AGHHH…MY NAMES JOHN WAGNER. I LIKE SERIOUS VIDEOS ONLY. IF THEY ARENT SERIOUS, I GET UPSET. SILLINESS IS THE WORK OF THE DEVIL. IN MY DAY, WE DIDNT ALLOW SILLINESS, NOT TO MENTION GAS WAS ONLY 35 CENTS PER GALLON. DID I FORGET TO MENTION HOW MUCH I HATE ELECTRIC VEHICLES FOR NO GOOD REASON? THEY’RE TOO SILLY. I NEED TO CHANGE MY DIAPER, AND THAT ISNT SILLY, ITS A SERIOUS PROBLEM.
@@CarsAndZebras I see your videos are still off the chain hilarious!!! Have you heard of the 428CJ?...That engine was guaranteed to give wood... because it had a "wooden" cam... because when you revved it up it went : "wooden wooden".... 😂😂😂😂
I would have dropped the torino rear air pressure down to , say 18lbs.With the ford driver not knowing how to handle that top loader a c-6 could of been a huge lift !
I had a 68 GTX back in the day. No PS, PB or A/C. Just a ton of torque. Great memories of the four barrel opening, the smell of raw gas dumping into that big motor, and being brutally shoved back in my bucket seat. What a ride.
What the hell kind of crazy stuff are you watching to get the hysterical content anyway? Lmfao!!! You're one beautiful sick and funny individual!!! Btw, I love it!!!
The Ford is amazing. Love it. I owned a 1969 GTX, auto, ps, pb and air conditioning. Bought it from the original owner in 1971. Looked just like the RR in this race. Great Race. Good to see you. Thanks
Great video I'm a chevy guy but I've always had a soft spot for a GTX and that SUPER COBRA JET IS REALLY SUPER SWEET both running 13s awesome. Thanks for the video.👊
Lol, you made me a subscriber. Your videos are very entertaining...and yes on the silly side but it's your channel, do what you want. Making people smile is a good thing especially with all the troubles in the world. Those who don't like your style can watch other car channels.
The Torino Cobra had a quite a Top End Charge, thanks to those big Super Cobra Jet Heads and Solid Lifter Cam. The 70 Torino Cobra is my favorite Ford from back in the day, ain't nothing like a Super Cobra Jet backed up by a Top Loader and 4.30,s. Motor Trend liked it also, was there Muscle Car of the year for 1970.
@@ricktaylor3748 Nope. This same Torino raced a 440(390hp) Cuda with 4.10 gears and 4speed shown here on C&Z and the Torino won both races so I wouldn't say that low gears would have this GTX 'vaporize' the Torino. Automatic trans is a huge advantage in stock tire racing.
Good to see ya back buddy 🦓 happy to see your funky sense of humor is still here too lol! Great race between two automotive giants, I've always been a pro Mopar kinda guy, but I also respect Ford and love Torino's and this one sure hauled some ass too! Great race and great cars brotha! 😎👍
@CudaRebelsCarsandDiecast Hi my friend😉 Fantastic stock drag race, isn't it? The third round was a GTX power! I know you call it "Gee Tee Exterminator". But I would say rather "Gee Tyrannosaurus reX"😎
@@plymouthdie-castreplicas I totally agree brotha! I always enjoy C&Z drag races, and I love the way you worded it! "Gee T-ReX" sounds perfect, in fact I'm gonna write that one down lol! 😁👍
Good day C & Z, About time the best of 3 & your humor came back it has been missing for so so long. Extremely suprised by the times of the GTX more so with the 3,23:1 arse end ratio. Hope you are well coming into your summer absolutely gorgeous day here in Melbourne, Australia. Cheers Louis Kats your number 1 Fan in Australia. ☺👍
Two big ones battling it out - great driving by both. Interesting to play the pre-race game with engine stats, weight, and rear gearing. Several laugh out loud moments - thank you as always! ~ Chuck
@@CarsAndZebras the big muscle also the 1971 mustang besides this car and also early brochure boss 429 engine available but change later on only mustang for 1970 and 1971 boss 302 boss 429 boss 351 but change
How can you say both great drivers. That clown operating the torino standing on the gas , going nowhere in race 2 an 3 . He made a joke of himself !Nothing great about him ! You obviously haven't a clue !
