Nice job. No music, no talking over the top, no revving the nuts off it when it's cold. Sensible and enjoyable. Just to listen to it warming up is a great start to the day.
Detroit Diesel engine 71 or 92 series It's always has been music to my ears No computer plastic ceramic or another garbage need it at the time Thanks for posting this video God bless You all
@@GuyBetten you got it..all the way…i saw a 8V92T pulling a D10 up a seemingly endless steep hill in Alberta Canada in the 80’s once…..screeeeeeeeaamin…if that was a modern day truck the engine warning light would have come on and it would have stayed on!
I had to deliver a 978 about 150 miles one time and we were short on time. It was the old 4 speed models so at 60 mph I was in the redline. Sarge said put the foot down so I did. I drove about 4 hours in the redline and it took it like a champ
Perfect perfect vid! I hate when a Cold Start vid (Or any start for that matter) is only a minute.....yours is over 7 and goes thru the whole cycle.....AWESOME JOB DUDE! Old School Diesels Rock and so does all of their Smoke! What a Beauty! Thanks for not cutting it off after a min!
Put a hair dryer or heat gun into the intake, preferably without the filter. starts a lot faster. Propane torches or weed burners work too. Heat up the manifold on the outside first, then stick the torch in the intake and start cranking
Look people! He didn't smoke the starter! And he didn't have to rev the fuck out of it when it started! Learn from this guy. On a how too start a diesel.
I’ve started many an old school mechanical diesel the exact same way. Crank it a couple seconds , stop a couple, crank it again, stop , crank nail you build a little heat in the cylinders then when you have just enough it starts and you don’t overheat the starter. Looks like it was at least 20 degrees F or less
Reminds me of when I was driving a tow truck part time and had to bring it home with me over night. Winter time, and I had to plug in the block heater. I did, and went to bed. Got up at like 3AM for the first call and the block heater blew the fuse, and was colder than a witch's tit. Took about 20 minutes of fiddling around before I was on the road.
When I drove school buses, we had an old international cab over bud we’d use as the spare bus. I came to the yard and someone used my bus for an after school run and damaged my crossing arm so off to the international I went. Thing took like 5 minutes to start but when it did, the damn smile on my face hearing this engine roar made me always want to take that bus 😂
Good Job: Not that my opinion matters, but so many people rev. them as soon as they don't need the starter anymore. Cold thick Deisel oil? Even if Oil Press. is showing, Oil is not everywhere. & Nothing has expanded yet. Wheel holders don't get it.
I drove V12s for years always carried ethier! And sprayed before even trying to start that monster! Watching this video brought lots of memories, l could almost smell the diesel in the morning air in Oregon!
With a Detroit , the 8 second rule works wonders. Crank the engine for 8 seconds , allow it to sit for 8 seconds . It does not overheat the starter, does not drain the batteries to quickly and acts as a pre heat. I had a 8V92 Silver in a 79 COE PETERBILT. I miss that Truck.
Yeah but some go crazy on the Detroit more than eight seconds they sit there and cook the thing for about 30 seconds at a time LOL I've seen them cold start these
Hi.....a shot of either, would do the trick. Shoot a spray, into a rag, place under air cleaner.....away you go. Or, shoot it out passenger window, while cranking it with your left foot. Used to drive one of these Generals, in 1983, it had an 8v92 silver. Pulled like crazy, in the oilfields. From Alberta Canada. Good day, Mr Betten. NO betting on the weather, i guess. ha ha
In the 1970s, I used to drive a Commer two-stroke lorry (a TS3) in the UK, it was always a pig to start in cold weather. I used to take the top off of the air filter, light a piece of newspaper and drop it in, then run around and turn the key - believe it or not, it used to start really well with that proceedure.
Sounds like the official startup procedure on a Field Marshall! (sans the blank shotshell) Detroit had an "arctic start" package that included a burner that mounted in the air intake. Just a nozzle spraying diesel and a spark plug really. I think there are a couple other manufacturers that did similar, including an electric version.
2:31 The old girl is awake and ready for action :D I have 3 first gen dodge cummins in my hauling business and soon am looking to add a couple of these old Detroits to it for hauling some heavier stuff. Old diesels never die, they just sleep in between jobs. Thanks for filming this :)
Brings back memories... Drove MC7s and MC9s for about 4 years back in the mid 1980s...all had 6V71NAs. Flatland Motorcoaches. 315 miles from Bloomington IL to O'Hare and back. Usually had a few hours layover and just let them idle and catch a few Z's after lunch... soundest sleep I can remember was being sang a lullaby performed by the Detroit Diesel Municipal Orchestra! Miss those days and nights, never a breakdown in close to a million miles! Thanks for the Memories! Bruno Biava ⚓
Good to see not being an animal with the starter motor. What brand of battery or was it a mains powercharger driving the starter? How would an air start have coped?
