I fell in love when I was young and we lost our virginity together. When we broke up I was devastated and felt so unwanted and unlovable. The easiest way to feel wanted and “loved” became through sexual relations. When they didn’t want a relationship after it just reinforced my negative belief that I was unlovable and unwanted. So I became the “predator” of sexual relations and would leave so it made me feel like I was hurting them before they could hurt me. It led me to be numb emotionally and have a conquest mentality, which seeped into other areas of my life. So glad I found God and changed my life around.
This goes back to the adage of fathers keeping their sons out of jail and their daughters off the pole. It's so important for children to have a strong father in the home, especially early on. All sorts of important life outcomes are shaped by this sole variable.
My father was home but hyper-critical and emotionally vacant/treated me like a guy. Guess what I was desperate to find in a man… A dad being home doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll be taught the right things.
My father was hard charging and masculine. My brothers and I fished and hunted early, fought even earlier. Graduated to consuming alcohol and girls in our teens. Jail turned out to be a vacation from busting hump at the local meat packing plant we worked. My sister was just as rowdy and independent. Strong fathers making strong children doesn't always hold true.
Exceptions don't make the rule. Children need fathers! If you had a bad one, that is life. It doesn't mean that children don't need their fathers and mothers.
I find it annoying that a grown woman can use her sexuality to gain material advantage, and after the fact, once all gains have been had, she can be painted with the victim brush. Just looked it up and she was 22-23 when she posed for those photos. Does personal agency _ever_ apply in these situations?
She was also pasionate reader of books, had lot of books. They say she was talking to Einstein. She had higher IQ than Einstein about 165. and she said something to Einstein that if they had kids together, the kid would get her beauty and his wisdom. Einstein said the kid would probly get my beauty and your Marylin wisdom.
I’ll give them sympathy when they relinquish all of the money they gained from their self prostitution. Same applies to OnlyFans and literal porn girls (Lana Rhodes, for example, has recently called for her videos to be taken down because she is starting a family 😂)
I love your videos a lot Jordan Peterson, it has help me as a growing intellectual and young man in this Vast changing society in America among my peers “Gen Z “ . Thank you and I hope to have the opportunity to come to one of your live events one day! 🙏🏾
Both male and female should seek to build value and solve problems. Acknowledge a sole Creator and live according to their holy book to the best of their ability.
I’m not saying women can’t be problem solvers or have utility value, but generally speaking there is much less need for them to have user traits than men. A man is judged almost exclusively on his ability to problem-solve and have utility. If a man doesn’t have these things, his odds of finding a woman who is willing to pass on his bloodline is severely reduced. Women by and large can get by with their beauty and charm. They’re still more than capable of having utility and problem-solving, but the cost for them not having it is much less than it is for men. I agree we should all seek a sole creator and unite under the banner of spirituality though.
Monotheism isn't great either. Painting the spiritual as black&white, good and evil, is incredibly small-minded and childish. Many things exist in the realms beyond what mankind can conceive, and they are just as morally grey and complex as we are.
@@jaredschmidt8013 This is where I have to solemnly disagree with your premise. What you and many other men still don't seem to get is that the economic landscape of today is a lot more expansive and diverse. In basic terms; women no longer need men for money or resources. Never in the history of man kind has their been a time where women could, for the most part, live independently from a man for her survival. Women are seeking men for other reasons now. Namely good genetics for their offspring
@@itachi_blvckitachi_blvck-jq6pf Also romance, feeling loved, having an attractive companion to share life with - are pretty high on most women's list. By "attractive" I mean the deeper chemistry men and women can feel. It's good that women don't have do depend on men for money; gold digging was a bigger problem in the past when women HAD to find a man to support her and the kids.
@@jaredschmidt8013 Thanks for the post. Throughout history, both men and women have problem solved and have contributed to family and community by building value for others. This ability is not gender centered. Both must contribute 100%/100%. Divorce is 50%/50%. Roles and responsibilities can be diverse and each relationship can determine who does what but make no mistake, money needs to be earned, beds made, dishes washed, car oil changed, etc. That has to be done through communication, ability and agreement. That’s initially the struggle; who does what? That’s why faiths are so important; you don’t have to reinvent the wheel per se. Those who came before you suffered similar struggles and we can learn from them how they made it through.
As a young man, I'm done listening to topics about this. Nothing will change on the short term. The current generation of women have accepted sexual promiscuity, and modern dating is a hazard. Better for a regular man to focus his attention and prioritize on the pursuit of success. The chances of finding a "good" woman are slim to none. Let modern women enjoy the choices they've made
It could be said the same for men. As a 27 year old virgin compare to others in my family and friends group even just society I notice these women who show off more find multiple partners but I can’t even find one. They say more men are becoming conservative but I’m struggling to see it. the good ones(men and women) are too far and in between. I personally keep my head down and go about my day.
@stacy-annmorgan6685 If you haven't seen a "good" man within your environment, that just tells me you're in the wrong neighborhood. Most women only flock to the top percentile man, while the majority of men who are willing to be a "good" husband aren't given the opportunity or are just used.
@ I actually pay good money to live in a good neighbourhood. I go to church and see no young men. Only the big churches have these weak men in it. Nobody knows how to meet these days. I attempted to date for the first time the guy saying he was a Christian turned around and was ready to call me a liar. I left.
@@stacy-annmorgan6685 I don't know your exact situation, but you and I might have different meanings for what a "good" man is. If you're paying good money to be in an organization to look for a partner, I would assume you're also looking for a top percentile man. I wish you luck.
@ no it’s a small church we don’t pay to be there. Took me a long time to find a church that was biblical sound. I’m not rich I just choose to actually pay good money not to live in the ghetto.
Dr. Peterson, thank you for uploading this conversations to your RUclips channel, knowing very well you can charge for these videos. As a youth director for a nonprofit organization, these topics are extremely relevant to the issues we face in our communities in south Texas (specifically border towns).
Marylin acted out the anima all the time. She lacked power in her own life so her power drive was became empowered when she realized she could seduce men by acting out the anima. This is destructive to both men and herself. Marylin wanted men to be at her feet due to her own sense of inferiority, but remained unhappy because no one loves Norma Jean, but loves Marylin Monroe. Men love her image but not her, so she ends up being quite lonely underneath. It's not just about looks in Marylin's case, but during that time period time the blonde bombshell was the social expectation of beauty. Now when a man projects his feminine image onto a another human being this is a project of his "anima". Many men projected the anima onto Marylin. This is why Monroe could "turn on" Marylin or keep it "turned off" and stay Norma Jean. Anima projection is often associated with love at first sight or the instantaneous feeling of a crush. She became the collective anima projection for many men who saw the culmination of their mother and the mother archetype (a collective unconscious archetype as powerful as the hero).
