Thank you. I'm about to join Warp to Me for some Incursions and this is exactly the Information I've been needing. Oh, just realized how old this video is.
Most of the information is still decently informative. Some of the basic ships have changed, and off grid boosters are no longer a thing, but otherwise it's almost entirely the same.
SovereignEnterpriseEVE I've done many Incursions now and I must say, Thank you for the videos again. Thanks to your videos I was able to jump right into the Incursions already knowing all of the information that I needed and I settled into it quicker than I thought I would. I also had a blast doing it.
+SovereignEnterpriseEVE I don't know why, but I was always attracted to the vindi and had been training the remaining skills I had left on it. As I started Gallente I maxed armor skills and drone skills, then maxing hybrids and getting good-enough-for teir-II shield skills. Does that sound good?
+Sethuscus If anything I'd do hybrids to a decent level, say 3 or 4, then work on shields and back to hybrids. Large hybrid 5 is a LONG train, and while super awesome for the Vindi for that void/null hype, meta4 guns are good enough.
for minmatar T1 BS you want a Maelstrom as a sniper ship. missile boats usually suck because of the flight time mechanic, the missile boat runs as a DPS ship and has to be face punching the rats, plus ideally shooting the target+1 rat on the (numbered) target list to get its damaged applied
I've felt for many years that EVE needs full blown Incursions. Where pirate factions break down Concord in high sec, and Concord then pays players to help restore high sec status.
That would be cool but it would affect the commerce in the game a lot probably. Mind you i have never been a space trucker so who am i to say this O.o.
@@sovereignenterpriseeve4839 what are some other Important Public channels players should know about? the most valuable thing you said in the entire video was how to join Incursion Public
Drifter Incursions can be done, you just need a huge fleet to do them in cheap ships and a lot ships to replace them. I heard they had insane amounts of money.
Excellent vid! I am planning on sending my alt in to run incursions as he's not worth wardeccing. And thinking of training him to logi first might be the way to go.
What kinda isk/hr is this? I get 50-100 hr lazy ratting in null. Doing exploration I average maybe 100/hr, its hit and miss, might get 40 mil in and hour might get 400
Right around 80-120 mil/hr over the long run. What I like about it compared to being in nullsec is the ease of it, once you get in the groove of things it's very lowkey, and more importantly safe and near uninterruptible. If you're in a big block alliance you probably don't have to dock up very often because of hostiles, but it does happen. And like you said, explo is fairly random, and does come with its own risks.
I'm an armor guy myself, I like not having to worry about capacitor running my resistances ( My nightmare runs 4 heat syncs even with armor 3 sebos 3 TCs and a target painter :P ) If you wanna try out armor, The Ditanian fleet is the group to run with, real friendly bunch.
Vanguard shield fleet, don't remember site name. I got neuted out in my nightmare, survived but cap chain failed to buddy in his nightmare. Buddy got primaried and neuted immediately after and didn't have cap to run his shield resistance. Freaked out a bit. I pulled my drones after the third swear from logi and put my logi drones on him. We almost kept him out of structure entirely, but everyone was pretty freaked out. You have a good point here.
When I do run vanguards with my NM I have the cap skills and support skills that I can keep pounding away with pulses for an hour or so before I need to cap up, so in my spare highs I run 1 large remote armor rep and a large energy transfer for those unexpected moments of a hardswap or a heavy tama wave.
Pith-A-type invul 46.9% when active, Any A-type EANM 28.3% (before armor compensations)and 35.4% with armor compensations all at 5 without any need to activate or use of cap. I CAN see the allure of using shields, but that leaves MUCH less room for utility mid-slots, Vindicators I run with have 2-3 stasis webs and still push an insane raw DPS. Those stasis webs are much valued. I am not saying shield or armor is superior to the other, they are different and has to be approached with different mindsets, Although I do have to say shields are a bit riskier due to the active nature of the tanks used.
