2020 Citroen Berlingo MPV review - why it's the best MPV on sale today | What Car?

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  • @Heinz1zwei
    @Heinz1zwei 3 года назад +26

    You can fit the longest scarves in there as well.

    • @caroljohnston8229
      @caroljohnston8229 3 года назад +1

      Clever! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂👌

    • @jamesmason8944
      @jamesmason8944 Год назад

      The scarve is to hide her bump. The lovely Rebecca is with child.

    • @yarbzag
      @yarbzag Год назад

      Shame the numb needs hiding. It should be celebrated.
      Congrats Rebecca

  • @niklaswejedal463
    @niklaswejedal463 5 лет назад +62

    MPVs will always be a better alternative than any SUV for anyone who want a really good car, and not a show-off-machine. Can't understand this infernal SUV-hype of the masses - get over it, will you!

  • @ericgeorge5483
    @ericgeorge5483 5 лет назад +13

    The Belingo is hugely impressive, and if I was in the market for a car of that type it would be the one I would go for.

  • @ruzzelladrian907
    @ruzzelladrian907 5 лет назад +6

    Citröen knows design. They made an MPV and embraced the design and added a touch of futuristic design.
    I'm in love with the seats.

  • @samperegreen7003
    @samperegreen7003 5 лет назад +15

    I've just ordered a Berlingo 😊 quite looking forward to getting it now. Congratulations on the baby Rebecca my wife is also expecting! xx

    • @spirokaci
      @spirokaci 4 года назад +3

      so,what is your experience so far?

    • @johno8341
      @johno8341 Год назад

      How is your Berlingo after 4 years please? Thinking of buying one.
      Regards.

  • @hakeemsd70m
    @hakeemsd70m 5 лет назад +6

    The Berlingo is a very pleasant little van! Roomy, flexible, comfy, good lookin', fuel efficient, it checks so many boxes. it's just too bad this car isn't sold in The States... Great review Rebecca and congrats on the bump!

  • @PlanetautoUK
    @PlanetautoUK 5 лет назад +18

    An impressive vehicle, looks great with the new front end, tech options and we were also pleasantly surprised with how it drove too.

    • @philipporter4433
      @philipporter4433 2 года назад

      Err, should have gone to specsavers....or you mean for an mpv? This is the first MPV video I've watched, but I'll be looking at buying one, so better start getting used to the looks.

    • @PlanetautoUK
      @PlanetautoUK 2 года назад

      @@philipporter4433 Are you saying it’s not a vehicle?

    • @philipporter4433
      @philipporter4433 2 года назад

      @@PlanetautoUK No not at all. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. MPV's aren't the prettiest, but they certainly have utility.

    • @PlanetautoUK
      @PlanetautoUK 2 года назад +1

      @@philipporter4433 in which case we are completely perplexed by your first comment

  • @colincampbell4261
    @colincampbell4261 6 месяцев назад

    I love the shape of the Berlingo and Rifter.

  • @markplante1419
    @markplante1419 4 года назад +1

    I have the Citroen Berlingo longversion from 2019. Benzin. And i just Love driving the Card. Very confortable. I Love it.

  • @Granattaaaaaa
    @Granattaaaaaa 3 года назад +1

    My parents got one, and it is just super impressive across the range. I am on now on the market for one as well as it is a car fit for all purposes

  • @tangchiprathomo819
    @tangchiprathomo819 5 лет назад +17

    Congrats for your pregnancy, Becky 🙏🏽

  • @volt8684
    @volt8684 2 года назад +1

    I have a 2007 berlingo and am single, still a great car for everything. Camping, biking, skip runs.people always want to borrow it. I want one of these but they are so expensive now

    • @wingit4031
      @wingit4031 2 года назад

      How much mileage have you driven? is there any issues? thanks in advance.

    • @volt8684
      @volt8684 2 года назад +2

      @@wingit4031 120000miles is needing new clutch. Nothing other than service parts. Cam belt x2 , oil filter, air filter, fuel filter, brake discs pads x2and shoes. Exhaust back box. A new battery. Also changed suspension drop links twice @£30 each time. Totally reliable other than scheduled maintenance on 15 yrs car

  • @SinkyYT
    @SinkyYT 5 лет назад +30

    That should make a good camper conversion.

