@@taylorthomas4962 oh noooooooo Glad I could help out tho LOL I went a full year in CK2 without knowing about the character finder tool, so don't feel too bad
The marriage filters search for fertile spouses by default - my favorite thing to do when I don't want more kids is to change that to search for only infertile spouses. They aren't always fully infertile - it seems they get categorized there even if they're simply chaste or have the -50% fertility congenital trait, but it's also useful for finding 45+ year old ladies to use for prestige/alliances/stats
The game calculates fertility by average of the two person, so, if you’re very fertile then there it is. Female can have kids up to 45, so Id suggest you to sort by age.
I did the achievement the slow slow way - starting as France in 1066, moving my way over to the Byzantines, offering to be vassalized, making progress from the inside eating all the territories, creating and becoming King of Thessalonikki, then declaring independence and making a dash for Constantinople. I agree it takes a lot of time, and there's a lot of variables along the way (particularly the time when my realm was inherited by a Welsh Cathar and I spent 15 years just getting back to normal...), so your approach is definitely better in basically all respects. But I did have fun!
I obtained this achievement with the Jarl Haesteinn. I conquered the County of Naples and later the Kingdom of Thessalonia. The emperor of the Byzantine Empire had no allies, I had 500 gold and hired 3 mercenary companies plus an alliance that I made. After winning the war (on the third attempt) I adapted the culture of my county (French). Edited: You don't have to be a Catholic to get the achievement. I was Asatru and still got the achievement
I went through all this and sadly the achievement didn't fire :( I'll have to try again later . . . Ah! I forgot to get all the counties of Thessalonika. Second try and there is a jihad against me followed by my own vassals starting an independence war! 😊 Ok so on to try three!
I did this back when the wiki said to play as the HRE, culture convert, and then invade Byzantine. Seemed like too many steps to me. While I did do it as Haesteinn and not your method, I didn't experience any RNG outside of the norm. I found zero difficulty it accomplishing this achievement since I just vassalized myself to Byzantine for protection, waited on the money (which takes hardly any time as Thessalonika) and then started an independence faction (abducting the Basileus prior to enforcing). It was all very easily controllable with little to no RNG involved. The achievement was completed in October of 880 for me. On speed 5 I think it took me like 20 minutes, if that. My point being is that there's not that much RNG involved in Haesteinn. The only RNG issue I had was that Byzantine was allied to West Francia and I still won the war without issue. But at the end of the day, that's the beauty of paradox games. There's more than one way to skin the underbelly of the Byzantine Empire.
I just finished my massive Mother of Us All achievement and apparently all achievements that require you to start as a specific character are bugged (if you exit the game at any point after that original character has died the achievement becomes unavailable) so I didn't get it and I'm heartbroken
I did the exact same thing lol. It sucks because I really like those achievements because it gives a bit of structure to what I am doing. Going to hold of until they get patched though.
I think it is kinda random. I have the capet dynasty achievement (seventh generation ı guess and it is character specific) but game didnt give me willy the fox even though requirements were met.
Its worse. I did it 3 times, never exited the game or even went back to main menu. That achievement is straight up bugged. No way of doing it from what i can tell.
I did it pretty easily by creating a custom french orthodox character as the duke of thelassoniki and then conquering enought to form the kingdom within the empire, breaking off of it with a independance faction, murdering the empire for every needed lands with strong allies, and divorcing my then wife to adopt catholicism from a new wife. It might sound like a lot but honestly it was quick and fun.
so basically instead of trying to obtain Thessalonik from the Byzantines as a French catholic via conquest you play as the Byzantine emperor, make a French catholic heir and break off Thessalonik and let your heir rule there
I don't know why people would spend the time to educate Haesteinn's heir as French since you can just launch the invasion after doing a lot of raiding to get a lot of money to make titles, then convert to local culture since you start with your capital being French. I only really did this as Haesteinn because I wanted to make his achievement an actual challenge compared to say, just aiming for Brittany/Ireland.
@@joshkercenneck2357 started as the Count of Milan in the 800s start, expanded my realm within Italy and when the crusades started I managed to win thw crown of Jerusalem, from then on, with the bonus units you get from the crusade, it was pretty easy to win against the muslim states and snowball, this was made easier by the fact that for the first time, my subjects actually helped converting the culture of my realm, so I could advance the cisalpine culture relatively fast. at around the 1030s I got all the required land and reformed the empire of Outremer. I believe the base requirements are to be a Catholic crusader state, but I'm not %100 sure of that.
