Luxury Van Build Cost Breakdown | Is Van Life Still Worth it in 2024?
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Welcome back to another video. This week we dive into the cost of our van and hopefully determine if Vanlife is still worth is in 2024...
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You should try a price restriction challenge. Try to build a van for under 30k. I'm sure a lot of people who do van life probably don't have 90k and the skills to build these beautiful homes
Funny you should mention that.. haha we are working on a little project that’s a much smaller budget.
@@scarletandseth I'm excited to see it when you guys are ready to post it! I always look forward to the vibes you guys bring in your videos. Very inspirational and meditative. Good luck!
I mean, they only spent around $26,000 on the build out - so theoretically one could get a used rig for much cheaper than $62k and do it for significantly cheaper (if they have the requisite skills of course).
@jayem8981 ha that's actually a good point
@@jayem8981 this is a good point! Lots of good deals on vans right now too! The used marked is very low. To be fair the MSRP was actually only $56k. We included the interest on the loan in that payment as well which brought it over a year to $60+k
Median price for a "normal " stationary residence in the United States... $300k-$400k.
Add to this , Interest on the mortgage..Insurance..Taxes..Maintenance..Utilities and services for a 2,500 - 4,000 Sq.Ft. structure. Want to go away for a 2 week vacation or just a long weekend?... your stationary home is empty..an easy target for burglers and vandalism.
For an individual or a couple, a mobile residence and a small.. 1/4 to 1 acre piece of land listed as a "garden plot, wood lot,or seasonal camp site" may be a much better alternative. This certainly will not be the solution for everyone.. but in todays world living a comfortable reasonably affordable life requires being flexible in our tactics.
A good bit of advice to consider...
Those who will not use the brains and skills they have are no better off than those who have none. They are by their own choice subject to the will and control of those who would be their masters.
Your life.
Your choice.
Your builds are absolutely incredible, they're the original reason why I followed you guys. I was absolutely blown away with how sophisticated, modern and at times futuristic looking your builds are. It's like a genuine, real small apartment, but on wheels. And it's gorgeous, practical, and has all the amnesties you need. I could never understand people who are fine not having a shower, or a toilet, or miss even a small fridge, etc, in their vans. You guys squeeze in absolutely everything essential (even an oven? !), and you do it built-in, and cleverly. Absolutely incredible.
Thanks for the kind words! We’ve spent a long time trying to maximize tiny spaces and absolutely love our van. ❤️
Congratulations Your Van Build has a really superb wow effect.
It really is a stunning van
Why is everthing so expensive in the U.S, are the taxes mega high ?
Mainly large corporations charging higher prices due to greed. This specifically happened a lot during the pandemic where all the vehicle manufacturers hiked the prices. The taxes are also quite high on everything yes.
I followed you through the whole build process on your van, and I think you've done the most impressive, high quality job I've ever seen. Your attention to detail is amazing.
Thanks so much! 😊
Awesome build! I am currently building and have already spent a lot on mistakes but I think it’s worth it because I learned from those mistakes!
Very true! Mistakes are part of the process!
Where tha hell do you learn electrical?thats my hang up
Thank you for the list of the costs for the expansion. The prices have also risen in Europe, especially in Germany and the Nordic countries, the expansion costs a lot of money.
I'm glad, not everywhere in the EU costs so much to rebuild, because the wages in some Eastern European countries are very low, like in Romania everything in euros for skilled workers who deliver good quality 11.00 and Bulgaria 9.30 Hungary 12.80, Poland 11.60..
Bro how are these things so expensive my house is modern and my literal bedroom is 5 times bigger than a van and it’s the smallest in our house 😭😭 plus our house and five acre property all together is 300k
You guys are amazing. Thanks for sharing this. I just bought my first empty van (in Australia) and am starting to save for the actual build. It’s VERY scary but videos like this and your patreon will certainly help. Thank you! 🙌
Glad you found it helpful! Luckily Australia seems to have a bit of a better market at least for vehicles. Hope all goes well on the build and we are stoked for you!
Absolutely stunning van. Well done!
It's beautiful, immaculate.
Love the high roof.most vans are not high roof.
This van looks like a house.
Wow this van cost Soo much 😮😮
Fr my bedroom and bathroom are 5 times bigger than that thing and it still doesn’t even cost that much
Beautiful work...very helpful info...thoughtful and candid...
Thank y'all.
HEBEL EST OMNIS ADAM
You dont buy 8020 thats a BRAND and they are like the Mercedes brand. Look up tnutz my dude. I built my camper fixtures for half what you did using it and it was far FAR less labor intensive the material is stronger and lighter. You plan it out, it comes precut with the fittings. My kids and I put them together with a couple of allen wrenches watching a movie. Granted this is obviously just the frames. Hinges, slides, drawers and faces are the same.
True. I’ve heard a lot of negative reviews about tnutz not being as precise as 8020. I’d also be very interested to know how much weight is saved over frameless wood cabinets. It seems like it would be similar since I haven’t found 8020 to be incredibly light on its own and it still needs to be covered. The precision and strength are definitely positives though!
@@scarletandseth I was a non structural engineer for 15 years building support frames out of strut and extruded aluminum. They are extremely durable. I wouldn't use tnutz for applications I designed back then as they are extreme conditions of live load(that's when I'd use 8020). However, A cabinet in a camper that will never be near the max load? Sure, I am using the aluminum extrusion brand that is 50% off. I still use many 8020 brackets though as the connections are important and they have MUCH cooler ones for many fun applications like bed frame rails on slides, load bearing hinges, etc.