+Brice Johnson nestors are used on some armor fleets BUT a lot of gankers will be tempted to down them, a logi cruiser is more cost efficient and a better option; sentry could only be used on tower bashes since you are supposed to assign your drones to the drone bunny, usually a ship that has lots of tracking links; also since you move a lot using heavies against the towers is usually adviced cos sentries will cost time to recover and slow the whole fleet thus isk per hour
+Brice Johnson As mentioned by the other guy, Nestor does armor reps, I haven't flown in an armor fleet so I don't know how they work. Sentry drones aren't used in any HQ sites because you're always moving somewhere else, and burning back to your drones to scoop them is just completely unfeasible.
After researching a bit and watching this video i've decided i wanna do incursions, but the problem is i only have like 20mil ISK and a PvE fitted Hurricane. How can i get the money for a maelstrom or something to start doing incursions?
+Coco Nut (coconut4808) Exploration, level 3 missions, faction warfare, C1/C2 wormhole daytrips are all possibilities. I'm not too familiar with how to make isk at the start of the game however, I did all of that a long time ago.
+SovereignEnterpriseEVE The one that seems more profitable is Faction Warfare, although i think i'm gonna try all of these and see for myself, thanks mate!
We have ~30 people all shooting the same target most of the time. Things die pretty fast, and if you're shooting missiles, sometimes the target will die while your missiles are in flight, which contributes to lost DPS. This doesn't happen often, and if you really pay attention you can minimize that. But the fact of the matter is, it DOES happen, and whatever your paper DPS is, your actual will always be lower than that.
Can someone confirm that incursions will never lower your standing because we fight pirate faction npc; unlike with warfare - we fight other players who choose to play other faction, so killing them will make my standing lower? also as warfare is a pvp, so i likely lose ship and get pod killed (lose implants). P.S.: I never done incursions or warfare before, so want to know the consequences.
So your standings are by faction, so your faction standings go down with the factions you work against, and up with those you work for. You probably don't care about faction standings with Sancha Nation, I know I don't care about standings with anyone that doesn't control gate guns. The incursions he is talking about are in hi-sec and you are always in pvp in eve, but this is the least pvp space, so your implants and ship are fine more often than not.
+papzed Shoot for Caldari/Amarr BS 3, Large Laser turret 3, gunnery/shield skills to at least 3, and whatever is required to fit T2 Invulns, damage control, and heat sinks. Long as you have 80%ish resists across the board and 100k EHP you should be fine.
awsome mate thanks and cheers :) been woundering about this a long time now. keep up the good work and thank you again :). once i get my skils ill look into it. more. biggest issue i have is the fact that everyone treats you like a spie. and so many gankers out nowadays it aint funny
+krazywulf1983 In corporations, yeah. Not so much in incursion groups. We bring in brand new people all the time, no worries about them being spies, it doesn't happen very often or at all. Gankers can be a problem, but just don't autopilot your ship and try to avoid the major bottleneck systems.
ok awsome thanks mate. will have to give them a try soon as i get the skills. i have a pvp char but hes not making much isk so i staretd new one for hiughsec incursions. been trying to find info awhile now. sorry i could bable all day hehe
+krazywulf1983 Nah, it's not that bad at all. The largest fleet you would ever be in is for the Kundalini, but there's only one of those per incursion focus, compared to the hundreds of other sites that are run at the focus before that. I have a PC that was built in 2010, and I can run it max settings at 30 fps no problem.
SovereignEnterpriseEVE hehe awsome to her. hopping to build a budget celerion sadly would love to get a i3. im running an acnent overheating pc from 2004 i think single core lmao. im hopping to have new pc by time i get skills for bs :). thanks mate and cheers hopefully see you around in game :)
[Rokh, Rokh Cal BS: 4] Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Large Cap Battery II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II EM Ward Amplifier II Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script 500MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Core Defense Field Extender I Large Core Defense Field Extender I Warrior II x10 Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L x15581 Caldari Navy Tungsten Charge L x8712 Optimal Range Script x1 Tracking Speed Script x1 Follows the standard for all battleships in incursions: DCU+2x Invulns+EM ward amp+tank rigs, then fill rest with DPS+application+mwd. It's worth noting that the hyperion is a MUCH better blaster boat, I would only use the rokh if you already have the ship and are dirt poor, cause otherwise a hyperion is probably a 2 day train at most, and still better even with battleship 1 because then you're training skills which apply to a vindicator, the master of incursions.
