I like an argument Polyphonic makes: You can argue that metal was invented before Black Sabbath, but you can't argue it was invented after Black Sabbath
@@wileywarfield1863 Exactly. People sleep on Blue Cheer because they have no idea what they are talking about. This video should have talked about Blue Cheer and Iron Butterfly a lot more than they did.
Early examples: Helter Skelter Born To Be Wild In A Gadda-Da-Vida Deep Purple’s first three albums Jimi Hendrix Cream However, Black Sabbath perfected it.
No, early Deep Purple no, their first three albums are Psychedelic Rock and Pop Rock, they weren't even Hard Rock at that time and much less Heavy Metal or even something related, they reached Progressive Rock on the third album at most. They did not begin to make Hard Rock or Heavy Metal until "In Rock", when Black Sabbath was already making their music and as their 3 albums throw something more to a commercial rock, with pop and some psychedelia (similar a bit to The Beatles), I would not say that they are early examples of Metal, they are far from it.
The classical artists that ignored the "ban" on tritones need some credit too. Also, Wagner and Paganini need some credit. Metal was always there, certain people just discovered bits and pieces until it became a finished product.
Heavy Metal: Amongst the Dark satanic mills of post WW2 Britain, a young guitarist labours. The bleak drudgery of working class life interrupted by demonic howls as finger tips sever in a steel press. He picks up the guitar determined not to fail. Agony bleeds through the amp every time he plays. *Now that's an origin story
Sabbath was the first complete heavy metal band. Nobody had total package like Sabbath, the heavy riffs and distortion, blazing solos, pounding drums, heavy bass lines, haunting vocals, lyrical content, attitude, band name and sheer volume. Many bands had some of these elements in place, but Black Sabbath had all those attributes that really make them the founding fathers of Heavy Metal. Priest was the first band to remove any blues from their brand of metal. Priest also introduced twin guitars for a bigger sound and also ramped up the tempo from the plodding heavy tempo that Sabbath is known for. Sabbath started it and Priest refined it. 🤘🏻
Pretty damn accurate! It was not just the heavy riffs, they were dark ominous riffs from Toni down-tuning his guitar to make it easier to play. But you are right. Influence is good but not enough. You need a point of reference where everything came together...No other band was that except black Sabbath. I can trace influence back to Gustav Holst scoring "Mars God of War" or even Niccolo Paganini, or Bach. Everything previous is an influence to what comes next.
@@TheJTcreate Everything you just said is absolutely 100% correct. Influence beget influence which beget influence until Sabbath put it all together and gave birth to metal.
I can't agree more with you two.. just imagine album "black sabbath" from 1970, damn if that's not already metal, I don't know what is... 4 years before Judas Priest was founded
How can Sabbath be complete heavy metal without a heavy metal singer....the first and most influential metal singer is Halford! BS was a hard rock band with bluesy guitars...don't make me laugh! and Ozzy's voice is pop AF
I always cite voodoo chile . Chopping a mountain down with the edge of your hand is heavy . The attitude is there in every aspect of the masterpiece . imo.
Black Sabbath objectively invented heavy metal. Period. May the debate end now. There were plenty of bands that were pushing in that direction, (Led Zeppelin, Iron Butterfly, etc.), but Sabbath were the first to truly cement what it meant. Down-tuned instruments that sound downright sinister, lyrics that scared parents everywhere; this is what set heavy metal apart. Black Sabbath are the O.G.'s of metal.
The INFLUENCE is what makes them the one. No one else captured the entire world like they did. Unless you're able to pick some actual dark metal from old led zeppelin or something.
Wrong. Led Zeppelin wrote/cemented metal with "Communication Breakdown" before Black Sabbath existed. Muted chords is heavy metal. Just because Sabbath fixated on form does not mean they invented it. Cream and Blue Cheer had NO muted E string. The muted E pretty much DEFINES metal. I do not know of ANY song that had the muted E string before it.
Shelley Garman true, but I’m saying that they carried huge influence for the rest of the 70’s and 80’s and influenced a lot of the big great metal bands in the 80’s onwards
Black Sabbath are heavy metal. You have to remember that before Black Sabbath there was no Heavy metal, sure there was proto metal, but no real heavy metal. So he didn't start playing the music he did with the mind set that what he was playing was heavy metal, he was playing with the mind set that what he was playing was rock, because that's all their had been up until that point. And at the end of the day Heavy Metal is just a subgenre of rock and roll anyways, and it's a very fine line between hard rock and heavy metal.
@@Gregbaltzer i would agree Metal is a sub genre of Rock 30-40 years ago now it say its a category next to Rock. Theres no so many different sub genres of metal, its pretty ridiculous (yet i will correctly label bands by the ridiculous sub genres they fall in 🤣)
Heavy metal wasn't invented by a single band. It was a sound that evolved from post-psychedelic hard rock. Definetively, Black Sabbath had a huge influence on this process, as well as Deep Purple, who were also ahead of their time. During the 70s, lots of bands helped to evolve this sound: The Scorpions, UFO, Thin Lizzy, Budgie, Rush, Van Halen, the mighty Queen... even "more traditional" hard rock bands like Aerosmith or AC/DC, as well as the punk/70s hard rock crossover of Motorhead. But, quite probably, the band that has had the most enduring and evident impact in metal culture is Judas Priest. Not only because of their look (some hints of it were already there) but also because most heavy metal clichés crystallized in them: the twin guitars, the palm-muted fast riffs, the high-pitched operatic voice, the heavy metal typical lyrical themes, the heavy metal 'attitude'. We could say they were the definitive metal band, although they build on the influence of older bands like Sabbath.
@@who0icu812 I think they were pretty unique when they came out. And they probably were the biggest step forward into heavy metal at the time. But I find later 70s bands even closer to the classic metal sound.
Blue Cheer released their debut "Vincebus Eruptum" two year before Sabbath's debut while Coven's debut "Witchcraft Destroys Minds & Reaps Souls" was released a year prior to Sabbath's. Not to mention Iron Butterfly's first two albums "Heavy" & "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida" were also released in 1968.
Steppenwolf Santo a metal band and they didn’t play Heavy Metal ... some of their songs were heavy rock ... but I bought their singles when they came out and Sabbath brought a whole new genre ... it helps to have been there and not to have only read about it
It was Black Sabbath. There was heavy music before them and there were bands whose music had qualities that are intrinsic to heavy metal but Black Sabbath was the first band to put it all together.
They had huge success with it, thats why they were pronounced as inventors really. Others just explored that sound on few tracks. But Hendrics is inventor bc he sounded metal before them, it was era of psychodelic rock in bloom so they put him there as Zeppelin but theyre not psychodelic at all...Jimmy Hendrics all the way is inventor
@@vilimbubas1302 Hendrix did not invent heavy metal. He was heavy but his music was more psychedelic blues rock. One of the key elements of heavy metal is dark subject matter. Hendrix's music is overwhelmingly positive - he was a hippy. Sabbath wrote songs about war, addiction, the occult, insanity, etc. - subjects that are generally associated with the genre.
One thing never mentioned are the rockabilly country bands during the 50's that crossed the line into making rock itself. They helped bring the guitar to the forefront and brought excessive drinking and drug use along-from a hard life growing up dirt poor in many cases. '3 chords and the truth' set the tone for what rock became and later metal which incorporated dark imagery to describe the struggle of living.
Metal owes a lot to Screamin' Jay Hawkins. While his music didn't feature heavy distorted guitars or anything else stylistically associatable with Metal - except for the screaming - he was undoubtedly a major pioneer in adding a theatrical dimension to rock'n'roll, as well as exploring themes of the occult in both lyrics and performance.
@@MarkKramKarmVI Led Zeppelin were playing Dazed and Confused live in front of the public before Helter Skelter was recorded. First live Zeppelin public appearance was September 7th 1968. Zeppelin played Dazed and Confused and Communication Breakdown at that gig, so actually the public heard Dazed and Confused first.
@@MarkKramKarmVI Also, as well as debuting Dazed and Confused to the public in Denmark in September 1968, Led Zeppelin did a tour of the UK through October and November 1968 where they played Dazed and Confused every night. The public didn't hear Helter Skelter until November 22nd.
No one invented heavy metal, music evolve naturally, they go more heavy, faster. But after Black Sabbath, people start to follow a path. So, Black Sabbath not invented, but, they show how metal was gonna be after them
Exactly, just listen to a lot of traditional from anywhere and it is heavy AF AND could be argued as the original 'metal' if we wanted to do a bit of time travel! Blues and jazz if anything, inspired rock and as you said, Elvis just made it his own thing by playing it off them and of course they took off what was going on over here too and everywhere!
That's right, invent is a strong word... and we only use it to satiate our petty human schema. It's more like a spectrum or timeline. It builds up over time to form what we recognize as this style of music.
@@anitabonghit7606 No, it evolve, who was the first to make a heavy riff? Bach? Beethoven? When i say it evolve, its because people listen to some music and wanted to make even heavier or faster. Thats why i said, its evolution, because no one was at home listening to Bob Marley and "invented" a heavy metal riff, its was evolving, slowly everyone was making a riff heavier and heavier till we reach at: Blue cheer or Deep Purple and then... BLACK SABBATH
I don't think anyone really invented heavy metal, it's more like an evolution of the living organism that music is but should one band be named as the inventor then Black Sabbath is that band without a shadow of doubt
The Heavy Metal SOUND had EVOLVED over time, but Black Sabbath, Alice Cooper, and Judas Priest are definitely the bands that gave Heavy Metal it's IMAGERY (both lyrical and visual).
I see your point and I'm not trying to be judgmental or sarcastic but if you really want to get down to it and research the subject which you obviously haven't.. how can you not include an artist that was ten years ahead of the Curve his name was Arthur Brown.. he didn't have a super huge popular catalog of hits... but he was doing all of this stuff in 1968.. he was a songwriter vocalist and a lot of his act was as a performance Artist... but look at all of his video taped performances from 1968 and put them side-by-side as to what other artists were doing.. well you be the judge but not mentioning him and I believe he's still performing at the age of like 85... and you have to take into account his biography I mean looking to the person himself not just the performance... it's just an opinion in an observation
The Jimi Hendrix Experience was the first time the words "heavy metal" were used by the British press. "Its like metal falling from the skies" was the way they described it.
Agreed 1000% percent. I always say this when people ask me. They were all around at the same time with Priest following the sound blueprint shortly thereafter. I will say that Sabbath was the heaviest of the 3 though with DP and Led Zep being harder rock.