Driving a clutch car at the strip takes talent and practice. You already have enough to think about without controlling your rpm and your clutch pedal. And with those wimpy tires that torino could burn them through the 1/4. Notice the dodges consistency? Thats why most people prefer an Automatic in drag racing. But if the ford guy worked on his suspension, trim that 300 pounds off the car,going around the road chickens would be no problem 😊.
The weight of the Torino was suprising, didn't realize they were that heavy. Silliness aside, I still thoroughly enjoy your videos and yes I'm subscribed.
Awesome video, eleven and a half minutes of a good time on the track. Both cars were nice, but that GTX is one of my favorites. Thanks for another great video Cars and Zebras.
Glad to see a new vid. Always Here for the low brow humor and info ...stay for the races . Now that spring is threatening to stick around , I can look forward to more vids more often. Great stuff as always.
A buddy of mine had a '69 GTX with dual quads on a cross-ram intake and dual point distributor. Couldn't tune it for peak HP because the rockers weren't adjustable and he couldn't afford to buy adjustable push rods or a variety of different length ones to set valve lash. He wound up selling it. JMO.
Car Seat? Family of 5 children, one on the package tray, Two across the rear hump with support, and two on the rear seat! NASA was everything and child safety was unheard of! Those were awesome times and I love my youth! What the "F" happened to the USA!
This is hilarious. Right now, as I watch this video I just sold my 68 Charger and I have my 70 GS 455 for sale. My Charger was only a 383/4bbl but my GS is the same Diplomat Blue. Great to see a new video, I miss having a new one every week. I know it must be a lot of work but they are still some of the best videos on RUclips!!!
Thank you for making such great Muscle Car videos - really appreciate your ability to combine the video, statistics on the cars & your sense of humor - I’m always laughing like a Hyena at those one-liners - thanks again!!
GREAT MATCH UP BOTH CARS ARE TOP CONTENDERS ... THE TORINO DRAG PACK SUPRISED ME. I KNOW THAT MOPAR HAS A CAST CRANK ..TOO BAD THE TORINO DIDN'T HAVE THE HIDEAWAY HEADLIGHTS THEY REALLY LOOKED GREAT ... THANKS FOR ANOTHER GREAT MATCH UP AND GREAT VIDEO WITH ALL THE FUN FACTS ... YOUR FORMAT IS PERFECT DON'T TRY TO IMPROVE IT .... IT'S PERFECT THE WAY IT IS !!!!
Cast cranks came in later 440 engines- after '72. They were common in New Yorkers, other C bodies. This GTX 440 (if original) was forged. Even if the 440 was non-original, the mechanic/owner would select a forged equipped replacement.
@@dodgecharger4404 SOUNDS REASONABLE THAT IF THE OWNER WOULD SPEND A SMALL FORTUNE ON A CAR .... A FORGED CRANK WOULD BE NECESSARY ..... THE 440 SIX PACK WAS A FORMIDABLE ENGINE I HAVE SEEN 340 DUSTER BEAT AND SHAME A ZL1 CAMARO .... THINK I WOULD RATHER HAVE THE 440 RATHER THAN THE HEMI SIMPLY DUE TO PRICE .....
@@jimmeyer7632 Most 440s ddint rpm enough to need a steel crank Those crappy heads may have helped it with driveable torque but not much upstairs. The SCJ on the other hand sucked on the st or strip without real deep gears
@@CarsAndZebras We should rename you Dr Demento! The clip with Leno was straight up funny as hell . Cant believe dudes get on here to tell you humor is immmature! Like they are frigging Mr Hand preaching to Spicoli!
Welcome back, C&Z! Awesome race...but why would anyone order a GTX with 3.23 gears?? Plymouth still pulled out the victory, but I like the looks of the Torino way better. Thanks for posting! 👍😎
THey didnt need a low gear they made so much low-midrange tq it stayed in its powerband longer and could still cruise the fwy . The fords engine with the almost too big heads and solid lift cam needs deep gears or they feel like a pooch. Know that one well
I like Ford... But I guessed the Mopar to be the winner so no matter what happened, I'd be satisfied. That being say... The RB 440 is the sexiest vintage pushrod motor ever produced
@@michaelharrisson1683 The best "older" Ford engine is the 427 Period. The SOHC couldn't be called a production engine so I left that out but yes that is an incredible engine
@@bluesky-ud9wg I'm not talking about the best. And no it's not the 427... The 427 is just the most powerful... The best is is the small block 260, 289, 302.
