The Epidemic of Mental Illness in Metal
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- In Episode 12 of #50YearsofHeavyMetal, @grahamwire speaks about #mentalhealth and how rock and metal musicians have addressed the forgotten epidemic through music.
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If we took mental health seriously, we would say that people like Chester died following a long and courageous battle with depression.
Agreed
and chris cornell too :(
Absolutely. Imagine fighting against your own mind every minute of the day for years on end. Chester tried everything. He did therapy, took medication, tried drugs and shared his thoughts through writing and singing. Even after all of that, it was still too much for him. That is no way cowardly.
@@generichuman2044 The sense that he went to join Chris, who he felt truly understood, has stuck with me. Not to take away from any of the other assorted weights pulling him down no matter what he did to try and slip their grasp on him.
Amen. Suicide is not only a symptom but it's also a solution, seemingly, the last and only one left for a desperately ill person. That person ended their life most likely hating themself amongst other horrible thoughts, what a horrible way to take your last concious breaths..
The worst kind of war is the one you wage against yourself.
Then just go in a dark room and find yourself
because no matter who wins you lose
@@Antonjlavey i've been finding myself in my inner dark room for 20 years, and only these days a therapist told me what i was supposed to look for
Sort to say I was looking for me, kept finding me, the bad was still there. I was supposed to find about the "darkness" of the room. Me finding me did not count.
S, my advice, sufferers should see a professional. Alone one only despairs.
My war, you're one of them, you say, that you're my friend but you're one of them
Society always taught us that money doesn’t buy happiness, but the second a celebrity takes their own life they are mocked. Chester Bennington’s music helped me through dark times all my life, and when someone who helped you through all that couldn’t go on it seems even more daunting for you. I can’t understand why people don’t take mental health more seriously. The brain is a vital organ no different than your heart.
I'm not into Liken Park but I do feel for people with his loss.
Man I feel you I was the same with Chris Cornell
Yes everyone needs to be coddled and babied day in/day out like sorry everyone is different, some people are beyond gone and all this sudden caring about "mental health" is giving me mental health problems. If people wanted to actually solve this type of thing they would have already but some of these so called mental health problems are either incurable or systematically put in place. Oh yeah and its fucking art, so many have some form of mental health it is apart of how the art shapes. Can't baby everyone forever but that's exactly what organizations are trying to do pushing this all the time.
Because now peolple just care about likes. They think that if they have a lot of likes, means they have been listened and that's it, but no, the problem is still there and likes do nothing. Fighting does
Money DOES buy happiness. The claim that it doesn't is such a load of BS. We live in a world where your options and your worth are defined almost purely by money. With money you can have freedom, health, good nutrition, comfortable living for you and yours, fun & games, travel & experiences, you can avoid all kinds of misery, etc. etc. - freedom and happiness It's not a 100% cure for unhappiness, but it's at least a 98% one.
People at school once stole my sweater, making me walk around in a t-shirt, revealing my arms, with scars and cuts. People laughed at me, told me I was an attention seeker, they told me I should just do it instead of searching for attention. I almost did that day, but here I am, having therapy, trying to get better. So if you read this and you feel like ending it all, please, talk to someone, find a different solution. Because if I did what I did what I wanted to do that day, I wouldn't have a boyfriend rn, I wouldn't have the friends I made after that, I wouldn't play in a theater show I really wanted to do, I wouldn't be.
❤
Suicide is always sad, because there is always tomorrow, always people who love you, care for you. It is great you are still around! You are there for you and the people who care for you and matter. The people who laughed at you and didn't care, well, they probably don't care about themselves. Good on you, and I hope your life is filled with many wonderful things. I was bullied in school, I am glad I stuck around. I see my bullies around, and they don't live great lives. It is funny looking at them now because they aren't anything to write home about. There is so much out there.
@@MrNancy1968 thank you so much!
I’m very glad you made it through such difficult times. It makes me sad to know that instead of helping you, people mocked you and even encouraged a clearly suffering person to commit suicide. I believe strongly that the compassion and love given away freely is the most important gift we can give others. I hope you’ve recovered and find strength in your past suffering. You are clearly a resilient person, so good for you. Be well.
@@pinkmonkeybird2644 thank you so muchh
Chris Cornell was my hero. Soundgarden was my introduction to heavier music. To hear my hero had taken his life, I felt as though I hit a brick wall at 200 miles per hour. He had so much more to give the world. He will live on in the hearts of his family, friends, and fans. Can't believe it's been almost three years.
Same for me with Chester Bennington!
u born yesterday
Cornell hit me hardest. I remember watching a live recording of their final show before he hanged himself, and woke up about 5 hours later reading a headline stating he died, which hit hard, only to hit harder when it was later announced as a suicde.
@@blucu001 I was supposed to be at that concert. My dad thought that that would be a great first concert for me. We just missed getting the tickets though.
Maynard Frith Chris Cornell Dying is what got me into studying the Pizza Gate scandal.
"Who cares if someone's light goes out, in the sky of a million stars?
It flickers, flickers.
Who cares if someone's time runs out, if a moment is all we are?
We're quicker, quicker.
Who cares if one more light goes out?
Well, I do."
-Linkin Park, One More Light
I remember listening to this the day I heard about Chester's passing. It felt like something he wished someone would say to him and the people out there who were also struggling to find the will to live.
Still does whenever I hear it now.
Rest in peace, Chester.
One More Light made me cry. Not just the song, but the whole album. Chester was my hero. It crushed me to hear that he had died.
@@karalarson7552 same here it Heavy really messed me up as it described my life to a tee.