@@edgeofnothing67 yeah that make sense! We have done some stuff with 8020 like beds or slide outs and they do have some really great hinges, brackets and accessories!
@@scarletandseth oh, as to weight. The frame compared to wood is a third the weight. It can also support longer lengths/heights than wood. The 10 series aluminum can be used for every application of any dimension in a van, except a bed frame and even the frame i use 15 series because the connections are more robust which is where the failures are not in the length of aluminum
This break down is extremely appreciated guys! 😊
You two have built some beautiful vans...I hope you continue to build more of them. May I ask what marine hatches you used; they look top notch. Thank you.
Thank you! We are actually about to start a little build project here shortly! The boat hatches are both from Mann ship and we love them!
What software do you use to design your van build?
Interesting video. I love your van because it looks cozy and homey. I feel every inch of it was well thought out, even for the ladies. We have a van and would like to go out on weekends and vacations etc., until retirement and then we'll probably travel more. It's always on my mind how much we'll need in the van to be comfortable but not to over do it budget wise so I appreciate this video. Take care out there.
Very informative,great video.Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching. Glad you enjoyed it!
Why don't builders use carbon fiber? It is much lighter in weight and very strong. Thoughts?
I think it would be extremely hard to mold and very expensive. lots of boats use carbon fiber though!
@@scarletandseth If someone took the time and made the mold for a MB or Promaster, couldn't they just sell it? It upfront cost would be high, once the mold is made then you have another opportunity.
Great video! It’s been great to follow the build, it looks amazing! 👏🏾
Hi ya always so interesting, take care and stay safe cheers from Australia 🇦🇺🚐♻️❤️
I love your designs,
Haven't watched the whole video yet so mebs im jumping the gun, but are you only interior? Also a promaster is a deal killer. Id want a tall long (ie the biggest i can find) all wheel transit on a lift kit. Can u work on those?
We only specifically specialize on interiors. We have a good relationship with a shop out in San Diego who could do a full interior/ext. build potentially with us as the builders for the inside.
They look like siblings
Hello to you both and the ladies! Im curious about your oven and have tried looking for a decent. Would you mind telling us the brand and model you have? Please and thank you! Hope you're doing well!
We have the breville convection oven. We like it a lot but it pulls a ton of power and needs a large inverter to run!
@@scarletandseth Thank you, kindly!
Awesome video
Adore the lighting
Had me at the "honestly in this economy" LOL very true
Our economy is strong. Inflation is the real issue.
How much does it weigh and what's the van's GVWR?
GVWR is 9,350 lbs. our van weighs about 7,800 lbs. with everything loaded in it!
Really for the gorgeous van you have The cost is worth it!!
Thank you!
So pretty! It really is like a tiny luxury apartment on wheels. Well done!
Thank you!
Outrageous, a new ram ducato is 32,000 euros here in Ireland
Yeah the US market is insane.
I love this style
Also, you love your water capacity and are grateful you have it but wouldnt do it again or recommend it. Is that because the install was difficult or???
Yeah the install was super tough!
@@scarletandseth Gotcha, thanks for answering both of my questions! ♥️♥️
What is the 80/20 you talked about?
It’s an aluminum extrude that people use to frame out their vans!
Link for the skylight please? 🙏
It was a custom order from Mann ship!
Do you guys have the van back yet? Hope so ❤
Unfortunately no.. we have an update next week on that.
I miss when vanlife's meaning was living a cheap and free nomad life, not a game of who can spend the most money..
I still don’t think it’s a game of who can spend the most. We spent just over $10k including the vehicle and lived in that van for 4 years when we started. Because we want to do this for a long time we chose to invest more into this van.
Some people want and can afford these upgrades to improve their comfort levels
Some people want and can afford these upgrades to improve their comfort levels
thanks guys , love your build....may i ask, how is the Roman Clay holding up, would you recommend?
It’s holding up really well! However the application process is pretty intense and takes a while. Other than that we like it a lot. The shower had to be separately waterproofed since the finish itself is not water proof.
@@scarletandseth thanks so much guys for the reply. i'm going to start my van in the spring of 2025, and would love to do a consultation with you beforehand, will be in touch : )
@@SillyMonkeys For sure! We are here any time you need us!
Beautiful van toy not necessary, I don't understand why so many people are building these outrageously priced luxury vans, the whole idea of getting out on the road was minimalism this is not minimalism and it's literally pricing other people right out of the market
I disagree that we’ve priced anyone out of the market by building this van for ourselves. As we said in the video we lived in a low roof 2004 van that we spent a total of $14,000 on in 2018 for 4 years before we chose to build this for ourselves. We knew we wanted to do it full time for another 5+ years and that we wanted a lot of features that coast a lot. That’s not to say you still can’t do it on a budget just because we chose not to on this van though. If we live in this for 5 years we will have spent a total of about $115k (including our first van) on housing for a decade which is about as inexpensive as you could hope.
Have you guys ever considered a paid tutorial for a start to finish build like this? Making this more assessable for many ?
Beautiful work btw ❤
Some people want and can afford these upgrades to improve their comfort levels
Some people want and can afford these upgrades to improve their comfort levels. Plus , jealous enough
Some people want and can afford these upgrades to improve their comfort levels. Plus , jealous enough