It only takes about 2 hrs to change those 3:23 gears in that 8 3/4 in. GTX rear end. I went to the junkyard and got a 3:73 off a van pretty cheap. For such a small investment in time and money, it sure makes a big difference in takeoff. 😉👍
My buddy ordered this Torino new in late 69 for street racing in Philadelphia. It was originally orange and has no power steering or power brakes which were added. It slso was not a ram air version new. No console either. All to save weight. He granaded the SCJ in the early 70’s and the motor was rebuilt by Al Jonic. Yes that Al Jonic. He also had it painted the candy apple red in the mid 70’s. Dick cash owns it now and races it , and here it is
In stock form the GTX was rated fairly @375 horse power, but this Torino had a lot of exotic parts and was underrated @ 375 horse power. How is your SS 396????
Holy Carp Batman! A Great video. Talk about a nail-biter! Daayum! I`m Mopar until death, but I was sooo bummed for the Torino in that last race. Mulligan?!? Talk about close racing. Great cars great racing. I do question the odd number of races that are so common. Odd numbered races just don`t work fairly. For a huge example of a fair number to judge something. How about a court room? Think about it. An odd number of jurors simply would not work. The same with car racing. Thank You. (Have you noticed, that over the years, I have calmed down soo much? Well, except for tears of Joy!)
I like big fords and I can not lie GtXs are nice and fly muscle cars I can't decide when cnz starts the spin I click on in and get live ... Welcome back cnz now that grabber blue Mercury cyclone spoiler in the background of the cobra what about fine fendered bbmc (big beautiful Muscle car) will you be featuring the merc soon ?
I do have footage of it, but not great. Guy was having shifter issues, but it’s one quick car. Might get more footage of it later this year. I want to feature it, but when it’s fine-tuned
I hope so it's a beauty and one alot of folks may not know about. Those 429 cobra motors were made in Lima ohio buckeye power for wolverine sheet metal a little college football humor there
Compared to the 429 CJ, the Super Cobra Jet engine featured four-bolt mains, a precision-balanced forged crankshaft, forged-aluminum pistons that raised the compression ratio to 11.3:1, a high-lift solid-lifter camshaft, heavy-duty connecting rods secured with "football" bolts, unique harmonic balancer and flywheel, high-volume oil pump, unique cylinder heads, high-rise intake manifold, and 780-cfm Holley four-barrel carburetor. Motor Trend and other magazines testing this car in the 1/4 mile, turning 13.3 @ 109 mph. Amide reports of making 375 hp, the factory 1970 SCJ actually made 425 hp and 450 lbft.
Breaking 100mph in the 1/4 even in the 80s was said to be a decent st car 109 in 1970 wow. I was 2 yrs old then Fast st car no matter the brand...sure pulled good up top once the heads started working.
@@CarsAndZebras Listening to this right now. twenty years just fell off. I haven't heard this in so long. A different time. Thanks for replying! I just subscribed two days ago, looking forward to your next one
IN 69, THE ROADRUNNER WAS MOTOR TREND’S CAR OF THE YEAR , MUCH RESPECT TO FORD WITH THE BOSS IN 1970 , CHEVY HAD THE LS-6 , BUT THE PLYMOUTH CUDA AND DODGE CHALLENGER SMOKED IT WITH A FASTER QUARTER MILE TIME !!!!!
@@gordocarbo I WOULD BE REFERRING TO THE QUARTER MILE TESTS OF ROAD & TRACK OR MOTOR TREND TESTING !! 13.5 SEC. 70 HEMI CUDA , 70 LS - 6 CHEVELLE 13.8 SEC. HEAVIER CAR !!!
Myself had a 70 thunderbird with the 429 thunderjet motor. A living room on wheels Heading to a concert in Detroit the I-75 overpass that goes uphill towards Detroit I hit well over 130mph and the car started shaking so I let off. She still had more. That being said doing a burn out broke the frame in 1/2. That was her demise. I would have loved to have that motor in a Fairlane or stang.
Well the quickest (and best looking) car lost because the GTX had a more experienced driver. That Torino was the best looking one of them all and with ALL the right boxes checked off! Too bad they didnt make a light weight version, maybe getting it under 4,000 lb.? Reminds me of the UTG (uncle Tony garage)race this weekend where he holeshotted a F100 w/ 700hp 429 and him in a 318 powered 4 door mopar (with a little Nitrous).
WELL… the chub from this episodes Torino Porn went away with the $&@! in a coffee can sound effect. Awesome!! SO GLAD YOU ARE BACK!! OH HOW I HAVE MISSED THESE C&Z’s!!
