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Why The Seiko SPB185 MM200 Is STILL One Of The Best Seiko Divers In 2023
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- Опубликовано: 16 авг 2024
- Thanks to Exquisite Timepieces for sending this MM200 in for review!
The Seiko SPB185 Steelmaster / Marine Master 200 (MM200) / Marine Master Reduced has been one of my most anticipated watches ever since it was released back in 2020. I knew I wanted one but it just never happened. In the meantime I bought the SPB313 Slim Willard and SPB265 Captain WIllard, and I own the ultimate SLA021 Marine Master 300. This needed to change. I wanted to experience what I think is one of Seiko’s best tool dive watches.
So thankfully Exquisite Timepieces was able to send one in for review and I finally was able to wear what I hoped was going to be my new favorite watch. But now that its 2023, is it still worth it? In this video I’m going to get into the details about the MM200, the dimensions, how it wears on the wrist, the dial, handset, and case all that good stuff. Also while this isn't a MM300 comparison video I’ll be referencing it throughout the video because they are obviously directly related.
Also my Marine Master 300 is for sale! I have the original box and papers alongside the original rubber strap and bracelet with the quick adjust dive extension clasp. The condition you see in the video is what it is currently like in real life. Other than a couple small dings, the case barely has any scratches. Only some hairline scratches on the bottom bevel of the case side which are invisible in most lights and most angles. The bracelet is sized for my 7.5 inch wrist but other than 2-3 days, it was never worn. The rubber strap remains in good condition although it shows a normal amount of wear on the edges.
EMAIL ME AT thewatchidiot@gmail.com AND PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR ZIP CODE SO I CAN GET MYSELF A QUOTE. The price is $2,000 with FREE SHIPPING (in the US lower 48, anywhere else just contact me) which makes it cheaper than all of the comparable full set MM300s in the US on Chrono24 and Ebay. Thanks!
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TIME STAMPS:
The Seiko MM200 - 00:00
Dimensions And On The Wrist - 01:11
Case And Bezel - 03:23
Dial And Handset - 05:46
The Bracelet - 08:13
DIMENSIONS:
Case width: 42.1mm
Lug width: 20mm
Bracelet at clasp: 18.0mm
Bracelet taper: 2mm
Lug to lug: 48.8mm
Bezel width: 40.4mm
Dial width: 30.5mm
Case thickness: 13.0mm
Midcase thickness: 6.8mm
Bezel height: 3.3mm
Crown diameter: 6.4mm
Crown height: 4.0mm
Weight: with all links: 187 grams
Water resistance: 200m
Crystal: Sapphire
Movement: Seiko 6R35
Power reserve: 70 hours
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My MM300 is for sale! Check out the description for all the details about the watch and the free shipping😁
The marine master SLA021 has been my grail since the day it was launched, and watching your videos made me want it even more. Unfortunately, I have been in crisis for the last two years, and won't be able to avail this opportunity. I hope I can get an SLA021 later in good condition.
The watch reviews on this channel are really some of the best on youtube without a doubt, makes much bigger watch channels look a bit silly if you ask me...
The MM200 case has to be my favorite. Perfect in almost every way
I have the SPB240 and loved it so much that I ordered this as well. The reduced Marine Masters are literally such a huge value
I have the spb187. For me the case is superb, it conforms to the wrist brilliantly. Great watch however I did have to regulate the movement as it was running at -20.
I had both, sold the SPB185, never looked back. Yeah the 300 is bigger and heavier but it has so much more detail and better finish. Bracelets is worse on mm300 and I wear mine on a rubber strap. Feels great.
I always liked this one. One of my top 3 that they've made in the mm200 variations. BUT, I am so wary of the 6R35 movement. For me, to invest in another Seiko with a 6R35... I just have to mentally prepare myself for the potential for disappointment in the movement accuracy performance. For around $1k, these days I'd rather invest that $$ towards something less risky.
Love the Steelmaster, the perfect diver for ~$1k. I also love the SPB207 in green
My spb207 is one of my favourite watches and I can image ever selling it
Hello and thank you for this video. I knew this model under the Japanese name Sbdc125. And I adore it. I appreciate, like you, the bezel reminiscent of a Sbbn007 Tuna. And many other things too. Definitely a future purchase. Have a nice summer. 😉🇨🇵
I have one and I love it. The metal bezel insert is what really does it for me.
This Seiko looks better than my Omega Seamaster w/SS bezel. I really like it! I might do the JDM version just for the kanji…but this mat black SS bezel with a chili dip of red on the second hand is a real solid design.
But you don't get kanji because this is date only.
I have the spb207 LE, it's a permanent watch in my collection
I personally think its the most beautiful dive watch ever made
awesome-looking watch for sure
I second that!
Where did you buy a mm200 rubber strap? 😊
Recommend modding it and adding a skx black ceramic bezel, looks really good IMO
I'm debating between this exact mm200 and the white dial slim turtle.