@@avadakedavra69 that's right. And as far as Deep Purple's heaviest i vote Deep Purple In Rock. Still a monumental classic, perhaps better than Machine Head
I can't find the source of this (paraphrased) quote... but I like the sentiment that "It can be argued that the first instances of "heavy metal" pre-dated Black Sabbath, that the first metal songs came before they released their debut album.... but it can't be argued that it came after"
I'm disappointed The Beatles weren't mentioned,I think the outro to 'I Want You(She's So Heavy)recorded in 1969 was a powerful dark progression that no band has ever been able to touch in my opinion and let's not forget 'Helter Skelter' either released in 1968.
Uriah Heep, Sir Lord Baltimore and Deep Purple all out before Sabbath. Deep Purple In Rock was Purple’s third LP and was harder than Sabbath and came out before Sabbath’s debut LP
I think on that line heavy metal thunder they weren’t thinking about a certain genre that wasn’t created yet because these bands didn’t consider themselves heavy metal that wasn’t even a Music term back then their were heavy and hard rock bands.
Also, The Beatles had a few heavy songs that were a pre-cursor to metal. Then there was The Doors with their sound and the voice of Jim Morrison. Also, the New York Dolls were pretty heavy for their day in the early 70's. Oh and also Alice Cooper.
In my opinion 21st Century Schizoid Man by King Crimson, Helter Skelter, I Want You by The Beatles, Communication Breakdown by Led Zeppelin had big influence in Metal history.
Bartek Mlotkowski agreed, but I saw them several years ago (before they split) and still had mad energy. Anderson and Barr we’re running around like maniacs!
5:25 And let ME stop YOU right there to remind you that Mike Saunders published a review for Humble Pie's As Safe As Yesterday Is in 1970, which was the first point where the term Heavy Metal was used to describe heavy rock music. That was six months before his review of Kingdom Come, which he reviewed in 1971 with the same term.
I'm from Detroit (blow the reveille)! *HEAVY METAL:* Stretching Blues/R&B/Pop/Classical/ (or anything) concepts out to the farthest degree possible. _(Insert 'ominous' here)_ -Loud, plodding drums. -Loud, 12-bar bass bottom. -Loud, 'machismo' vocals trying to reach high. -Loud, thundering crunch-chords that sound *'gargantuan'* & (at the same time) *'dark'* or *'ominous'.* _(insert 'tritone' here)_ -Screeching guitar lead with a _'metallic'_ edge. This 'stretching' creates a desirable sort of 'drone' or 'sludge' quality. *Note:* Some say Heavy Metal is _"defined"_ by the _'muted-E'_ or _'diminished-5ths'_ or the _'required'_ presence of the _'tritone'._ (As a musician) I respect someone trying to break it down to pure musical language. *IMHO:* You get lost in the weeds that way. You forget the 'disaffected-adolescent'/rebel-against-the-established-order'/ *Culture Shock* goals at play. By any means necessary! Kinda like trying to explain R&R. *LYRICS:* Anyone using 'lyrics' to define a genre should take a musical theory course. Do HM lyrics require _Witches?_ _Spaceships?_ _Norse Gods?_ _Mystical stuff?_ _Murder?_ et al? Of course not. Almost any example could probably be found (to some degree) in another genre ('Gimme Shelter', for instance). While I feel there have been some great HM lyricists; *This ain't exactly Dylan/Morrison territory.* fugedaboudit! *TERMINOLOGY:* Tricky. Forget metallurgy, William Burroughs & Steppenwolf. The term 'Heavy' was used in music going back to the '50s. Contrary to popular belief, the term "Heavy Metal" WAS used in the late '60s by Journalists, Radio DJs, & during interviews, if clumsily. I Heard IIt/Used It/ & said it myself. *-* *Lester Bangs* used _"Heavy Metal"_ to describe a Love concert. - (unknown origin) *-* A Hendrix concert was described as _"...Heavy_ _Metal falling from the sky."_ - (unknown origin) *-* (re: Guess Who’s 'Canned Wheat') _“With a_ _fine hit single, ‘Undun,’ behind them, they’re_ _quite refreshing in the wake of all the heavy_ _metal robots of the year past.”_ - (Rolling Stone-Feb.1970-Lester Bangs) *-* _"....Humble Pie is a noisy, unmelodic, heavy_ _metal-leaden shit-rock band, with the loud_ _and noisy parts beyond doubt.”_ - (Rolling Stone-Sept.1970-Mike Saunders) *-* _"....Grand Funk sludge, because Sir Lord_ _Baltimore seems to have down pat most_ _all the best heavy metal tricks in the book."_ - (Creem Magazine-May 1971-Mike Saunders) Not much documentation. But, enough to suggest my 'organic usage' claim is real. As you see, it wasn't very _accurate_ usage. Cream/Blue Cheer/Vanilla Fudge/Iron Butterfly/Led Zeppelin/Deep Purple/Mountain were not referred to as _"Heavy Metal"_ (yet). So, the _'terminology-origin-story'_ begins AND ends with *Lester Bangs.* By 1972-73, Lester (& others who followed his lead) were referring to the: *"Heavy Metal Triumvirate"* (Zep/Sab/Purple). By the time BOC & Priest arrived, the genre was codified. When folks say Black Sabbath was the first *Fully-Formed Heavy Metal* (FFHM); It's usually followed by saying previous bands were: _"Hard Rock",_ or _"Psychedelic Rock",_ or _"Proto-Metal",_ or _"Acid-Rock",_ whatever. Actually, those previous bands had FFHM songs in their repertoire. But, it was just PART of their set. *Black Sabbath* WAS the 1st to make an entire album of Heavy Metal. THAT was their pioneering concept! (ALL Metal) They also played everything in 'Drop-D'. (Again) not the first. But, the first to feature it prominently in ALL songs. Geezer, Tony, or Bill would be the 1st to admit they continued what Cream (& Jimi, & Blu Chr, & Deep Purple, & Led Zep, & Van. Fudge, & Jeff Beck Group, & many others.) had begun. (Ozzie liked _"The Beatles"._ LoL~°) Sabbath also began the process of sifting out the 'blues' aspects (but not entirely). (IMHO) Priest finished THAT job! I submit: Cream: *'Deserted Cities of the Heart'* (1968) Album: *'Live Cream-Vol.2'* (Not 2005 version) This is: *Fully Formed Heavy Metal!* If you still don't hear it; I dunno, man. Peace. Stay Healthy! - Dave B.
@@johnny2badd681 That would be worth considering if a large number of fans who were actually there & dug all the bands mentioned, (incl. *Zep/Sab/Purple* ) had the opinion that Heavy Metal started: Feb.1970. But, that isn't the case. Heck, there's an even younger crowd that believe Heavy Metal began with Priest! So, who you gonna believe?: - _Someone coming of age in the '80s?_ - _Someone coming of age in the '90s?_ - Or, someone who: - was kinda young for the 'Elvis/Berry/Brit Invasion' (but still remembered them). - Came of age in the late '60s/early '70s. - Veered into Funk & Punk. - Dug '80s thrash metal. - & Was still a Hard Rocker thru the '90s? _('2000's: no comment. I started losing touch.)_ Sab's DID play in a Drop D more than most due to Iommi's fingers. I agree that contributed to their unique sound. But, that's a nuanced difference. I'll say one thing about Black Sabbath: Unlike some of the previous bands I mentioned (Vanilla Fudge/Iron Butterfly/some others) The Sabs were PROLIFIC songwriters. They NAILED IT every time. They were GREAT! But, they did not _invent a genre._ There was a lot more than just _'building-blocks'_ when they showed up. It's hard to say when it actually started. It wasn't... _all-of-a-sudden._ *IMHO: It was somewhere between the start of Cream & the start of The Experience.* With some others thrown in for good measure. But, I know there's other (valid) opinions. Funny thing: In 1970, those of us digging the 'Heavy-Metal-Triumvirate' (younger Boomers) were made fun of for listening to 'kiddie-rock'(!?!) Can you imagine? Try another one: *'Mandrake Root'.* - Dave B.
Blue Cheer, Cream, Hendrix, and lots others made hard crunch sludge flats and sharps (tritones, whatever) before 1970. The Heavy Metal Trimumvirant wasnt said until years later. It did refer to Led Zep/B Sab/D Purple (as you said. I was there. Nobody knows Exactly when hm was invented.
@@retlawk.7333 That's the thing. It didn't just happen at one moment. On 1 album. By 1 band. I think the fact that Black Sabbath played ALL Heavy Metal & played in 'Drop-D' causes those 'in-the-now' to look back & see a bigger disconnect between them & what came before than there actually was. There was loud, freaky, scary music before 1970. - Dave B.
Its everyones diff opinions! I think Steppenwolf was Heavy Metal. I think InnaGoddaDaVida was Heavy Metal. I think Blue Cheer was Heavy Metal. Cream and Hendrix were sort of Heavy Metal. But also Hard Rock. You just have one opinion. I do agree it was happening before Sabbath.
Blue Cheer was an American rock band that initially performed and recorded in the late 1960s. Blue cheer invented metal Listen to their song summer time blues
Alexander Hampp sorry Nazareth was all Deep Purple without the keyboards. Roger Glover of Deep Purple actually helped them write Razmanaz and based it on Deep Purple In Rock. He even produced their early albums.
The lyric heavy metal thunder was used in the release of born to be wild in 1968. It was not used at the time to label a style of music but as VH1 once said the term was born with steppenwolf and later adopted to label heavy metal music.
There's so many influences and so many bands artists helped to create it. You can't nail it down on just one band or person it was a progression of sound environment and innovation
Heavy metal saved my life. It was the music for outsiders. It's the constant thing that has always been a part of my life. Sold my soul for rock and roll. It's the bonding experience at a heavy metal show, where you let out your aggressions.🤘🤘🤘🤘metal forever!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes and it's awesome. Saw the series years ago on TV and shortly afterwards came upon the DVD package in a local record store. Instant no-brainer purchase and still watch it from time to time
@@bobair2 You must not know metal very well then. There were sparks of metal before Sabbath, some great heavy rock bands, but Sabbath solidified heavy metal.
Huge props for the Sir Lord Baltimore mention dude! I remember discovering their debut album in my teens via the recommendation of a record-shop "tomb-rider" that was deep into the 60's-70's underground rock scene. I couldn't believe how dark and heavy their sound was that early on: true pioneers!
The Beatles in 1968 came out with Helter Skelter and Revolution, which also used a lot of feedback and distorted sound at certain parts, coupled with Paul's screaming at the start of Revolution was very pre-metal-like. Given their immense popularity at the time, those songs certainly introduced a more grungy, aggressive style of music to some people who may not have been paying much attention to lesser-known bands at the time. This was around the same time we got Blue Cheer's "Summertime Blues", which was very heavy with distortion, and at least a year before the world would hear of a band called Led Zeppelin.