Neither does the 429SCJ. Those 4.30s hurt it, along with a 300 pound, 11 cubic inch penalty. Auto vs. 4-speed makes driver skill important. SCJ still out mph'ed the GTX and other than the terrible wheelspin third race, beat it in ET, too. But the two are so close it's a toss up with like-to-like conditions.
These are pretty nice ETs for what are, I assume, basically stock engines. Nice vehicles - both of them. The 3.23 gears in the GTX really hurts acceleration.
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Too much silliness
AGHHH…MY NAMES JOHN WAGNER. I LIKE SERIOUS VIDEOS ONLY. IF THEY ARENT SERIOUS, I GET UPSET. SILLINESS IS THE WORK OF THE DEVIL. IN MY DAY, WE DIDNT ALLOW SILLINESS, NOT TO MENTION GAS WAS ONLY 35 CENTS PER GALLON. DID I FORGET TO MENTION HOW MUCH I HATE ELECTRIC VEHICLES FOR NO GOOD REASON? THEY’RE TOO SILLY. I NEED TO CHANGE MY DIAPER, AND THAT ISNT SILLY, ITS A SERIOUS PROBLEM.
@@CarsAndZebras You need to grow up.
@@CarsAndZebras I see your videos are still off the chain hilarious!!! Have you heard of the 428CJ?...That engine was guaranteed to give wood... because it had a "wooden" cam... because when you revved it up it went :
"wooden wooden".... 😂😂😂😂
More repulsive than silly, I just turn off the volume or skip to the race.
@@CarsAndZebras keep the humor bruh. Most of us like it. The rest can kiss our ass.
The GTX put up a hell of a fight with 3.23 gears Great Race !
I thought the 4.30 gears in the Ford would have been the difference, that GTX was very strong and consistent even with the 3.23 axle.
Well with this particular ford driver it was a lose , lose ! Good match up!
I would have dropped the torino rear air pressure down to , say 18lbs.With the ford driver not knowing how to handle that top loader a c-6 could of been a huge lift !
@@karma4553 Can you drive it any better than him?
Ford lovers are always cry bb ,s. 😂
I had a 68 GTX back in the day. No PS, PB or A/C. Just a ton of torque. Great memories of the four barrel opening, the smell of raw gas dumping into that big motor, and being brutally shoved back in my bucket seat. What a ride.
What the hell kind of crazy stuff are you watching to get the hysterical content anyway? Lmfao!!! You're one beautiful sick and funny individual!!! Btw, I love it!!!
The Ford is amazing. Love it. I owned a 1969 GTX, auto, ps, pb and air conditioning. Bought it from the original owner in 1971. Looked just like the RR in this race. Great Race. Good to see you. Thanks
Great video I'm a chevy guy but I've always had a soft spot for a GTX and that SUPER COBRA JET IS REALLY SUPER SWEET both running 13s awesome. Thanks for the video.👊
Lol, you made me a subscriber. Your videos are very entertaining...and yes on the silly side but it's your channel, do what you want. Making people smile is a good thing especially with all the troubles in the world. Those who don't like your style can watch other car channels.
The Torino Cobra had a quite a Top End Charge, thanks to those big Super Cobra Jet Heads and Solid Lifter Cam. The 70 Torino Cobra is my favorite Ford from back in the day, ain't nothing like a Super Cobra Jet backed up by a Top Loader and 4.30,s. Motor Trend liked it also, was there Muscle Car of the year for 1970.
That’s true!
Nope, it was those 4:30.1 gears. If the GTX had 3:91.1 gears, it would vaporize the 429 Cobra Jet.
@@ricktaylor3748 Yeah, whatever you say. If the Torino Cobra even had 3.91,s it'll still be faster than the Mopar, because Super Cobra Jet !!!
@@ricktaylor3748 Nope. This same Torino raced a 440(390hp) Cuda with 4.10 gears and 4speed shown here on C&Z and the Torino won both races so I wouldn't say that low gears would have this GTX 'vaporize' the Torino. Automatic trans is a huge advantage in stock tire racing.
That's also my favorite ford. But I'll take the mopar anyday. I'm a 70 gtx lover.
Great video. Awesome cars. Guess I'm a boomer. I hate EVs too. 😂
Zebra back in form!
You have one of the BEST auto shows on the web, love it.
Thanks!
Thank you for the great video and entertainment!
Love your great humor!!
Glad to see you back with Oscar-winning commode commentary!