As a metal head with PTSD and acute anxiety, I completely concur. The BIG problem is that mental illness is only seen in music and entertainment as a cash cow. That’s why “teenage angst” became popular in the 1990s and “emo” in the 2000s. I hate the terms “teen angst” and “emo” now because the music industry is comically minimizing, invalidating, and making fun of serious emotional and mental anguish anyone can feel at ANY AGE. Music is a great way to deal with emotional and mental trauma, but the American entertainment industries by and large seek to both normalize and monetize it. That is the other part of this crisis that needs to be addressed.
very true
Yes! That's why people don't like Billie Eilish because they say she's making mental illness "trendy". It's not a trend. So many people struggle with mental illness and I'm glad younger people have someone who isn't willing to sugar-coat their own sadness. It's nice to have a musician that helps you not feel alone, and since she's pretty mainstream, it may help the stigma around mental illness.
@reesemalo as someone who’s dealt with acute schzo affective disorder type bipolar for many years it hurts to see this stuff almost like glamorized. It’s a constant struggle keeping your head above water when your mind acts like your worse enemy. Thank goodness for music. It’s always been everything to me. The types of music are mood pending. People scratch their heads when I tell them I can fall asleep to bands like Slayer yet they can’t stand the in your face power it projects whenever I’d play stuff around them. It’s just comforting to me...
@@Emergi I never considered Linkin Park emo there more of a Nu metal band. Not that I'm into Nu metal. But I respect them anyhow.
@@mr.nobodyfromnowhere4246 same here, my anxiety is so bad I don't sleep much and can't take naps. The only way I can take a nap is falling asleep to loud heavy metal because it's so relaxing, like it's the only thing that really relaxes me enough that I can sleep for a few minutes during the day. And other people completely don't get it.
"They're rich so they don't have to worry" it's like saying that if a rich person gets cancer and doesn't treat it, they'll be fine because they're rich
They will be... Wuts ur point?
@@sarahoshea9603 if a rich guy gets cancer and doesn't treat it he has the same chances of dying from it that I would have. He wouldn't be fine because he's rich because cancer doesn't give a fuck about money.
Agree, but... Rich people have access to high quality doctors and medication, so they have a chance to beat cancer. Poor people don't, and they suffer and die in horrible conditions. Same goes for mental illness. I know a lot of people who suffer from depression and who simply can't afford therapy and/or drugs. I don't know how it works in USA or Europe, perhaps there you can get help for free, but in my country (Russia) psychotherapy is luxury. You have to have a good job, and many depressed people don't have any at all.
@@McCabre Nope. Here (France) we have a social security Americans can only dream of (I have diabetes, in the "greatest country in the world", I'd be dead), but not for mental illness. I know, I've been fighting depression all my life and hope to finally afford to get treated. Though I hope I'll visit you incredible country and see firsthand its rich, wonderful culture before I reach that great writer's workshop in the sky !
Coronavirus has been the best thing to happen to Loudwire, these little mini-documentaries are high quality, and heartfelt with this host.
You can have everything and anything in the world, but still have nothing.
@Total Sweet Yes. The ultimate dichotomy of life.
I'm stealing this for a future song im writing lol
It took me 20 minutes to digest this comment. One of those, lines that some people may claim is shallow or 2-dimensional. But if you’ve been there you get it.
Sincerely, Thank you.
@@calystavelvet5526 - No problem.
@@jacobpream6356 - No problem. I'm glad you liked it. Thank you.
I feel Grunge was such a hard hit genre of mental illness, there was so much going on with Layne, Chris, and Kurt. Not so sure about Eddie, but.
Mars Incognita grunge's a tribute to depression
Heroin was a big factor in that
Did grunge get hit with it or come from it?
@Danny Dircio Buzzo(as well as Dale) is comfortingly well adjusted. He's always been cynical and just a fan of music. Melvins never hit it "big", at least not for any length of time. They're workhorses, blue collar guys doing the job. Mental illness is probably very much a factor in bands seeking fame, but those bands don't seem to last 30 years. It's not a judgement, just an observation. Cornell hit me harder than I expected. FWIW, he'd had some alcoholism in his past. An example of two wildly different front men.
Before grunge, it came in the form of veiled metaphors. Grunge ripped away those trappings of delicate words like a band-aid for all the world to see.
“A lot of little victories, make for big trophy collections”. I’ve never heard that expression before. That’s a great sentiment!
Graham, let me just say one thing:
Wow. Just wow.
That‘s one of the scant few videos that make feel kinda proud to be a metalhead. I seriously doubt I’ll ever see a vid like this in any of the other communities I’m a member of. Thoughtful & on point. Great. Fucking. Job.
Possibly the best video he’s ever put out. Hands down
A quick, related, personal story from a musician (myself):
In July of 2018, I saw Foo Fighters in concert. I went with my girlfriend (whose real name I will not disclose. But, for convenience's sake, I'm going to call her Suzie) and her mom. The show was absolutely fantastic. If you ever get the chance to see them, you absolutely should. I really enjoyed their performance.
After the concert, as we were walking to the car, I started feeling an anxiety attack slowly seeping up. When we got in the car and were on the highway going home, Suzie notices that something clearly isn't right with me. She asks what's wrong, and I told her that I didn't know. I just started crying for no distinguishable reason.
Now, she KNEW that I had mental health problems, and there were many instances of her saying stuff like "Why can't you just stop feeling like that?" thinking that she was helping. Then there were also many other times where she would get pissed at me for being depressed. In this instance, it was the latter example. She made it seem like it was about her and got annoyed saying things like "You wouldn't be upset if you were with your friends." This made me cry even harder because out of every single person on the planet, I wanted her to support me the most. She made me even more upset because she didn't know how much more I cared about her than my friends (which was a huge mistake).
I went to many psychologists and even got medication to help me control my outbreaks. But she still did not truly know how to support me and make me feel better. A few months later, we both decided to go to the same college as music majors. I didn't explicitly make this decision because she was going there too; I already wanted a music degree from that school, and she did too. Soon, she started developing the same depressive, anxiety-related emotions that I had. I decided to do the thing that she never did and comfort or distract her. I never once put her down for it because I knew what it was like. Looking back, maybe her mental health got really bad as a karma-acting way of revenge for the way she treated my depression.