@@dnlowithstripes i started off in 867 as the norse nomandy guy. I landed him in leon. Conquered a bunch of duchies while still norse religion. Gave my grandsom the dutchy of alexandria and switched to him with the goal of forming outremer. I guess my main qusetion is can i stll form it if i l convert all the provences to my norman culture. Will i still get the decision to embrace outremer or no
@@joshkercenneck2357 As soon as I formed the Empire I got converted to Outremer culture automatically, at that point your vassals get a decision to convert themselves, but so far mine haven't done so, I guess you could convert back to norman, it would certainly be more convenient for me to convert back to Cisalpine as all of the middle east and Egypt is of that culture now instead of Outremer.
For people that want this achievement but also play an actual game consider playing as Robert the fox and slowly expand towards the required kingdoms so you can get 2 achievements
Haesting's achievment is easy. Brittany is a kingdom and as long as they dont ally with France it's easy to take both Leon and Brittany which makes you a king in like 5 years. If they do ally with France, it's still not hard as you have the special troops. If RNG screws you restart it's only a few years to replay.
The trick to getting independence without a war is to wait for the time to push an ultimatum. I gained independence. ... But, not before the punk gained Constantinople. So, I broke the truce to get it back, but I was also in the middle of a war for Serres. I surrendered that war not knowing I needed it. Now, I'm disgraced and can't get Serres back for a while. I'll try again later.
Video looks interseting so I click on it and go fullscreen, I lean back in my chair spiping on my tea when suddenly I spot something disgusting! Task bar at the top of the screen. At least the rest was good!
So in your run, which will happen often considering that decision to reclaim Constantinople is free, there is RNG along with RNG of having several sons. Your big complaint against the Haestienn route is acquiring the 1k gold to make two Duke titles and one King title? He starts off with 500 gold and you can easily make an addition 300 from ransoming captives during that war. Let alone raiding Byz once the war is finished. EDIT: Not to mention Hasteinn can divorce his wife on day 1 with the 100 piety he has, so you have only 1 son with 100% chance of becoming French and Catholic. I don't know, the other way seems easier considering that Haesteinn has more troops than Byz does. However you are correct, considering that Haesteinn can get this done in like 5 years instead of 18.
I'm probably missing something but after watching this video I tried to do it the Haesteinn way and in no way did I have more troops than the Byzantines. I stood no chance in that war.
Question about this - I've tried this three times now exactly as you described but I always get a vassal uprising during my independence war, or during the war for Constantinople right after. I end up losing titles before I can get all of Thessalonika under my control. Any way around this or just keep trying and hope RNG works better next time? Awesome content, btw.
My immediate advice for mad vassals would be to give the most powerful ones some council slots and if that's not enough, just hand it a few of your counties to the angry vassals! That way you should be good to go
How do you get the indepdeance factions to not fire after you gain independence. I've been at it for 5 hours straight and all the same result. with only onagers as men at arms and I still can't get Constantinople sieged before the independence factions steal my levy
Does CK3 have a kill list? I couldn't find it on character screen. Oh it would be so cool to have a "dynastic kill list", listing all deaths made by the dynasty members, and it would be especially cool to have a list of "wiped out dynasties" :3
This plain out doesnt work. At all. I do manage to get to the point where I have most of the byzantine empire without being emperor, but due to all the steps you describe the vassals hate one so much that literally everyone breaks off before you can win your first war. And in multiple tries the independence was never granted, despite having 10 times the military power.
I tried this, but my vassals turned on me just days before we retook Constantinople. Dunno if we'd have got 100% warscore, but ah well EDIT: Managed it!
I'll do this to get the achievement then because i was going to do it as a side goal in my Capet Run, I was going to do it in my karling to roman empire run but because i formed rome through the byzantine empire title i didnt get the achievement unfortunately.