Watch Doctor K's video called "A perspective on female loneliness". He reads a comment of a woman who tells her story. She says she's very pretty and that a lot of men get attracted to her appearance, but she feels lonely cause men just want her for her looks. She even said that one man she dated for a couple of months told her that he was with her only because of her looks when she broke up with him (cause she noticed it wasn't working and that he was not actually in love with her). Pretty women are very lonely, cause they are seen as pure objects that men want to use. The same happened with Marilyn.
@@ingrid5944 If you let yourself be used, that's your fault. Men don't want women that have been had by other men. If you don't want to be used, you demand a ring before you give anything up at all.
@@TheOlzeeblue haired liberals have decreed no sex while trump is in office. Which is hilarious, simply because if they had that sense of discipline, abortion wouldn’t have been their primary concern regarding voting 😂rights
she was BPD. She did what she did because she could not work a job, NOR could she obey any of her 3 husbands. People took advantage of her BPD and she destroyed all the men who loved her. Ask Joe.
SHe si not poor, she is an adult woman who can make her own decisions. are women empowered or not??.... you can not be empowered and then a poor victim at the same time. most women chose that, they are not victims they are just experiencing the result of their actions.
She was a very smart woman that was only seen by her looks. She wanted attention, and she was smart, so she got it from one perspective, the perspective of beauty. But she was not emotionally intelligent, unfortunately. She was used till she was dead. I wish I could find her and talk to her and give her a big hug! She had a lovely soul! She just wanted to be loved and to have a loving husband and a family 😢
From deep inside the stupid camp, I’d like to thank you Dr Peterson, for making explicit statements. It’s what most men want and, among the more stupid, myself included, it’s what we need.
Don’t forget the intense competition among some women to attract attention from a desirable male. It’s like selling a product but they don’t know it. And sadly, some drop out of the competition all together because they feel they can’t compete. It’s all so twisted.
That's life. Surviving and thriving in life is all about what you can offer to others for the best arrangement. Our beauty, our bodies, our youth, our intelligence are all tools to hopefully help us survive in this vast, cruel world.
Unfortunately many people are exploited by others. Women for their physical attributes, men for their emotional attributes. If I had photos of my body circulated that didn't make me a cent but made me beloved and desired by the opposite sex, I might not mind so much. Having my emotions exploited for the thrill of attention and ego boost by others leaving me not with everlasting iconic status but just a broken heart wouldn't be my preferred option.
3:35 With all due respect to everyone, we are way too focused on men who consensually use women for casual sex. It's not good, but that obsession makes no sense when we simultaneously utterly fail to address far worse instances of female sexual predation. Female teachers who statutorily grape their minor students face a fraction of the punishment a man would. Women who lie about using birth control to deceive a man into getting her pregnant still profit by getting full child support awards. Then there's the completely ignored problem of paternity fraud. This is all sexual predatory behavior, and of a far worse character than hook-up culture because it does far more damage to the victim than leaving them feeling used. These things have real, often decades long impact on the victim; and yet we do virtually nothing about it. Maybe once we've started taking female sexual predation seriously, and punishing it according to its seriousness, we can go back to clutching our pearls over folks who were merely made to feel icky for a day or two.
In a culture where women can have social protection, economic means etc. Dr. Peterson's theory doesn't wash. It is personal vulnerability that causes the issue and not external forces. Lack of character in other words.
I think the idea behind his 'Economic Theory' is that historically that is how culture has developed so far. It's pretty recent in human history where we have economic and social protections.
In marriage the emotional intimacy is more important than the fashion stuff. like when she knows what kind of food he likes, what music or art h elikes, what vaction he likes, who he is inside of his head, not just outside looks. How can she love amn if she doesnt know who he is in his own head, what music he likes etc the ordinary stuff are to ordinary in emotional intimacy man probably also has similar feelings he doesnt fall just with her looks but what she likes, what books she likes, what music , art , food etc. Because if thjey dont share these ordinary stuff, they may feel like they are married to a robot.
I think this is for a certain kind of person. I don't care if my partner knows what kind of food I like. I need a mind mate...someone with an intellect that can keep up with mine and has its own original ideas. There's a lot of individuality in what people need in a partner.
@@saintsword23 If you're a man, your mind-mate will be another man. You will not find a woman that is both able to keep up with you and wishes to be loyal to you.
I've kind of stopped listening to Louise Perry ever since she said that she got "The Ick" while listening to men talking about their problems in "The Red Pill" documentary in her podcast episode with Cassie Jaye.
I always find it noteworthy when top down feminists like the Perry advocate for traditional marriage and the nuclear family but not the changing of laws that savaged both. She never speaks to the impossible position men find themselves in with modern relationships and the financial, legal and societal realities that accompany them. I view her sanctimonious twaddle with extreme caution. Her rather dramatic feigning of empathy is up there with Amanda Knox.
Frankly, I'm amazed that such people have their views regarding traditional marriage, maintain their ideology, and have no clue that said ideology is counter to the family. They want to eat their cake and have it. If you listen to Mona Charon's Aspen Institute talk, she tells you 2nd Wave was anti-family. If you hear of Charles Fourier and look at his sentiments, you realize the anti-family issue goes to before the 1848 Seneca Falls Convention. Some want to keep something that undermines society on such a level that demographics are undermined across the board in first world areas and those approaching first world status.
@allisterwhitehead. I find it typical of modern men, that you only care about men. Does that mean modern men are gay? with how they hate women and sympathize with men? Your sanctimonious twaddle is a lot like P Diddy.
I'm 26 and STILL waiting until marriage, the world respexts but does not appreciate this kind of patience and dedication. Men and women are lost and regardless of the pain it costs me I will not engage in the 'let's see how it goes' mentality.
The sexual revolution has been something that I've given some thought to. Particularly when it comes to our society and it's attitude towards sex. One could say the sexual revolution was a good thing, where society breaking free from theological tyranny, yet others are saying it's bad because it was the beginning of a more debauched society and the breakdown of the western civilization. Could it be this promiscuous attitude that may have normalised today's single parenting? This has been something I've wondered about when noticing a lot of the people similar age to me and grew up with in the 90's were raised in a single parent household and their dysfunction. Then having this discussion with my own parents and them saying that it was looked down on or pittied, through a tragic loss, when they were growing up in the 70's. But then you have many of these single parents once had a partner and for some reason their relationship broke down. Which brings me to ask, what is wrong with the fairy tale happy ever after when it comes to finding that someone and settling down with kids at an early age?