Shortly after winter break, I decided to break up with her. I felt that a relationship with two people who were both giant mental wrecks just was not healthy for us. This sent me into a deep depressive spiral that was so bad that I dropped out of college and spent a week in the mental health ward at the hospital.
I haven't communicated with her at all since a year ago. So I have no idea how she is doing now. I don't know if she has changed into a more considerate person, or if she is still as self-centered as she was during our relationship. But I have had many thoughts of her since then both good and bad. The good being the little things that made me love her to begin with (talking about music, acting childish and weird, teaching her how to play Pokemon). The bad being all the times that she has been self-centered and wanting me to never even mention the name of any other person I know and hang out with. But no matter if they are good or bad, they are constantly there.
This is what happens to people when their mental health isn't taken seriously. I can tell you this as someone who has gone through this shit first-hand.
People do not truly know what it is like to wish you had the energy to do stuff as simple as getting out of bed. It isn't laziness; it's depression. The only people who can truly understand what that's like are people who have experienced it, such as myself.
There are those who completely dismiss it as just a lot of sadness and say stuff like, "Can't you just... not be depressed?" If it was that easy, it would have already been done.
Those people think your mental health and suicidal thoughts are selfish. But that just makes the mental health of the person WAY worse.
TO THOSE WHO KNOW SOMEONE STRUGGLING WITH MENTAL HEALTH:
It is your job to be there for them, and to never criticize them for it. All you have to do is be there for them if they want to talk and rant on about how they are feeling. It is as simple as making them feel needed (not just simply telling them that they are). Take time to be one-on-one with them doing something they like. Maybe go with them to a concert, play a video-game, or watch a movie. If you are going to do this with other people in the mix, make sure that they also understand everything I said above as well as making them not feel like a third wheel. Once they feel like a third wheel, they'll start saying stuff like, "It's okay. I am not needed. The world doesn't need me here."
TO THOSE WHO ARE PERSONALLY STRUGGLING WITH THEIR OWN MENTAL HEALTH:
You are not alone by a HUGE number. A massive number of people in the world are/have dealt with the same shit you are going through, even if it isn't on the same level. The biggest mistake you can make as a struggling person is not reaching out and asking for help. Tell your family, or someone close to you that you trust wholeheartedly about what you are feeling and that you want to feel better. If they really love you and care about your well-being, they will help you find the resources you need. They can sit and talk, they can help make you an appointment with a therapist, and, in extreme situations, bring you to the hospital if necessary.
Since this is a rock/metal news page, I'm gonna close off with some lyrics reflecting what I have said:
"In these moments of loss and torment
When the vast skies don't seem to call to you
When the weight of this world bears down
And the stars have fallen like tears
I am with you always,
From the darkness of night until the morning
I am with you always,
From life until death takes me"
("Always" by Killswitch Engage)
Dude, that must have sucked. I’m glad you got out of it. I’m slowly trying to get better too, hopefully it will happen soon.
It’s a light case of depression (I still want to do stuff, I still feel alright around my friends, etc...) but when I’m alone with my thoughts, it’s all black for now.
Thank you for telling your story man.
Loud love !
That's fine and dandy, but if in the end, you find out nobody gives a sh*t ? I don't remember who saids "If you laugh, the world will laugh with you. If you cry, you'll cry all alone"…
I really like the Foo Fighters song "In Times Like These"
Hang in there ✊🏻
so your own mental health DOESN'T make you self centered?
Rip all those who have fallen to this terrible disease
Diseases*
They chose to fall to it
With some help from Captain Trips, he’ll bring the world down to his knees.
AMONG THE LIVING
@@MrAntiFarLeft At the state of commiting suicide becasue of the disease, you're not yourself at all. The sickness has completely taken over your body. All actions come from the disease from that point on. You can't choose to not have mental health issues and you can't choose to fall to it.
@@byerken rubbish.
Metal was actually just everyone coming together
The truth about mental health is that it can be worse for people who do have “a lot”: the person suffers even more because they feel guilty about feeling the way they do when they are better off than so many others. It’s insidious, disturbing and difficult to deal with no matter who you are. We all face issues that are the product of our settings, but they aren’t “rated”. At least that’s how I feel sometimes.
Yes and this mentality even affects people who don't have a lot. I'm lower class and constantly feel guilty because I don't have it worse.
agreed. mental health can be like having a heroin addiction, without ever having to take any sort of drug ever in your life. constant mental/cognitive hell and stress. mental healthcare should be taken far, far more seriously.
There’s nothing quite like walking by a stranger you think is much less lucky/privileged in life than you, but who seems way happier and more secure.
@SkyVenomZero been there man... But remember you matter. Everyone matters. And everyone deserves to get help no matter what the issue is.
Hello my name is Tyler Hufnagel I have depression, anxiety, and social anxiety and I would just like to say thank you for what you said at the end just before watching this I had a breakdown and was having severe suicidal thoughts but after hearing you say what you said it made me feel a little bit better just hearing someone say that it helps it really does. So thank you I genuinely mean that from the bottom of my heart.
Keep on going, Tyler. Those of us who aren't going through their best moments in life are suffering greatly now even more cause of quarantine. We just have to hold on tight and wait for one of the darkest clouds to pass.
Best of wishes to you.
Keep going man push hard and never give up you will make it man. I believe in you brother much love ❤️
Hang in there, mate !
Keep going, my man 🤘. You always have a home in the rock and metalhead community!
I wear the semi colon on my arm, for you,. for me, for all of us who suffer to remind us all that we are not alone. That's the greatest tragedy of mental illness: that we thing we're alone. I can't do much but be in the crowd holding the sign saying "You've got this". I just pray its enough.
Depression is the pure darkness that devours the light in our hearts
Oh so deep wow
@Crohn Same thing.
@Crohn most of your serotonin is actually derived in the gut... check it out, we be tripping about mental illness all along. Body = mind...
It's also a sign that you're doing something wrong and need to change.