    • @tamas1946
      @tamas1946 4 года назад

      Exactly what I was thinking

    • @yannikoloff7659
      @yannikoloff7659 4 года назад +2

      No it's not. Choose a original Berlingo van for that.You don't wanna pay for car conversion to convert it to camper after that

    • @granthostheflatulent
      @granthostheflatulent 4 года назад +5

      I have converted my second gen Berlingo to an occasional camper with all lift out fittings (Car and camper - best of both) - I just looked at this video because was considering getting a new one, having had 5 years of high milage, trouble free motoring (Starting to show her age after 22k miles a year for 5 years). The rear seats on this new version are no longer lift out units. The dropped floor space is very useful and I think filling that with folded seat is a backwards step. Think I shall keep my Blingy for many more years and spend some money on her (It's just been tyres, fuel and routine servicing only so far). Great car.

    • @Dadaadad268
      @Dadaadad268 3 года назад

      @@yannikoloff7659 it is. You keep the seats and buy a boot jump kit

    • @roberthardy3090
      @roberthardy3090 3 года назад +1

      @@yannikoloff7659 I bought a second hand Bootjump for mine (little more expensive than making my own in just materials) makes an excellent occasional camper as well as retaining all five seats.

  • @johnbristow8099
    @johnbristow8099 3 месяца назад

    One retrograde step with the more modern Berlingos (I have a 2012 model) is that the front door window controls have been moved from the centre console onto the doors themselves, so that a driver cannot operate the passenger side window, which I have occasionally found useful. Other than that it is an absolutely brilliant car.

  • @yasserbadreldin2058
    @yasserbadreldin2058 5 лет назад +22

    A like for the baby... congratulations

  • @asherlopezsioson8927
    @asherlopezsioson8927 5 лет назад +3

    I like the funky design

  • @veggiebiker
    @veggiebiker 5 лет назад +3

    weird that people have an aversion to the van shape, I couldn't care less if looked like a brick-practicality is all that matters [to me]. Hope they've sorted the self disintegrating rear axle which cost me best part of 1k to replace in my 07 Peugeot partner combi.

  • @NorthernBirdBoy
    @NorthernBirdBoy 5 лет назад +2

    Congratulations and all the best for 2019!

  • @shughume
    @shughume 5 лет назад +15

    It's annoying me that she mentions the Vauxhall Combo and Peugeot Rifter a few times but doesn't address the fact that they're all badge engineered version of the same vehicle... PSA Group dominating the sector that, arguably, they created.

    • @660einzylinder
      @660einzylinder 5 лет назад +4

      ......and both more expensive for a given trim level.

  • @danielbulgaria7988
    @danielbulgaria7988 5 лет назад +4

    Citroen is religion!
    ❤️❤️❤️

  • @sportivo_awd
    @sportivo_awd 5 лет назад +7

    Well done review. Rebeacca maybe this particular car, soon will be the right one for you?

  • @baryonyx9642
    @baryonyx9642 5 лет назад +9

    I'm starting to like the Berlingo..

    • @simon3824
      @simon3824 5 лет назад +3

      Kynigos 96
      They may not look cool... but it’s the most practical vehicle I have owned.will replace my mk 2 for this soon!

  • @malcolmabram2957
    @malcolmabram2957 5 лет назад +5

    If you are happy to observe speed limits and respect other people's right of way, and moreover not image conscious, a Citroen does exactly the same things as a Bugatti or Ferrari and will not get you there any slower.

  • @jamiep61
    @jamiep61 5 лет назад +2

    Great Video Review. Looking forward to the Video Reviews during 2019

  • @gil7555
    @gil7555 5 лет назад +4

    Pour votre futur BÉBÉ, Ce véhicule semble parfait pour vous , Chère Rebecca !.
    Sincères Compliments .

  • @rinoj_jossy
    @rinoj_jossy 5 лет назад +3

    First viewer!! 😊, Merry Christmas WHAT CAR! 🎅

  • @hermanhayes750
    @hermanhayes750 5 лет назад +2

    I love my Berlingo.

  • @cobbvd
    @cobbvd 5 лет назад +1

    Three weeks as I am owner of this excellent car ! Even color is the same...

  • @candacebrown1977
    @candacebrown1977 4 года назад +1

    Shouldn't post clear view licence plate ... get a cover and protect that

  • @Hertog_von_Berkshire
    @Hertog_von_Berkshire 5 лет назад +1

    3:13, "when you use it, it's quite tricky to use".