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A quick tip to avoid having any unwanted sons: When you search for a french wife, under the "fertility" option, choose infertile
I’m just upset I didn’t know about the search options in that menu lol. Soooooo much scrolling 😂🤣
@@taylorthomas4962 oh noooooooo
Glad I could help out tho LOL
I went a full year in CK2 without knowing about the character finder tool, so don't feel too bad
The marriage filters search for fertile spouses by default - my favorite thing to do when I don't want more kids is to change that to search for only infertile spouses. They aren't always fully infertile - it seems they get categorized there even if they're simply chaste or have the -50% fertility congenital trait, but it's also useful for finding 45+ year old ladies to use for prestige/alliances/stats
The game calculates fertility by average of the two person, so, if you’re very fertile then there it is. Female can have kids up to 45, so Id suggest you to sort by age.
@@HugoAire they can have kids after that theres no hard stop its all math
@@rickyrick2330 If you look into the code there is a hard stop....
Ah yes metagaming ;)
@@HugoAire if they are fecund they can get pregnant until 50 years old
"Haesteinn will die early" Boy, patch 1.3 sure changed that.
I did the achievement the slow slow way - starting as France in 1066, moving my way over to the Byzantines, offering to be vassalized, making progress from the inside eating all the territories, creating and becoming King of Thessalonikki, then declaring independence and making a dash for Constantinople. I agree it takes a lot of time, and there's a lot of variables along the way (particularly the time when my realm was inherited by a Welsh Cathar and I spent 15 years just getting back to normal...), so your approach is definitely better in basically all respects. But I did have fun!
OPB: "Who cares about Sicily?"
Cosa Nostra: "Listen here you little sh.."
OPB: Kills sons so they don't inherit
Me: Just makes all sons French catholic so whoever wins is a French catholic. Stonks
Ok that’s cool and all, but now you need to unite Africa in less than 20 years as well.
I miss Khagan Batu and Khagan Hulegu.
I obtained this achievement with the Jarl Haesteinn. I conquered the County of Naples and later the Kingdom of Thessalonia. The emperor of the Byzantine Empire had no allies, I had 500 gold and hired 3 mercenary companies plus an alliance that I made. After winning the war (on the third attempt) I adapted the culture of my county (French).
Edited: You don't have to be a Catholic to get the achievement. I was Asatru and still got the achievement
“Why are we going so fucking fast”- me this whole video😂 gg tho
I went through all this and sadly the achievement didn't fire :( I'll have to try again later . . . Ah! I forgot to get all the counties of Thessalonika. Second try and there is a jihad against me followed by my own vassals starting an independence war! 😊 Ok so on to try three!
I did this back when the wiki said to play as the HRE, culture convert, and then invade Byzantine. Seemed like too many steps to me.
While I did do it as Haesteinn and not your method, I didn't experience any RNG outside of the norm. I found zero difficulty it accomplishing this achievement since I just vassalized myself to Byzantine for protection, waited on the money (which takes hardly any time as Thessalonika) and then started an independence faction (abducting the Basileus prior to enforcing). It was all very easily controllable with little to no RNG involved. The achievement was completed in October of 880 for me. On speed 5 I think it took me like 20 minutes, if that.
My point being is that there's not that much RNG involved in Haesteinn. The only RNG issue I had was that Byzantine was allied to West Francia and I still won the war without issue.
But at the end of the day, that's the beauty of paradox games. There's more than one way to skin the underbelly of the Byzantine Empire.
The cute baby portraits in ck3 make it too hard for me to treat them badly.
Nice! Doing this achievement with Haesteinn is also interesting and viable. :)
I just finished my massive Mother of Us All achievement and apparently all achievements that require you to start as a specific character are bugged (if you exit the game at any point after that original character has died the achievement becomes unavailable) so I didn't get it and I'm heartbroken
I did the exact same thing lol. It sucks because I really like those achievements because it gives a bit of structure to what I am doing. Going to hold of until they get patched though.
Happened to me too with Rurik the troublemaker. I still don't get why they did not go for a hotfix on that -.- .
I think it is kinda random. I have the capet dynasty achievement (seventh generation ı guess and it is character specific) but game didnt give me willy the fox even though requirements were met.
Yea OPB even mentioned on stream that he isn't really playing Ironman at the moment due to the bugs.
Its worse. I did it 3 times, never exited the game or even went back to main menu. That achievement is straight up bugged. No way of doing it from what i can tell.