The White album actually had a lot of proto Metal moments that most listeners just zip pass in order to get to Helter Skelter. Glass Onion was dark and creepy as fuck. Then some of the stuff they did a few albums before like Tomorrow never knows were very proto Metal.
Im glad cause that bs of "proto metal" its cause the fanboys wanted to put the beatles in every fucking thing like theyre the ultimate influential band ever existed on the universe
At least for me Helter Skelter is not in that "world", it's more hard rock (just for me, I know it's totally subjective and labels really mean nothing). But having said that, "I Want You (She's So Heavy)" absolutely qualifies for it. Dark, frightening... and absolute masterpiece.
I think it is the drums that make a heavy metal concert unforgettable. Feeling the sound of those double bass drums just rattles your chest and it's amazing.
Look into 70s jazz drummers. An example is Tony Royster Jr (look up 12 year old drum solo). Idk when the video was made but its def influenced by classic jazz drummers. Fyi this is Jay Zs drummer 🙄 Its a straight metal drum solo yet hes says his biggest influences were some jazz drummers. I started doing some light digging and man was i surprised.
"Invented" is not the correct term. Metal was invented by countless artists. Black Sabbath was the first distinguishably Metal band. How we define Metal today is based on the artistic direction of Black Sabbath
Everthing is true,BUT..Black Sabbath is on my opinion first band who not play,,blues note,,tell me..can compare Led Zeppelin with Sabbath,or can compare Deep Purple with Sabbath,simply can't not,excpecially when Dio come in Black Sabbath..others bands continue with own style..but heavy metal..go in totaly diferent direction..in best direction..for milions fans across the world...
@Nemesis 86 Steppenwolf is rock band,with sound of classic rock,dont see..before Black Sabbath all bands play blues rock style..right? When Sabbath come then can hear,,evil sound,,from guitars..Paranoid song,imagine this song played by Led Zeppelin..or some other band..no mate..only with Black Sabbath start era of Heavy Metal..and words in song like,,heavy metal thunder,,is just a try to be,,heavy,,...how heavy when you ( a band) still play only rock..soft rock..oh and not forgot..on end of 60s nobody think to play heavy...SO..Tomy Iommi is first guitarist who start play,,evil,,....
@Nemesis 86 know for that..but why other band not start to play heavy..a??oh maybe nobody want to listen,or heavy is not so mainstream,for me personaly Iron Maiden is heavy metal and in some moment Judas Priest can be,and Black Sabbath...well..only with Dio is heavy metal..before with Ozzy...not much..maybe you and me diferent look about metal..
It's gotta be Hendrix AND Cream. They were both before Sabbath. Hendrix invented the distortion and utilized power chords, Cream took it and amplified the intensity. It was those two bands together learning from each other that combined heavy distortion, power chords and aggressive fast angry rhythms. At least 3 years before Sabbath ever did. I would say the very first metal song was Sunshine of Your Love from 1967. Distorted aggressive guitars, power chords, guitar solo with extended technical pentatonic sections that's more aggression than blues, extended aggressive drum fills, driving tempo and an aggressive sound that isn't rock or blues. Metallica, Sabbath, Megadeth etc. all have some of their biggest hits off the Sunshine of Your Love riff. Hendrix is equally as responsible for the song, his influence can clearly be heard in the solos and in the tone of the guitars. Seriously dudes, go listen to the section at 4:25 of the song. Clapton straight up starts shredding like it's 1985. Everyone talks about the tritone from Sabbath but Clapton is extensively using chromatic out of key notes in the solo for at least a minute combining it with harmonics to create the intense feedback and distortion that started the genre. He's on video from the 60s going "you just take blues, distort it then play it angry, like this..." Those 2 together were the impetus, everybody took the idea of blues being aggressive, loud and angry from them. Before them the distortion had no feedback and was uptempo ragtime like Chuck Berry. Jimmy Page made an entire career playing Chuck Berry solos in the style of Eric Clapton.
@mack5133 I'm from Detroit (blow the reveille)! *Very good explanation!* The theme in these comment sections seems to be: *-* *If you were there;* It's hard to pinpoint. One explanation is as good as the next. And, they're ALL valid! *-* *If you were NOT there;* Comments are much simpler. (& more _'definitive'_ ) That's called _'speaking-to-a-narrative'._ *ROX ON!* - Dave B.
@@melvynobrien6193 Nope. "Blues is a music genre and musical form which was originated in the Deep South of the United States around the 1870s by African-Americans from roots in African musical traditions, African-American work songs, and spirituals." Both evolved from folk music but African's were making music way before anyone else was.
I'm surprised that Pentagram was never even mentioned in this because they were playing what became known as "heavy metal" really early on! They formed around the last couple years of the 60's, which places them around the same time frame as when Sabbath was establishing their sound!! So Pentagram was one of the very first "heavy metal" bands! Maybe they werent before Sabbath but they came pretty damn close and were absolutely around long before many of the other bands who were mentioned, so Pentagram certainly deserves a mention & given some acknowledgement!
I agree with Joel. Early bands like Iron Butterfly and Blue Cheer set the stage for what was to become heavy metal. Music evolves, that is why things change in music and life in general doesn't get stale. First time I heard Sabbath I was blown away, evolution is wonderful.
Highlight of this video : I never heard of High Tide before, so that gave me something new to listen to. Pretty cool! I would call it "almost metal" but it sounds too much like the Doors to quite get there. It's so close to getting there, but to me nothing quite does it like the song "Black Sabbath". That's the first "actual" heavy metal song. Lots of other music was paving the way for it to happen, but that's the first song that actually DID it. Purple, Zeppelin, Cream, Hendrix, Steppenwolf .... none of those quite did it. All were important, but none were actually it.
Its more than having a heavy tone. Its the tritones, the dark theme for the times (which people seem to forget to credit) the look, the aggression, the attitude. Many of these bands had 1 or some of these elements. But sabbath had ALL of them
Take it from someone that was alive back then and witnessed it , it was Iron Butterfly that invented the "heavy" sound, that was 1967 the Kinks had a big hand in it, Led Zeppelin?their first hit was Whole Lotta Love, after that they created the Hard Rock genre refusing to embrace metal. it was Steppenwolf who coined the phrase and it was Tony Iommi and Black Sabbath started it all.
Why is not one person mentioning Dick Dale when it comes to heavy guitar playing? The man invented the guitar amp, practically! They had to re-invent the amp because of Dale; he was literally... shredding them up. Blowing up the amps because of his playing style... and that's not even mentioning how heavy gauge his strings were!
Tony Iommi invented heavy metal riffing, but Jimmy Page invented heavy metal soloing. Look at Dazed and Confused solo, Heartbreaker, Communication Breakdown, Good Times Bad Times, etc...
Lmao. Ritchie Blackmore started Heavy Metal style soloing he sweeps, shred, and tremolo plays. He does 80s shredder thing at his time. Sabbath eventhough their music are dark & evil still on guitar solo very blues oriented.
@@LoePenzz Most of what he does is tremolo picking. You can rarely hear a song where he actually does what we consider to be 'shredding'. Also, when Blackmore did start using 'shredding', it wasn't until 1972, with machine. Btw, you do release that just because someone sweeps and tremolo picks, that doesn't mean they invented metal soloing, right? Jazz musicians had been doing that before the concept of metal was created.
@@Frisbieinstein Well, Jimmy Page came earlier, and metal was based in the blues to start the genre. Sure he would have his songs that were more bluesy, but like I said, Communication Breakdown, Heartbreaker, Dazed and Confused solo, etc...
@@pearsecobb6168 More safe to said instead saying Jimmy Page the blues guy invented Metal, he even refuse for interview on That Metal Show and said he has nothing to do with subgenre later called Heavy Metal. Nope because sweep & tremolo become standar on metal solo style instead Jimmy Page plays blues solo style, I do says the same thing about two handed tapping there's flamenco guitarist has been doing it way before EVH start. You basically a die hard Jimmy Page fanboy.
Earlier bands, like Blue Cheer and Steppenwolf, had some elements that contributed to metal, but were still solidly in the garage band, and psychedelic genres, respectively. Iommi's accident , and his learning to adapt to it to continue playing, with Geezer's lyrics, and yes, borrowing from those who came before, all came together , to create what we know today as metal, with Black Sabbath.
If you're going to mention volume, equipment and amplification, you must mention the King of Surf Guitar, Dick Dale. Together with Leo Fender, he helped develop the very first 100 watt amp. Dale blew up dozens of Fender amps, which Leo gave him to test. Leo struggled to understand what Dale was doing and why he needed so much power. One night, Leo and his assistant, Freddie Tavares attended one of Dale's shows at the Rendezvous Balloom in Newport Beach CA. Dale got himself a permit to play the abandoned Ballroom. In just 4 months, he went from playing for about 20 of his friends at an ice cream parlor to packing a 4,000 person Ballroom with screaming, dancing teens. The crowd noise was deafening. Leo Fender finally understood what Dick Dale was doing with his guitar and why he needed such sustained volume that he was smoking amps every weekend. The result of this relationship was the 1963, 100 watt Fender Dual Showman amp, with two 15 inch speakers. Dale claims that he ruined about 50 Fender amps before Leo finally got it right. Some say that this makes Dick Dale the first Metal guitarist, only with volume and reverb instead of distortion, but I'm guessing there was probably some distortion involved when he blew 50 amps and speakers onstage.
Yes it was, so ???? And it was heavier than Please Please Me for sure, definitely rocking hard but no way close to Black Sabbath's wall of sound heaviness
I've heard this as well. I'm mixed on this theory. I've also heard All Day And All Of The Night by The Kinks in '64 was the beginning. It's all subjective really.
Helter Skelter, arguably a metal song by a non metal band. Just like Stone Cold Crazy by Queen, often credited as the 1st thrash tune, way back in 1974. But Queen was definitely not thrash. Sabbath was the 1st band that had all the classic elements of what we all love as metalheads. They laid down the foundation, and Priest would go on to expand and perfect it.
@@MetalMe55iah and Iommi is a very humble man. He might not want to take credit for it, but he and Sabbath invented metal. Sure, a ton of guitarists are blues based but imo Iommi is the first one who gave the world the ultra menacing doomy riffs that define metal. And then every other metal band followed their lead
I agree and stated as much above the vocals are more heavy metal than Sabbath it was the year after the first Sabbath album but the material is so much better they just don't sing about fairies and ghosts so get overlooked.
