A video so nice, he uploaded it twice! Jokes aside, this one is brilliant my friend! Loved it. Your voice is one of the most nuanced on this platform and much appreciated.
The fact that the basic building blocks of life have just recently been discovered on (of all places) an asteroid, pretty much signals that there's almost certainly a lot of unseen stuff going on out there. Looking at human history and the sad circularity of our non-development it's a relief that the universe is structured in such a way that we will also almost certainly never interact with another, vastly different, technological species.
Bro, McConaughey's initial leading man run fumbled with his overreliance on romcom roles after he struck gold with the Wedding Planner and it wasn't until The Lincoln Lawyer when he got critical respect back and had his God tier run that in fact ended with Interstellar. After that he did Naomi Watts is Ken Watanabe movie and things got weird. He even did a Harmony Korine movie and Steven Knight's strange thriller
The agnostic way is a perfect middle ground for all this. Accepting whatever "is" and moving on. Does it matter whether there is a god or not, or whether aliens are out there or here or nowhere? Best thing we can do as individuals is to increase our collective understanding of the universe.
Did you change the opening of the video? I watched when you uploaded it first time but i might have been doing dishes or something during the beginning, i didn't remember you talking about Jodie and Matt Mac so much lol 😂
This is a very engrossing video presentation, and I appreciate your insight and citations. The view of you walking on the beach to Jody Foster is priceless 😂😂, on the topic of belief my mind drifts to the work of Julian Barbour who speculates that the universe, its move to complexity is not a move to disorder, but versatility, that the simple monad is an undistinguished hum without the diversity provided by evolving cosmic principles.
"Where consciousness is concerned, you can't make the appearance/reality distinction. With consciousness, the appearance *is* the reality." - John Searle
@DamienWalter "needed"? I suspect he said it because he wanted to say it in order to correct some misconceptions about the possibility of a science of consciousness. We can have objective knowledge about pain, which is ontologically subjective. People make this fallacious move, they think ontologically subjective=epistemologically subjective.
I wish I was allowed by Money Daddy to share my spiritual journey, opening my mind to base-scale Infinities. Or my Wolfram Alpha tree-of-life derivatives.
Contact was one of those movies that could have been so much better. The ending was such a cliché. A build up that failed to deliver. This video essay is much more interesting and thought provoking than the movie ever was.
Well might be that that's the *only* fictional book he (and Ann) ever wrote...frankly I find it shocking how excellent it was given zero experience or training or practice
Wonderful video. Not sure why you would make expirience and believe as the same. Expirience does not require believe. It leaves interpretation open because it's subjective but it doesn't need to answer the question if it is or isn't imo.
Sagan also participated in the successful effort to suppress the works of Immanuel Velikovsky for reasons that seem way more in line with beliefs than anything else, setting back physics & cosmology 75 years and counting. Nobody's perfect, eh?
I never watched the movie. Contact is one of the few books that I never finished. Based on this video, I'm still not sure if I missed anything important.
Never read the book, but I've always been so frustrated with the movie. Yes, I appreciate how it addresses (kinda blatantly) matters of Belief, Proof, Faith (which requires no proof), Doubt, and Transcendent Experience. . . But outside of these arguments was the REALLY COOL scientific speculation of how aliens might go about making CONTACT with humans. It begins so damn strong with the sound of the signal, the image of the Swaztika, and the way the alien schematics needed to be put together. Shoot, even the early scene with Elli trying to radio out to anyone who might listen after her father dies. Really terrific ideas that make the mystery and intrigue of communicating with something genuinely ALIEN so alluring. . .all interwoven will almost Soap Opera-like melodrama, where people are unnaturally petty, unnaturally cool, or unnaturally passionate and paranoid, completely without human nuance, as if everyone is some caricature of what the worst of the 1990s imagined people to be. ("Arrival" was a better movie in keeping away from these stereotypes, and just letting the science/philosophy go and play. It didn't have the PUNCH that Contact had at its peak, but at least the people and their motivations were all believable.) Hopefully someone will correct that.
PS I'm also not one of those people who simply assumes that religious faith and science have to butt heads all the time. In fact, I think it's a FALSE dichotomy that's presented by very finite minds. Outside of the fact that just about every pre-Einstein mind who made significant contributions to the realms of mathematics and/or science had adhered to some kind of dogma or mysticism, particularly when it comes to aliens, my mom's old minister liked to write sci-fi on the side, and his own son went on to become one of the astrobiologists at NASA. So, uh. . .
A video so nice, he uploaded it twice! Jokes aside, this one is brilliant my friend! Loved it. Your voice is one of the most nuanced on this platform and much appreciated.
Note-to-Self : do not publish videos on Thursday mornings...let's see if it does better in prime-time
@@DamienWalter These also have a somewhat perennial nature. I still catch older works of yours in my recommended page.
"this is a story about a woman having an argument with her boyfriend"
Who is the only man "prettier than her"
Lololol😂
Also U said "douche canoe" 😂😂😂
the mysteries of this cosmos are not questions to be answered , but realities to be experienced
Loved the opening bit! Great essay!
Read the book before I saw the movie. Definitely recommend doing it that way.
Oh .. i hadnt thought of that. will look into the book :)
The fact that the basic building blocks of life have just recently been discovered on (of all places) an asteroid, pretty much signals that there's almost certainly a lot of unseen stuff going on out there. Looking at human history and the sad circularity of our non-development it's a relief that the universe is structured in such a way that we will also almost certainly never interact with another, vastly different, technological species.