I did it pretty easily by creating a custom french orthodox character as the duke of thelassoniki and then conquering enought to form the kingdom within the empire, breaking off of it with a independance faction, murdering the empire for every needed lands with strong allies, and divorcing my then wife to adopt catholicism from a new wife.
It might sound like a lot but honestly it was quick and fun.
As a Byzantine fan a tear runs down my face but still kudos for the achievement!
so basically instead of trying to obtain Thessalonik from the Byzantines as a French catholic via conquest you play as the Byzantine emperor, make a French catholic heir and break off Thessalonik and let your heir rule there
Ty so much OPB for this, I kept screwing it up by not changing the objective to the county. 🤪
I played as haastein as recommended and was pretty chill :)
have been looking forward to a new upload for days
I don't know why people would spend the time to educate Haesteinn's heir as French since you can just launch the invasion after doing a lot of raiding to get a lot of money to make titles, then convert to local culture since you start with your capital being French. I only really did this as Haesteinn because I wanted to make his achievement an actual challenge compared to say, just aiming for Brittany/Ireland.
That is true.
Worked a charm thank you.
I tired this after 1.1 and it seems thé entire realm becomes feudal elective since everyone got a kingdom
Just wow 👏 hats off mate so wicked how u figured out how to do this
The efficacy in which you execute your son. Talent.
Wow look at this very cool video
Very engaging, as demonstrated by me leaving a comment.
I just formed Outremer, thinking it would be a fun goal, but just after I formed it I noticed there' not Achievement tied to it...
How exactly did you do that. I have been trying to do it but i dont know the requirements.
@@joshkercenneck2357 started as the Count of Milan in the 800s start, expanded my realm within Italy and when the crusades started I managed to win thw crown of Jerusalem, from then on, with the bonus units you get from the crusade, it was pretty easy to win against the muslim states and snowball, this was made easier by the fact that for the first time, my subjects actually helped converting the culture of my realm, so I could advance the cisalpine culture relatively fast. at around the 1030s I got all the required land and reformed the empire of Outremer. I believe the base requirements are to be a Catholic crusader state, but I'm not %100 sure of that.
@@dnlowithstripes i started off in 867 as the norse nomandy guy. I landed him in leon. Conquered a bunch of duchies while still norse religion. Gave my grandsom the dutchy of alexandria and switched to him with the goal of forming outremer. I guess my main qusetion is can i stll form it if i l convert all the provences to my norman culture. Will i still get the decision to embrace outremer or no
@@joshkercenneck2357 As soon as I formed the Empire I got converted to Outremer culture automatically, at that point your vassals get a decision to convert themselves, but so far mine haven't done so, I guess you could convert back to norman, it would certainly be more convenient for me to convert back to Cisalpine as all of the middle east and Egypt is of that culture now instead of Outremer.
For people that want this achievement but also play an actual game consider playing as Robert the fox and slowly expand towards the required kingdoms so you can get 2 achievements
Haesting's achievment is easy. Brittany is a kingdom and as long as they dont ally with France it's easy to take both Leon and Brittany which makes you a king in like 5 years. If they do ally with France, it's still not hard as you have the special troops. If RNG screws you restart it's only a few years to replay.
The trick to getting independence without a war is to wait for the time to push an ultimatum.
I gained independence. ... But, not before the punk gained Constantinople. So, I broke the truce to get it back, but I was also in the middle of a war for Serres. I surrendered that war not knowing I needed it. Now, I'm disgraced and can't get Serres back for a while.
I'll try again later.
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Gave this a try. My entire court got the bubonic plague and my son died from it... I guess not entirely guaranteed.
As one of the 0.1%ers who have Blood Eagle, I approve. I might try Haesteinn, just for the challenge!
Haesteinn is easy, all achievements are easy, you need only a plan.
thanks
This aint working for me.
ALWAYS something wrong happens. i believe the classic strategy is much safer
Video looks interseting so I click on it and go fullscreen, I lean back in my chair spiping on my tea when suddenly I spot something disgusting!
Task bar at the top of the screen.
At least the rest was good!
I have more achievements than OPB. WOOOO
Seems very impressive, unfortunately I can't figure out how to play it at half speed to tell what in the hell is going on lol
I really like your achievements get episodes how i found you.