What's the ambient temperature? Glad you didn't use any ether, a lot of people seem quick to turn to the ether to get these old diesels going. But surely there is some consequence over time.
Yeah they become what's known as ether dependent It's like a drug they get a sniff of that crack and they wanted every single time. So many of those older ones would come dependent on it I had a shiny 290 that was like that when I bought it years ago the guy he threw the piss out of it constantly and that was the only way you could get it started it needed that crack.
A lot of it has to do with how well the engine has been maintained. If the oil is high quality and the valves and injectors are set right, Detroits are not clattery and rattly messes. Someone showed this engine some love.
General Bill been dirving for awehile before having to stop due to health. biut the 12v and 8v were before my time. correct me if im wrong , does say the 8 mean 8 cylinder and 71 mean each cyl is 71 cubic inches?
@@yamahonkawazuki Yes, : 453 is 4 cyl 53 cub inches. 671 6 cyl 71 cub inches 6v92 8vanything....12v etc 16v92 (two 8v92 blocks, together) 24v92 etc..... UNLIKE TODAY, all engine makers' numbers, don't add up to a steep hill of beans......computercrap, belongs, ON YOUR TABLE / DESK / in thee office. NOT IN WINTRY CONDITIONS, IN THE MOUNTAINS, ON THE PRAIRIES.....(neither at Wollaston Lake, Saskatchewan, where i used to haul sulphuric acid, to uranium mines, with western star, 290 cummins 13 Fuller RTO....
The battery in that truck is a bloody beauty 😄
Nice job. No music, no talking over the top, no revving the nuts off it when it's cold. Sensible and enjoyable. Just to listen to it warming up is a great start to the day.
You’d love the zip ties and bias ply’s channel
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Detroit Diesel engine 71 or 92 series It's always has been music to my ears No computer plastic ceramic or another garbage need it at the time Thanks for posting this video God bless You all
92!
@@GuyBetten you got it..all the way…i saw a 8V92T pulling a D10 up a seemingly endless steep hill in Alberta Canada in the 80’s once…..screeeeeeeeaamin…if that was a modern day truck the engine warning light would have come on and it would have stayed on!
I have a HEMTT 977 with an 8v92 in it and when its cold I give it just a tiny wiff of ether and she fires up immediately! Gotta love the Detroits!
I had to deliver a 978 about 150 miles one time and we were short on time. It was the old 4 speed models so at 60 mph I was in the redline. Sarge said put the foot down so I did. I drove about 4 hours in the redline and it took it like a champ
Perfect perfect vid! I hate when a Cold Start vid (Or any start for that matter) is only a minute.....yours is over 7 and goes thru the whole cycle.....AWESOME JOB DUDE! Old School Diesels Rock and so does all of their Smoke! What a Beauty! Thanks for not cutting it off after a min!
I love that sound of the engine, we have an old GMC farm truck, spreading natures blend, its got an old 8v71 two stroke detroit in it
Put a hair dryer or heat gun into the intake, preferably without the filter. starts a lot faster. Propane torches or weed burners work too. Heat up the manifold on the outside first, then stick the torch in the intake and start cranking
Look people! He didn't smoke the starter! And he didn't have to rev the fuck out of it when it started! Learn from this guy. On a how too start a diesel.
only modern grown-up kids, '' rev them up '' after starting. With no knowledge, of the physics behind HOW a diesel, operates. oh well......
Sweet sound in the morning with a cup of coffee. Thanks for sharing. 🐸
Tree huger"s had tears in their eyes for sure lol.
Well Done....one of my favorite Cold Start Vids to watch....I enjoy how long it is instead of a min like most out there
I agree!
I’ve started many an old school mechanical diesel the exact same way. Crank it a couple seconds , stop a couple, crank it again, stop , crank nail you build a little heat in the cylinders then when you have just enough it starts and you don’t overheat the starter. Looks like it was at least 20 degrees F or less
yes, so much faster than continuity cranking.
No start like a diesel cold start !
That ticking like sound is an exhaust leak at the manifold. I had one for years on mine at the no. 6 cyl.
No music, nice. #attaboy
Pure and simple. That's what a cold start video should be. No great big long drawn out face flappin' preamble. Great video! :)
Noo noo but thats what everyone looveesss thats what you do everyvideo everytime 😄 lol
This diesel fuel shortage is 100 pct our government doing it
Reminds me of when I was driving a tow truck part time and had to bring it home with me over night. Winter time, and I had to plug in the block heater. I did, and went to bed. Got up at like 3AM for the first call and the block heater blew the fuse, and was colder than a witch's tit. Took about 20 minutes of fiddling around before I was on the road.