So I am now being assessed for Schizophrenia, that my psychiatrist, following 3 episodes of psychosis, believes is probable. I am leaving an early stage of the pathogenesis, pathological origins, of the illness and I believe that the premorbid Schizophrenia is a pure darkness that devours the light in our heart. Not just depression. I was trapped, being blamed for making my parent's life difficult. Symptoms include a lack of academic, career, and social life. For 14 years, I just watched the world go by. I did not have the cognitive capability to interact with it. I was shut off. No one seemed to care. As I said my parents blamed me for my experience, which is ironic, as their behavior may of been the stressor. In the beginning, I was told to be more like Robin Williams, I couldn't be funny. Then around a decade later, I was told I was too intense. People were scared of me. They got they wanted, I hardened, but they didn't seem to like it. It seems quite indecisive. But what do you expect? In tribal communities, if you do not contribute, then you are removed from the tribe. My mental illness, Schizophrenia, means I have had a significantly difficult time for a long period of time. I couldn't contribute to the group. So I was removed. I believe it is about time, that the more socially recognised illnesses like depression and anxiety, recognise their fortunate position, and start being concerned about people who suffer with other illnesses. I don't know if you segregate yourself from us true crazies. I don't really care. But there are many more mental illnesses than anxiety and Depression, and PTSD. But those ones are the ones that seem to always be talked about. We only get talked about when some one shoots up a school, or other atrocity. We are the scapegoat society uses, to hide from it's own failings.
“Remember everyday you make it through is another little victory and a lot of little victory’s make big trophy collections” ......that’s genius
What people don’t realise is that anxiety and depression aren’t emotions they’re diseases, that’s why they’re called mental health problems
Music has helped me through many hard times in my life, it makes me feel like I’m not alone and that someone is always listening and understands and I guarantee that if it wasn’t for metal I wouldn’t still be here today
It's because you're a strong person
Some people couldn't made it through even with the help of metal
What's a disease is all these fake ass corporations and pretentious shallow RUclipsrs being pseudoactivists for "mental health" to make themselves seem like good people.
I’ve only listened to them for a year and just found out today that Davis has Depression and takes Prozac just like me. Even before I knew that, I’ve always vibed with Korn’s music. Now I know why. With Disturbed, that band helped me with my frustrations with depression in highschool.
I weigh more without clothes Depression is also an emotion. Also and illness with many variations
I can attest to everything Graham said at the end. Getting out the other side of depression really changes your view of the world. In some odd way, you're reborn. You re-learn what it means to live and interact with those around you.
I'm still struggling to reach that point, mate, but I'm sure you're right…
You know what draws me to metal, hardcore, punk, etc? There's a side to mental illness that even advocates won't talk about, but more extreme music does- the more aggressive side. Irrational hatred, loathing, paranoia and so on. I mean, self directed hatred, that's easy and safe. It's easy to be sympathetic to someone who feels sad. But someone who is lashing out at everyone and everything is just an asshole, right? But, think about it for just a second- ever known someone with a mental illness who didn't lash out irrationally, at least from time to time? Ever consider that might be suffering from mental illness just as much as someone who is filled with self loathing? That it might be the same thing? So, now, name me the way we treat that side- incarceration, usually. So- yeah, if we're going to talk about mental illness and extreme music- why not mention the one thing that it's got on everything else- the cathartic release of the more aggressive side of mental illness....
Any therapist or counselor worth listening to will instantly know that people that lash out only do so because they're in pain.
This is a well known way to easily identify someone with mental issues.
No one creates pain unless they are IN pain.
Also to touch on your other point, for many people exercise also acts as a release for anger the same way that metal music does. I know I get the same rush of negativity leaving my body when I work-out as when I listen to my favourite metal.
So even people that dislike metal can still get that same cathartic rush of releasing pain with vigorous exercise or dancing or even yoga.
Bonus points if you listen to metal while working out!!
When Chester died a piece of me died with him.
This is heavy. I suffer from depression, anxiety, and PTSD from cancer treatment. This hits hard.
Dennis Anderson I’m very sorry to hear that. 😥
Dennis Treatment is Tough but your Tougher. 💛💛
Many Blessings my Friend🔥🖤🔥
I have the same diagnosis that you, but the important thing is that we know about our conditions, we are aware of them and therefore we have the option to do something about them. We have to fight every day, there are bad days but there are also good ones. That why metal is so important to me, it reminds me to keep fighting.
Keep your head up! :) Greets from Estonia.
Great that Metal exists, it's one of the ways people can stay in balance. It's a kind of art where you can kick your demons out.
Glad to know the awareness through metal community, also a point added to our perception before judging others
I have Asperger’s syndrome and suffer from things like social awkwardness, anxiety, OCD, sensory overload, etc, and it definitely makes life much harder. Thanks for speaking out for us who suffer in silence.
I understand your pain you suffer. I suffer the samething in additional I have CPTSD and recovering heroin addict.
I have depression and anxiety. Also several/ severe health problems. I have lived my life mostly in isolation/quarantine. Which most of the world is experiencing right now. I also have to wear face mask when I go out which isn't often. All I want to say is when this is over remember there are people who this will continue for. Now people understand why I am in therapy.
It is still hard to imagine this being permanent. Also watching everyone else carry on "normally". I have it too, but it is from not speaking up. Best of luck.
I know how you feel with the anxiety and depression.
Sorry you have other issues along with them also.
This quarantine thing is tough for everyone... but even more so for people who were already isolated from others for other reasons before covid.
Thank you for making this point.
I hope things get better for you.
Hi Sherry I do hope you manage to conquer your terrible affliction and health issues - really hard to shake that negative force but I have a few tips that may help if you want me to share. I have only just beaten my dark shadow (therapy for me was nothing other than identifying causes) and although some triggers will always come back I can control and deny them and even eliminate them. I do hope your health improves and wish you kind thoughts.