I always cringe whenever people call Ozzy the “godfather of metal”. Tony Iommi came up with their sound and composed the music, while Geezer Butler wrote the lyrics. It was a duo-effort between both of them, but Ozzy had little to no input.
But imagine if Sabbath had some terrible sounding singer with shit lyrics, the band would be a lot harder to listen to. IMO everyone in sabbath was as important as the other, after Tony of course. No Tony Iommi riffs no Black Sabbath.
I'm POSITIVE that in an interview, Tony Iommi said, "Black Sabbath definitely INVENTED Heavy Metal, but the EPITOME of Heavy Metal IS Judas Priest! The delivery: synchronized, dual guitar-attacks, the clothing....." (paraphrasing) Most likely was an MTV documentary.
@@moej.priest6861 I still can't find the interview. I am almost positive it was on some sort of MTV "roots" program regarding the origins of Heavy Metal. What Black Sabbath was saying was they invented heavy metal, but fast-forward 100 years the way metal will be REMEMBERED is Judas Priest!
if you listen to the first two albums the production and slow speed of the recordings aaaaalthough the songs added up weren"t quite as heavy metal as Sabbath was.
@@BradThePitts just sharing is more than enough my metal/priest brother! i myself remember a line, but can't recall from whom.. it was: "Sabbath was heavy but Priest was metal!!" perhaps googlin' it would help. yea ! honestly i worship 'em all (worship music, Anthrax) but as many commentators mentioned "nobody invented metal !" to me, there are Almighty Gods, Gods and lesser (nontheless) Gods!! Zeppelin for instance; they also "invented" metal ! (just the drums should suffice!) also "Father of The Sign DIO..." i believe Sabbath and Zeppelin co-invented Metal ! but yea "Priest IS Metal" ruclips.net/video/IyPZG6YGCqk/видео.html Priest, Halford solos and Dio to me are Almighty Gods. thanks you my friend, bless you. have a nice one and best wishes wherever you are. ROCK HARD RIDE FREE!
I just think it's tragic how bands like Blue Oyster Cult and Pentagram rarely, if at all, get a mention whenever discussions of the first heavy metal bands come up.
Nobody mentioned that the very first album by a band called Hawkwind is heavy metal. They had Lemmy from Motorhead. Listen to Mirror of Illusion. You realize where black sabbath got their sound from. Same singing style, same guitar solos, and is heavy. And yes this was released the same year but before sabbath
High Tide, King Crimson and some others had metal sounds before Sabbath. I think what they did was popularize its sound of power chords but the guy who solidified the sound for me was Ritchie Blackmore by mixing the neo classical style and heavy guitars. Classical music sounds metal as fuck if you listen to it.
Iommi lost his fingertips, then designed and created his own prosthetics so he could play guitar...that is metal AF.
the way he lost them is more metal. i thought he cut them off not crushed them and pulled everything but the bone out.
He had to downtune his guitar to accommodate his severed fingers, and in doing so, created a heavier sound.
And those were made out of Metal too!
Him losing his fingertips is what contributed to his playing style. Without that loss; no metal.
Lost them to METAL!
“Black Sabbath was the first metal band”
*Well yes, but actually no, but actually yes*
Truth and Janey
YES. Period. *End of Story.*
Yes
“Black Sabbath was the first metal band”
*Well yes.*
I think there's a couple bands that contributed. Ministry, metallica, alice cooper, anthrax. They just got progressively harder.
I like an argument Polyphonic makes:
You can argue that metal was invented before Black Sabbath, but you can't argue it was invented after Black Sabbath
Jimmy Danly Absolutely true! Ask Judas Priest, they would completely agree.
I totally agree. I also believe Deep Purple and early Rush who came later were also influences.
That’s probably the best way I’ve heard it put so far
BLUE CHEER !
@@wileywarfield1863 Exactly. People sleep on Blue Cheer because they have no idea what they are talking about. This video should have talked about Blue Cheer and Iron Butterfly a lot more than they did.
Early examples:
Helter Skelter
Born To Be Wild
In A Gadda-Da-Vida
Deep Purple’s first three albums
Jimi Hendrix
Cream
However, Black Sabbath perfected it.
Led Zeppelin
Deep Purple pre-Gillan years is actually an underrated precursor to heavy prog and proto metal. Great stuff and completely underrated.
Don't forget Blue Cheers version of Summertime Blues.
ruclips.net/video/as1NcX31szs/видео.html
The Kinks You Really Got Me is both proto-metal & proto-punk
No, early Deep Purple no, their first three albums are Psychedelic Rock and Pop Rock, they weren't even Hard Rock at that time and much less Heavy Metal or even something related, they reached Progressive Rock on the third album at most.
They did not begin to make Hard Rock or Heavy Metal until "In Rock", when Black Sabbath was already making their music and as their 3 albums throw something more to a commercial rock, with pop and some psychedelia (similar a bit to The Beatles), I would not say that they are early examples of Metal, they are far from it.
The moment Toni Iommi played those tritones, metal was invented.
The classical artists that ignored the "ban" on tritones need some credit too. Also, Wagner and Paganini need some credit. Metal was always there, certain people just discovered bits and pieces until it became a finished product.
Lies
@@Diesel257 yeah dude there was no ban on tritones
And why not? They copped it directly from Mars from Holst’s The Planets .Tritones in 5/4 before 1920 .So very metal.
I concur
Heavy Metal:
Amongst the Dark satanic mills of post WW2 Britain, a young guitarist labours. The bleak drudgery of working class life interrupted by demonic howls as finger tips sever in a steel press. He picks up the guitar determined not to fail. Agony bleeds through the amp every time he plays.
*Now that's an origin story
And that is Metal as fuck!!
Well when you put it that way.
might steal that for a D&D story. thank you
Metal as hell. And it's actually true too.
Look on RUclips at WHO REALLY INVENTED SATANIC METAL
Music genres aren't invented, they evolve.
well said!
False...heavy metal starts, virtually out of nowhere, with Black Sabbath
They were head banging to Antonio Lucio Vivaldi back in the day.
stop being edgy
what about gorenoise?
Ludwig van Beethoven had many foundations down; power chords, arrangement, speed.
He just didn't have electricity.
I think Bach more heavy metal 😁
Paganini had the speed.
@@JimmyMon666 A great one as well
Amplified classical: ruclips.net/video/wJa_VlBI1qo/видео.html
And Romantic era brought forth the themes seen later on in metal: History, fantasy, mythology etc.
Sabbath was the first complete heavy metal band. Nobody had total package like Sabbath, the heavy riffs and distortion, blazing solos, pounding drums, heavy bass lines, haunting vocals, lyrical content, attitude, band name and sheer volume. Many bands had some of these elements in place, but Black Sabbath had all those attributes that really make them the founding fathers of Heavy Metal. Priest was the first band to remove any blues from their brand of metal. Priest also introduced twin guitars for a bigger sound and also ramped up the tempo from the plodding heavy tempo that Sabbath is known for. Sabbath started it and Priest refined it. 🤘🏻
Pretty damn accurate! It was not just the heavy riffs, they were dark ominous riffs from Toni down-tuning his guitar to make it easier to play. But you are right. Influence is good but not enough. You need a point of reference where everything came together...No other band was that except black Sabbath. I can trace influence back to Gustav Holst scoring "Mars God of War" or even Niccolo Paganini, or Bach. Everything previous is an influence to what comes next.
@@TheJTcreate Everything you just said is absolutely 100% correct. Influence beget influence which beget influence until Sabbath put it all together and gave birth to metal.
I can't agree more with you two.. just imagine album "black sabbath" from 1970, damn if that's not already metal, I don't know what is... 4 years before Judas Priest was founded
Mc5
How can Sabbath be complete heavy metal without a heavy metal singer....the first and most influential metal singer is Halford! BS was a hard rock band with bluesy guitars...don't make me laugh! and Ozzy's voice is pop AF
Hendrix’s “Machine Gun” is an early influence that is not so talked about in metal..
I always cite voodoo chile . Chopping a mountain down with the edge of your hand is heavy . The attitude is there in every aspect of the masterpiece . imo.
Yeah right, Jimmy Hendrix is one act that doesn't get enough recognition and adulation! LMAO!!
Yeah foxy lady to this day is Just badasssssssss!
Phfft, go listen to Necromancer on Caress of Steel. That's more metal than Sabbath, and B4 them I believe. Actually it pushes toward black metal.
@@JeighNeither While it is a great song it was released May of 74, later than Sabbs album came out in 1970. And Rush was never considered metal.
Black Sabbath objectively invented heavy metal. Period. May the debate end now. There were plenty of bands that were pushing in that direction, (Led Zeppelin, Iron Butterfly, etc.), but Sabbath were the first to truly cement what it meant. Down-tuned instruments that sound downright sinister, lyrics that scared parents everywhere; this is what set heavy metal apart. Black Sabbath are the O.G.'s of metal.
Thank you
The INFLUENCE is what makes them the one. No one else captured the entire world like they did. Unless you're able to pick some actual dark metal from old led zeppelin or something.
the first album wasnt downtuned btw
Wrong. Led Zeppelin wrote/cemented metal with "Communication Breakdown" before Black Sabbath existed. Muted chords is heavy metal. Just because Sabbath fixated on form does not mean they invented it. Cream and Blue Cheer had NO muted E string. The muted E pretty much DEFINES metal. I do not know of ANY song that had the muted E string before it.
@@deathmetaldouglas69 the muted e doesn't define metal lol.
I personally feel sabbath. Then I believe Judas Priest carries the influence throughout the 70’s
Same really.
Shelley Garman true, but I’m saying that they carried huge influence for the rest of the 70’s and 80’s and influenced a lot of the big great metal bands in the 80’s onwards
@Shelley Garman Yes but they took metal to another level, they made the biggest impact after Sabbath.
Shelley Garman Priest started in 69’ but their first studio album was out until then
Judas Priest RE invented metal
Does anyone else realize that today, it has been exactly 50 years since the release of Black Sabbath’s first album?
Yes , and the world is still in awe
Why isn't it a public holiday?
"I always considered our music as hard rock, not heavy metal" Toni Iommi
Oh yeah Fairies Wear Boots is metal
@@moderndayprophet8604 yeah, make infant annihilator look like nursery rhymes.
Black Sabbath are heavy metal. You have to remember that before Black Sabbath there was no Heavy metal, sure there was proto metal, but no real heavy metal. So he didn't start playing the music he did with the mind set that what he was playing was heavy metal, he was playing with the mind set that what he was playing was rock, because that's all their had been up until that point. And at the end of the day Heavy Metal is just a subgenre of rock and roll anyways, and it's a very fine line between hard rock and heavy metal.