Look around at people in general. Most of them are dysfunctional, weren't raised all that well, and have psychological problems. A lot of people are selfish and hard to get along with. Happy long term relationships require mentally stability and 2 people who are kind and giving. That's not most our society. I knew a couple married 20 years or more who would gaze into each other's eyes and act like they were just starting to date. They were also very kind people with unusually good character.
Not condoning what happened: Marilyn was paid by the photographer for the photos and did the shoot because she needed money. Leaving the photographer to do with them what he will.
People want to take advantage. That’s the problem. When people see a girl/woman like Marylyn they could think “something’s not right here, maybe she’s been abused or is unsafe somehow” but instead that sort of Satan gets inside them and they think about how they can profit from it, exploit it, etc. They go to satisfying desires of the flesh. She has a sort of appeal where she’s a glamorous/famous girl, but at the same time would fight for the underdog, because of her tough background. And that’s basically where Hollywood ends and pornography begins, where they have desirable girls who seem even more available, more desperate, etc. (and perhaps more abused, more helpless) and consumers begin to care less about the actual person in the movie. Hollywood and pornography also push the corruption of innocence in a sense, but they don’t actually portray this directly. Instead they make the adults seem more young, or make the young seem more like adults. Making them more bonded to the adult figures than would be typical of a normal life. Even characters like Annie, from that classic movie. She seems a bit more adult than a girl in that sort of vulnerable situation would be in real life.
The problem is, a vulnerable girl is wife material. A vulnerable girl that's had lots of men is not. Once you go down that path, being used is all you're good for.
@@SwaeTech I'll not saying she was unattractive, just not over the top. The whole "cutesie" naivety with the cover girl looks would actually turn a reasonably intelligent guy with scruples off. Just my opinion.
I’m in my 50s and divorced after a long marriage. Fit and have decent but not crazy money. I feel like the German machine gunners in opening of Saving Private Ryan mowing down SoFl MILFs They are all divorced and had ton of money to have the front porch redone and abs etched in All MAGA It’s beautiful Thank you feminists I go on dating apps, find a hottie, smile because I know I have at least a 75% chance of sleeping with the hottie for a month or two and moving on
Its really interesting that all this discourse assumes that the over 8 billion people in the world want to live their lives the same which is so fascinating also the double standards are equally interesting.
I am impressed with Dr. Peterson’s Christian Nietschean unique perspective. But I do find his mostly unequivocal embrace of Elon Musk a bit odd - he’s among the most successful males on the planet and (predictably) lives as a functional polygynist, as a tribal chieftain would have in years past. I realize that he prefers Mr Musk to weak people who don’t have his options - he is still a polygynist.
Dr Peterson, you're wrong about Holly Madison, who was one of Hugh Hefner's "bimbos". She's clearly really smart. Read her book. Furthermore, Hefner never met Marilyn Monroe (aka Norma Jean) in person.
The price is the slow collapse of what goes into creating and maintaining what lies beneath the foundation of human society itself, irregardless of the civilization.
Are "girls without fathers" who hit puberty one year earlier predominantly of African heritage? I understand that (on average of course) people of African ancestry sexually mature earlier than Europeans.
On Marilyn's "childlike" presentation and early sexual maturity. I believe puberty can signal the end of growth, height. Do those who mature earlier retain childish features other than short stature?
Well, "Yea".....but the people who voted for him don't care. Most of them can't even spell 'narcissist', let-alone understand why it might be bad in leadership.
Looking back almost 60 years to my teenage years, I was only interested in the short term strategy. All of the “cool” kids were skilled at this and revered for it. Fortunately I wasn’t emotionally or psychologically adept at it. But I can see that had I been, it would have been very easy to slip into Machiavellian patterns of behavior due to immaturity. I would guess that this was the case for so many others. Today’s social media pandemic that teens are enmeshed in serves the same master. So many of my students display hard core narcissistic traits; it’s a scary direction they are going in. There’s no mechanism to limit how far they go down that hole in the ground.
Why cant people just ride the eunich revolution? We just got to admit it sometimes that not many of us should have children and the world will be a better place.
Sounds like the parasitic manipulator, resembles the entire mainstream culture of the last 10-15 years. And most young women, might have adapted this kind of strategy as a result, to some extent. Also, this change seems to have largely resulted in widespread distrust of social systems, and distrust of culture in general. In much the same way, that distrust results from mistreatment of individuals, by individual bad actors, at the microcosmic level of interrelationships.
💯 it also doesn’t help they most women are whores now so dudes simply don’t care to have relations with them beyond sexual ones. So, I disagree with Jordan here in that men have dark tetrad when they sleep around for fun since he’s not mentioning that it’s common sense to not want relations with hoes lol
Marilyn Monroe and Hugh Hefner are both buried in the Corridor of MCorridor of Memories section of Pierce Brothers Westwood Village Memorial Park and Mortuary in Los Angeles, California: Marilyn Monroe Buried in her final resting place in the cemetery Hugh Hefner Buried in a single-space mausoleum crypt to the immediate left of Monroe's Hefner purchased the crypt in 1992 for $75,000. He was buried there in 2017 at the age of 91. Hefner once said, "Spending eternity next to Marilyn is an opportunity too sweet to pass up". In March 2024, the crypt was put up for auction as part of a sale of Hefner's and Monroe's belongings. The crypt sold for over $150,000. The auction also included other items, such as: Monroe's first Playboy magazine cover from 1953 Hefner's burgundy smoking jacket and silk pajamas An orange-hued Elizabeth Arden lipstick owned by Monroe in the 1960s A gown that Monroe wore during the production of “The Seven Year Itch” The Corridor of Memories is often visited by fans from around the world, who leave lipstick kisses on the crypts.
Damit would someone adress these CELL TOWERS not and when you see the abomination of desolation set up as the wholy place / governance. How do you so!ve the pressures not adressing vice!
I'll have to look up and confirm that findng of "girls without father reach puberty 1 year earlier than her peers", but that is a significant evidence for pair bonding in humans being the default. If pair bonding doesn't occur, i.e. the male simply mate and leave, this mechanism would not have evolved.
You mistake men are mindless, instinctual driven animals. Maybe you are just describing yourself. Every boy/man has both reason and free will. You can choose to act like an animal or to act like a Christian. You should like the former.
@@TheCompleteGuitarist I'm free to have an opinion. Your wife's boyfriend probably agrees with me... You must be one of those "white losers for Harris"
I just love the amazing and beautiful landscape of a gorgeous womans body. I've travelled many places and seen amazing sights and breathtaking scenes but nothing compares to the naked body of a beautiful woman. I am happily married and do not cheat on my wife. As a younger man i have absolutely no regret about the wonderful times i spent with women and the vivid memories i hold. Their beauty and passion made my life great..