Chester unfortunately passed way on my 17th birthday a few years ago, and ever since it's been so hard for me to listen to Linkin Park. Chester and the band helped me get through my anxiety and poor self esteem while I was in highschool. I was devastated to hear the news that he had passed away due to mental illness. It's been hard trying to listen to their music after he died, not just because it was on my birthday, but because of how much I had admired him. Talking even just seeing someone to speak about what's going on (whatever it may be) is SO important. The longer we bottle up our demons, the more they torment us and the more we suffer. Rest in Peace Chester, you will always live on in our hearts...you are the reason why I am the person who I am today. Thank you
I deal with Severe depressive disorder, Bipolar 2, PTSD, and severe anxiety disorder. I have anxiety attacks so bad that I’ll stop breathing for minutes. The only thing that can bring me out of my attacks is metal. Specifically Slipknot. I’ve always related to the pain and suffering in Corey’s lyrics. My wife has a playlist that she plays for me during those times. If it wasn’t for metal I’d be dead. End the stigma. 🤘🏽💪🏽🖤🖤🖤
Seeing Corey say that he has manic depression made me cry. Cause i have that too and it is BS, but he seems to be such an outstanding human being, i could have never guessed he is fighting the same brain battles i am. Thank you for putting this video up.
i have it too
No loud wire upload complete without Corey's perspective
there is a video out there, of cory talking to a therapist. It's the most beautiful and heartbreaking thing I ever watched. He talks about his disorder in a little more detail there
This was an incredible in depth look at mental illness with metal as an example. I have my own problems and I'm sure people with problems like mine appreciate this.
Turn to God he'll help you with your depression and listen to some more positive music not depressing metal
@@tomcampbell5186 derpy derpy doo
@@tomcampbell5186 Well, talking to Jehova is never a mistake. Yet, listening to metal helps you confronting the reality and at the same time, you hide youself a little bit. Please think about your statement again.
Metal. Is. NOT. Always. Depressing.
It helps an amount of people to get through a tough time. And some do connect religion and metal, like Dave Mustaine. You need more proof? --> www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/top-10-rockers-who-found-god-20985/jermaine-jackson-240821/
Thank you for reading, have a nice day, stay metal and healthy, volks!
Celine Gloeckner like look at hatebreed for instance they don’t exactly talk about death and destruction but the main message is more of a you can do it don’t give up you will do it in their own metal way
I remember when Chris died. I was 13 and me and my dad, who introduced me to Soundgarden, were sitting in the car and we heard it on the radio and I was so sad because I loved Chris and his work. We miss you buddy 💖
I meet a girl that suffered from anxiety according to her, she was pretty “normal” but I started to listen her struggles to concentrate in exams, cry in middle of the night and sleep at whatever hour and her stories of her childhood, I liked her a lot for her personality and really fell in love for her but suddenly it started to get over me and I went insane trying to figure out how to get in her heart over all that bullshit she had in her head. I almost destroyed my college's season cuz I was freaking out. Mental illness is so bad it makes you treat people like shit unintentionally, and is contagious, one person being ill can make the ones around go insane as well...we don’t talk anymore but I will never stop loving her and hope the best till we meet again.
"…and a lot of little victories, make for big trophy collections."
NIce ending Graham 💚🏆🙌
I know this might sound weird but even the tiniest of reference by Peter about his self-loathing, depression and all around hurting ..............hits me in the bull's eye. During the worst of times, when I am at my lowest it helps to know you are not at fault and it happens to everyone. Some days, it's hard beyond words.
Peter was a gift
Metal has literally helped me through most (if not every) mental issue I’ve ever had. This music saves lives. Unfortunately, those who are busy making this therapy aren’t taking care of themselves.
You really nailed it. Thanks a lot.
I was in therapy when I was 17 due to a very traumatic childhood. Some therapist made me learn playing the guitar because i wouldn't talk. I still play to this day. Its 20 years now and i've left all that stuff behind me. I do talk know havent felt depressed for a loooong time. I am actually feeling really satisfied know.
So hang in there people and fight. It is possible to win.
The thing about mental illness and the misunderstanding of it is, most people who haven't been through it can't understand it.
We'll be able to take it seriously when we have a society that takes it seriously and actually provides support and health care access to people.
Even though things have theoretically improved, we're still getting the opposite message from society in every single way... unless you're a celebrity, then people at least pretend to care about you when you die. But all those promises and hotlines and shit many people post when someone dies are just that, social media displays, shallow, empty, and hypocritical.
It's definitely not just a metal problem, the entire system is fucked. The beliefs people still largely cling to are fucked. Music, metal, just happens to be a very popular outlet for what mainstream society still can't accept. And they will probably never accept that it doesn't just "go away," no matter what you do and how far you get. Fixing all of this depends on fixing a broken society that doesn't want to be fixed. It wants you to work, medicate, and even be imprisoned.
Preach! Pisses me off, honestly!
Thank You! So TRUE.
Thank you for this. I am a mental health survivor and a metalhead. I love you ❤️ for bringing this issue out in light.
RIP to all that lost their battle with themselves. Those who couldn't see their own light while being a beacon of it, hope & resolve that it will get better. I've said this before & meant it, Chester & Linkin Park saved my life, with their music & lyrics. So many relatable words and the concept of it getting better. It is disease & there is no cure, and it's a scary, dark abyss of being trapped in your own mind.
Watching this in the psych ward... this video helped me so much the ending is so beautiful I cried at the end... thank you so much for the support
Be well, friend \m/
The very idea that suicide is cowardly is stupid. It would take a level of inner strength and inner despair that most wouldn't be able to comprehend (RIP Keith Flint)
Don't glamourise suicide. It is cowardly, a strong person endures suffering.
I don't see surrender as brave or strong
No one is glamorizing it...it's a horrible illness just like any other, it needs treatment or will usually lead to death
@@SIGSEGV1337 nobody glamorises suicide. There is nothing amazing about suffering every day, taking drugs or feeling your own body and mind fight against you. Don't confuse someone defending a person's choice with glamorising
@@devodavis6747 do you know what is strong? It's someone like Chester Bennington living for more than 20 years whilst fighting against his own mind everyday. It's him pulling himself out of drug addiction. It's him living a relatively normal life after suffering abuse as a child. It's him using his own experiences to help others through his writing and singing. If his life had been the same but his pain was physical because of an immune disease, people like you would never call him cowardly
I love the analogy you used when describing mental health issues.