And they were only called hard rock back then.
@@Gregbaltzer i would agree Metal is a sub genre of Rock 30-40 years ago now it say its a category next to Rock. Theres no so many different sub genres of metal, its pretty ridiculous (yet i will correctly label bands by the ridiculous sub genres they fall in 🤣)
Black Sabbath was the first band to make heavy metal
But Judas Priest was the first heavy metal band
If that makes any sense
spando dongdee no it doesn’t
Very well said.
Scorpions were before either of those lmfao
Definitely New kids on the block.
Priest were a Zeppelin cover band on their first album and you know it. At least sabbath were unashamedly themselves from the beginning.
Heavy metal wasn't invented by a single band. It was a sound that evolved from post-psychedelic hard rock. Definetively, Black Sabbath had a huge influence on this process, as well as Deep Purple, who were also ahead of their time. During the 70s, lots of bands helped to evolve this sound: The Scorpions, UFO, Thin Lizzy, Budgie, Rush, Van Halen, the mighty Queen... even "more traditional" hard rock bands like Aerosmith or AC/DC, as well as the punk/70s hard rock crossover of Motorhead. But, quite probably, the band that has had the most enduring and evident impact in metal culture is Judas Priest. Not only because of their look (some hints of it were already there) but also because most heavy metal clichés crystallized in them: the twin guitars, the palm-muted fast riffs, the high-pitched operatic voice, the heavy metal typical lyrical themes, the heavy metal 'attitude'. We could say they were the definitive metal band, although they build on the influence of older bands like Sabbath.
@Brad Viviviyal Well, that's an opinion
it was, steppenwolf
Sabbath to me was still do something different all of them.
@@who0icu812 I think they were pretty unique when they came out. And they probably were the biggest step forward into heavy metal at the time. But I find later 70s bands even closer to the classic metal sound.
Brad Viviviyal 🤣
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And iron maiden
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@@franknada8235 I reported the comments, but they are still there.
@@RJTheBikeGuy Good.
But thats the YT AI for us. Deletes real comments with substance but doesnt care about anything else than their agenda.
Blue Cheer released their debut "Vincebus Eruptum" two year before Sabbath's debut while Coven's debut "Witchcraft Destroys Minds & Reaps Souls" was released a year prior to Sabbath's. Not to mention Iron Butterfly's first two albums "Heavy" & "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida" were also released in 1968.
Sabbath should get the credit , but King Crimsons “21st Century Schizoid Man” (before Sabbath) has to get a shout out.
Ozzy went on to later cover that song
more like prog rock, no?
@@willjohn1117 it's still heavier than the song Black Sabbath.
Steppenwolf Santo a metal band and they didn’t play Heavy Metal ... some of their songs were heavy rock ... but I bought their singles when they came out and Sabbath brought a whole new genre ... it helps to have been there and not to have only read about it
What?
Why is there no mention of Iron Butteryfly? Innagadadavida?? 1968 they sounded super dark and heavy
It was Black Sabbath. There was heavy music before them and there were bands whose music had qualities that are intrinsic to heavy metal but Black Sabbath was the first band to put it all together.
They had huge success with it, thats why they were pronounced as inventors really. Others just explored that sound on few tracks. But Hendrics is inventor bc he sounded metal before them, it was era of psychodelic rock in bloom so they put him there as Zeppelin but theyre not psychodelic at all...Jimmy Hendrics all the way is inventor
@@vilimbubas1302 Hendrix did not invent heavy metal. He was heavy but his music was more psychedelic blues rock.
One of the key elements of heavy metal is dark subject matter. Hendrix's music is overwhelmingly positive - he was a hippy. Sabbath wrote songs about war, addiction, the occult, insanity, etc. - subjects that are generally associated with the genre.
I'm honestly surprised Loudwire didn't claim it was Slipknot since they're obsessed with them.
Slipknot it's like a evolution beetwen Nu and Alternative Metal
Haha i fucking love your comment 🤣🤘
Haha you have achieved comedy.
Welcom to comedy island.
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Right on. Hahaha.
"ghost was the first heavy metal band'' Loudwire 2020
The desperation of Tony having to find a solution to loosing his fingers is heavy metal
Beatles in "Helter Skelter" if we're really talking about the genesis here.
Ian Johnson I’ve got blistas on me fingas
born to be wild came out a year earlier
Helter Skelter owes itself to I Can See For Miles. Not that Paul had heard it, he just read a critic saying it was the heaviest song he'd heard.
@@madmarkus55 More like 3 months. But point made.
Then it should be "The Kinks" LONG before that....
One thing never mentioned are the rockabilly country bands during the 50's that crossed the line into making rock itself. They helped bring the guitar to the forefront and brought excessive drinking and drug use along-from a hard life growing up dirt poor in many cases. '3 chords and the truth' set the tone for what rock became and later metal which incorporated dark imagery to describe the struggle of living.
The Devil horns wouldn't exist if it wasn't for Dio's Grandma.
fiscer247 huh ??? Please explain
@@fleadoggreen9062 ruclips.net/video/CwQ1A5eB_dY/видео.html
Video of Dio explaining where he learned the horns from.
She got it from 🇮🇹 lol So, yeah it would.
@Paul Provenzano That's a big maybe.
@Paul Provenzano I never thought I would hear someone seriously say that Dio was the best Black Sabbath had.....
Black Sabbath, enough said, everyone before than was just a pioneer.
Everyone before drew the map, Sabbath paved the path.
@sadsadsa asadasd To each his own.
You are clueless
MC5
"" JUST "" ???
Metal owes a lot to Screamin' Jay Hawkins. While his music didn't feature heavy distorted guitars or anything else stylistically associatable with Metal - except for the screaming - he was undoubtedly a major pioneer in adding a theatrical dimension to rock'n'roll, as well as exploring themes of the occult in both lyrics and performance.
You all forgot Budgie way ahead of their time and underrated
R.J. M Yes!! They are part of the big five!!
I was gonna mention them but you beat me to it!
...breadfan
YES!
Ozzy still loves Helter Skelter...
Rob zombie and marilyn Manson did a collaboration where they covered that song. I love it!
But he said it was Dazed and Confused that changed his world.
@@lyndoncmp5751 Skelter arrived first.
@@MarkKramKarmVI
Led Zeppelin were playing Dazed and Confused live in front of the public before Helter Skelter was recorded. First live Zeppelin public appearance was September 7th 1968. Zeppelin played Dazed and Confused and Communication Breakdown at that gig, so actually the public heard Dazed and Confused first.
@@MarkKramKarmVI
Also, as well as debuting Dazed and Confused to the public in Denmark in September 1968, Led Zeppelin did a tour of the UK through October and November 1968 where they played Dazed and Confused every night.
The public didn't hear Helter Skelter until November 22nd.
No one invented heavy metal, music evolve naturally, they go more heavy, faster. But after Black Sabbath, people start to follow a path. So, Black Sabbath not invented, but, they show how metal was gonna be after them
Exactly, just listen to a lot of traditional from anywhere and it is heavy AF AND could be argued as the original 'metal' if we wanted to do a bit of time travel! Blues and jazz if anything, inspired rock and as you said, Elvis just made it his own thing by playing it off them and of course they took off what was going on over here too and everywhere!
That's right, invent is a strong word... and we only use it to satiate our petty human schema. It's more like a spectrum or timeline. It builds up over time to form what we recognize as this style of music.
Of course it was invented if never done before its invented isn't it
@@anitabonghit7606
It evolved. Like man. Not created. Not invented.
@@anitabonghit7606 No, it evolve, who was the first to make a heavy riff? Bach? Beethoven? When i say it evolve, its because people listen to some music and wanted to make even heavier or faster. Thats why i said, its evolution, because no one was at home listening to Bob Marley and "invented" a heavy metal riff, its was evolving, slowly everyone was making a riff heavier and heavier till we reach at: Blue cheer or Deep Purple and then... BLACK SABBATH
I don't think anyone really invented heavy metal, it's more like an evolution of the living organism that music is but should one band be named as the inventor then Black Sabbath is that band without a shadow of doubt
How old are you?
Well said.
@@labshot i will be 40 later this year
@@HeavyMetalBluegrass thank you :)
I’m 61. I listen to anything from Metal to Bluegrass Gospel and everything in between.
Metal invented metal
The Heavy Metal SOUND had EVOLVED over time, but Black Sabbath, Alice Cooper, and Judas Priest are definitely the bands that gave Heavy Metal it's IMAGERY (both lyrical and visual).
I see your point and I'm not trying to be judgmental or sarcastic but if you really want to get down to it and research the subject which you obviously haven't.. how can you not include an artist that was ten years ahead of the Curve his name was Arthur Brown.. he didn't have a super huge popular catalog of hits... but he was doing all of this stuff in 1968.. he was a songwriter vocalist and a lot of his act was as a performance Artist... but look at all of his video taped performances from 1968 and put them side-by-side as to what other artists were doing.. well you be the judge but not mentioning him and I believe he's still performing at the age of like 85... and you have to take into account his biography I mean looking to the person himself not just the performance... it's just an opinion in an observation
The Jimi Hendrix Experience was the first time the words "heavy metal" were used by the British press. "Its like metal falling from the skies" was the way they described it.
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Hendrix is not metal. LOL
You should watch the Jimi Hendrix Experience.@@anon_laughing_man
It's amazing all the different bands and elements that all came together to make heavy metal what is it today
Who invented it? The “unholy trinity”, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, and Led Zeppelin.
Yes Ozzy said in his book Zep was a big influence but they were going to be “way heavier”.
Agreed 1000% percent. I always say this when people ask me. They were all around at the same time with Priest following the sound blueprint shortly thereafter. I will say that Sabbath was the heaviest of the 3 though with DP and Led Zep being harder rock.
@@avadakedavra69 that's right. And as far as Deep Purple's heaviest i vote Deep Purple In Rock. Still a monumental classic, perhaps better than Machine Head
THE YARDBIRDS WERE THERE FIRST.
The Beatles.
I can't find the source of this (paraphrased) quote... but I like the sentiment that "It can be argued that the first instances of "heavy metal" pre-dated Black Sabbath, that the first metal songs came before they released their debut album.... but it can't be argued that it came after"
THE YARDBIRDS CUT SABBATH TO SHIT, AND WERE YEARS EARLIER.
I'm disappointed The Beatles weren't mentioned,I think the outro to 'I Want You(She's So Heavy)recorded in 1969 was a powerful dark progression that no band has ever been able to touch in my opinion and let's not forget 'Helter Skelter' either released in 1968.
