical Unreal Engine 5 look, which is pretty genetic, and all developers have the same problems and think it's the game's fault. The workarounds to reduce stuttering are pretty wild.
Do you think MLM is not a scam even though people work there? They are selling an idea, not really a product. If the game were to be released secretly as an alpha under a different name, people would not rate it so positively. I recommend you download Unreal Engine 5, it's free, and try to make something that looks good.
Everyone is experiencing Sunk-cost fallacy with AoC. Spending 120$ for an alpha test of a game that has been in development for what? 8 years now? And really doesn't have much to show for something being in development for 8 years and the amount of funding they have been given from their bundles and such.
Yeah somethings are being done right, but what took so long? Where did all that money go? Cuz right now it looks like it's only been in development for 1-2 years. Doesn't look any different from anything else that's been thrown out, and died on arrival like New World(or other "NEXT BIG MMO"s).
The difference between Star Citizen and AoC. SC has Chris Roberts. A KNOWN developer who treats his games as passion projects and is KNOWN to keep pushing the limits. Freelancer was gonna have almost all the features of SC, and microsoft had to rush and threaten Roberts to release.
Stevens is a known MLM shill, and known to be part of scams. He's not trustworthy at all.
I'm not defending SC cuz it's scummy too, but at least has something to show. AoC really doesn't show 8 years worth of development with that kind of budget.
no one that has played wow for the past 20 years is going to switch over to AoC. Im sorry its just never going to happen. WoW players will go to their graave playing WoW.
Yes I absolutely love the story. Read all books up to Cata. and WoW Vanilla-WotlK is absolutely bis. can‘t see AoC creating a more immersive world
@@bohne8746 kids kids kids... don't let your own bias taint your thought processes for that of others... "What we wish, we readily believe, and what we ourselves think, we imagine others think also." - Julius Caesar
@@teluspiratedoesn’t change the fact most players won’t ever main another game.
Ashes is wow killer, play it before you talk on the matter? Fresh classic is all wow has, retail is hot trash, and the devs are incapable of creating anything new. Peep sod. Change my mind
I have.. literally played wow for 19 years and swapped to the ALPHA and it’s better lol ya clown.
Im tired of early access this early that beta this beta that. Ill play the game when it comes out. Absolutely ridiculous the game has taken over 10 years to create. Sure, they needed money to keep going, but 10 years in technology is a long ass time. 10 years go by and their game is immediately out dated. They probbaly have to do a refresh on the engine that runs the game once a year since stuff is always improving
Meh .. it's just another generic MMO overhyped and taking way too long to deliver.
I don't think AoC will even make a dent in the landscape but I don't think for a second that it's a scam. It kind of hits the same space as Star Citizen: Scummy funding, gouging the believers, endless delays coupled with endless feature creep, but development leadership that absolutely believe in what they're doing.
I will say that no matter what future product your talking about, if the developers stop believing the sales pitch it becomes a scam.
what you said was ok to say a year ago, not now when you can actually play it and its being updated , and very soon we will get much bigger updates , most of people play it are having fun
well i see that they shipped like 1/10th of a whole map? I'm quite certain that other map is not and will not be ready on release which will be like in 2 years?
Hate to be a doomer...this looks terrible for the resources that have put in. Maybe I just hate the unreal engine look...but it feels so generic. So boring. WoW gives you more artistic diversity in the first 5 minutes upon logging in for the first time.
This feels like a game targeted at MMO players...which is fine....but it will never kill WoW if its purely horizontal in nature.
Bloat is killer for these studios. They promise way too much...and then deliver on 50% of it.
Bias confirmed
Artistic diversity😂
new Sub here ;) , i want to add my 2 cent on your video , yes Game is in production for 7 years but count realisticly 3 years Real Production as you cant see the First 4 years are Post Production , getting the Staff location etc.. etc ... About your Shop info , nobody force anyone to buy cosmetic pack as Steven said it many times what ever you can buy in the shop can be found in the game , Same as funding of the game he said it also many many Times dont purchase the Alpha if you think it is a Game wait until game is released as i fund the game with my Own money . i see people people complaining bout beeing a scam as there is not a lot done in the 7 years , nobody knows what they have been doin behind the scene maybe other biomes are rdy either way it is all wait and see as Alpha 2 is all about Networking , and again i say it to the people Watching your video DO NOT PURCHASE THE ALPHA unless you rdy to get into a bugged Game with here and there Server wipe .. and are ready to report bugs ...
Great video @ebonhardt
No i will advice to go over too Path of exile 2 GGG devs remind me of old blizzard and fromsoftware. Ashes just looks to mid to be ever great imo.
I agree PoE 2 is looking elite
PoE2 is going to be the MMO that stays around for the next 25 years. Shit is sooooooooooo fire
PoE2 is MMORPG or just a top down ARPG ?
bah..more talking head nonscence
Please go back to your wow.
Ashes is such a scam. Just list every promise the developer has made since AoC's inception and Kickstarter and see how many have been fulfilled. People are huffing pure copium when they can't look at the facts.
This fanboy is just dumb! Cant see it!
Steven was miss using company funds an is still miss using funds that's why he's trying to cash grab for this alpha. Not to mention he's got hundreds of thousands in taxes to pay the irs
Even when he played ArcheAge he was a scammer ingame ... what do u think he's doing rn
idk why but ashes looks so bad, the lighting is awful, the animations look janky, the character models are appalling, the UI looks gross, and a lot of the gameplay mechanics sound super unfun or only for sweats and incels. i hope it is all these things and the sweats and incels will flock to it and leave good games so we can stop seeing them farm for attention in worldchat
its almost like the game is in alpha, are you pretending to be retarded or are you actually brain damaged?
the mechanics are the least of your worries, steven shariff made his money by scamming grandmas
I 100% agree with you on Lighting, Animations and Character models, I am just hoping it gets fixed/polished once the base game systems are built and ready.
I have seen some leaks of lighting updates and they look good, finally makes us feel it’s really a Unreal 5 game, lol 😅
steven is a scammer thats how he made all his money. i don't support scammers.
This game wont be coming out anytime soon, just like star citizen, going to be s for ever project
Schrödinger's game
WoW is old garbage.
Yeah, looks like a scam. I would have already paid for a key if PvP was optional. But no, they are going to force everyone to play with all the gankers!
lol its not a scam, you're just a coward
That is jut you being a pussy..
dead on arrival
Scam.
REALITY CHECK ---------------------------------------------- ITS A SCAM