Thank you so much for doing this video highlighting mental illness.
I lost my nephew to suicide 18months ago. A loving dad with a great job and family.
It came totally out of the blue. On talking to other family and his friends tho a clearer picture began to emerge.
Individual small things didn’t ring alarm bells at the time.
Putting all these individual incidents together tho showed it was obvious he was struggling.
He always came across as a happy go lucky loving dad and husband so we had no cause to think he was so close to the edge.
Im 54, I’ve suffered from depression and anxiety all my adult life. I’ve had counciling many times when things get too much. I practice meditation and self hypnosis. I also take medication for both anxiety and depression.
I have periods when I’m ok, I cope with life, work, family fine but I also have periods when I can’t cope and feel I’m drowning in a sea of anxiety and bad thoughts.
It’s a horrible illness which should be treated like any other illness but sadly in some places still has a stigma attached to it.
Things are improving greatly tho and mental health is more and more being accepted and treated in the same way as physical or physiological illnesses.
Again- thank you so much for this vlog, I hope it and others like it will help those people who are suffering atm and encourage them to seek help.
Much love from scotland 🤗💕🏴
Thank you for this 🙏
Thank you for being an advocate for greater compassion, and for reminding us all to find the beauty along the way.
Dark times and different minds are a source of humanities undiscovered beauty.
Keep loving, art comrade ✊💜
As someone who has struggled with depression and continues to, music is such an important outlet. Thank you so much for making this video!!!!
"sometimes darkness, can show you the light"
Compliments on your video addressing this serious topic. Mental illness is a killer, a tormentor and a liar. It never stops imposing itself and knits itself into every fibre of your being. I have the double whammy of Autism and several mental illnesses. Unfortunately, I'm pretty much terminal. Thank goodness for people like yourself talking openly and honestly about this still taboo subject. Lastly, thank goodness for the metal, it's gives so many people suffering the strength to do "one more day".
i just wanted to add "Life of Agony" as an inspirational band that is not holding back on issues involving mental problems that are among us.
This was really beautiful, especially towards the end. I’ve struggled with mental illness since I was a kid, and metal music has always been a place for me to cope. It’s always been an escape, a comfort, and a place where I feel understood (hearing angry lyrics from someone you feel understands is worth much more than empty pretty words from someone who doesn’t). I’m happy I have metal in my life.
Metal actually saved my life and helped me get on my feet... I remember I was 15 years old and I was really depressed... Because most of my friends were leaving me... They didn't want to talk to me anymore... and my parents were also pressuring me because of almost low grades... I was going mad... Until one day I discovered cemetery gates by Pantera which one of my coolest and awesome friends recommended me this song and I was very impressed... To me metal always gave me calmness and showed me hidden truths that I wouldn't learn in school...
One of the biggest reasons I love the genre. The music is seriously relatable in so many ways and it's easy to connect to.
Rip artists and people in metal who have died due to mental illness for those who do have mental illness I don’t have it and I have no idea what it s like but never give up keep fighting and you will eventually find greatness and hope everybody is doing well and is staying safe and happy they are coming up with a cure for this we are close to the end
Whenever I go long periods of time without listening to metal (we’re talking a few days here) I notice a huge difference in my mood. Metal helps me cope. It’s a security blanket. It’s cathartic (love the machine head song with that title). I didn’t always know why I gravitated towards it all those years ago, but now I understand it was because I was suffering and didn’t know why.
Bruh I'm crying wtf
That speech was beautiful I'm legit in tears
Hahahahahaha
Metal/hard rock has been my 'therapy' for so many years. It's not only a therapeutic outlet for me - it's also like seeing family when I go to live concerts. It pains me to see and know that members of my 'family' may be suffering as I have been through many years of battling depression myself. I now work in the mental health field trying to support others struggling with their own mental health issues. It is absolutely imperative that we support each other and assist with helping ones in need to find the extra support and services that are out there. Never let go of the hope...no matter how small and distant it seems. Stay safe, stay connected and never hesitate to ask for help if you need it.
The conversation regarding mental health needs to continue, it effects us all. How many of us metal fans or not are feeling shitty during this lockdown?
Talking about it and knowing that there's more people being through what you're passing, it's conforting. Thanks for the video. Metal didn't saved my life, but it definitely changed it. \m/
Very important video. Thank you.
One of my favorite metal/rock lines is from Lay Me Down by Crossfade.
It may be kinda on the nose, but it sums up depression in a nutshell.
"I don't wanna die, I just don't wanna be alive."
This is a powerful commentary. So many have experienced depression/anxiety chronically or acutely. To tell someone to toughen up or to insinuate they are weak is to perhaps place the last straw on an individual. I have learned and shared with others that nothing good and nothing bad lasts forever. Enjoy the good times, but that soon shall pass. Don’t be beaten up by the bad; you knew it was coming. Embrace the bad and ride out the storm!! We know something good is coming!! 🤘🏻🎸
Guys don’t confuse sadness with depression. Depression is sadness without any reason , sadness is when you have a reason to be sad
Depression is not feeling anything. Not even sadness.
I think that if you feel sad, there is still some hope for you, because you can still feel something.
The moment you stop feeling at all, is the moment the countdown begins.
@@Sphereal one of the symptoms is changing mood, you might feel sad without any reason, or you might even feel happy. The worst in it is the constant frustration, feeling the pressure all the time...
Yeah I say I’m depressed sometimes but really I’m just down that day and it goes away if I do something fun.
Alexander To me that’s the most frustrating part. I have an extremely cause and effect mind-set, so when it’s hard, it’s always frustrating because I know I have nothing to be depressed about. So why the F am I always feeling I have a cloud over me? I constantly asked my self that in highschool, but it just made me angrier that the answer to that question was that it was just depression.