[Nightmare, Malachai's Revenge] Damage Control II True Sansha Heat Sink True Sansha Heat Sink True Sansha Heat Sink True Sansha Heat Sink True Sansha Capacitor Power Relay Pithum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field Cap Recharger II Gist X-Type 100MN Afterburner Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script Pithum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Small Tractor Beam II Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Large Remote Capacitor Transmitter II Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Large Core Defense Field Extender II Large Core Defense Field Extender II Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II Ogre II x1 Hammerhead II x5 Imperial Navy Multifrequency L x9 Imperial Navy Gamma L x4 Gleam L x3 Imperial Navy Xray L x4 Imperial Navy Ultraviolet L x4 It's bad though, if you rock B or A types you should swap the rigs out for a burst aerator. I was lazy and never replaced the 100 mil CDFE's, plus I usually used it while FC'ing because it's less micro intensive than a vindicator, but not flat out bad like a machariel, and having the extra tank was useful in not dying while paying attention to other things.
I tried to kill a *ECM ship* FIRST but, it gets *healed* by its *Healer Friend* . :O I also tried to kill a *HEALER Ship* FIRST, but I get *jammed* by it's *ECM Friend* . :O Here's the annoying end result. ruclips.net/video/h9aiNC2xg7w/видео.html
Yes, no battleships, no T2 modules, no large weapons. Completely impossible to do it. But I mean, incursions are some of the most end-game PVE content in the game beyond maybe burner missions, so it's not entirely unreasonable.
my first incursion video watched on youtube! thanks for giving us such a great ones! looking forward to join one of the fleets!!! skill-queue started!
+Wss 5112 Excellent! That's why I made the video too, I started running them just a few weeks ago and was disappointed that there weren't any.
Thank you. I'm about to join Warp to Me for some Incursions and this is exactly the Information I've been needing. Oh, just realized how old this video is.
Most of the information is still decently informative. Some of the basic ships have changed, and off grid boosters are no longer a thing, but otherwise it's almost entirely the same.
SovereignEnterpriseEVE I've done many Incursions now and I must say, Thank you for the videos again. Thanks to your videos I was able to jump right into the Incursions already knowing all of the information that I needed and I settled into it quicker than I thought I would. I also had a blast doing it.
Thank you. Very nice videos. I feel better prepared to eventually do my first incursion
+menio Awesome! That's exactly what I was going for, I'm glad it worked.
+SovereignEnterpriseEVE I don't know why, but I was always attracted to the vindi and had been training the remaining skills I had left on it. As I started Gallente I maxed armor skills and drone skills, then maxing hybrids and getting good-enough-for teir-II shield skills. Does that sound good?
+Sethuscus If anything I'd do hybrids to a decent level, say 3 or 4, then work on shields and back to hybrids. Large hybrid 5 is a LONG train, and while super awesome for the Vindi for that void/null hype, meta4 guns are good enough.
for minmatar T1 BS you want a Maelstrom as a sniper ship. missile boats usually suck because of the flight time mechanic, the missile boat runs as a DPS ship and has to be face punching the rats, plus ideally shooting the target+1 rat on the (numbered) target list to get its damaged applied
I've felt for many years that EVE needs full blown Incursions. Where pirate factions break down Concord in high sec, and Concord then pays players to help restore high sec status.
That would be cool but it would affect the commerce in the game a lot probably. Mind you i have never been a space trucker so who am i to say this O.o.
Can anyone tell me if something changed about incursions since this video?
Some basic things changed regarding boosters (which you don't have to worry about anyway), but by and large it's accurate information.
