Go with a deeper sound than Tabs and get Khrome Werks War Hammers 4.5 without baffles or put in the performance louvered baffles which help with lower end torque and slight decrease in exhaust level. Don't forget the mid-pipe cat delete. KW has a couple different baffles to go with to include reducers-no baffle. Khrome Werks and Tab Perf are both from the Lincoln Ne area.
“Teated” Probably wanted to type “Tested”. This is crazy because I just came back from a 200 mile ride with my BMW K1600B in Pennsylvania and on my way home , I stopped at an Indian dealership and sat on and was looking hard at a 2023 Challenger darkhorse matte black. Absolutely beautiful, so I was thinking of trading in my bmw, but now…… NOT so sure.
Other than the style or if you bought something brand new, I could not envision why you would buy a Challenger? That K1600B is a tour-de-force and objectively, your BMW, is a superior bike, IMHO, to the Indian. Anyway, to each his own and good luck with whichever way you go!
Sorry to hear of your issues. I have a 22 Pursuit... Been to several rallies over 1,000 miles from where I live and ride it almost like a daily rider with no issues (including never having my battery die) on my bike at over 20,000 miles. I agree with some of the other comments that you may have been one of the unlucky handful that got a lemon bike. I like your content on past couple of vids on your Challenger and just subscribed to your channel.
I remember all the problems with your S1000. You got lucky they worked it all out. I’d sell/trade this one. She is a beauty though. I’ve always kept my 2000 Magna as a backup for the same reason. Simple and reliable for when the others are in the shop.
I have a 22 and getting ready to change out the battery. It couldn't sit more that a few weeks without running the battery down. Now its down to a few days. My theory is that the multiple computers are power hungry. I am not sure the computer is not active sitting connected to the wifi. I love the bike. I will keep feeding it batteries every few years. Not a problem. I recommend the TAB crossover. I use OE mufflers with the TAB and they sound fantastic.
I love this bike. Glad to hear Polaris took care of you. I had a horrible experience with a new 2018 Polaris Ranger, the machine came from the factory with issues that Polaris originally tried to blame on me. Polaris finally warrantied it, and i sold it as soon as i got it back. Bought a Can Am and have had zero issues and zero regrets. I would buy this bike in 2024 if my initial interactions had went different. Instead ill stick with HD and purchase a Road Glide.
You got a Gremlin Bike. These Bikes aren't that Bad. I have a 2022 with 25k on it. I had a Wire Harness issue at the beginning, but once it got replaced been good since. I Run nothing but 89 Fuel. Had a few limp Mode moments. Shut the Bike off and Turned it back on and kept Riding. Like I said I think you got a Gremlin Bike. Looking to get a Pursuit. Get Reinhart Exhaust. Not too loud but loud enough. Good luck
I have a 2020 base challenger with 30K on it. Still have the same battery. I do put it on an AGM battery charger when I let it sit for a couple of days. I wonder if they let the battery run down when they were working on it. So far, I have not had any problems with mine. Good luck with it.
When it works! As I watch your presentation and your magnificent job of containing your frustration I'm picking up what you are, and are not putting down. You want to luv and enjoy your new Indian; your new ride but can't because of these glitches. Indian set expectations, you bought into what they were selling, and now Indian was not able to fulfill those expectations. I feel your pain.
The heater in the O2 sensors warms up the sensor so the bike runs cleaner faster. As in low pollution. When you start the bike cold it runs on a cold start fuel map until the O2 sensors warm up enough to monitor the amount of oxygen in the exhaust. It sounds like your wiring harness had a short and that was causing fault codes. But if these codes come back you have a faulty ECU. It sounds like you have a bad battery also. You should be able to leave the bike sit for a couple of weeks before the battery dies. Go after them for a new battery….. ps Don’t leave the key on and flip through the menus as everything is powered up and you’re killing the battery very quickly. If your listing to the radio while in the garage and the bike not running make sure your in accessory mode just like your car. My son’s Victory cross country with 110,000km and no electrical issues. My Victory Vision 62,000 km and no issues.
i have a 2022 super cheif limted my factory battery died 6 months into owner ship, my fuel pump died a few months later and i got a flat and they have oem only inner tubes on spoked wheels other than that i now have 4,000 miles and its great.
Teated = Tested There is a specific procedure or process to test the canbus system on Indian's if they replaced the harness, they found an issue in the wire harness itself, and they don't repair wires...
Battery stays for long time without connecting, i have 2021 Challenger i dont ride for couple of weeks and it starts normally, i guess it due to parking for long time to change the harness.
My Harley's amd triumphs came with factory charger leads. The battery could of went bad from sitting while the bike was down? It should have a warranty if its under a year old
2022 Base model 0 problems to date Keep the Fob away from bike . Let computer load and hit OK on screen before starting . Never start and jump on it and twist let bike warm up to a minimum 170 - 175 Temp . This is essential to proper starting and riding procedure .