Depends on what you mean by “pursue”. Let’s say you go out to meet someone and the whole time they’re trying to jump you. You try to have a convo and it’s inanity and innuendo that isn’t even clever. But since they’re hot and just tossing themselves out there you take the test drive. Where would that scenario fall if it happens too many times to count? I mean, it’s not your pursuit but it results in the short term and anyone looking from the outside would assume the worst. What’s the alternative? Give up? Abstain? What exactly would be considered “mutual support” in ALL of those scenarios? What happens when you get bored with “strange” in all of its variations? What do you do when you see what “they” are doing to all the women? Seriously, you should watch some of “hoe-math” videos…he draws pictures lol Here’s the thing, it isn’t even the 2000’s anymore. These chics are shaving their heads over an election ffs. They are not alright. Y’all want to bump up the population you need the POTENTIAL for a stable relationship because chics don’t even know what they want. Certainly not stability; that doesn’t cost $1m/yr… Freaking pirates man…what is it with chics and pirates?
Short-term mating strategies only work if you don't have a future to look forward to, and this could to be due to a lack of hope, as well as a fundamental lack of self-love, there is hope for the future and you do have value as a human being, there is a light at the end of the tunnel, even if you stuck in the abyss.
@@thecrow4597 I wouldn't want to go back to a society in which it's not normal to have a girlfriend as a teenager, to live together as a couple in young adulthood and college and to be consensually romantically involved with whoever one wants.
@misterx3188 sounds like you've been reading propaganda. My grandparents for example pursued each other freely, even against their parents wishes for one set, dated as teenagers, and got married of their own accord.
The cost of the revolution is the lives of innocent humans, dseases, single parent homes, fatherlessness, etc. We are not ment to have many many partners, family is foundational. Children need their parents together in a stable environment. Select a partner and marry them, stay committed to them.
Sure you can enjoy it... But if it wasn't for condoms your behavior would result in a man filled with syphilis, gonorrhea, HIV, herpes... And legions of single mothers and fatherless children. Which is exactly what's happening. So it's not a "success" it's more like what's causing civilization collapse.
Sure you can enjoy it... But if it wasn't for condoms your behavior and psychology would have resulted in a man full of syphilis, gonorrhea, herpes, HIV... Legions of single mothers, fatherless children and civilization problems. Which is exactly what's happening. So it's not a "successful" strategy.
No, that is the wish of someone who is an incel. There is no "need" for sex, you would not die without it. Sex is best preserved for an lifelong intimate relationship. One can live a happy and fulfilled life without sex. Life without loving relationships is where people fail. And a loving relationship does not have to be a sexual one. Family and friends can be equally as loving.
They are the same thing. Both have sinful intentions one of just burning with the resentment of not realizing his desire. Incel is actually better because you arent hurting another person as well. They are flip sides of the same hedonic coin. The only two non ruinous life paths are voluntary celibacy or marriage.
I fell in love when I was young and we lost our virginity together. When we broke up I was devastated and felt so unwanted and unlovable. The easiest way to feel wanted and “loved” became through sexual relations. When they didn’t want a relationship after it just reinforced my negative belief that I was unlovable and unwanted. So I became the “predator” of sexual relations and would leave so it made me feel like I was hurting them before they could hurt me. It led me to be numb emotionally and have a conquest mentality, which seeped into other areas of my life. So glad I found God and changed my life around.
Wow
I acted the same way. Only it was my father who made me feel unwanted. Jesus and sobriety saved me from it.
Blessed are you by the Lord my friend.
You sound rational. ... >frown< *I get it that there are often 'nuances', but, ffs...
Can’t fuck god though can you ? Sexuality is a gift use it but don’t abuse it
This goes back to the adage of fathers keeping their sons out of jail and their daughters off the pole. It's so important for children to have a strong father in the home, especially early on. All sorts of important life outcomes are shaped by this sole variable.
My father was home but hyper-critical and emotionally vacant/treated me like a guy. Guess what I was desperate to find in a man…
A dad being home doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll be taught the right things.
My father was hard charging and masculine. My brothers and I fished and hunted early, fought even earlier. Graduated to consuming alcohol and girls in our teens. Jail turned out to be a vacation from busting hump at the local meat packing plant we worked. My sister was just as rowdy and independent. Strong fathers making strong children doesn't always hold true.
What does ‘strong’ father mean?
I swear you people and your abstractions.
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Yes blame dad for your promiscuity. Just admit you enjoy it
Exceptions don't make the rule. Children need fathers! If you had a bad one, that is life. It doesn't mean that children don't need their fathers and mothers.
I find it annoying that a grown woman can use her sexuality to gain material advantage, and after the fact, once all gains have been had, she can be painted with the victim brush. Just looked it up and she was 22-23 when she posed for those photos. Does personal agency _ever_ apply in these situations?
Accountability is not a measure applied to western women.
@@namegoeshere2903 What "accountability" does Monroe owe you?
People do all sorts of things when they are hungry
She was also pasionate reader of books, had lot of books. They say she was talking to Einstein.
She had higher IQ than Einstein about 165.
and she said something to Einstein that if they had kids together, the kid would get her beauty and his wisdom.
Einstein said the kid would probly get my beauty and your Marylin wisdom.
I’ll give them sympathy when they relinquish all of the money they gained from their self prostitution.
Same applies to OnlyFans and literal porn girls (Lana Rhodes, for example, has recently called for her videos to be taken down because she is starting a family 😂)
I love your videos a lot Jordan Peterson, it has help me as a growing intellectual and young man in this Vast changing society in America among my peers “Gen Z “ . Thank you and I hope to have the opportunity to come to one of your live events one day! 🙏🏾
Both male and female should seek to build value and solve problems. Acknowledge a sole Creator and live according to their holy book to the best of their ability.
I’m not saying women can’t be problem solvers or have utility value, but generally speaking there is much less need for them to have user traits than men. A man is judged almost exclusively on his ability to problem-solve and have utility. If a man doesn’t have these things, his odds of finding a woman who is willing to pass on his bloodline is severely reduced. Women by and large can get by with their beauty and charm. They’re still more than capable of having utility and problem-solving, but the cost for them not having it is much less than it is for men.
I agree we should all seek a sole creator and unite under the banner of spirituality though.
Monotheism isn't great either. Painting the spiritual as black&white, good and evil, is incredibly small-minded and childish. Many things exist in the realms beyond what mankind can conceive, and they are just as morally grey and complex as we are.