@@sovereignenterpriseeve4839 what are some other Important Public channels players should know about? the most valuable thing you said in the entire video was how to join Incursion Public
Does no one run AHACs in these anymore? I remember making a dual-web Loki specifically for incursions.
Drifter Incursions can be done, you just need a huge fleet to do them in cheap ships and a lot ships to replace them. I heard they had insane amounts of money.
Excellent vid! I am planning on sending my alt in to run incursions as he's not worth wardeccing. And thinking of training him to logi first might be the way to go.
how do I get global report and stuff in my journal?
Thanks for a detailed video. Nice work.
What kinda isk/hr is this? I get 50-100 hr lazy ratting in null. Doing exploration I average maybe 100/hr, its hit and miss, might get 40 mil in and hour might get 400
Right around 80-120 mil/hr over the long run. What I like about it compared to being in nullsec is the ease of it, once you get in the groove of things it's very lowkey, and more importantly safe and near uninterruptible. If you're in a big block alliance you probably don't have to dock up very often because of hostiles, but it does happen. And like you said, explo is fairly random, and does come with its own risks.
Doesn't Sansha have EM and Thermal damage, why use Adaptive Invuls instead of damage specific types? Is it different in incursions?
Yes, incursions are different and the rats are balanced to have roughly omni damage. A good portion of the rat types use missiles for the kin/therm.
I'm an armor guy myself, I like not having to worry about capacitor running my resistances ( My nightmare runs 4 heat syncs even with armor 3 sebos 3 TCs and a target painter :P ) If you wanna try out armor, The Ditanian fleet is the group to run with, real friendly bunch.
Vanguard shield fleet, don't remember site name. I got neuted out in my nightmare, survived but cap chain failed to buddy in his nightmare. Buddy got primaried and neuted immediately after and didn't have cap to run his shield resistance. Freaked out a bit. I pulled my drones after the third swear from logi and put my logi drones on him. We almost kept him out of structure entirely, but everyone was pretty freaked out. You have a good point here.
When I do run vanguards with my NM I have the cap skills and support skills that I can keep pounding away with pulses for an hour or so before I need to cap up, so in my spare highs I run 1 large remote armor rep and a large energy transfer for those unexpected moments of a hardswap or a heavy tama wave.
But them pith A resist bonuses tho
Pith-A-type invul 46.9% when active, Any A-type EANM 28.3% (before armor compensations)and 35.4% with armor compensations all at 5 without any need to activate or use of cap. I CAN see the allure of using shields, but that leaves MUCH less room for utility mid-slots, Vindicators I run with have 2-3 stasis webs and still push an insane raw DPS. Those stasis webs are much valued.
I am not saying shield or armor is superior to the other, they are different and has to be approached with different mindsets, Although I do have to say shields are a bit riskier due to the active nature of the tanks used.
posted b4 watch all lol nice vid :)
@sovereignEnterpriseEVE
What about nestor as logi?
never mentioned sentry drones (that's 20% of DPS!!!)
+Brice Johnson nestors are used on some armor fleets BUT a lot of gankers will be tempted to down them, a logi cruiser is more cost efficient and a better option; sentry could only be used on tower bashes since you are supposed to assign your drones to the drone bunny, usually a ship that has lots of tracking links; also since you move a lot using heavies against the towers is usually adviced cos sentries will cost time to recover and slow the whole fleet thus isk per hour
+Brice Johnson As mentioned by the other guy, Nestor does armor reps, I haven't flown in an armor fleet so I don't know how they work. Sentry drones aren't used in any HQ sites because you're always moving somewhere else, and burning back to your drones to scoop them is just completely unfeasible.
Do you still get paid if your using Logi?
Yes, you do. Everyone who is in the site and in the fleet gets payout.
I only run logi for TVP/TDF and some fleet leads will give small bonuses if you're a hero logi.
No one runs vanguards now, but vanguards used the be the ones that everyone used to run when incursions came out.
I have an incursion community that does them daily with HQs and Assualts.