But you could be sad for ever. If the reason would never be tell. And you feel reject and everyone forget you.
Thank you for making an informative and useful video. We all suffer, but no one has to do it alone. Thank you.
"MORE OF ME. & BE LESS LIKE YOU."
-Chester Bennington, "Numb"
Applauding you for using this platform to spread awareness. Respect brother!
Uau, really profund. When I was young I suffered from depression, and its true, no money, approvall or any that superficial things will make any difference because when depressed the world just looks completly different. I remember feel alone even being sorrounded by lots of people.
And then you listen other people not taking it seriously. The way that i went out of it? First, chemical inbalance. I started to eat healthy and exercise, altought I wanted to stay bed all day. Exercise and healthy food helps brain recover from thechemical inbalance.
Psychological? You really have to talk with someone (contact a doctor please) and being completely, i repeat, completely open. Its frightening but it makes much better that self loathing and is actualy what makes you wake from that state. Everytime you put what you think out, you relax, believe me.
Also at first just try to survive day by day, like a drug addict does to let drugs. If you are felling really, really, really bad, at first just try to survive day by day.
I end this comment by telling you that is possible to recover and being able to deal with low points much better. And much more important, contact a doctor and tell everything. Really everything you feel.
Thank you for that, I have not had depression but if I do I will remember this
I can confirm. In age of 12 I had lost my will to life. I'm 18 now and I love my life, although it is still shitty.
Yes, you can recover.
Yes, you can love a shitty life.
@Lil Syko to see if does good to your health? Do you think drugs are doing good to your health?
@@magdachlebicka3895 I would not say love a shitty live, that is like saying lovind depression. Accepting an then walking to a good life
@@hugoantunesartwithblender antidepressants are drugs too. I stopped using them last autumn after many years, I quit smoking pot 2 months ago. Sometimes it's fucking hard, especially that the media is feeding us with bad news all the time, and in the age of internet you can't really avoid it. To see leaders of the world make idiotic decisions over and over, and that we aren't moving forward but rather in cycles. We live in a stressed out society and I see this as a root cause of most mental illness nowadays. The small things are what keep me alive: having family, my dogs etc.
You spoke some real shit there man. I have BPD and Manic Depression and you really hit the nail on the head here. It's a real thing, but it's so easy to brush off and say "just get over it" or "that's not a real problem". These people wouldn't last a day in our shoes man. Each day you press on and survive is a new victory. Each day you don't let those demons get the best of you is another day won. I am going to share this on my Facebook and I hope that by doing that, I can maybe at least reach one more person. Mental Health is no joke. The pain you can feel inside on them dark days can be some of the worst pain you'll ever feel. I hate how people think it's made up. It's not fair😢 but to all those that who have a mental illness and you come to this video, please remember that it is a real thing and never EVER let anyone try to tell you otherwise.
Layne Staley expresses my thoughts
I miss Chester Bennington very very much, because way before the dark days of 2017, I’ve known Linkin Park for so long, and I haven’t realized myself that I’ve been so touched strongly because both Chester and LP have inspired me so much more. Chester is the reason why I enjoyed music so much and the reason why I wanted to uplift my life and maybe even helping people too. The truth is that I’ve never heard or even realized about mental health really until that dark days comes on July 2017. I’ve always dreaming of one of these days that I’ll get a chance to meet LP for their future tour or even any of those tour. But when that day comes, it shatters so many pieces on the floor and it hard for me to stop cry on the inside of how much I miss Chester and picked up some pieces left. Days/months go by, I’m trying to learn myself of how could I learn of be a bit positive as I can, until when Linkin Park had performed in Hollywood Bowl, it changed my whole life. Not just as amazing show, but it also helped me to open up way more of my feelings and learned to help each other. Even Chester’s wife Talinda Bennington had introduced the program to help many people who dealt with depression or mental illness. Therefore, I began to do some research and understand of what is Mental Health really is. I do wanna say thank to Talinda for helping me understand what is mental health is. I miss Chester very much, which it’s why I’ll always to hold on to his memory to honor him, support Chester’s family, friends, and his wife Talinda, and always helped as many people who needed help. If there’s anyone who dealt with depression or mental illness, just wanna let you know that you’re not alone, we’re all here together. And most importantly be proud of who you are and never be ashamed of what you’ve been going through.
A psychologist once said that mental illness and artistic talent are very close enough to trigger them both off together, I hope I have explained that right, the more talented they are the more likely they are to want to end it all! Everyone uses drugs to numb thoughts and past experiences that you don’t want to remember or if you life sucks through no fault of your own etc. Asking for help is not a weakness people please talk about stuff and get help!💞🙏🏻✝️😘🤘💕🤪💞✝️😘😘🤘
Beautifully said 💚
EllenJ .A But True!
Before Chesters death, I knew about death, had depression, knew pain...But after his death I realized we really don't have any control. We just live well and wait for our turn, whether it's good or bad.
Who would've thought smashing drugs and alcohol with reckless abandon for years would have negative effects.
Correlation does not equate causation
Addiction is the symptom of mental illness, not the cause. Carrie Fisher was bipolar, but had no idea for years, due to her self medicating with alcohol. Getting sober shows what people were dealing with, so they can get the right help.
@@Neenerella333 Carrie Fisher did more stuff than alcohol tho. Cocaine... which is actually nice stuff if it weren't so expensive and illegal.
Throughout my life. Metal has always given voice to the rage I have had to hold in in a time when mental health was an enigma.
There should be a band called Metal Illness.
or a song, kinda like Quiet Riot's Metal Health
@@NightsidePoet a charity promoted by metal bands would be awesome
Eh, they’d never be taken seriously.
Linkin Park has that title
@@lordtrigon1733 lol yeah you can't put your genre in the name. Too gimmicky.