Thanks for mentioning them! Crazy they were left out of the video
Beatles are seen as a boy band for teen girls by many of the "tough" rock fans.
Uriah Heep, Sir Lord Baltimore and Deep Purple all out before Sabbath. Deep Purple In Rock was Purple’s third LP and was harder than Sabbath and came out before Sabbath’s debut LP
Steppenwolf identified the term "heavy metal" first in Born to be Wild.
Yes but I think you took that out of context didn't they work at a scrap yard,?
Yah, they were talking about motorcycles and hotrods
I was there. Blue Cheer!!!!!!!!
True but they were talking about Harleys and bikers
I think on that line heavy metal thunder they weren’t thinking about a certain genre that wasn’t created yet because these bands didn’t consider themselves heavy metal that wasn’t even a Music term back then their were heavy and hard rock bands.
Also, The Beatles had a few heavy songs that were a pre-cursor to metal. Then there was The Doors with their sound and the voice of Jim Morrison. Also, the New York Dolls were pretty heavy for their day in the early 70's. Oh and also Alice Cooper.
HOW ABOUT JIM MORRISON AND HIS CRAZY, DARK LYRICS.. ONE OF MY ALL TIME FAVS
Mr.Mojo Risin
he definitely had the tone that helped dictate a lot of songs that came after him.
@@Javierm0n0 PEOPLE ARE STRANGE STILL GIVES ME GOOSE BUMPS 30 YEARS AFTER I FIRST HEARD IT. THE DOORS ARE ICONIC FOR SURE.
@@Gearhead1967 sadly the doors are never on anyones list for greatest rock bands
@@anitabonghit7606 what?
8:44 "I had this job, which was a good job, if you like jobs" fucking gold
In my opinion 21st Century Schizoid Man by King Crimson, Helter Skelter, I Want You by The Beatles, Communication Breakdown by Led Zeppelin had big influence in Metal history.
Bartek Mlotkowski YES. 💥
As well as Jethro Tull with numbers like "My God" & "Cross Eyed Mary"
steppenwolf
@@theactualcanadian8300 I like 70s Jethro Tull Concerts. They had contact with rhe audience and energy on stage.
Bartek Mlotkowski agreed, but I saw them several years ago (before they split) and still had mad energy. Anderson and Barr we’re running around like maniacs!
5:25 And let ME stop YOU right there to remind you that Mike Saunders published a review for Humble Pie's As Safe As Yesterday Is in 1970, which was the first point where the term Heavy Metal was used to describe heavy rock music. That was six months before his review of Kingdom Come, which he reviewed in 1971 with the same term.
"They can't stop us
Let em try
FOR HEAVY METAL WE WILL DIE"
🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
I'm from Detroit (blow the reveille)!
*HEAVY METAL:*
Stretching Blues/R&B/Pop/Classical/
(or anything) concepts out to the farthest degree possible. _(Insert 'ominous' here)_
-Loud, plodding drums.
-Loud, 12-bar bass bottom.
-Loud, 'machismo' vocals trying to reach high.
-Loud, thundering crunch-chords that sound
*'gargantuan'* & (at the same time) *'dark'*
or *'ominous'.* _(insert 'tritone' here)_
-Screeching guitar lead with a _'metallic'_ edge.
This 'stretching' creates a desirable sort of 'drone' or 'sludge' quality.
*Note:* Some say Heavy Metal is _"defined"_ by the _'muted-E'_ or _'diminished-5ths'_ or the _'required'_ presence of the _'tritone'._
(As a musician) I respect someone trying to break it down to pure musical language.
*IMHO:* You get lost in the weeds that way.
You forget the 'disaffected-adolescent'/rebel-against-the-established-order'/
*Culture Shock* goals at play.
By any means necessary!
Kinda like trying to explain R&R.
*LYRICS:*
Anyone using 'lyrics' to define a genre should take a musical theory course.
Do HM lyrics require _Witches?_ _Spaceships?_ _Norse Gods?_ _Mystical stuff?_ _Murder?_ et al?
Of course not. Almost any example could probably be found (to some degree) in another genre ('Gimme Shelter', for instance). While I feel there have been some great HM lyricists; *This ain't exactly Dylan/Morrison territory.* fugedaboudit!
*TERMINOLOGY:*
Tricky.
Forget metallurgy, William Burroughs & Steppenwolf.
The term 'Heavy' was used in music going back to the '50s.
Contrary to popular belief, the term "Heavy Metal" WAS used in the late '60s by Journalists, Radio DJs, & during interviews,
if clumsily.
I Heard IIt/Used It/ & said it myself.
*-* *Lester Bangs* used _"Heavy Metal"_ to describe
a Love concert. - (unknown origin)
*-* A Hendrix concert was described as _"...Heavy_
_Metal falling from the sky."_ - (unknown origin)
*-* (re: Guess Who’s 'Canned Wheat') _“With a_
_fine hit single, ‘Undun,’ behind them, they’re_
_quite refreshing in the wake of all the heavy_
_metal robots of the year past.”_
- (Rolling Stone-Feb.1970-Lester Bangs)
*-* _"....Humble Pie is a noisy, unmelodic, heavy_
_metal-leaden shit-rock band, with the loud_
_and noisy parts beyond doubt.”_
- (Rolling Stone-Sept.1970-Mike Saunders)
*-* _"....Grand Funk sludge, because Sir Lord_
_Baltimore seems to have down pat most_
_all the best heavy metal tricks in the book."_
- (Creem Magazine-May 1971-Mike Saunders)
Not much documentation. But, enough to suggest my 'organic usage' claim is real.
As you see, it wasn't very _accurate_ usage.
Cream/Blue Cheer/Vanilla Fudge/Iron Butterfly/Led Zeppelin/Deep Purple/Mountain were not referred to as _"Heavy Metal"_ (yet).
So, the _'terminology-origin-story'_ begins AND ends with *Lester Bangs.*
By 1972-73, Lester (& others who followed his lead) were referring to the:
*"Heavy Metal Triumvirate"* (Zep/Sab/Purple).
By the time BOC & Priest arrived, the genre was codified.
When folks say Black Sabbath was the first *Fully-Formed Heavy Metal* (FFHM); It's usually followed by saying previous bands were:
_"Hard Rock",_ or _"Psychedelic Rock",_ or
_"Proto-Metal",_ or _"Acid-Rock",_ whatever.
Actually, those previous bands had FFHM songs in their repertoire.
But, it was just PART of their set.
*Black Sabbath* WAS the 1st to make an entire album of Heavy Metal.
THAT was their pioneering concept!
(ALL Metal)
They also played everything in 'Drop-D'.
(Again) not the first. But, the first to feature it prominently in ALL songs.
Geezer, Tony, or Bill would be the 1st to admit they continued what Cream (& Jimi, & Blu Chr, & Deep Purple, & Led Zep, & Van. Fudge, &
Jeff Beck Group, & many others.) had begun.
(Ozzie liked _"The Beatles"._ LoL~°)
Sabbath also began the process of sifting out the 'blues' aspects (but not entirely).
(IMHO) Priest finished THAT job!
I submit:
Cream: *'Deserted Cities of the Heart'* (1968)
Album: *'Live Cream-Vol.2'* (Not 2005 version)
This is: *Fully Formed Heavy Metal!*
If you still don't hear it; I dunno, man.
Peace. Stay Healthy!
- Dave B.
Well said.
But in the end isnt it just different opinions?
Some folks just wont hear Metal in Cream or Hendrix.
Music hits everyone different.
@@johnny2badd681 That would be worth considering if a large number of fans who were actually there & dug all the bands mentioned,
(incl. *Zep/Sab/Purple* ) had the opinion that
Heavy Metal started: Feb.1970.
But, that isn't the case.
Heck, there's an even younger crowd that
believe Heavy Metal began with Priest!
So, who you gonna believe?:
- _Someone coming of age in the '80s?_
- _Someone coming of age in the '90s?_
- Or, someone who:
- was kinda young for the 'Elvis/Berry/Brit
Invasion' (but still remembered them).
- Came of age in the late '60s/early '70s.
- Veered into Funk & Punk.
- Dug '80s thrash metal.
- & Was still a Hard Rocker thru the '90s?
_('2000's: no comment. I started losing touch.)_
Sab's DID play in a Drop D more than most
due to Iommi's fingers.
I agree that contributed to their unique sound.
But, that's a nuanced difference.
I'll say one thing about Black Sabbath:
Unlike some of the previous bands I mentioned
(Vanilla Fudge/Iron Butterfly/some others)
The Sabs were PROLIFIC songwriters.
They NAILED IT every time.
They were GREAT!
But, they did not _invent a genre._
There was a lot more than just _'building-blocks'_ when they showed up.
It's hard to say when it actually started.
It wasn't... _all-of-a-sudden._
*IMHO: It was somewhere between the start of Cream & the start of The Experience.*
With some others thrown in for good measure.
But, I know there's other (valid) opinions.
Funny thing: In 1970, those of us digging the 'Heavy-Metal-Triumvirate' (younger Boomers) were made fun of for listening to 'kiddie-rock'(!?!)
Can you imagine?
Try another one: *'Mandrake Root'.*
- Dave B.
Blue Cheer, Cream, Hendrix, and lots others made hard crunch sludge flats and sharps (tritones, whatever) before 1970.
The Heavy Metal Trimumvirant wasnt said until years later.
It did refer to Led Zep/B Sab/D Purple (as you said.
I was there. Nobody knows Exactly when hm was invented.
@@retlawk.7333 That's the thing.
It didn't just happen at one moment.
On 1 album. By 1 band.
I think the fact that Black Sabbath played ALL Heavy Metal & played in 'Drop-D' causes those 'in-the-now' to look back & see a bigger disconnect between them & what came before than there actually was.
There was loud, freaky, scary music before 1970.
- Dave B.
Its everyones diff opinions!
I think Steppenwolf was Heavy Metal.
I think InnaGoddaDaVida was Heavy Metal.
I think Blue Cheer was Heavy Metal.
Cream and Hendrix were sort of Heavy Metal. But also Hard Rock.
You just have one opinion.
I do agree it was happening before Sabbath.
Blue Cheer was an American rock band that initially performed and recorded in the late 1960s. Blue cheer invented metal
Listen to their song summer time blues
Nazareth also had their influence. Some of their early albums are quite heavy, and drummer Darrell Sweet played the first blast beat ever.
Razamanazz !! Awesome
Hair of the dog.
Alexander Hampp sorry Nazareth was all Deep Purple without the keyboards. Roger Glover of Deep Purple actually helped them write Razmanaz and based it on Deep Purple In Rock. He even produced their early albums.
