The Difference In IQ Between Race And Gender
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We can talk about breeds of dogs, cats etc and their differences in personalities, aggression etc etc but not when it comes to humans who are also animals
Right. Because we don't want a world where we treat them differently based upon stereotypes. You don't remember when it was considered a scientific FACT that women couldn't be doctors, lawyers, pilots etc. because they were to slow, or too weak or had periods once a month. THAT is what happens when you allow stereotypes to make decisions for your society.
I hate to reduce them to a caricature, but the truth is, they're cowards.
If you tell them it's backed by science, they'll probably just say something like, "Oh, science is a corrupt institution run by the patriarchy and neo-fascists."
So true. And even more important for humans to not, just know, but understand how we work, senses, feelings, emotional int, kogn int, etc. The neighbours in animal kingdom is more selfgoing and still stuck in nature. And they dont fear as much even if life is dangerous. We do! I guess thats the price you have to pay knowing you are mortal and have so much more knowledge than a badger, Rabbit, Ty Pennington haha. And we have humour. We cant show our teeth to look scary anymore. But we can always choose to smile instead of anger, or just attack and get killed by a raccoon. But the world is to crazy right now. The balance in numbers is off, and so different worldwiews amongst people. The world is dangerous in a bad way these days.
I miss times like my trip to Canada 1999 and was close to dying many times hjaha. Stepping on rattlesnakes meeting 8 bears in 3 months, got lost after bachelor party at a stripjoint in penticton got rescued by Indians , they couldnt stop laughing about meeting a drunken Scandinavian beaver hunter in the woods 15km off route to , Slack Alices.
Exactly!
Yeah, but liberal thinking 101 teaches you that all you have to do is yell something loudly enough for long enough and it will become true.
Even Peterson won't talk about it. There are certain races that have far lower IQs. And I think if you account for that, that largely accounts for the wealth gap.
Of course there is. But what do you GET for doing so? What does that rationalization get you? Do you get to round them up? Put them in camps? Bar them from certain jobs? Tell us exactly what you would DO with just "scientific" information. Here's a hint. Google 1930's Germany. You can see it in action and see how it went.
I really hope that isn't the dominant factor. I will cling to the fact that IQ is lower in Africa is because of child malnutrition. and even if you're claim is true, what do we do about it. does it help going around stating it. i think if you fixed the culture the large difference in wealth would also decrease.
Which ones are you referring to?
@@Random51960 "For example, the average scores of black people on some IQ tests in 1995 were the same as the scores of white people in 1945.[70] As one pair of academics phrased it, "the typical African American today probably has a slightly higher IQ than the grandparents of today's average white American."[71]"
From wikipedia about the Flynn effect. It also states scores peaked at 1998 and started dropping. Suggesting that it's in large part due to heritable features.
Or at the very least where can I read more on this?
At last , someone publicly says what most people already know, that race and IQ are true and important in determining how you live your life.
Murray didn't have a solution either.
The best we've been able to come up with is to pretend that all groups are the same, so nobody's feelings get hurt. And that brought us the miracle of DEI, which was well on its way to wrecking our institutions by inserting incompetent people in the name of social justice.
The whole debate is poisoned from the start by the hidden assumption, made by all sides, that intelligence determines a human's worth.
No one in that video implied that intelligence determines human's worth.
@@wikingagresor I didn't mean them, but the taboo topic in general
That’s a virtue signal. We are not interested in making a moral value judgment here. We want objective truth. What are the facts? Then, how can we utilize the facts to optimize outcomes for as many people as possible.
I’ve never heard Peterson or any other academic, psychologist, etc, say that intelligence determines human worth (or value). I’m sure there are individuals who think this way, but no good-faith debate is taking place with human value being dictated by intelligence as the assumption. What they ARE saying is that intelligence is a reliable predictor of how someone’s life will unfold. Intelligence is required to overcome certain challenges, to avoid some challenges altogether, and to evaluate one’s own choices so that mistakes made won’t be repeated. Every human life has intrinsic value, of course, but it’s also true that some lives will be harder to live than others due to lower intelligence and how this impairs decision making, learning from past failures, accurate assessments of self and others, etc. There’s no “poisoned debate” or “hidden assumptions” about worth or value. If anything, you’re the one making the assumption that these ppl in this video are conflating intelligence with human worth, and that’s just not the case.
@@liz9284 correct. It’s the classic mind vs heart debate.
“Well I FEEL like you’re trying to devalue them because of this so it might be true”
Meanwhile the other side is like
“Sort out your feelings on your own time. We’re looking for truth over here.”
Just look at the scientists and inventers. One type of person is quite largely represented, the same type of people in this video.
Save this video offline before it gets deleted. Guys make copies. And kids lol.
I would say you can’t be more of ANYTHING than your genetic environmental mix (your DNA and your surroundings’ influence on you) will allow.
There is wisdom is self-awareness. Awareness of your strengths, your weaknesses, and most importantly, your limitations
I'm an Ashkenazi Jew, and an engineer. Go figure...
Does _epignetics_ have anything to say on this? Good luck getting funding to find out.
I have a hypothesis on this. The genetic environmental mix. The hypothesis holds that within our DNA is everything that can possibly be expressed by us be it physical or nonphysical things. When we are born, some of these traits are active and others are dormant.
The other piece is the environment, which interacts with us. So an environment could theoretically deactivate active genetics and activate dormant genetics.
I further hypothesize that the malleability of this process is at its strongest when we are very young and as we age, it gets weaker and weaker until we solidify into who we fundamentally are at our cores as adults.
At that juncture, traumatic experiences might be the only thing that could bring out something that was dormant by the time we became adults.
Now whether or not scientists wish to test this hypothesis and determine what I believe to be true, I doubt it
Scientifically, IQ is the least important variable regarding life sucess.
That's one of the stupidest statements I've ever heard.
whats the name of the guy that isn't jordan. i forgot
while some of this video's points regarding the correlation between IQ and socioeconomic success and the heritability of intelligence have some basis in scientific research, its claims about fixed and substantial differences between racial/ethnic groups are highly problematic and not supported by a balanced interpretation of the evidence. it's crucial to acknowledge the limitations of IQ tests, the significant role of environmental factors, and the dangers of perpetuating harmful stereotypes. when discussing group differences, it's vital to provide context, caveats, and avoid deterministic interpretations.
Howdy.
Gotta have a lot of guts to take on this topic ...
Regards.
It took guts for Murry to publish his book, "the Bell Curve" back in the nineties. Today it's hard to hide these facts.
Maybe I am doing wishful thinking here but Thomas Sowell makes a good case for IQ being very much influenced by culture and it stopping IQ development in teenage years. Here the Sephardic jews were doing great for centuries while the Azkhenazi were a lower class, with institutional education in the 1800s they soared.
Another taboo is inbreeding and it's IQ effects. In lots of islamic and African cultures inbreeding is viewed positively, to strengthen family bonds and the tribe, to keep wealth in the family, and lately to get more Western-European citizenships in the family.
You say that like it has to be one or the other. It does not. There is very clearly a symbiotic relationship between genes and environment