Good to see ya back buddy 🦓 happy to see your funky sense of humor is still here too lol! Great race between two automotive giants, I've always been a pro Mopar kinda guy, but I also respect Ford and love Torino's and this one sure hauled some ass too! Great race and great cars brotha! 😎👍
This is definitely the "dude" edition!!
@CudaRebelsCarsandDiecast Hi my friend😉 Fantastic stock drag race, isn't it? The third round was a GTX power! I know you call it "Gee Tee Exterminator". But I would say rather "Gee Tyrannosaurus reX"😎
@@plymouthdie-castreplicas I totally agree brotha! I always enjoy C&Z drag races, and I love the way you worded it! "Gee T-ReX" sounds perfect, in fact I'm gonna write that one down lol! 😁👍
Good day C & Z,
About time the best of 3 & your humor came back it has been missing for so so long.
Extremely suprised by the times of the GTX more so with the 3,23:1 arse end ratio.
Hope you are well coming into your summer absolutely gorgeous day here in Melbourne, Australia.
Cheers
Louis Kats your number 1 Fan in Australia. ☺👍
Thanks as usual for watching!
@@CarsAndZebras 👍👍👍
Somewhat demented video but with a respectable techno-dive into the strange, colorful world that was 1970s Ford Muscle.
Two big ones battling it out - great driving by both. Interesting to play the pre-race game with engine stats, weight, and rear gearing. Several laugh out loud moments - thank you as always! ~ Chuck
Thanks for watching!
@@CarsAndZebras the big muscle also the 1971 mustang besides this car and also early brochure boss 429 engine available but change later on only mustang for 1970 and 1971 boss 302 boss 429 boss 351 but change
How can you say both great drivers. That clown operating the torino standing on the gas , going nowhere in race 2 an 3 . He made a joke of himself !Nothing great about him ! You obviously haven't a clue !
Dumbo
I had that same 429 in a 71 galaxy and the C-6 tranny. Had a couple Rat motors edge me but that was about it ! The REAL sleeper !
Imagine if the GTX had 3.91's
Imagine the torino having that 3/10 weight advantage? 😂
Imagine if that Torino driver knew how to drive that car.but I get it why tear it up.i would have .
Driving a clutch car at the strip takes talent and practice. You already have enough to think about without controlling your rpm and your clutch pedal. And with those wimpy tires that torino could burn them through the 1/4. Notice the dodges consistency? Thats why most people prefer an Automatic in drag racing. But if the ford guy worked on his suspension, trim that 300 pounds off the car,going around the road chickens would be no problem 😊.
And here comes the excuses...lol
Agreed. I bought the identical car in 1988, 84k, 3.23 open rear, clacking lifter, 14.15 @ 99 mph. I was in shock!
The weight of the Torino was suprising, didn't realize they were that heavy. Silliness aside, I still thoroughly enjoy your videos and yes I'm subscribed.
Awesome video, eleven and a half minutes of a good time on the track. Both cars were nice, but that GTX is one of my favorites. Thanks for another great video Cars and Zebras.
Thanks for watching!
Glad to see a new vid. Always Here for the low brow humor and info ...stay for the races . Now that spring is threatening to stick around , I can look forward to more vids more often.
Great stuff as always.
Would love to see a 66 or 67 Mercury Cyclone GT sometimes ..
When I was a kid, one of my neighbours had a '70 Mercury Cyclone and another had a '68 AMX. Both cool, but I like both this Torino and the GTX more.
A buddy of mine had a '69 GTX with dual quads on a cross-ram intake and dual point distributor. Couldn't tune it for peak HP because the rockers weren't adjustable and he couldn't afford to buy adjustable push rods or a variety of different length ones to set valve lash. He wound up selling it. JMO.
Car Seat? Family of 5 children, one on the package tray, Two across the rear hump with support, and two on the rear seat!
NASA was everything and child safety was unheard of! Those were awesome times and I love my youth! What the "F" happened to the USA!
My dad has a 1973 grain Torino fast back with a 1971 351 Cleveland
This is hilarious. Right now, as I watch this video I just sold my 68 Charger and I have my 70 GS 455 for sale. My Charger was only a 383/4bbl but my GS is the same Diplomat Blue. Great to see a new video, I miss having a new one every week. I know it must be a lot of work but they are still some of the best videos on RUclips!!!
Let's go Super Cobra Jet !!! My favorite combo, Drag Pack, SCJ, Top Loader, and 4.30,s It's just missing the Calypso Coral color tho.