I’m looking forward to the video in a few months’ time when you get sick that you sold your MM300 and had to buy another one. Seems to frequently happen!
Lol yeah Bruce Williams is on his 87th MM300 it seems like! I've never rebought a watch so let's see if the MM300 will change things up😬
3 o’clock lume plot. They made it look like a eyesore on several models when they awkwardly put it in the minute track. Would love to seen them extend the 12/6/9 markers into the minute track, which would completely correct this. And it would create more are for lume.
The SPB185 and SPB187 are my favorite varients of the MM200. I owned a SPB185 for a while, but didnt wear it enough to warrent keeping it. Hope Seiko makes a thinner and smaller automatic diver someday, maybe a modern rendition of the SKX007 and SKX013?
oh man if they ever make a 40mm SKX with 20mm lugs i will collapse lol! They dont make divers right at the 40mm mark much strangely enough, only the SPB143 and the SPB313 slim willard as far as I know
Which black rubber strap is that?
At the end of your video you mentioned you swap out the clasp. I just bought one of these used waiting for it to come in what clasp do you generally swap these brackets to?
If you can only have one. This or a slim turtle? Currently have an OG turtle and torn between the slim and the mm reduced as a replacement.
I have the spb 185 and still want a slim turtle. Oh, and I also have a regular 🐢
What rubber strap are you using?
62mas is still my fav seiko design
hey man love the video and i own and love this watch and actually have it on the same fkm style strap currently! Was wondering what type of clasps specifically you usually swap out w? as the clasp is the only thing i dont like about he bracelet
This watch is dead gorgeous !!! I strongly feel that Seiko Prospex diver watches are better than Swiss made diver watches. Seiko lasts lifetime without any problems.
You obviously haven't heard of the debacles concerning 6R movements and quality control... Seiko is WAY behind the curve. No need to bring the Swiss up in this discussion at all - they are playing in a different league really.
Both watches look incredible in their own ways. They're the same yet as different as can be so they really could be part of the same collection. I have a feeling that youve got your eye on a certain gmt given your appreciation for Marine Masters?😂
Yeah in real life they're about as different as two watches with the "same design" can be! And lol yes we're on the same page there is a GMT that I've got my eyes on and it might be coming in for review soon😬
Brilliant design. I'd prefer another color bezel insert.
I’ve had the SPB185 for about 1.5 years. Agree completely about the style, finishing, wearability: all fantastic. Sadly, mine is also a prime example of Seiko QC, running 15-20 slow. Worse, recently the bezel mechanism has apparently worn out one of its springs, making it a sloppy 60-click affair (and of course, stopping on the half-minute). I’ve heard this bezel is a beast to remove, so probably no DIY fix for me. In my collection, this is at least Seiko’s third strike. A shame, as I still love many of their cases.
What is the difference with the turtle or king turtle ?
Does mm 200 have Zaratsu polishing also!!
Just wondering what the rubber strap was on your 185? Thanks,
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I still prefer the MM300.
The MM300 is a super special watch for sure I'd love to have both in my collection at the same time!
I think you're a natural on RUclips, comfortable and yet self-deprecating, but the overemphasis on Seiko is coming close to driving me away. Apparently I hate that brand as much as you love it.
Thank you so much that means a lot to me! I'll admit, there has been quite a bit of Seiko content while things were busy but stay tuned bc there's going to be more brands coming through over the next set of videos like on the Longines 39mm Spirit Zulu Time! (There will still be Seiko at some point tho of course lol😁 but later on)
I desperately wish i had a Seiko diver's 😥
Thankfully there's a huge selection available so hopefully you get one on your wrist soon!
So wait… you’ve got a 143 now?
Ah I wish! the one in the video belongs to my brother in law. BUT if Seiko releases a GMT version of it soon then game on😬
What do you mean by different very Asian when talking about the bracelet? 😂
loooool i said "different variation" but it does sound the same😄
You forgot to mention the fact that this is powered by the 6R35, which is a rubbish movement!
😂
I have the 185 and love it. The case work is really well done for the price. Steel bezel gives that tool watch vibe and stoplight second hand add the bit of retro with a splash of color.
I agree with every word! It's a special watch no doubt especially bc of the steel bezel. Do you wear it on bracelet? How is it compared to other bracelets?
@@thewatchidiot I wear it on the bracelet. I previously had the SBDC051 which had a similar bracelet. (I did a video comparing the SBDC051 and SPB185.) Both bracelets are good quality. Only negatives about the bracelet on the steelmaster is the length of the clasp which is extended by the wet suit extension. I also think the signed fold over clasp is a bit too wide. The small minute marker at the 3 next to the date has never been a big deal for me. Didn't even notice it much until I watched your review. Overall, I love the watch and it is the only thing keeping me from buying the SPB317. I would like to find a tropic rubber to try on my SPB185 to see if that would satiate the desire. Who am I kidding? I'll probably buy a slim turtle next year to add to the collection.