Nazareth 🤘🏻🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Used to jam Turn On Your Receiver in a band years ago.
If your amp doesn't go to 11 then you're not heavy LOL
Yes go Spinal Tap
Steppenwolf - Born To Be Wild with the lyric "heavy metal thunder" is where the term was coined. No?
They were referring to motorcycles, not music.
I agree 100% that this lyric, transcended, into coining the music, heavy metal!
I've heard this before but not sure if it's true.
The lyric heavy metal thunder was used in the release of born to be wild in 1968. It was not used at the time to label a style of music but as VH1 once said the term was born with steppenwolf and later adopted to label heavy metal music.
yep, predates sabbath, is distinctly heavy metal, and it coined the phrase.
weird goth drama metal was sabbaths invention,
There's so many influences and so many bands artists helped to create it. You can't nail it down on just one band or person it was a progression of sound environment and innovation
Great video. A discussion worth having. Definitely makes me want to learn more about the genre’s roots!
Heavy metal saved my life. It was the music for outsiders. It's the constant thing that has always been a part of my life. Sold my soul for rock and roll. It's the bonding experience at a heavy metal show, where you let out your aggressions.🤘🤘🤘🤘metal forever!!!!!!!!!!!
Sam Dunn has done a 12 part series of documentaries on this very topic called Metal Evolution.
Yes and it's awesome. Saw the series years ago on TV and shortly afterwards came upon the DVD package in a local record store. Instant no-brainer purchase and still watch it from time to time
Black Sabbath and Tony Iommi, no doubt about it
I doubt it-so yes doubts about it.
@@bobair2 You must not know metal very well then. There were sparks of metal before Sabbath, some great heavy rock bands, but Sabbath solidified heavy metal.
I'd like to hear who Bob thinks it is... lmfao
It was ANVIL
Lmfao
Huge props for the Sir Lord Baltimore mention dude! I remember discovering their debut album in my teens via the recommendation of a record-shop "tomb-rider" that was deep into the 60's-70's underground rock scene. I couldn't believe how dark and heavy their sound was that early on: true pioneers!
The Beatles in 1968 came out with Helter Skelter and Revolution, which also used a lot of feedback and distorted sound at certain parts, coupled with Paul's screaming at the start of Revolution was very pre-metal-like. Given their immense popularity at the time, those songs certainly introduced a more grungy, aggressive style of music to some people who may not have been paying much attention to lesser-known bands at the time. This was around the same time we got Blue Cheer's "Summertime Blues", which was very heavy with distortion, and at least a year before the world would hear of a band called Led Zeppelin.
I'm surprised "Helter Skelter" by The Beatles wasn't brought up
True
The White album actually had a lot of proto Metal moments that most listeners just zip pass in order to get to Helter Skelter. Glass Onion was dark and creepy as fuck. Then some of the stuff they did a few albums before like Tomorrow never knows were very proto Metal.
Im glad cause that bs of "proto metal" its cause the fanboys wanted to put the beatles in every fucking thing like theyre the ultimate influential band ever existed on the universe
At least for me Helter Skelter is not in that "world", it's more hard rock (just for me, I know it's totally subjective and labels really mean nothing).
But having said that, "I Want You (She's So Heavy)" absolutely qualifies for it. Dark, frightening... and absolute masterpiece.
@@sleepingphilosophers7721 I agree. The last part of the song, which lasts like 4 minutes alone, sounds like something Sabbath could have done.
I think it is the drums that make a heavy metal concert unforgettable. Feeling the sound of those double bass drums just rattles your chest and it's amazing.
Look into 70s jazz drummers. An example is Tony Royster Jr (look up 12 year old drum solo). Idk when the video was made but its def influenced by classic jazz drummers. Fyi this is Jay Zs drummer 🙄 Its a straight metal drum solo yet hes says his biggest influences were some jazz drummers. I started doing some light digging and man was i surprised.
"Invented" is not the correct term. Metal was invented by countless artists. Black Sabbath was the first distinguishably Metal band.
How we define Metal today is based on the artistic direction of Black Sabbath
The Psychedelic 60s sound was the starting point of it and Sabbath took it and progressed with it ..
This is the correct answer. It was never 'invented'. People who know what they're talking about know this.
Without watching the video: No one "invented" heavy metal. It developed with the music of multiple artists.
Everthing is true,BUT..Black Sabbath is on my opinion first band who not play,,blues note,,tell me..can compare Led Zeppelin with Sabbath,or can compare Deep Purple with Sabbath,simply can't not,excpecially when Dio come in Black Sabbath..others bands continue with own style..but heavy metal..go in totaly diferent direction..in best direction..for milions fans across the world...
@Nemesis 86 Steppenwolf is rock band,with sound of classic rock,dont see..before Black Sabbath all bands play blues rock style..right? When Sabbath come then can hear,,evil sound,,from guitars..Paranoid song,imagine this song played by Led Zeppelin..or some other band..no mate..only with Black Sabbath start era of Heavy Metal..and words in song like,,heavy metal thunder,,is just a try to be,,heavy,,...how heavy when you ( a band) still play only rock..soft rock..oh and not forgot..on end of 60s nobody think to play heavy...SO..Tomy Iommi is first guitarist who start play,,evil,,....
@Nemesis 86 know for that..but why other band not start to play heavy..a??oh maybe nobody want to listen,or heavy is not so mainstream,for me personaly Iron Maiden is heavy metal and in some moment Judas Priest can be,and Black Sabbath...well..only with Dio is heavy metal..before with Ozzy...not much..maybe you and me diferent look about metal..
@UCLClFY3P6PGUl3c0HEf3xBA you sounds like fans when talk about who invented black metal..Venom or Bathory..
Completely false ... Heavy metal begins with Black Sabbath ... no one even arguably played in that style both musical,y and lyrically
It's gotta be Hendrix AND Cream. They were both before Sabbath. Hendrix invented the distortion and utilized power chords, Cream took it and amplified the intensity. It was those two bands together learning from each other that combined heavy distortion, power chords and aggressive fast angry rhythms. At least 3 years before Sabbath ever did.
I would say the very first metal song was Sunshine of Your Love from 1967. Distorted aggressive guitars, power chords, guitar solo with extended technical pentatonic sections that's more aggression than blues, extended aggressive drum fills, driving tempo and an aggressive sound that isn't rock or blues. Metallica, Sabbath, Megadeth etc. all have some of their biggest hits off the Sunshine of Your Love riff. Hendrix is equally as responsible for the song, his influence can clearly be heard in the solos and in the tone of the guitars.
Seriously dudes, go listen to the section at 4:25 of the song. Clapton straight up starts shredding like it's 1985. Everyone talks about the tritone from Sabbath but Clapton is extensively using chromatic out of key notes in the solo for at least a minute combining it with harmonics to create the intense feedback and distortion that started the genre. He's on video from the 60s going "you just take blues, distort it then play it angry, like this..."
Those 2 together were the impetus, everybody took the idea of blues being aggressive, loud and angry from them. Before them the distortion had no feedback and was uptempo ragtime like Chuck Berry. Jimmy Page made an entire career playing Chuck Berry solos in the style of Eric Clapton.
@mack5133
I'm from Detroit (blow the reveille)!
*Very good explanation!*
The theme in these comment sections seems to be:
*-* *If you were there;* It's hard to pinpoint.
One explanation is as good as the next.
And, they're ALL valid!
*-* *If you were NOT there;* Comments are
much simpler. (& more _'definitive'_ )
That's called _'speaking-to-a-narrative'._
*ROX ON!*
- Dave B.
This is good. Giving blues its proper dues. I'm proud of you, Loudwire.
Well, you need Blues to play Heavy Metal so that's right
Besides classical, most music came from the blues. No one can deny that
Blues should give its proper dues to western harmonic theory and country music, from which blues developed.
@@melvynobrien6193 Nope. "Blues is a music genre and musical form which was originated in the Deep South of the United States around the 1870s by African-Americans from roots in African musical traditions, African-American work songs, and spirituals." Both evolved from folk music but African's were making music way before anyone else was.
@@ZiddersRooFurry And what folk music was that?
Can't wait to watch that video ! Unfortunately I'm busy right now.
No mention of Deep Purple, Rainbow, or Iron Butterfly...huh.
Rainbow? They were formed in the mid 70''s.
They did mention Deep Purple
One OF THE BEST LOUDWIRE VIDEOS
I'm surprised that Pentagram was never even mentioned in this because they were playing what became known as "heavy metal" really early on! They formed around the last couple years of the 60's, which places them around the same time frame as when Sabbath was establishing their sound!! So Pentagram was one of the very first "heavy metal" bands! Maybe they werent before Sabbath but they came pretty damn close and were absolutely around long before many of the other bands who were mentioned, so Pentagram certainly deserves a mention & given some acknowledgement!
Most people tend to forget that black sabbath was originally a blues/ jazz band
No, it was the Earth. Half of Black Sabbath (Iommi and Osbourne)
Blue cheer and iron butterfly and a bunch of other proto metal bands need the credit too like atomic rooster
They might have pointed the way but Sabbath nailed it. The end.
Later on Captain Beyond and Blue Oyster Cult. I love Atomic Rooster Death walks behind you.
@@donaldcady3839 I love me some proto metal and have your heard hard stuff? It's the band that du cann was in after atomic rooster
THE YARDBIRDS were there first.
I agree with Joel. Early bands like Iron Butterfly and Blue Cheer set the stage for what was to become heavy metal. Music evolves, that is why things change in music and life in general doesn't get stale. First time I heard Sabbath I was blown away, evolution is wonderful.
7:43 The American way of saying Birmingham: Burning Ham LOL
Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin e Uriah Heep.
Uriah Heep copied Deep Purple (and yes, added a little of their own).
Seems that Helter Skelter by the Beatles was recorded in September 1968, and Wham Bang Thank you Mam by the Small Faces was recorded in March 1968.
I was thinking of the Small Faces as well but leaning towards Song of A Baker, great and versatile band.
Steppenwolf "Heavy Metal Thunder" 1968
Jean D. Of course they wrote that song for the movie Easy Rider.
Highlight of this video : I never heard of High Tide before, so that gave me something new to listen to. Pretty cool! I would call it "almost metal" but it sounds too much like the Doors to quite get there. It's so close to getting there, but to me nothing quite does it like the song "Black Sabbath". That's the first "actual" heavy metal song. Lots of other music was paving the way for it to happen, but that's the first song that actually DID it. Purple, Zeppelin, Cream, Hendrix, Steppenwolf .... none of those quite did it. All were important, but none were actually it.