Yes Calypso Coral was the color for those cars.
What you described I have. Balanced & blueprinted and running a little over 500 hp.
It’s in a museum in Georgia. Unscathed with 21,000 original miles.
It originally was calypso coral. It was painted non factory candy apple red in the mid 70’s
Awesome , Thanks C&Z 😊
Your my new favorite Tuber!!! Awesome video
Thank you for making such great Muscle Car videos - really appreciate your ability to combine the video, statistics on the cars & your sense of humor - I’m always laughing like a Hyena at those one-liners - thanks again!!
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This was one of his best!!
GREAT MATCH UP
BOTH CARS ARE TOP CONTENDERS ... THE
TORINO DRAG PACK SUPRISED ME. I KNOW THAT MOPAR HAS A CAST
CRANK ..TOO BAD THE TORINO DIDN'T HAVE THE
HIDEAWAY HEADLIGHTS
THEY REALLY LOOKED GREAT ... THANKS FOR ANOTHER GREAT MATCH UP AND GREAT VIDEO WITH
ALL THE FUN FACTS ...
YOUR FORMAT IS PERFECT
DON'T TRY TO IMPROVE IT
.... IT'S PERFECT THE WAY IT IS !!!!
Cast cranks came in later 440 engines- after '72. They were common in New Yorkers, other C bodies. This GTX 440 (if original) was forged. Even if the 440 was non-original, the mechanic/owner would select a forged equipped replacement.
@@dodgecharger4404 SOUNDS REASONABLE THAT IF THE OWNER WOULD SPEND A SMALL FORTUNE ON A CAR ....
A FORGED CRANK WOULD BE NECESSARY .....
THE 440 SIX PACK WAS A FORMIDABLE ENGINE
I HAVE SEEN 340 DUSTER BEAT AND SHAME A
ZL1 CAMARO .... THINK I WOULD RATHER HAVE THE 440 RATHER THAN THE HEMI SIMPLY DUE TO
PRICE .....
@@jimmeyer7632 Most 440s ddint rpm enough to need a steel crank
Those crappy heads may have helped it with driveable torque but not much upstairs. The SCJ on the other hand sucked on the st or strip without real deep gears
Xlnt comedy and cars all in the same video!! 🤠
YAY! Classic Cars and Zebras with the much loved low-brow humor! Welcome Back, we missed you!
Nice to watch these videos again I miss them .
The Torino had some making a sandwich on the tree issues !!
Damn that Mopar was consistent!
CZ - glad to see you back in top narration form!
Excellent!!! More, more, more!!😎
you really ...... unloaded...... the humor on this one.... great stuff and I am subscribed.
🍆 💦
@@CarsAndZebras We should rename you Dr Demento!
The clip with Leno was straight up funny as hell .
Cant believe dudes get on here to tell you humor is immmature! Like they are frigging Mr Hand preaching to Spicoli!
Awesome video, what a race, love my MOPARS but I thought nah... that Ford was wicked. Keep up the great work and toilet humour.
Had a 69 Road Runner. Never had a problem with Fords.
Love that GTX Mopar 😊
trap speed, trap speed, trap speed
Welcome back, C&Z! Awesome race...but why would anyone order a GTX with 3.23 gears?? Plymouth still pulled out the victory, but I like the looks of the Torino way better. Thanks for posting! 👍😎
THey didnt need a low gear they made so much low-midrange tq it stayed in its powerband longer and could still cruise the fwy .
The fords engine with the almost too big heads and solid lift cam needs deep gears or they feel like a pooch. Know that one well
thanks brother finally another video, hope you're doing good!
I ate a couple of those with my 1970 Challenger R/T 440+6 Pak. No problemo!
So glad to see you back Mr CZ
I can't wait to watch a new stock drag race. Absolutely funny and stunning video Mr. Cars And Zebras!👍👍👍 I enjoyed it.
Great video! Looking forward to more!
Thanks for showing the burnout area before each race too, awesome!!
I like Mopar but that Torino is badass they ran another race that Torino probably would have taken it
I like Ford... But I guessed the Mopar to be the winner so no matter what happened, I'd be satisfied. That being say... The RB 440 is the sexiest vintage pushrod motor ever produced
Nothing coole thanr than Big Block mopar.