Ive been goin through it lately due to this pandemic. (i suffer from major anxiety and ocd) Ive lost my way from music and completely forgot about how much it has freed me. Just hearing what you said at the end of the video made me break down. Its something i really needed to hear. God bless and thank you
Please no more epidemics. We have enough going on right now
I could write paragraphs detailing my own struggles with depression and making comparisons. But all I really want to say is thank you for this video, and if ANYONE reads this, know you are important. You matter. And you can do great things. Don't let your depression destroy you. Fight like hell and know you are going to get through this.
Let's talk about the REAL REASON behind Cornell and Bennington. Then we can truly get somewhere
Luna Wolf murder
I'm no conspiracy theorist. At first i thought nothing more than tragic suicides, but when i discovered they were on their way to exposing elitist pedophiles it definitely made me wonder what if...? Sad that this angle was completely overlooked as even a remote possibly by the investigators
@@stonyman4062can y'all cut the crap? it's disrespectful to their memory and their loved ones. chester has explicitly spoken about depression and suicide and i'm sorry if it's hard for y'all to believe that it's the case, then i'm sorry for you. i could understand the murder theory around marilyn, but since we're talking about ppl who openly discussed their struggles while they were alive, it's better to stop feeding freaks who come up with the dumbest stories just to get some money out of grief-stricken fans and accept what happened.
Luna Wolf exactly !
@@Crawlingdreams418 and what you are experiencing is Cognitive Dissonance. Take your disrespect and shove it. You clearly have no idea what is happening right under your nose and these sick freaks show you every. single. day. EXACTLY what they do and who they truly are. WAKE UP
This video means a lot man. I can see and feel the passion in your eyes and in your voice.
Well I'm suprised that this isn't about Slipknot
Priceless
But Corey Taylor is still in it!
This is by far the best episode of this series.
Meh everyone is crazy now a days we have put too much emphasis on emotion and intelligence but have actively tried to purge wisdom from our lives and the mind/soul cant cope with that
Some of us have the trifecta. Often times it's easier to just turn your feelings off but, thankfully, I also have my music to turn to. Writing and playing truly is cathartic for me, meaning that in many ways music truly equals life.
Just listen to Fade to Black and you know how i and many others feel.
I have sighns of ptsd my doctor doesn't want to test me for it but it makes me think of my dad lost him at the age of 6 I've seen things a 6 year old should never see or know about I miss my dad he was my best friend and his dad killed himself a year later we were all so close any how every time fade to black plays it just makes me just sit and think just stare at the wall and pretend your happy
@@dylanvogel4503 sorry to hear that.😶😔
@@dylanvogel4503 I have it too, but for a different reason I'd rather not talk about
Talking with someone who is willing to take it seriously and listen, such as a mental health care worker, makes a world difference. This covid shutdown has made contact with my doctor a little more difficult, but I know that when I talk with him somehow, almost magically, it tremendously eases my pain. If you are feeling down dont be afraid to admit vulnerability and seek help. It can save your life so that you can go on to rock another day.
The only problem with this is that the chemical imbalance theory has never been proven and is most likely false
Exactly. If chemical imbalance were the real reason for depression, then adjusting substances that are naturally occurring inside the body by diet or supplement would fix it. As it stands, depression is treated with drugs and chemicals, which either create a mild high, or mask the emotions.
I've recently suffered from mental health issues after years of work related stress and work bullying aimed at me. I spoke to councillors, my GP, my wife and my family and friends and they all thought I was being 'Weak'. I lost my career and now in addition to the Covid issue I have had 8 months out of work with no income and have had to take a £12,000 cut in salary just to get back into work, this had added to my mental health issues. For me there is no answer. If I speak out about it i'm classed as being 'Weak'.
Thanks everyone. So much for this nice world full of people ready to 'Support' someone in need.
I am broken too. That one cheers me up when i hear it. I want to thank Metal for always beeing there and everyone who keeps on playing
In the past I suffered from severe depression and social phobia and Rock and Metal were (and still are) a huge relief for me. They made me feel understood and that I was not the only one in that situation, specially Pink Floyd and Silencer.
I thank you for this episode. I deeply wanna say thank you because its hard for me to cope with the fact i have depression issues and it gets worse everyday watching these videos help me with these issues. Keep rocking
Wow, what an amazing video. I suffer with depression/anxiety and tried to take my own life several times and still battling with it. Now I'm very open about it and have great support both friends/family and clinical. Heavy music has been a massive part of my life since an early age and really helps me through my dark days.
I've been called cowardly and selfish but in your 'broken' mind it's the total opposite as well as your own personal pain you think you're a burden and a pain in the ass to everyone around you so you'd be better off gone.
Lets keep on battling this cruel disease
Mark🤘
Hey man, I wanna give you props for making this video. A lot of peple deal with this and a lot of people are afraid to talk about it or afraid that their friends will think they are being a wuss or whatever. The fact that you made this reaches out to people. My friend and I talk about these issues a lot and a lot since quarantine. Your video definitely struck a nerve and made me cry a bit. Metal and punk rock have always been an outlet for me to channel my anger and emotions and offer a creative outlet for my frustrations with the world. Playing in hardcore bands for years really healped, now it's maintaining a RUclips channel. Cheers man! Stay Metal, Stay Punk!!!
I am a metal head, a bass player and an individual with addiction and mental health issues. This was beautiful and I thank you
Thanks for pointing out the 'bonuses' or pluses that mentalhealth-issues bring. It can really bring hope to the people, and help them realize it's like a blessing in disguise :)
When hearing Chester’s name, tears came in my eyes😕 I actually miss him so much. I hope he’s happy now...
Your video made me cry and gave me a huge dose of hope. Much love , big brother.
It makes sense why drugs and alcohol are turned to. It turns off the mind and allows a moment of ease. Beautiful video man thank you for making it.
Edit: okay I love the ending. Depression and other mental illnesses do have a purpose. For me, when I get too depressed it prompts me to take action and make the changes I need to make. The trick is it can sometimes be too much. Very scary and very sad.
That last little bit at the end made me cry, thanks you Graham.