Primitive cave men invented Heavy Metal , the Vikings help Shape it , Chuck Berry Drew up the BluePrint , every one else Ran with it
This is a fucking amazing video, great production quality and some great points made
Its more than having a heavy tone. Its the tritones, the dark theme for the times (which people seem to forget to credit) the look, the aggression, the attitude.
Many of these bands had 1 or some of these elements. But sabbath had ALL of them
I ❤hard rock n heavy metal music and digging those band t-shirts y'all have on Black Sabbath +Nirvana and Corrosion Of Conformity .
Thank the gods for some people that are giving credit to Blue Cheer! They need way more credit than they get for metal.
Eric Clapton regarded Blue Cheer as the founders of Heavy Metal in an interview in the I recently
When I bought Black Sabbath's first album I couldn't stop flipping it over! I love that Album! 😎✌️🍻
That opening track, right? The rain sounds and thunder, then that Ozzy wail. "OHHHH, NOOOOOO!" Chills!
Take it from someone that was alive back then and witnessed it , it was Iron Butterfly that invented the "heavy" sound, that was 1967 the Kinks had a big hand in it, Led Zeppelin?their first hit was Whole Lotta Love, after that they created the Hard Rock genre refusing to embrace metal. it was Steppenwolf who coined the phrase and it was Tony Iommi and Black Sabbath started it all.
From someone who lived it, yes, this is how it happened. 100%
Why is not one person mentioning Dick Dale when it comes to heavy guitar playing? The man invented the guitar amp, practically! They had to re-invent the amp because of Dale; he was literally... shredding them up. Blowing up the amps because of his playing style... and that's not even mentioning how heavy gauge his strings were!
I know right! I don't get why people forget about real Surf Rock, and the King of Surf
Tony Iommi invented heavy metal riffing, but Jimmy Page invented heavy metal soloing. Look at Dazed and Confused solo, Heartbreaker, Communication Breakdown, Good Times Bad Times, etc...
Michael Schenker has had more influence. Jimmy was more bluesy.
Lmao. Ritchie Blackmore started Heavy Metal style soloing he sweeps, shred, and tremolo plays. He does 80s shredder thing at his time. Sabbath eventhough their music are dark & evil still on guitar solo very blues oriented.
@@LoePenzz Most of what he does is tremolo picking. You can rarely hear a song where he actually does what we consider to be 'shredding'. Also, when Blackmore did start using 'shredding', it wasn't until 1972, with machine. Btw, you do release that just because someone sweeps and tremolo picks, that doesn't mean they invented metal soloing, right? Jazz musicians had been doing that before the concept of metal was created.
@@Frisbieinstein Well, Jimmy Page came earlier, and metal was based in the blues to start the genre. Sure he would have his songs that were more bluesy, but like I said, Communication Breakdown, Heartbreaker, Dazed and Confused solo, etc...
@@pearsecobb6168 More safe to said instead saying Jimmy Page the blues guy invented Metal, he even refuse for interview on That Metal Show and said he has nothing to do with subgenre later called Heavy Metal.
Nope because sweep & tremolo become standar on metal solo style instead Jimmy Page plays blues solo style, I do says the same thing about two handed tapping there's flamenco guitarist has been doing it way before EVH start. You basically a die hard Jimmy Page fanboy.
Two words Black Sabbath 🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿
You right little boy 🤟
I wonder why this debate still rages on ! It should be obvious to all !
Rick Leblan perhaps but sabbath invited metal 👊🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿
the two correct words: THE YARDBIRDS.
The MC5
The first metal song was made by Iron Butterfly.
In gadda da vida
Earlier bands, like Blue Cheer and Steppenwolf, had some elements that contributed to metal, but were still solidly in the garage band, and psychedelic genres, respectively. Iommi's accident , and his learning to adapt to it to continue playing, with Geezer's lyrics, and yes, borrowing from those who came before, all came together , to create what we know today as metal, with Black Sabbath.
If you're going to mention volume, equipment and amplification, you must mention the King of Surf Guitar, Dick Dale. Together with Leo Fender, he helped develop the very first 100 watt amp.
Dale blew up dozens of Fender amps, which Leo gave him to test. Leo struggled to understand what Dale was doing and why he needed so much power.
One night, Leo and his assistant, Freddie Tavares attended one of Dale's shows at the Rendezvous Balloom in Newport Beach CA. Dale got himself a permit to play the abandoned Ballroom. In just 4 months, he went from playing for about 20 of his friends at an ice cream parlor to packing a 4,000 person Ballroom with screaming, dancing teens. The crowd noise was deafening.
Leo Fender finally understood what Dick Dale was doing with his guitar and why he needed such sustained volume that he was smoking amps every weekend. The result of this relationship was the 1963, 100 watt Fender Dual Showman amp, with two 15 inch speakers. Dale claims that he ruined about 50 Fender amps before Leo finally got it right.
Some say that this makes Dick Dale the first Metal guitarist, only with volume and reverb instead of distortion, but I'm guessing there was probably some distortion involved when he blew 50 amps and speakers onstage.
Heavy metal is more than all that.
"Helter Skelter" by the Beatles was released years before Black Sabbath.
Yes it was, so ???? And it was heavier than Please Please Me for sure, definitely rocking hard but no way close to Black Sabbath's wall of sound heaviness
@@rickleblanc8900 No, it doesn't sound like Sabbath, but it sounds heavy.
I think Helter Skelter was a big influence on King Crimson. The roaring guitars and the dissonant sax solo...
I've heard this as well. I'm mixed on this theory. I've also heard All Day And All Of The Night by The Kinks in '64 was the beginning. It's all subjective really.
Helter Skelter, arguably a metal song by a non metal band. Just like Stone Cold Crazy by Queen, often credited as the 1st thrash tune, way back in 1974. But Queen was definitely not thrash. Sabbath was the 1st band that had all the classic elements of what we all love as metalheads. They laid down the foundation, and Priest would go on to expand and perfect it.
Everyone knows Black Sabbath was first.
But iommi has said on several occasions that sabbath aren't metal
@@MetalMe55iah Hell he can say the earth is flat for all I care. The man is the most metal person I've ever known.
@@MetalMe55iah true even Lemmy from Motorhead said the same, but there all definitely huge inspirations never the less
@@MetalMe55iah and Iommi is a very humble man. He might not want to take credit for it, but he and Sabbath invented metal. Sure, a ton of guitarists are blues based but imo Iommi is the first one who gave the world the ultra menacing doomy riffs that define metal. And then every other metal band followed their lead
@@rickleblanc8900 Humble? lol
In 4 words: DEEP PURPLE IN ROCK. Many folks on this comment section really need to give that incredible masterwork a listen, won't regret it.
I agree and stated as much above the vocals are more heavy metal than Sabbath it was the year after the first Sabbath album but the material is so much better they just don't sing about fairies and ghosts so get overlooked.
@@guttercat676 It actually came out a couple months after Sabbath's debut, but Deep Purple had been making albums as early as 1968
@@davidnissim589 Yeh I know that but In Rock was their first heavy rock album.
@@guttercat676
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'Mandrake Root'!
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- Dave B.
Deep Purple In Rock actually came out months BEFORE Black Sabbath’s first LP
If i'm not mistaken it was the band stepping wolf
Yep
Steppen*
Where did the term heavy metal come from?
And who were the first bands labeled heavy metal?
Do we have any magazines or tv clips showing such?
To quote Steveo from SLC Punk, “WHO CARES WHO STARTED IT? ITS MUSIC!!”
Music that's awesome like real heavy metal
I always cringe whenever people call Ozzy the “godfather of metal”. Tony Iommi came up with their sound and composed the music, while Geezer Butler wrote the lyrics. It was a duo-effort between both of them, but Ozzy had little to no input.
Same haha like wtf did ozzy do he came up with the vocal melodies and what the songs would be about. But iommi created it all
Sotis175 Iommi and Butler. All the songs that Ozzy recorded with them were written by those two.
Fast pace of Surf Rock
But imagine if Sabbath had some terrible sounding singer with shit lyrics, the band would be a lot harder to listen to. IMO everyone in sabbath was as important as the other, after Tony of course. No Tony Iommi riffs no Black Sabbath.
EXACTLY 👏👏👏👏
I'm POSITIVE that in an interview, Tony Iommi said, "Black Sabbath definitely INVENTED Heavy Metal, but the EPITOME of Heavy Metal IS Judas Priest! The delivery: synchronized, dual guitar-attacks, the clothing....." (paraphrasing) Most likely was an MTV documentary.
Nice, agreed & thank you
@@moej.priest6861 I still can't find the interview. I am almost positive it was on some sort of MTV "roots" program regarding the origins of Heavy Metal. What Black Sabbath was saying was they invented heavy metal, but fast-forward 100 years the way metal will be REMEMBERED is Judas Priest!
if you listen to the first two albums the production and slow speed of the recordings aaaaalthough the songs added up weren"t quite as heavy metal as Sabbath was.
@@BradThePitts Nobody will ever let know, Bastards. If you take dual guitar you have wishbone Ash
@@BradThePitts just sharing is more than enough my metal/priest brother!
i myself remember a line, but can't recall from whom.. it was: "Sabbath was heavy but Priest was metal!!"
perhaps googlin' it would help.
yea ! honestly i worship 'em all (worship music, Anthrax) but as many commentators mentioned "nobody invented metal !"
to me, there are Almighty Gods, Gods and lesser (nontheless) Gods!!
Zeppelin for instance; they also "invented" metal ! (just the drums should suffice!)
also "Father of The Sign DIO..."
i believe Sabbath and Zeppelin co-invented Metal ! but yea "Priest IS Metal"
ruclips.net/video/IyPZG6YGCqk/видео.html
Priest, Halford solos and Dio to me are Almighty Gods.
thanks you my friend, bless you.
have a nice one and best wishes wherever you are. ROCK HARD RIDE FREE!
I just think it's tragic how bands like Blue Oyster Cult and Pentagram rarely, if at all, get a mention whenever discussions of the first heavy metal bands come up.
Nobody mentioned that the very first album by a band called Hawkwind is heavy metal. They had Lemmy from Motorhead. Listen to Mirror of Illusion. You realize where black sabbath got their sound from. Same singing style, same guitar solos, and is heavy. And yes this was released the same year but before sabbath
High Tide, King Crimson and some others had metal sounds before Sabbath. I think what they did was popularize its sound of power chords but the guy who solidified the sound for me was Ritchie Blackmore by mixing the neo classical style and heavy guitars. Classical music sounds metal as fuck if you listen to it.