Along with the 340, a little beast
@@bluesky-ud9wg yes the LA block looks cool too... But the pre 1960 trim Ford FE is nicer still
@@michaelharrisson1683 The best "older" Ford engine is the 427 Period. The SOHC couldn't be called a production engine so I left that out but yes that is an incredible engine
@@bluesky-ud9wg I'm not talking about the best. And no it's not the 427... The 427 is just the most powerful... The best is is the small block 260, 289, 302.
This is quite possibly your finest work.
Love the longer format!
It only takes about 2 hrs to change those 3:23 gears in that 8 3/4 in. GTX rear end. I went to the junkyard and got a 3:73 off a van pretty cheap. For such a small investment in time and money, it sure makes a big difference in takeoff. 😉👍
Those CJ's sound so good that the Incredible Bulk cowers in humility!
😂😂😂😂
My buddy ordered this Torino new in late 69 for street racing in Philadelphia. It was originally orange and has no power steering or power brakes which were added. It slso was not a ram air version new. No console either. All to save weight. He granaded the SCJ in the early 70’s and the motor was rebuilt by Al Jonic. Yes that Al Jonic. He also had it painted the candy apple red in the mid 70’s. Dick cash owns it now and races it , and here it is
That’s Torino seemed like it was a handle to launch
In stock form the GTX was rated fairly @375 horse power, but this Torino had a lot of exotic parts and was underrated @ 375 horse power. How is your SS 396????
With a new owner. Finished the resto to Pure Stock standard and got a big offer, probably more than what it was worth. Had to let it go
@@CarsAndZebras Good for you!
@@CarsAndZebras So whats next?
Hell yeah, welcome back nostalgia is where it’s at👍
Hey, quit disparaging uscolder guys…Clint had a Gran Torino and he is badass, no diapers for him! Lol
Oops “us older guys”… but still no diaper needed….yet
Holy Carp Batman! A Great video. Talk about a nail-biter! Daayum! I`m Mopar until death, but I was sooo bummed for the Torino in that last race. Mulligan?!? Talk about close racing. Great cars great racing. I do question the odd number of races that are so common. Odd numbered races just don`t work fairly. For a huge example of a fair number to judge something. How about a court room? Think about it. An odd number of jurors simply would not work. The same with car racing. Thank You. (Have you noticed, that over the years, I have calmed down soo much? Well, except for tears of Joy!)
O.M.G. YOU are one funny S.O.B.!!
I'm a little shocked the Ford didn't do any better than it did. As a mopar fan I'm glad to see it didn't lol. Great video!
C n Z !! True to FORM!! Loved every second!!
Dammit.. GTX got him out of the hole.. Thank you CZ!! I'M subscribed!! Lol
Great race as usual! Love that GTX, but that Cobra is so cool, too.
I like big fords and I can not lie GtXs are nice and fly muscle cars I can't decide when cnz starts the spin I click on in and get live ... Welcome back cnz now that grabber blue Mercury cyclone spoiler in the background of the cobra what about fine fendered bbmc (big beautiful Muscle car) will you be featuring the merc soon ?
I do have footage of it, but not great. Guy was having shifter issues, but it’s one quick car. Might get more footage of it later this year. I want to feature it, but when it’s fine-tuned
It runs in the FAST series, so not Pure Stock/Factory Stock.
I hope so it's a beauty and one alot of folks may not know about. Those 429 cobra motors were made in Lima ohio buckeye power for wolverine sheet metal a little college football humor there
Amazing to see these cars in showroom condition running all out.
Sure is. Yet so many are convinced if they drive a restored car somehow it will get ruined! Meantime these guys are having fun.
These videos are awesome!
Compared to the 429 CJ, the Super Cobra Jet engine featured four-bolt mains, a precision-balanced forged crankshaft, forged-aluminum pistons that raised the compression ratio to 11.3:1, a high-lift solid-lifter camshaft, heavy-duty connecting rods secured with "football" bolts, unique harmonic balancer and flywheel, high-volume oil pump, unique cylinder heads, high-rise intake manifold, and 780-cfm Holley four-barrel carburetor. Motor Trend and other magazines testing this car in the 1/4 mile, turning 13.3 @ 109 mph. Amide reports of making 375 hp, the factory 1970 SCJ actually made 425 hp and 450 lbft.
Breaking 100mph in the 1/4 even in the 80s was said to be a decent st car
109 in 1970 wow. I was 2 yrs old then
Fast st car no matter the brand...sure pulled good up top once the heads started working.
Does anyone know what music video/band that was with the streaker running down the hallway that was used in the Cobra Snake skit?