  • @timredfern1282
    @timredfern1282 5 лет назад +1

    Welcome back Rebecca 👍

  • @cobbvd
    @cobbvd 5 лет назад +1

    Tomorrow I will order exactly such one for me....

  • @cobbvd
    @cobbvd 5 лет назад +1

    That's my car. I've bought exactly such one.

  • @BIGS2300
    @BIGS2300 4 года назад +2

    Can you please do a review and comparison between these six small cargo vans.
    Citroen Berlingo, Volkswagen Caddy, Fiat Doblo, Ford Transit Connect, Renault Kangoo and Peugeot Partner.
    All vans in manual transmission, preferably in diesel.
    Thank you! 🙏

    • @sniperoulis
      @sniperoulis 3 года назад

      TOYOTA,take a look with the PROACE VERSO CITY.5 years warranty-berlingo and the others from PSA 3years.

  • @ja_peter
    @ja_peter 4 года назад

    thanks for review lovely car

  • @davidhayes4814
    @davidhayes4814 5 лет назад +2

    Fits three abroad, with comfort? Well if you are Rebecca’s size, perhaps.... but she didn’t do a convincing job of demonstrating that three full size adults will fit comfortably. (six foot plus 90kg blokes.... yes that is pretty average now). Why have this type of car unless it can fit seven with ample luggage? Almost none of them can and they are not bargains either. If you get any full size van of almost any make, (SWB 5m), with 7/8 seats, at two/three years old, 120bhp diesel, they are magic everywhere...

    • @miskatonic6210
      @miskatonic6210 5 лет назад

      Vans are more expensive. And the long version can fit more.

  • @carleshgarcia
    @carleshgarcia 5 лет назад +1

    In Mexico this car is the Peugeot Parter Tepee

  • @tomrblx3917
    @tomrblx3917 Год назад +1

    She called a wine bottle water💀

  • @webaruhazberles
    @webaruhazberles 4 года назад

    your are talking about a family car, you should show the space with 7 sets set.

  • @scousernorm
    @scousernorm 3 года назад

    Flippin hell I flippin love it man, - all over this I am m8

  • @philipnowak7088
    @philipnowak7088 3 года назад

    I am nine years old but I know that the citroen and other French cars like Peugeot citroen and more French cars have bad electronics but I do like this car

    • @volt8684
      @volt8684 2 года назад

      Not all. My berlingo is 17yrs old not a single problem

  • @ikybaiiki
    @ikybaiiki 5 лет назад +1

    But there's a 100 & 130 Bhp Hdi engine as well.

  • @Riso-Musik
    @Riso-Musik 5 лет назад

    I've test driven the automatic version and it handles pretty well. Not too wallowy but acceleration is bad from a start. Almost got squashed on a roundabout even with foot on the floor; it's got a rev limiter which doesn't help.

  • @Ashmodai
    @Ashmodai 5 лет назад +3

    great car, but i prefer the Rifter :)

  • @timjefferson1886
    @timjefferson1886 4 года назад

    PSA needs to offerthis as an EV; there seems to be enough space under the floor for a battery pack. Perhaps they could use a similar motor and battery pack as in the eCorsa (100 kW, 50 kWh, 205 mile range).

  • @julesdon5
    @julesdon5 5 лет назад +1

    yes i was thinking the same

  • @tomas9830
    @tomas9830 5 лет назад +1

    I love her so much, she so cool

  • @louisbrizzolara7209
    @louisbrizzolara7209 5 лет назад

    The new Pontiac Aztec! And, they said it was too ugly to last.

  • @alfredvalrie5541
    @alfredvalrie5541 5 лет назад +1

    Scarves and gowns, guys, scarves and gowns

  • @kodzpakpluk2877
    @kodzpakpluk2877 5 лет назад +2

    I prefer the Peugoet Rifter

  • @stefdnk4428
    @stefdnk4428 5 лет назад +1

    Looks very safe when she operates the touch screen with her right hand. Imagine doing that at 70mph. And the phone in the other hand of course, texting. Never understood why these screens? You can’ t operate while driving . Or you Shouldn’t .

  • @foppo100
    @foppo100 5 лет назад

    True mpg for the 1.5 diesel I reckon about 50mpg.Just be honest about the mileage figures correct me if i am wrong.