@@jaredschmidt8013 This is where I have to solemnly disagree with your premise. What you and many other men still don't seem to get is that the economic landscape of today is a lot more expansive and diverse. In basic terms; women no longer need men for money or resources. Never in the history of man kind has their been a time where women could, for the most part, live independently from a man for her survival. Women are seeking men for other reasons now. Namely good genetics for their offspring
@@itachi_blvckitachi_blvck-jq6pf Also romance, feeling loved, having an attractive companion to share life with - are pretty high on most women's list. By "attractive" I mean the deeper chemistry men and women can feel.
It's good that women don't have do depend on men for money; gold digging was a bigger problem in the past when women HAD to find a man to support her and the kids.
@@jaredschmidt8013 Thanks for the post. Throughout history, both men and women have problem solved and have contributed to family and community by building value for others. This ability is not gender centered. Both must contribute 100%/100%. Divorce is 50%/50%.
Roles and responsibilities can be diverse and each relationship can determine who does what but make no mistake, money needs to be earned, beds made, dishes washed, car oil changed, etc. That has to be done through communication, ability and agreement. That’s initially the struggle; who does what? That’s why faiths are so important; you don’t have to reinvent the wheel per se. Those who came before you suffered similar struggles and we can learn from them how they made it through.
As a young man, I'm done listening to topics about this. Nothing will change on the short term. The current generation of women have accepted sexual promiscuity, and modern dating is a hazard.
Better for a regular man to focus his attention and prioritize on the pursuit of success. The chances of finding a "good" woman are slim to none. Let modern women enjoy the choices they've made
It could be said the same for men. As a 27 year old virgin compare to others in my family and friends group even just society I notice these women who show off more find multiple partners but I can’t even find one. They say more men are becoming conservative but I’m struggling to see it. the good ones(men and women) are too far and in between. I personally keep my head down and go about my day.
@stacy-annmorgan6685 If you haven't seen a "good" man within your environment, that just tells me you're in the wrong neighborhood.
Most women only flock to the top percentile man, while the majority of men who are willing to be a "good" husband aren't given the opportunity or are just used.
@ I actually pay good money to live in a good neighbourhood. I go to church and see no young men. Only the big churches have these weak men in it. Nobody knows how to meet these days. I attempted to date for the first time the guy saying he was a Christian turned around and was ready to call me a liar. I left.
@@stacy-annmorgan6685 I don't know your exact situation, but you and I might have different meanings for what a "good" man is.
If you're paying good money to be in an organization to look for a partner, I would assume you're also looking for a top percentile man.
I wish you luck.
@ no it’s a small church we don’t pay to be there. Took me a long time to find a church that was biblical sound. I’m not rich I just choose to actually pay good money not to live in the ghetto.
Dr. Peterson, thank you for uploading this conversations to your RUclips channel, knowing very well you can charge for these videos. As a youth director for a nonprofit organization, these topics are extremely relevant to the issues we face in our communities in south Texas (specifically border towns).
Marylin acted out the anima all the time. She lacked power in her own life so her power drive was became empowered when she realized she could seduce men by acting out the anima. This is destructive to both men and herself. Marylin wanted men to be at her feet due to her own sense of inferiority, but remained unhappy because no one loves Norma Jean, but loves Marylin Monroe. Men love her image but not her, so she ends up being quite lonely underneath.
It's not just about looks in Marylin's case, but during that time period time the blonde bombshell was the social expectation of beauty. Now when a man projects his feminine image onto a another human being this is a project of his "anima". Many men projected the anima onto Marylin. This is why Monroe could "turn on" Marylin or keep it "turned off" and stay Norma Jean. Anima projection is often associated with love at first sight or the instantaneous feeling of a crush. She became the collective anima projection for many men who saw the culmination of their mother and the mother archetype (a collective unconscious archetype as powerful as the hero).
Spot on!
Watch Doctor K's video called "A perspective on female loneliness". He reads a comment of a woman who tells her story. She says she's very pretty and that a lot of men get attracted to her appearance, but she feels lonely cause men just want her for her looks. She even said that one man she dated for a couple of months told her that he was with her only because of her looks when she broke up with him (cause she noticed it wasn't working and that he was not actually in love with her). Pretty women are very lonely, cause they are seen as pure objects that men want to use. The same happened with Marilyn.
@@ingrid5944I think it starts with people being attracted to each other and builds from their if they each have an authentic personality.
@@ingrid5944 If you let yourself be used, that's your fault.
Men don't want women that have been had by other men.
If you don't want to be used, you demand a ring before you give anything up at all.
@@BetaBuxDelux That's how you become beta bux.
She'll feign attraction.
Let’s be honest gotta give Trump credit he is not even in power yet and he brought down HOEFLATION in a week
Care to inform me?
@@TheOlzee I think he was talking about the 4B movement
No woman wants you, Trump-in-office or not. Cope.
@@TheOlzeeblue haired liberals have decreed no sex while trump is in office.
Which is hilarious, simply because if they had that sense of discipline, abortion wouldn’t have been their primary concern regarding voting 😂rights
You are going to have to explain your axiom and how Trump supernaturally did this. As far I see Trump is your god not Jesus.
Poor Norma Jean.
She so desperately wanted to be loved and adored...and people took advantage of that.
That's onlyfans girls today, sadly
she was BPD. She did what she did because she could not work a job, NOR could she obey any of her 3 husbands. People took advantage of her BPD and she destroyed all the men who loved her. Ask Joe.
SHe si not poor, she is an adult woman who can make her own decisions.
are women empowered or not??.... you can not be empowered and then a poor victim at the same time.
most women chose that, they are not victims they are just experiencing the result of their actions.
She was a very smart woman that was only seen by her looks. She wanted attention, and she was smart, so she got it from one perspective, the perspective of beauty. But she was not emotionally intelligent, unfortunately. She was used till she was dead. I wish I could find her and talk to her and give her a big hug! She had a lovely soul! She just wanted to be loved and to have a loving husband and a family 😢
@@ingrid5944 She had 3 husbands. She disposed of all of them. 2 of them never stopped loving her.
From deep inside the stupid camp, I’d like to thank you Dr Peterson, for making explicit statements. It’s what most men want and, among the more stupid, myself included, it’s what we need.
Why are you trying to prove to us that you are stupid?
Don’t forget the intense competition among some women to attract attention from a desirable male. It’s like selling a product but they don’t know it. And sadly, some drop out of the competition all together because they feel they can’t compete. It’s all so twisted.
When I think about the punk rock chicks I knew 45 years ago, I would argue that many know they are competing. They called their make up, war paint.
And yes it is twisted.
That's life. Surviving and thriving in life is all about what you can offer to others for the best arrangement. Our beauty, our bodies, our youth, our intelligence are all tools to hopefully help us survive in this vast, cruel world.
@@proudatheist2042 Justice will be served based on how we use those tools.