Blowing hot air into the air intake can help.
What's for breakfast dear? Eggs and diesel, bacon cooked with diesel, and diesel coffee...The neighbor started his truck again...
When I drove school buses, we had an old international cab over bud we’d use as the spare bus. I came to the yard and someone used my bus for an after school run and damaged my crossing arm so off to the international I went. Thing took like 5 minutes to start but when it did, the damn smile on my face hearing this engine roar made me always want to take that bus 😂
Good Job: Not that my opinion matters, but
so many people rev. them as soon as they don't need the starter anymore. Cold thick Deisel oil?
Even if Oil Press. is showing, Oil is not everywhere. & Nothing has expanded yet. Wheel holders don't get it.
I drove V12s for years always carried ethier! And sprayed before even trying to start that monster! Watching this video brought lots of memories, l could almost smell the diesel in the morning air in Oregon!
Always spray WHILE cranking! Otherwise engine might lock up or cause engine damage.
@@williamgibb5557 при морозах до -25 если топливо зимнее, ничего не будет, проще факел использовать
Just glad to hear someone take care of there starter instead of just cranking for 2 minutes
Yeah thats right!
With a Detroit , the 8 second rule works wonders. Crank the engine for 8 seconds , allow it to sit for 8 seconds . It does not overheat the starter, does not drain the batteries to quickly and acts as a pre heat. I had a 8V92 Silver in a 79 COE PETERBILT. I miss that Truck.
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Yeah but some go crazy on the Detroit more than eight seconds they sit there and cook the thing for about 30 seconds at a time LOL I've seen them cold start these
Sounds great do you use the truck alot. Don't want to see an old truck just sitting around rotting away it seems to have value.
It is sitting inside a barn for the winter. I have a 8V92 for it.
Hi.....a shot of either, would do the trick. Shoot a spray, into a rag, place under air cleaner.....away you go. Or, shoot it out passenger window, while cranking it with your left foot. Used to drive one of these Generals, in 1983, it had an 8v92 silver. Pulled like crazy, in the oilfields. From Alberta Canada. Good day, Mr Betten. NO betting on the weather, i guess. ha ha
Spraycan Turbo.
In the 1970s, I used to drive a Commer two-stroke lorry (a TS3) in the UK, it was always a pig to start in cold weather.
I used to take the top off of the air filter, light a piece of newspaper and drop it in, then run around and turn the key - believe it or not, it used to start really well with that proceedure.
Sounds like the official startup procedure on a Field Marshall! (sans the blank shotshell) Detroit had an "arctic start" package that included a burner that mounted in the air intake. Just a nozzle spraying diesel and a spark plug really. I think there are a couple other manufacturers that did similar, including an electric version.
It absolutely sounds awesome 👍and probably one of the best cold start videos I've seen too lol.
2:31 The old girl is awake and ready for action :D I have 3 first gen dodge cummins in my hauling business and soon am looking to add a couple of these old Detroits to it for hauling some heavier stuff. Old diesels never die, they just sleep in between jobs. Thanks for filming this :)
One hell of a battery
They had at least 2. Often 4 batteries.
You gotta puter in ketchup as soon as they fire.
Oh that hunt when it fired up
right before she lit, shes complaining. awwwww man i was enjoying my nap, cmon nowwwwww
She did a ton less hunting then I would have thought. A few rolls.. and she settled right down. Good running engine
Governor buffer must be set exactly to spec for it only to hunt 3 or 4 times. Nicely done!
Brings back memories...
Drove MC7s and MC9s for about 4 years back in the mid 1980s...all had 6V71NAs. Flatland Motorcoaches. 315 miles from Bloomington IL to O'Hare and back.
Usually had a few hours layover and just let them idle and catch a few Z's after lunch... soundest sleep I can remember was being sang a lullaby performed by the Detroit Diesel Municipal Orchestra!
Miss those days and nights, never a breakdown in close to a million miles!
Thanks for the Memories!
Bruno Biava ⚓
This was immensely satisfying. 👍
Great old 5 Star General!
Those are some long lasting batteries & starter; that's for sure.
Definitely cold
He just wanted to sleep dammit, and here's this guy rudely waking him up. ;)
Just a whisp of starting fluid would have saved a lot of wear and tear on the starter
Yeah but that also would have glazed the cylinder walls. That stuff's like crack to a truck. Once you start using it you always have to.
Good to see not being an animal with the starter motor. What brand of battery or was it a mains powercharger driving the starter? How would an air start have coped?
Отличное видео! Спасибо !
Luckily you didn’t kill the battery. Try ether next time. Your starter will love you for it.
....used to call the, ' michigan maytags ''
Now I'm ready to work !
That poor starter, put a block heater on that thing, and run it for a few hours before giving it a start!