    • @GadgetMart
      @GadgetMart 5 лет назад

      I’m getting 54mpg from my 10 year old 1.6 HDi

    • @Boemel
      @Boemel 5 лет назад

      @@GadgetMart same here when i had mine

    • @roberthardy3090
      @roberthardy3090 3 года назад

      I get 49mpg from my 92bhp hdi

  • @sarwatjahandipty1529
    @sarwatjahandipty1529 5 лет назад +1

    If you guys think that this is among the best suvs,,then check out Toyota alphard or velfire then you would know how beautiful can a mpv look like...

    • @marc_hm_
      @marc_hm_ 5 лет назад +1

      🤢 🤮🤢 🤮🤢 🤮 these Toyotas look nice? Really?

    • @frankyduschek3366
      @frankyduschek3366 5 лет назад

      Yes. But less bootspace

  • @thebanditsix
    @thebanditsix 5 лет назад +3

    Rebecca reviewed same car in 2012 when she wasn't up the duff.

    • @Rusiputki
      @Rusiputki 5 лет назад +3

      Oh thats right, she was the banana girl! Every hidden compartment had a banana, looks like she finally managed to get pregnant from one. Took her several chassis to get there...

  • @unknown5612
    @unknown5612 3 года назад

    Plz change the back side design of this car..

  • @MajorSpam
    @MajorSpam 5 лет назад +4

    I'd rather take the C4 Picasso / Spacetourer.

  • @mieenleyt8766
    @mieenleyt8766 3 года назад

    ❤️❤️love it

  • @palmirapedro4897
    @palmirapedro4897 5 лет назад +1

    How many seats is the Berlingo car?

    • @F1Kamel_1992
      @F1Kamel_1992 5 лет назад

      There are five seats but if you want a longer wheelbase version, the Grand Berlingo you'll get seven seats

    • @Dadaadad268
      @Dadaadad268 3 года назад

      @@F1Kamel_1992 it’s not called a grand Berlingo 😂

  • @maltesephil
    @maltesephil 5 лет назад

    invacar blue? nice

  • @dirksolomon
    @dirksolomon 5 лет назад +57

    4:53 Rebecca pregnant?

  • @carolcooks1208
    @carolcooks1208 5 лет назад +2

    Is that Lenny Kravitz’s scarf ?

  • @markmorris738
    @markmorris738 5 лет назад

    She's going to be great mum

  • @Chriswales
    @Chriswales 5 лет назад +1

    The size of that scarf, it'll double as a papoose in a few months ...

  • @msnpassjan2004
    @msnpassjan2004 4 года назад +1

    Shame the seats won't fold all the way flat

  • @bourdon845
    @bourdon845 4 года назад

    Intéressant

  • @capitanvonchickenpants8492
    @capitanvonchickenpants8492 3 года назад +1

    Tie that scarf up inside and you'll have a hammock

  • @simonecleynen4842
    @simonecleynen4842 5 лет назад +2

    Citroen

  • @shanjanusman9974
    @shanjanusman9974 5 лет назад +3

    Quirky for a people carrier lol

  • @matthanna7162
    @matthanna7162 3 года назад

    Is that the world's biggest scarf?

  • @anitabrook5741
    @anitabrook5741 5 лет назад

    Thank F*** for that, the lovely Rebecca has finally lost the "sing song" presentation style, and is now watchable

  • @respectmyprivacy2496
    @respectmyprivacy2496 5 лет назад

    Who's been breading this one

  • @anishprabha84
    @anishprabha84 5 лет назад +2

    വാവ നെ കാതിരിക് ആണലോ ..🙏🏻

  • @caroljohnston8229
    @caroljohnston8229 3 года назад

    Loads of space to fill up with rubbish You can even put Bananas in the side to go rotton! Lovely

  • @candacebrown1977
    @candacebrown1977 4 года назад

    Is it an actual dime? Is it dime the dog? Or is it a dime bag? Will never find out

  • @Fludded
    @Fludded 5 лет назад

    I wish you’d started with a tour of the vehicle with less of the waffly intro...

    • @EPCRh
      @EPCRh 5 лет назад

      agree

  • @twisterwiper
    @twisterwiper 5 лет назад

    Why on earth isn’t there a power outlet at the back seats? Don’t French kids use iPads?