Bro, McConaughey's initial leading man run fumbled with his overreliance on romcom roles after he struck gold with the Wedding Planner and it wasn't until The Lincoln Lawyer when he got critical respect back and had his God tier run that in fact ended with Interstellar. After that he did Naomi Watts is Ken Watanabe movie and things got weird. He even did a Harmony Korine movie and Steven Knight's strange thriller
read your comment, looked it up and now i'm watching lone star 👍
Interstellar sucked.
Holy cow! You're best video yet!
The agnostic way is a perfect middle ground for all this. Accepting whatever "is" and moving on. Does it matter whether there is a god or not, or whether aliens are out there or here or nowhere? Best thing we can do as individuals is to increase our collective understanding of the universe.
Did you change the opening of the video? I watched when you uploaded it first time but i might have been doing dishes or something during the beginning, i didn't remember you talking about Jodie and Matt Mac so much lol 😂
No. I talked about MattMc just as much.
For some reason when I think of early Jodie Foster the first thing that comes to mind is "Hotel New Hampshire".
This is a very engrossing video presentation, and I appreciate your insight and citations. The view of you walking on the beach to Jody Foster is priceless 😂😂, on the topic of belief my mind drifts to the work of Julian Barbour who speculates that the universe, its move to complexity is not a move to disorder, but versatility, that the simple monad is an undistinguished hum without the diversity provided by evolving cosmic principles.
"Where consciousness is concerned, you can't make the appearance/reality distinction. With consciousness, the appearance *is* the reality."
- John Searle
Then think about why he needed to say that.
@DamienWalter "needed"? I suspect he said it because he wanted to say it in order to correct some misconceptions about the possibility of a science of consciousness.
We can have objective knowledge about pain, which is ontologically subjective. People make this fallacious move, they think ontologically subjective=epistemologically subjective.
Because the philosophers were like "shit, physics doesn't disprove consciousness, it flat out doesn't even need it"
The argument for pure nihilism around 20:00 is a wonderful postmodern restatement of the philosophy from N. I. C. E. in CS Lewis’ Space Trilogy.
Watch again? Don't mind if I do! This time with a nice cup of ☕
Great essay as always DAMO
nourishing content
I wish I was allowed by Money Daddy to share my spiritual journey, opening my mind to base-scale Infinities. Or my Wolfram Alpha tree-of-life derivatives.
Prove it: pain and pleasure. Those who believe consciousness is an illusion may very well indeed be philosopher's zombies.
Contact was one of those movies that could have been so much better. The ending was such a cliché. A build up that failed to deliver.
This video essay is much more interesting and thought provoking than the movie ever was.
This movie always felt like it didn't quite reach its potential.
I don’t think many people feel the same.
It should be noted that Carl Sagan was not the best SF writer. There are a lot of mistakes in the novel that any editor would have caught.
Well might be that that's the *only* fictional book he (and Ann) ever wrote...frankly I find it shocking how excellent it was given zero experience or training or practice
Lucky you caught them.
Bravo. 👏👏👏
HA, Matt-Mac!
Wonderful video. Not sure why you would make expirience and believe as the same. Expirience does not require believe. It leaves interpretation open because it's subjective but it doesn't need to answer the question if it is or isn't imo.
So if a person experiences god then god is real?
@@DamienWalter my perspective on it is that when somebody expirienced "god" then "god" is real to that person. And every exprience can be different.
You have done a few of these podcasts on a beach by the ocean. For gods sake! Come to Australian and do one on a 'real' beach!! 😉
🎉everything is everything
Nice to see a sun hat
i do love this film.. lol.. & Carl Sagan
Sagan also participated in the successful effort to suppress the works of Immanuel Velikovsky for reasons that seem way more in line with beliefs than anything else, setting back physics & cosmology 75 years and counting.
Nobody's perfect, eh?
Interstellar was mediocre as can possibly be.
It's not among the greats, but it's far above mediocre
I never watched the movie. Contact is one of the few books that I never finished. Based on this video, I'm still not sure if I missed anything important.
Never read the book, but I've always been so frustrated with the movie.
Yes, I appreciate how it addresses (kinda blatantly) matters of Belief, Proof, Faith (which requires no proof), Doubt, and Transcendent Experience. . .
But outside of these arguments was the REALLY COOL scientific speculation of how aliens might go about making CONTACT with humans. It begins so damn strong with the sound of the signal, the image of the Swaztika, and the way the alien schematics needed to be put together. Shoot, even the early scene with Elli trying to radio out to anyone who might listen after her father dies.
Really terrific ideas that make the mystery and intrigue of communicating with something genuinely ALIEN so alluring. . .all interwoven will almost Soap Opera-like melodrama, where people are unnaturally petty, unnaturally cool, or unnaturally passionate and paranoid, completely without human nuance, as if everyone is some caricature of what the worst of the 1990s imagined people to be.
("Arrival" was a better movie in keeping away from these stereotypes, and just letting the science/philosophy go and play. It didn't have the PUNCH that Contact had at its peak, but at least the people and their motivations were all believable.)
Hopefully someone will correct that.
PS I'm also not one of those people who simply assumes that religious faith and science have to butt heads all the time. In fact, I think it's a FALSE dichotomy that's presented by very finite minds.
Outside of the fact that just about every pre-Einstein mind who made significant contributions to the realms of mathematics and/or science had adhered to some kind of dogma or mysticism, particularly when it comes to aliens, my mom's old minister liked to write sci-fi on the side, and his own son went on to become one of the astrobiologists at NASA.
So, uh. . .