@@proudatheist2042Yep. Well said. Everyone these days wants/thinks life is some Disney movie but that’s not reality
Unfortunately many people are exploited by others. Women for their physical attributes, men for their emotional attributes.
If I had photos of my body circulated that didn't make me a cent but made me beloved and desired by the opposite sex, I might not mind so much.
Having my emotions exploited for the thrill of attention and ego boost by others leaving me not with everlasting iconic status but just a broken heart wouldn't be my preferred option.
3:35 With all due respect to everyone, we are way too focused on men who consensually use women for casual sex. It's not good, but that obsession makes no sense when we simultaneously utterly fail to address far worse instances of female sexual predation. Female teachers who statutorily grape their minor students face a fraction of the punishment a man would. Women who lie about using birth control to deceive a man into getting her pregnant still profit by getting full child support awards. Then there's the completely ignored problem of paternity fraud. This is all sexual predatory behavior, and of a far worse character than hook-up culture because it does far more damage to the victim than leaving them feeling used. These things have real, often decades long impact on the victim; and yet we do virtually nothing about it. Maybe once we've started taking female sexual predation seriously, and punishing it according to its seriousness, we can go back to clutching our pearls over folks who were merely made to feel icky for a day or two.
In the way of “innocent and mature” Marilyn is similar to Michael Jackson
In a culture where women can have social protection, economic means etc. Dr. Peterson's theory doesn't wash. It is personal vulnerability that causes the issue and not external forces. Lack of character in other words.
Culture and social norms significantly shapes character .
I think the idea behind his 'Economic Theory' is that historically that is how culture has developed so far. It's pretty recent in human history where we have economic and social protections.
Like all the girls who wanted to look like Angelina Jolie. Octmom ect. Now girls want to look like the Kardashians or Cardi B ect.
In marriage the emotional intimacy is more important than the
fashion stuff.
like when she knows what kind of food he likes, what music or art h elikes, what vaction he likes,
who he is inside of his head, not just outside looks.
How can she love amn if she doesnt know who he is in his own head, what music he likes etc
the ordinary stuff are to ordinary in emotional intimacy
man probably also has similar feelings
he doesnt fall just with her looks but what she likes, what books she likes, what music , art , food etc.
Because if thjey dont share these ordinary stuff, they may feel like they are married to a robot.
You can love a man without knowing a thing about him.
The more you know him, the less you will love him.
Men, stay guarded.
I think this is for a certain kind of person. I don't care if my partner knows what kind of food I like. I need a mind mate...someone with an intellect that can keep up with mine and has its own original ideas. There's a lot of individuality in what people need in a partner.
@@saintsword23 If you're a man, your mind-mate will be another man.
You will not find a woman that is both able to keep up with you and wishes to be loyal to you.
I've kind of stopped listening to Louise Perry ever since she said that she got "The Ick" while listening to men talking about their problems in "The Red Pill" documentary in her podcast episode with Cassie Jaye.
The Parasite just wants blood.
I think it was Triggernomotry that had an excellent video on the sexual revolution.
I always find it noteworthy when top down feminists like the Perry advocate for traditional marriage and the nuclear family but not the changing of laws that savaged both. She never speaks to the impossible position men find themselves in with modern relationships and the financial, legal and societal realities that accompany them. I view her sanctimonious twaddle with extreme caution. Her rather dramatic feigning of empathy is up there with Amanda Knox.
excellent. I agree. She does not want to change the laws at all.
They want it both ways... as they always did.
The feminists are upset that men are catching up and they don't get married like they used to.
Frankly, I'm amazed that such people have their views regarding traditional marriage, maintain their ideology, and have no clue that said ideology is counter to the family.
They want to eat their cake and have it. If you listen to Mona Charon's Aspen Institute talk, she tells you 2nd Wave was anti-family. If you hear of Charles Fourier and look at his sentiments, you realize the anti-family issue goes to before the 1848 Seneca Falls Convention.
Some want to keep something that undermines society on such a level that demographics are undermined across the board in first world areas and those approaching first world status.
@allisterwhitehead. I find it typical of modern men, that you only care about men. Does that mean modern men are gay? with how they hate women and sympathize with men? Your sanctimonious twaddle is a lot like P Diddy.
I'm 26 and STILL waiting until marriage, the world respexts but does not appreciate this kind of patience and dedication. Men and women are lost and regardless of the pain it costs me I will not engage in the 'let's see how it goes' mentality.
The sexual revolution has been something that I've given some thought to. Particularly when it comes to our society and it's attitude towards sex. One could say the sexual revolution was a good thing, where society breaking free from theological tyranny, yet others are saying it's bad because it was the beginning of a more debauched society and the breakdown of the western civilization.
Could it be this promiscuous attitude that may have normalised today's single parenting?
This has been something I've wondered about when noticing a lot of the people similar age to me and grew up with in the 90's were raised in a single parent household and their dysfunction. Then having this discussion with my own parents and them saying that it was looked down on or pittied, through a tragic loss, when they were growing up in the 70's.
But then you have many of these single parents once had a partner and for some reason their relationship broke down. Which brings me to ask, what is wrong with the fairy tale happy ever after when it comes to finding that someone and settling down with kids at an early age?
Look around at people in general. Most of them are dysfunctional, weren't raised all that well, and have psychological problems. A lot of people are selfish and hard to get along with.
Happy long term relationships require mentally stability and 2 people who are kind and giving. That's not most our society.
I knew a couple married 20 years or more who would gaze into each other's eyes and act like they were just starting to date. They were also very kind people with unusually good character.
Not condoning what happened: Marilyn was paid by the photographer for the photos and did the shoot because she needed money. Leaving the photographer to do with them what he will.
Marilyn Monroe was also a famous comedian, and we love her still. Amazingly, she rose from great hardship. RIP.
Jordan I love you but you really need to let the other person in the room speak.😮
NO HE IS THE GENIUS POP OFF
This is a short clip, only showing part of the video so we don't see the full interview with the other woman having her say.
No chance that will ever happen
Like Hugh Hefner he despises , he’s blind to his own hubris and egomania.
No chance that will ever happen
Like Hugh Hefner he despises , he’s blind to his own hubris and egomania.
JP loves hearing his own voice.
No need to agree. Opening minds to re-boot thinking is not a bad thing. Brilliant deep thought is not to be feared.
People want to take advantage. That’s the problem. When people see a girl/woman like Marylyn they could think “something’s not right here, maybe she’s been abused or is unsafe somehow” but instead that sort of Satan gets inside them and they think about how they can profit from it, exploit it, etc. They go to satisfying desires of the flesh. She has a sort of appeal where she’s a glamorous/famous girl, but at the same time would fight for the underdog, because of her tough background. And that’s basically where Hollywood ends and pornography begins, where they have desirable girls who seem even more available, more desperate, etc. (and perhaps more abused, more helpless) and consumers begin to care less about the actual person in the movie.