    • @CosgroveNotts
      @CosgroveNotts 5 лет назад

      You don't need Ipads if you are a good parent

    • @twisterwiper
      @twisterwiper 5 лет назад

      @@CosgroveNotts What nonsense. Has nothing to do with being a good parent.
      Luckily the Rifter has a USB power outlet.

    • @CosgroveNotts
      @CosgroveNotts 5 лет назад

      @@twisterwiper the French are more creative than Brits and no need for wires, it's obvious or they would fit them

  • @michaelforeman8135
    @michaelforeman8135 5 лет назад +1

    Looks like your pregnant Rebecca. Congratulations! As regards to the Berlingo I would think you would need a fairly substantial family, dogs and so on to have a reason for buying it.

  • @toddy505
    @toddy505 5 лет назад +3

    Is she wearing that humongous scarf for a bet ? lol

  • @honestryan487
    @honestryan487 5 лет назад +1

    Cool

  • @miskatonic6210
    @miskatonic6210 5 лет назад +1

    I drove the Vauxhall and it drove like a pregnant cow, steering wasn't precise at all and the bulky dashboard and front didn't help visibility. The gearbox was horrible, too. After my first impression the test drive was a disappointment. I'd rather get a van.

  • @stefanpruszkiewicz8919
    @stefanpruszkiewicz8919 4 года назад

    She finally found proper banana. Congrats

  • @kennykedemkemeh9731
    @kennykedemkemeh9731 9 месяцев назад

    Is she pregnant?

  • @scotiajinker8392
    @scotiajinker8392 5 лет назад +2

    Wipe clean dash , in other words cheap hard plastic. In my opinion it lets the car down badly. If these cars had a decent dash I would have bought the rifter.

    • @mdog2501
      @mdog2501 5 лет назад +2

      When you have a family, you want the interior to be easy to clean.

    • @scotiajinker8392
      @scotiajinker8392 5 лет назад

      Matthew Douglas or you could teach your kids to behave.

    • @mdog2501
      @mdog2501 5 лет назад

      @@scotiajinker8392 try telling that to a 2 year old... Good luck.
      Why on earth would you want plush plastics. They're just going to get ruined. Wipe clean and hard wearing plastic are the best for this type of vehicle.

    • @scotiajinker8392
      @scotiajinker8392 5 лет назад

      Matthew Douglas seriously you can’t control a 2yo? Why won’t I want a nice interior? I would be paying over £20k for God’s sake , that’s why I would want a nice interior. The plastic on this car the should be priced at £15k

    • @mdog2501
      @mdog2501 5 лет назад

      I don't consider the touch of the interior important untill £30.k. I personally think the interior looks good. Certainly an improvement over the outgoing model.

  • @DalilaBoualaoui
    @DalilaBoualaoui 3 года назад

    ااااوووواه برليڨو لولا خير منها شابة عليها بزاف حطة هاذي بهدلتولها الواجهة ماعجبتنيش 😬

  • @djnigellove
    @djnigellove 5 лет назад

    all that fruit wrapped in plastic - wah, wah, waahh humanity

  • @mikalikesmeme1380
    @mikalikesmeme1380 5 лет назад

    I am a Citroën 😂

  • @minniesaab7255
    @minniesaab7255 5 лет назад +2

    👍👍👍👍👍

  • @northwestern492
    @northwestern492 5 лет назад +1

    Not much room for your baby bump Rebecca xx

  • @MartinLV.
    @MartinLV. 5 лет назад +3

    Congrats for pregnancy!
    Best mpv costs half, wears Dacia badge and does the job.

    • @TheBenoff
      @TheBenoff 5 лет назад

      As owner of the Dacia Dokker (with all extras available at the time) I still strongly consider the new Berlingo. Of course a full spec new Dacia costs half of a full spec Berlingo .. but thinking of my "other" driver now, the automatic parking, front and side sensors and other extras available will pay themselves off in no time ;)

  • @tommyolsen8224
    @tommyolsen8224 5 лет назад +2

    Ugly car. 😣

  • @MercuryCater
    @MercuryCater 5 лет назад +2

    It's not an MPV, just a van

    • @foppo100
      @foppo100 5 лет назад

      Does it matter? What it is called it does the job it meant to do.