И сколько же градусов в это время было на улице?
It didn’t hunt very much did it, settled right down.
nice sound it took a awhile to turn over what is the temp there?
Ruth Ann Doyle it was 19 degrees out on that morning.
How long will that starter go? Or are they pretty heavy duty?
those detroits are just *chefs kiss* perfect
Let the engine "read a newspaper"! This is torture.
What's the ambient temperature?
Glad you didn't use any ether, a lot of people seem quick to turn to the ether to get these old diesels going. But surely there is some consequence over time.
Yeah they become what's known as ether dependent
It's like a drug they get a sniff of that crack and they wanted every single time.
So many of those older ones would come dependent on it I had a shiny 290 that was like that when I bought it years ago the guy he threw the piss out of it constantly and that was the only way you could get it started it needed that crack.
I like those coldstarts. Are you Crank in sneakers?:)
Let me never go out, i will work 😅
2:32 WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DAMN SHE'S ALIVEEEEEEE!!!!!! 💪
did a ton of those back in the day
8V71?
Nice little video.👍👍
All ways a a 45 second crank
She was a cranky one that morning 🤣
At the time you called started that how long was it sitting it didn't look like the block was plugged in either
Detroit 60 series 💪
EURO 6.🤣
seems a bit quiet for a 2 stroke Detroit, but still nice
A lot of it has to do with how well the engine has been maintained. If the oil is high quality and the valves and injectors are set right, Detroits are not clattery and rattly messes. Someone showed this engine some love.
Perfect
DD90
It needs some ether
A bitch to start sometimes, but when it does fire up, there is no stopping the Detroit!😏👍
Грета Тунберг откусила себе задницу... 😆
А вообще-то чтобы не мучить аккумулятор полезно прикрыть впускной патрубок, пока не начнет заводиться...
Same sound as the marine engines!! lots of oil leaking but they bring you home!!
Good ol detroit jus dont lug m or it will run backwards
Oh run like it's in a GM V drive bus ?? 🤣🤣
Sounds just like a goddamn locomotive, hell yeah gotta love it!
use hair dryier to make warm air i engine and start engine
8v71?
Logan Zister Yes sir!
General Bill been dirving for awehile before having to stop due to health. biut the 12v and 8v were before my time. correct me if im wrong , does say the 8 mean 8 cylinder and 71 mean each cyl is 71 cubic inches?
@@yamahonkawazuki yep
@@yamahonkawazuki Yes, : 453 is 4 cyl 53 cub inches. 671 6 cyl 71 cub inches 6v92 8vanything....12v etc 16v92 (two 8v92 blocks, together) 24v92 etc..... UNLIKE TODAY, all engine makers' numbers, don't add up to a steep hill of beans......computercrap, belongs, ON YOUR TABLE / DESK / in thee office. NOT IN WINTRY CONDITIONS, IN THE MOUNTAINS, ON THE PRAIRIES.....(neither at Wollaston Lake, Saskatchewan, where i used to haul sulphuric acid, to uranium mines, with western star, 290 cummins 13 Fuller RTO....
? Yamaha, or Suzuki ? used to have a Honda Elsinore, 250 in '76.
Some idiot would say that needs a Cummins swap.
AHHH 238 music...after the third hunt you can hear it will stay running......now let it perk fer a bit.
I think the OP said it's a 318
@@hoost3056 Ohh. Ok. It could be. Either way they make their own music.
Пол жизни у пихла отнял☹️
Beautiful
Ο άσπρος καπνός γιατί δεν σταματάει?
She didn't put up too much of fight, sounds good
Joseph
Next time film it from the inside man! What do you normally do with the throttle?
By the color and density of the smoke when he is cranking, it is getting full throttle.
Somebody took care of her, it runs better than most I've seen.
Nothing. A diesel is at full fuel automatically when starting.
She sounds good 👍👍
I can hear an exhaust leak tho. Not bad
как фашисты под москвой в 41-м
Do you want to seller?
Nice sounding Jimmy.
scdevon ty! This is a tired 8v71,,soon replacing with a 8v92!
Flatbed Bill Many would argue that the 71 Series were better engines than the 92s.
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Maybe if you let the glow plugs cycle properly it wouldn't be so hard to start
I dont think 2 stroke Detroits have glow plugs.
That is correct. If it is any colder than about 20 above, you had to use ether, or a torch in the intake. Just not both at the same time…
@@Art_Thompson
Both at the same time could prove to exciting!! 😳🔥
@@Art_Thompson why not? Then you'd have ignition!
Washington State?
сто тысяч ресурса двигателя вылетело в трубу при пуске
A rare & beautiful General, wooooooow! 👍👍👍😁😁
Damn don’t know nothing about what your doing good ball