Hollywood and pornography also push the corruption of innocence in a sense, but they don’t actually portray this directly. Instead they make the adults seem more young, or make the young seem more like adults. Making them more bonded to the adult figures than would be typical of a normal life. Even characters like Annie, from that classic movie. She seems a bit more adult than a girl in that sort of vulnerable situation would be in real life.
The problem is, a vulnerable girl is wife material.
A vulnerable girl that's had lots of men is not.
Once you go down that path, being used is all you're good for.
Blaming men for the behavior of women
How paternalistic
Specifically I never understood the intense attractiveness of Monroe.
That’s because you’re gay.
me neither but oh well.
For the epoch she was and I can see why nowadays we have more access to images
Things were extremely different pre-Internet.
@@SwaeTech
I'll not saying she was unattractive, just not over the top. The whole "cutesie" naivety with the cover girl looks would actually turn a reasonably intelligent guy with scruples off. Just my opinion.
Brilliantly done 🎉
I’m in my 50s and divorced after a long marriage. Fit and have decent but not crazy money.
I feel like the German machine gunners in opening of Saving Private Ryan mowing down SoFl MILFs
They are all divorced and had ton of money to have the front porch redone and abs etched in
All MAGA
It’s beautiful
Thank you feminists
I go on dating apps, find a hottie, smile because I know I have at least a 75% chance of sleeping with the hottie for a month or two and moving on
How would the predatory sexual nature of homosexual cruising and homosexual promiscuity tie into anti-social personality disorder?
Anyone else puzzled by how this is an interview but Jordan speaks pretty much the whole time on the interviewees subject matter?
Its really interesting that all this discourse assumes that the over 8 billion people in the world want to live their lives the same which is so fascinating also the double standards are equally interesting.
I think JBP brings on guests just so he can lecture to them. I hear more of him than I do the guests.
"Oldest boy at the frat party" LOL
Predatory, parasiticaly seeking relationships is the best description that I've heard.
Jordan person going off! Golden era media and X-men assemble!
2:27 Would've been awesome to overdub with that karate 'woosh woosh' sound.
I am impressed with Dr. Peterson’s Christian Nietschean unique perspective. But I do find his mostly unequivocal embrace of Elon Musk a bit odd - he’s among the most successful males on the planet and (predictably) lives as a functional polygynist, as a tribal chieftain would have in years past. I realize that he prefers Mr Musk to weak people who don’t have his options - he is still a polygynist.
The only real problem with polygamy is if it becomes widespread in society. The occasional billionaire doing it doesn't change much.
She looks like that actress that was in xmen first class and neighbors
Rose byrn
Who is the guest?
Louise Perry. Author of 'the case against the sexual revolution'. This was one of JP's interviews where he didn't let the guest speak very much...
Dr Peterson, you're wrong about Holly Madison, who was one of Hugh Hefner's "bimbos". She's clearly really smart. Read her book. Furthermore, Hefner never met Marilyn Monroe (aka Norma Jean) in person.
JP: talking dictionary
(JP: Gesticulating codex)
Love the video
Bro, that suit is sharp AF. Secondly, that mix of young and mature appeal of M. Monroe, is scarily like one of my ex's
The price is the slow collapse of what goes into creating and maintaining what lies beneath the foundation of human society itself, irregardless of the civilization.
It caused our population to decline.
Listen to sick beats while delivering sick speech 🎧
The majority of my post 30 girlfriends have had herpes. I'm done.
DUNN
you had 30????😂😂😂... um...maybe stop sleeping around...also pick better ew
HUH?? Where are you meeting these chicks?
@@PermanentHigh west coast lib city
What do you mean ‘had’, you can’t get rid of herpes. Get yourself checked.
Marilyn’s given name was Norma Jean Baker.
Norma JEAN, not Norma Rae.
Norma Mortenson, Jeane was her middle name. Norma Rae is a movie.
Are "girls without fathers" who hit puberty one year earlier predominantly of African heritage?
I understand that (on average of course) people of African ancestry sexually mature earlier than Europeans.
On Marilyn's "childlike" presentation and early sexual maturity.
I believe puberty can signal the end of growth, height.
Do those who mature earlier retain childish features other than short stature?
Marilyn was Norma Jean Baker. Sally Field was Norma Rae!
Hugh = Hugh Hefner, I believe.
Is Trump a narcissist Jordan? If so, my next and more important question is: is he a malignant narcissist? And who is he malignant to?
Well, "Yea".....but the people who voted for him don't care. Most of them can't even spell 'narcissist', let-alone understand why it might be bad in leadership.
I'm not Jordan, but I can give you my answer.
No.
Trump sits and listens to other people's grief and that is how he wins.
If you listen to Trump speak, he praises others far more than himself.
Marilyn Monroe was born Norma Jeane Mortenson 7:50
On this topic, Peterson really ought to give a shout out or interview to E MICHAEL JONES.
But we all know he won’t, and why he won’t. 😑
Looking back almost 60 years to my teenage years, I was only interested in the short term strategy. All of the “cool” kids were skilled at this and revered for it. Fortunately I wasn’t emotionally or psychologically adept at it. But I can see that had I been, it would have been very easy to slip into Machiavellian patterns of behavior due to immaturity. I would guess that this was the case for so many others. Today’s social media pandemic that teens are enmeshed in serves the same master. So many of my students display hard core narcissistic traits; it’s a scary direction they are going in. There’s no mechanism to limit how far they go down that hole in the ground.
Expansion can turn into repulsion.
Was Marilyn desperate or greedy? Vain?
Unloved.
@@apebass2215 Love is for virgin women.
Why cant people just ride the eunich revolution? We just got to admit it sometimes that not many of us should have children and the world will be a better place.
Norma Jean was her given names.
Sounds like the parasitic manipulator, resembles the entire mainstream culture of the last 10-15 years.
And most young women, might have adapted this kind of strategy as a result, to some extent.
Also, this change seems to have largely resulted in widespread distrust of social systems, and distrust of culture in general.
In much the same way, that distrust results from mistreatment of individuals, by individual bad actors, at the microcosmic level of interrelationships.
💯 it also doesn’t help they most women are whores now so dudes simply don’t care to have relations with them beyond sexual ones. So, I disagree with Jordan here in that men have dark tetrad when they sleep around for fun since he’s not mentioning that it’s common sense to not want relations with hoes lol
Who is this beautiful woman??