  • @interceptor-ss8kb
    @interceptor-ss8kb 5 лет назад +1

    Its a commercial vehicle it has no appeal to a family.

    • @andymccabe6712
      @andymccabe6712 5 лет назад +2

      Err, no it isn't - and yes it does ....

    • @interceptor-ss8kb
      @interceptor-ss8kb 5 лет назад +2

      @@andymccabe6712 its a berlingo van dressed up to be a family car, im sorry but its still a Van. What family man would seriously want that on their drive over an suv nobody. Its only appeal has been to the elderly and motabilty market true fact.

    • @bmwman1981
      @bmwman1981 5 лет назад +1

      interceptor1986 and the taxi market

    • @Boemel
      @Boemel 5 лет назад +2

      @@interceptor-ss8kb because its alot cheaper to buy this than a suv ? and u put the seats down its an actual van and u can carry a whole pallet of bricks ... i would buy my berlingo a second time without hesitation.

    • @interceptor-ss8kb
      @interceptor-ss8kb 5 лет назад

      @@Boemel shows you have no interest in cars.

  • @abrahkadabra9501
    @abrahkadabra9501 5 лет назад

    Well it wouldn't be Europe in winter without a pretty presenter with an obscenely long "cravate".
    Why do Europeans need so much warmth on the neck? 😕

    • @AnonTriple
      @AnonTriple 5 лет назад +2

      Maybe cuz it's cold wtf

  • @murphyebass7837
    @murphyebass7837 5 лет назад

    Pregars and would still get it. Ironic that she’s now reviewing mpvs. Lol

  • @MrDunk74
    @MrDunk74 5 лет назад +3

    I love your reviews but you've had some really rubbish cars

  • @bmwman1981
    @bmwman1981 5 лет назад

    It’s a commercial van with windows with the added problem of french electrical issues and every other fault you can imagine

    • @foppo100
      @foppo100 5 лет назад +3

      Keep on dreaming and what did you expect a bmw and a boy racer? These cars are well designed with strong engines and do what they supposed to do carry people and luggage.

  • @luzsol1609
    @luzsol1609 5 лет назад +5

    citroen are scamers . my fuel pump is broke and now i find they installed the fuel pump under the fuel tank and i cant get there . now i have an unecessary problem . Citroen never again .

    • @shughume
      @shughume 5 лет назад +4

      How is that a scam? Where would you have them put the fuel pump? In the glove compartment?

    • @luzsol1609
      @luzsol1609 5 лет назад +1

      +Scotia you think this is a joke ? are you seriously ? i simply cant acesse it i will have to shop the metal to open acess to it .

    • @shughume
      @shughume 5 лет назад +5

      @@luzsol1609 But how does that make Citroën scammers? And what do you mean chop the metal? What metal? The rear floor? Drop the fuel tank down instead...

    • @luzsol1609
      @luzsol1609 5 лет назад +1

      +Scotia this cars aren't made by ignorant people they are made and design by engineers. they did put the pump in a place with no acess and they no it will be necessary to replace at some time . they are not innocent they made it to difficult the continued use of the product they design. this is a scam if some poor people would do a scam like this would go to jail . but they are so rich and powerfull so is normal and we have to acept . until we put some yelow vest an go violent .

    • @shughume
      @shughume 5 лет назад +6

      @@luzsol1609 There's a thousand and one things taken into consideration when designing a car. Cost effectiveness, ease of manufacture, safety, space constraints to name but a few. To suggest that the fuel pump was made deliberately difficult by some sort of illuminati is frankly, ridiculous. There's a plethora of cars out there where certain aspects of maintenance aren't straightforward, it's nothing to do with stepping on the proletariat. Maybe you should have bought a VAZ 2105 instead? And again, drop the fuel tank out of the car and you won't need to cut the floor.

  • @theferryman4916
    @theferryman4916 5 лет назад

    Driving on the left side of the road is just wrong...

  • @sheikhy
    @sheikhy 5 лет назад +1

    What a sh*te car inside and out. You’d have to be blind to buy this.

  • @FrightfulAccountant
    @FrightfulAccountant 5 лет назад +1

    They always get bought by people that don't know how to drive. Anyway...
    What Citroen has done is putting the uglyst girl of town in a designer outfit and call it sexy. It isn't, it never will be. This is a van loaded with a bit too much French way of thinkinng...