Pixies - Where Is My Mind
@@CarsAndZebras Yes! Thank you Sir!
@@CarsAndZebras Listening to this right now. twenty years just fell off. I haven't heard this in so long. A different time. Thanks for replying! I just subscribed two days ago, looking forward to your next one
Recorded in 1988. I knew I remembered this. Something buried deep. I was a whopping seven years old. But i remembered. Thanks again
IN 69, THE ROADRUNNER WAS MOTOR TREND’S CAR OF THE YEAR , MUCH RESPECT TO FORD WITH THE BOSS IN 1970 , CHEVY HAD THE LS-6 , BUT THE PLYMOUTH CUDA AND DODGE CHALLENGER SMOKED IT WITH A FASTER QUARTER MILE TIME !!!!!
13.1 and 13.3 106-108 for the ls6 which mopars are you referring to?
@@gordocarbo I WOULD BE REFERRING TO THE QUARTER MILE TESTS OF ROAD & TRACK OR MOTOR TREND TESTING !! 13.5 SEC. 70 HEMI CUDA , 70 LS - 6 CHEVELLE 13.8 SEC. HEAVIER CAR !!!
Now that's what a race would look like back in the day. As always the owners are as awesome as the cars.
Two iconic cars. If offered either one, I'd have to take the Torino just for the four speed but nothing lacking on the torqueflite.
Same..love the GTX but a sucker for deep gears 4 speeds and solid lifter engines every time! Never gets old
Too funny...as always !
Pretty consistent times for a 4-speed. 13.78, 13.74 and 13.75.
GTX was automatic and sure did have consistent times. Torino with the 4 speed not so much.
Takes a mopar to.....
You all know the rest by now.
Get laid?🤔
Myself had a 70 thunderbird with the 429 thunderjet motor. A living room on wheels
Heading to a concert in Detroit the I-75 overpass that goes uphill towards Detroit
I hit well over 130mph and the car started shaking so I let off. She still had more.
That being said doing a burn out broke the frame in 1/2.
That was her demise. I would have loved to have that motor in a Fairlane or stang.
great content
this is a fair race ! both use BF-Goodrich Radials !!
Good stuff!
Love that Torino
That Cobra is brutal!!!
Those Fords seem way under carbureted. 600cfm for a 429 cubic inch engine? Even the 780 in the super cobra jet seems a little underwhelming.
Not with the stock heads and cam. It’s plenty of carb.
@@danmyers9372 True! This was the same engine that powered the 1970 T-Bird.
Pack it up Ford boy's 😅
Well the quickest (and best looking) car lost because the GTX had a more experienced driver. That Torino was the best looking one of them all and with ALL the right boxes checked off! Too bad they didnt make a light weight version, maybe getting it under 4,000 lb.?
Reminds me of the UTG (uncle Tony garage)race this weekend where he holeshotted a F100 w/ 700hp 429 and him in a 318 powered 4 door mopar (with a little Nitrous).
Getting it out of the hole without spinning was the problem.
That 429SCJ was mad underrated. There's a dyno video on here of an original, unopened one that thumped out 484 hp with headers ( 18k miles )
Missed you
Beautiful cars.
WELL… the chub from this episodes Torino Porn went away with the $&@! in a coffee can sound effect. Awesome!! SO GLAD YOU ARE BACK!! OH HOW I HAVE MISSED THESE C&Z’s!!
Where U been?
SCJ should've smoked Hemi-less GTX...Hilarious video !!!
Just think if that GTX had 3:91 or 4:10 gears
Those 440 Mopar motors have so much low end grunt that they don't seem to need the low gears.
Neither does the 429SCJ. Those 4.30s hurt it, along with a 300 pound, 11 cubic inch penalty. Auto vs. 4-speed makes driver skill important. SCJ still out mph'ed the GTX and other than the terrible wheelspin third race, beat it in ET, too. But the two are so close it's a toss up with like-to-like conditions.
Yup, the automatic put the GTX in the win column.
@@dougchildress4031 good points
The 429 isn't the best engine for drag racing, the stroke is simply too short.
The Torino had good trap speeds. Put 4.10's in that GTX and say goodnight. That car ran hard !!
Don't forget the engine oil cooler with the drag pack!!
These are pretty nice ETs for what are, I assume, basically stock engines. Nice vehicles - both of them. The 3.23 gears in the GTX really hurts acceleration.
MOPAR OR NO CAR...Fords could NEVER keep up! I always preferred the 360, 383 & 440s ✌💖☮