Marilyn Monroe and Hugh Hefner are both buried in the Corridor of MCorridor of Memories section of Pierce Brothers Westwood Village Memorial Park and Mortuary in Los Angeles, California:
Marilyn Monroe
Buried in her final resting place in the cemetery
Hugh Hefner
Buried in a single-space mausoleum crypt to the immediate left of Monroe's
Hefner purchased the crypt in 1992 for $75,000. He was buried there in 2017 at the age of 91. Hefner once said, "Spending eternity next to Marilyn is an opportunity too sweet to pass up".
In March 2024, the crypt was put up for auction as part of a sale of Hefner's and Monroe's belongings. The crypt sold for over $150,000. The auction also included other items, such as:
Monroe's first Playboy magazine cover from 1953
Hefner's burgundy smoking jacket and silk pajamas
An orange-hued Elizabeth Arden lipstick owned by Monroe in the 1960s
A gown that Monroe wore during the production of “The Seven Year Itch”
The Corridor of Memories is often visited by fans from around the world, who leave lipstick kisses on the crypts.
Tell the millions upon millions of single fathers that the woman bears the greater cost of reproduction.
Oh my god
The comic books and not the city haha
Damit would someone adress these CELL TOWERS not and when you see the abomination of desolation set up as the wholy place / governance. How do you so!ve the pressures not adressing vice!
I always feel the need to hate on this B word.
I'll have to look up and confirm that findng of "girls without father reach puberty 1 year earlier than her peers", but that is a significant evidence for pair bonding in humans being the default. If pair bonding doesn't occur, i.e. the male simply mate and leave, this mechanism would not have evolved.
You mistake men are mindless, instinctual driven animals. Maybe you are just describing yourself. Every boy/man has both reason and free will. You can choose to act like an animal or to act like a Christian. You should like the former.
God wants me to understand this but its so uncomfortable to listen to
What group of people pushed this on society?
fun
10 minute interview and the guest speaks like 30 seconds.
Not a 10 minute interview. 10 minute clip from a longer interview.
Same ratio for the rest of the interview. He does that constantly @@TheCompleteGuitarist
@davidventura83 who cares. He is part of the conversation. If you dont like it, go elsewhere!
@@TheCompleteGuitarist I'm free to have an opinion. Your wife's boyfriend probably agrees with me... You must be one of those "white losers for Harris"
Norma Jean.
chinese social credit score?! what a joke
I just love the amazing and beautiful landscape of a gorgeous womans body. I've travelled many places and seen amazing sights and breathtaking scenes but nothing compares to the naked body of a beautiful woman. I am happily married and do not cheat on my wife. As a younger man i have absolutely no regret about the wonderful times i spent with women and the vivid memories i hold. Their beauty and passion made my life great..
Depends on what you mean by “pursue”.
Let’s say you go out to meet someone and the whole time they’re trying to jump you. You try to have a convo and it’s inanity and innuendo that isn’t even clever. But since they’re hot and just tossing themselves out there you take the test drive.
Where would that scenario fall if it happens too many times to count?
I mean, it’s not your pursuit but it results in the short term and anyone looking from the outside would assume the worst.
What’s the alternative? Give up? Abstain?
What exactly would be considered “mutual support” in ALL of those scenarios? What happens when you get bored with “strange” in all of its variations?
What do you do when you see what “they” are doing to all the women?
Seriously, you should watch some of “hoe-math” videos…he draws pictures lol
Here’s the thing, it isn’t even the 2000’s anymore. These chics are shaving their heads over an election ffs. They are not alright.
Y’all want to bump up the population you need the POTENTIAL for a stable relationship because chics don’t even know what they want.
Certainly not stability; that doesn’t cost $1m/yr…
Freaking pirates man…what is it with chics and pirates?
"No." Is a whole sentence.
Girls throws herself at you? "No, thank you."
The end.
If they can't figure out how to make things worse, they'll have to be brought to heel again.
The sexual revolution etc was wholly bad, anything that might be seen as good in it not belonging to it
Short-term mating strategies only work if you don't have a future to look forward to, and this could to be due to a lack of hope, as well as a fundamental lack of self-love, there is hope for the future and you do have value as a human being, there is a light at the end of the tunnel, even if you stuck in the abyss.
Silly video.
Imagine the cost of not having had a sexual revolution.
No cost. Just earnings
@@thecrow4597 I wouldn't want to go back to a society in which it's not normal to have a girlfriend as a teenager, to live together as a couple in young adulthood and college and to be consensually romantically involved with whoever one wants.
@@misterx3188you really are better off without those things
@misterx3188 sounds like you've been reading propaganda. My grandparents for example pursued each other freely, even against their parents wishes for one set, dated as teenagers, and got married of their own accord.
The cost of the revolution is the lives of innocent humans, dseases, single parent homes, fatherlessness, etc.
We are not ment to have many many partners, family is foundational.
Children need their parents together in a stable environment.
Select a partner and marry them, stay committed to them.
Half wrong Mr. Peterson
Actually, as I watch more of this video, Jordan is more than half wrong on this
I've lived like a king under the sexual revolution.
I'm not going back.
Sure you can enjoy it... But if it wasn't for condoms your behavior would result in a man filled with syphilis, gonorrhea, HIV, herpes... And legions of single mothers and fatherless children.
Which is exactly what's happening. So it's not a "success" it's more like what's causing civilization collapse.
Sure you can enjoy it...
But if it wasn't for condoms your behavior and psychology would have resulted in a man full of syphilis, gonorrhea, herpes, HIV... Legions of single mothers, fatherless children and civilization problems.
Which is exactly what's happening. So it's not a "successful" strategy.
Just to note that casual sex is always better than being an incel.
No, that is the wish of someone who is an incel. There is no "need" for sex, you would not die without it. Sex is best preserved for an lifelong intimate relationship. One can live a happy and fulfilled life without sex. Life without loving relationships is where people fail. And a loving relationship does not have to be a sexual one. Family and friends can be equally as loving.
Nope. Volcel over meaningless sex.
I think your statement depends on if you're a man, a woman, and your personality.
They are the same thing. Both have sinful intentions one of just burning with the resentment of not realizing his desire. Incel is actually better because you arent hurting another person as well. They are flip sides of the same hedonic coin. The only two non ruinous life paths are voluntary celibacy or marriage.
Na I've been with 13 women, I now wish I could go back.
She wasn't exploited she chose that lifestyle
GOD FORGOT TO GIVE WOMEN A SEX DRIVE; HE SCREWED UP BIG TIME.
Women are not supposed to have a high sex drive. They're supposed to stay at home and take care of their children and relatives.
Women don’t have a sex drive? You’re not fooling anybody
It picks its moments, but its definitely there.