So in your run, which will happen often considering that decision to reclaim Constantinople is free, there is RNG along with RNG of having several sons. Your big complaint against the Haestienn route is acquiring the 1k gold to make two Duke titles and one King title? He starts off with 500 gold and you can easily make an addition 300 from ransoming captives during that war. Let alone raiding Byz once the war is finished.
EDIT: Not to mention Hasteinn can divorce his wife on day 1 with the 100 piety he has, so you have only 1 son with 100% chance of becoming French and Catholic. I don't know, the other way seems easier considering that Haesteinn has more troops than Byz does. However you are correct, considering that Haesteinn can get this done in like 5 years instead of 18.
I'm probably missing something but after watching this video I tried to do it the Haesteinn way and in no way did I have more troops than the Byzantines. I stood no chance in that war.
this could have a hilarious AAR
Thx thx thx 💜💜💜💜💜
Question about this - I've tried this three times now exactly as you described but I always get a vassal uprising during my independence war, or during the war for Constantinople right after. I end up losing titles before I can get all of Thessalonika under my control. Any way around this or just keep trying and hope RNG works better next time? Awesome content, btw.
My immediate advice for mad vassals would be to give the most powerful ones some council slots and if that's not enough, just hand it a few of your counties to the angry vassals! That way you should be good to go
Yeah... i totally have all of the ck2 achievements
What do you think would be a good start to do this achievement more "legitimately"?
I started as a Karling, waited for the Byzantines to collapse and invaded. Took significantly longer than this lol
How do you get the indepdeance factions to not fire after you gain independence. I've been at it for 5 hours straight and all the same result. with only onagers as men at arms and I still can't get Constantinople sieged before the independence factions steal my levy
Nice.
Does CK3 have a kill list? I couldn't find it on character screen. Oh it would be so cool to have a "dynastic kill list", listing all deaths made by the dynasty members, and it would be especially cool to have a list of "wiped out dynasties" :3
it's on your character screen
Already have it, hue.
This plain out doesnt work. At all.
I do manage to get to the point where I have most of the byzantine empire without being emperor, but due to all the steps you describe the vassals hate one so much that literally everyone breaks off before you can win your first war. And in multiple tries the independence was never granted, despite having 10 times the military power.
Haesteinn is pronounced Hesten. Just a note.
Any chance you will do videos on other Achievements? I was hopping for "Willy as a fox" and "What Nepotism?" expecially.
I tried this, but my vassals turned on me just days before we retook Constantinople. Dunno if we'd have got 100% warscore, but ah well
EDIT: Managed it!
nice
I'll do this to get the achievement then because i was going to do it as a side goal in my Capet Run, I was going to do it in my karling to roman empire run but because i formed rome through the byzantine empire title i didnt get the achievement unfortunately.
Jesus you talk quick
I follow the hole advises and failed. Hold Thessaloniki, independent from Byzanz and be french and catholics. What make I am wrong?
How to become a millionaire? Simple, start as a billionaire and lose 999 million dollars.
just like this achievement run, it's certainly easier than doing it the 'intended' way.
Do you have a mod list? There are some cool mods available but some of them don't say if they are achievement compatible
Noice.
Can we get a guide to "Whats Nepotism"? Easily the most cancer achievement in the game.
The achievements are easy. This the only hard achievement and you have the easiest viedeos to understan ;)
My ck 3 crash after 1074
bruh unlocked all achievos already. Just use karlings.
didnt work for me
3:10 Do you need to marry your French Catholic person to educate your child or would inviting them to your court work just as well?
It works just as well!
@@OneProudBavarian I thought so, and that way you wouldn't need to worry about having more kids.
I had to slow you down
Until Death Do Us Part done by 32%... seriously? People by the game an haven't played a single ironman game?
Just tried to do this, but while retaking Constantinople a Greek Orthodox Uprising fired and my empire exploded. 20000 troops agains my then 2000. fml
Yoir son could die randomly, so your strategy is not 'guaranteed'. ;-)
Good video, though.
You speak way too fast.
Speaking too fast for enjoyment or really comprehension.
You can slow the video down in the youtube player
Primary and secondary son?
You had a perfect opportunity to use “HEIR AND A SPARE” SMH😤
Jk fun video