After researching a bit and watching this video i've decided i wanna do incursions, but the problem is i only have like 20mil ISK and a PvE fitted Hurricane.
How can i get the money for a maelstrom or something to start doing incursions?
+Coco Nut (coconut4808) Exploration, level 3 missions, faction warfare, C1/C2 wormhole daytrips are all possibilities. I'm not too familiar with how to make isk at the start of the game however, I did all of that a long time ago.
+SovereignEnterpriseEVE The one that seems more profitable is Faction Warfare, although i think i'm gonna try all of these and see for myself, thanks mate!
Faction warfare, defend sites, dont have to engage in pve or pvp, you can use an incredibly cheap ship and it doesnt at all matter if you die
+Vacremon 1234567890 Nah, i wanna risk more to win more
Thank you for the video
Could you explain WHY missiles are bad for incursions? Not disagreeing, just want to understand.
We have ~30 people all shooting the same target most of the time. Things die pretty fast, and if you're shooting missiles, sometimes the target will die while your missiles are in flight, which contributes to lost DPS. This doesn't happen often, and if you really pay attention you can minimize that. But the fact of the matter is, it DOES happen, and whatever your paper DPS is, your actual will always be lower than that.
Kinda the same reason why missiles are bad for long range fleet operations. The flight time just isn't worth it half the time.
Which is why the barghast is good because it has missile travel speed right. Never even considered that, thank you for the original comment and reply.
Yes, so not only does it have a missile projection bonus which helps tremendously with torps, but they also reach the target twice as fast.
Can someone confirm that incursions will never lower your standing because we fight pirate faction npc; unlike with warfare - we fight other players who choose to play other faction, so killing them will make my standing lower? also as warfare is a pvp, so i likely lose ship and get pod killed (lose implants). P.S.: I never done incursions or warfare before, so want to know the consequences.
So your standings are by faction, so your faction standings go down with the factions you work against, and up with those you work for. You probably don't care about faction standings with Sancha Nation, I know I don't care about standings with anyone that doesn't control gate guns. The incursions he is talking about are in hi-sec and you are always in pvp in eve, but this is the least pvp space, so your implants and ship are fine more often than not.
Lowers Sansha's Nation faction standings, which will hurt you if you ever want to run missions for them in catch/stain/etc (you probably never will.)
if Only the top 5 contributors to a site gets paid (this i read on EVE wiki). SO other players do incursions for free? or how is this ?
No, everyone in the fleet that contributes the most damage gets paid. So for HQ sites it's 40 people.
Do this still work?
Can someone give me a link for nightmare uncursion skill plan? and the lvl for core skills what lvl i need to have it ?
+papzed Shoot for Caldari/Amarr BS 3, Large Laser turret 3, gunnery/shield skills to at least 3, and whatever is required to fit T2 Invulns, damage control, and heat sinks. Long as you have 80%ish resists across the board and 100k EHP you should be fine.
SovereignEnterpriseEVE
thank you very much ! you have made very usefull videos.
awsome mate thanks and cheers :) been woundering about this a long time now. keep up the good work and thank you again :). once i get my skils ill look into it. more. biggest issue i have is the fact that everyone treats you like a spie. and so many gankers out nowadays it aint funny
+krazywulf1983 In corporations, yeah. Not so much in incursion groups. We bring in brand new people all the time, no worries about them being spies, it doesn't happen very often or at all. Gankers can be a problem, but just don't autopilot your ship and try to avoid the major bottleneck systems.
ok awsome thanks mate. will have to give them a try soon as i get the skills. i have a pvp char but hes not making much isk so i staretd new one for hiughsec incursions. been trying to find info awhile now. sorry i could bable all day hehe
+krazywulf1983 Nah, it's not that bad at all. The largest fleet you would ever be in is for the Kundalini, but there's only one of those per incursion focus, compared to the hundreds of other sites that are run at the focus before that. I have a PC that was built in 2010, and I can run it max settings at 30 fps no problem.
SovereignEnterpriseEVE hehe awsome to her. hopping to build a budget celerion sadly would love to get a i3. im running an acnent overheating pc from 2004 i think single core lmao. im hopping to have new pc by time i get skills for bs :). thanks mate and cheers hopefully see you around in game :)
+krazywulf1983 join Warp To Me Incursions, newbie pilots accepted just follow the rules and pilot a doctrine ship
can u show me a rokh fit with explanations for fits plz :)
[Rokh, Rokh Cal BS: 4]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Large Cap Battery II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
500MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L
Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L
Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L
Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L
Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L
Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L
Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L
Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Warrior II x10
Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L x15581
Caldari Navy Tungsten Charge L x8712
Optimal Range Script x1
Tracking Speed Script x1
Follows the standard for all battleships in incursions: DCU+2x Invulns+EM ward amp+tank rigs, then fill rest with DPS+application+mwd. It's worth noting that the hyperion is a MUCH better blaster boat, I would only use the rokh if you already have the ship and are dirt poor, cause otherwise a hyperion is probably a 2 day train at most, and still better even with battleship 1 because then you're training skills which apply to a vindicator, the master of incursions.
May I know the fit for your nightmare?
[Nightmare, Malachai's Revenge]
Damage Control II
True Sansha Heat Sink
True Sansha Heat Sink
True Sansha Heat Sink
True Sansha Heat Sink
True Sansha Capacitor Power Relay
Pithum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Cap Recharger II
Gist X-Type 100MN Afterburner
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script
Pithum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Small Tractor Beam II
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Large Remote Capacitor Transmitter II
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Large Core Defense Field Extender II
Large Core Defense Field Extender II
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Ogre II x1
Hammerhead II x5
Imperial Navy Multifrequency L x9
Imperial Navy Gamma L x4
Gleam L x3
Imperial Navy Xray L x4
Imperial Navy Ultraviolet L x4
It's bad though, if you rock B or A types you should swap the rigs out for a burst aerator. I was lazy and never replaced the 100 mil CDFE's, plus I usually used it while FC'ing because it's less micro intensive than a vindicator, but not flat out bad like a machariel, and having the extra tank was useful in not dying while paying attention to other things.
ECM ships have to get killed cos if they jam the logis the whole fleet might go down
Euck FCM!
I tried to kill a *ECM ship* FIRST but, it gets *healed* by its *Healer Friend* . :O
I also tried to kill a *HEALER Ship* FIRST, but I get *jammed* by it's *ECM Friend* . :O
Here's the annoying end result.
ruclips.net/video/h9aiNC2xg7w/видео.html
can you do a update video on incursion in 2018? fly safe o7
No. I don't fly incursions anymore, and almost nothing has changed since these were made.
@@sovereignenterpriseeve4839 what do you run instead? By the way, thanks for the video!
oh yeh right now we can use marauder because get buffed
damn an active non-assault damage control, that vid MUST be old. Still awesome nevertheless
So... long story short: Alphas cannot into Incursions because battleship is out of reach.
Yes, no battleships, no T2 modules, no large weapons. Completely impossible to do it. But I mean, incursions are some of the most end-game PVE content in the game beyond maybe burner missions, so it's not entirely unreasonable.
Dawid Dettlaff I heard null sec ratting is very, very profitable
Just do exploration if u have balls go with imicus without cloak in wh and do data and relic sites u can get 100mil isk its random
was interesting till i saw those digits, I solo same isk roaming a T1 cruiser around Faction Warfare space ...
Too bad bots are infesting FW space now.
you sound alot like danooct1 on youtube
shield fit nightmares suck. go armor fleet
+iamhole Uh k lol. No real difference between the two unless you want to sit in a Slave set.
+iamhole shield fit NMs rule! the preferred ship to be used as AAA/Meatshield!
Armor incursions are preaty dead after a year ... how do you feel now ?
Nereknu Vamnic except if you’re a Russian in which case the only choice is armor
You should have started this : Incursions, Not for New Players