You bike is running rich, your air sensors are clogged up need to be replaced or cleaned. Need to find out if something is shorting out like a speed sensor. Or like you definetly have a problem with carbon emissions stemming from bad carburetor settings. And if the rings need changing. Well that would be your cause. Did your bike smoke when starting?
Not on an Indian, but I have an 06 Polaris Sportsman ATV that kills batteries if I don't plug it in. Not sure how much tech they share between their ATVs and the Indian line (both owned by Polaris), but I know the ATVs have stator issues. I burned up an electronic control module on my Sportsman just by running the battery low
Ive had a few of these and I would say do not keep the key on the bike, and since there are a lot of electronics if the bike isn’t ridden within two to three days keep it on the tender. Keeping the key on the bike will absolutely kill the battery on both the bike and the key. As far as exhaust… ruclips.net/video/esNbaGZTMjw/видео.htmlsi=X92Dz-eA5Bo2YIqd
Motorcycle batteries are notorious for dying early If you don’t keep a trickle charge on them when you’re not riding the bike. I can’t tell you why, but that’s just been my experience with them over the years.
Dude you have been put through hell!!! I believe most issues are “ground related “ in All machines and can be remedied by adding grounds and disassembling factory grounds removing paint scuffing bright metal surfaces Not touching surfaces with bare hands and reinstalling. Easier to add a ground then find an insufficient ground . To find parasitic voltage loss pull fuses while it’s “off” you should find the current draw. FYI Polaris has many wiring harness issues for Years on the off road line up .Sorry brother for your pain and suffering and lack of confidence. Please keep us updated.
My BMW K1600B also has that port. I have never used it. My bike has sat for 3 weeks and cranks right up. I am an electrical engineering technician and no way a bike battery should die in two days. No way. Your ignition runs on AC, not DC. The alternator charges the battery but also fires the plugs via the coils. Sounds like your alternator is not charging the battery. Since all your instruments run off DC like the Oxygen sensor, it makes sense the battery is not being charged.
IT'S A BAD ENGINE CONTROLLER!! POLARIS VICTORY CROSS COUNTRY HAD SIMILIAR ISSUES,MULTIPLE TIMES IN SHOP,FINALLY TOLD THEM TO PUT A NEW ECU IN THE BIKE. PROBLEM SOLVED
@@chiefjoseph8154 Back in the spring my son purchased a brand new 2023 Indian Scout Bobber. So we are now an Indian family! Good Luck with your Chieftain.
Lol once a battery goes dead once, n u charge it, it basically isn’t a battery anymore will continue to go dead prematurely. My guess is that month that it took for them to repair it, the battery died somehow, it’s a shop so they would make that bike jump if it have to. But giving it back to you the battery was just charged under a short period of time and has died completely. You will constantly get the same weak amps in about a week timing, unless you claim warranty for that battery from them or man-up and buy a new battery.
What exhaust should I pick up for this thing?
Tab performance Zombie 4.5"
Go with a deeper sound than Tabs and get Khrome Werks War Hammers 4.5 without baffles or put in the performance louvered baffles which help with lower end torque and slight decrease in exhaust level. Don't forget the mid-pipe cat delete. KW has a couple different baffles to go with to include reducers-no baffle. Khrome Werks and Tab Perf are both from the Lincoln Ne area.
“Teated” Probably wanted to type “Tested”. This is crazy because I just came back from a 200 mile ride with my BMW K1600B in Pennsylvania and on my way home , I stopped at an Indian dealership and sat on and was looking hard at a 2023 Challenger darkhorse matte black. Absolutely beautiful, so I was thinking of trading in my bmw, but now…… NOT so sure.
Other than the style or if you bought something brand new, I could not envision why you would buy a Challenger? That K1600B is a tour-de-force and objectively, your BMW, is a superior bike, IMHO, to the Indian. Anyway, to each his own and good luck with whichever way you go!
Sorry to hear of your issues. I have a 22 Pursuit... Been to several rallies over 1,000 miles from where I live and ride it almost like a daily rider with no issues (including never having my battery die) on my bike at over 20,000 miles. I agree with some of the other comments that you may have been one of the unlucky handful that got a lemon bike. I like your content on past couple of vids on your Challenger and just subscribed to your channel.
I remember all the problems with your S1000. You got lucky they worked it all out. I’d sell/trade this one. She is a beauty though.
I’ve always kept my 2000 Magna as a backup for the same reason. Simple and reliable for when the others are in the shop.
I have a 22 and getting ready to change out the battery. It couldn't sit more that a few weeks without running the battery down. Now its down to a few days. My theory is that the multiple computers are power hungry. I am not sure the computer is not active sitting connected to the wifi. I love the bike. I will keep feeding it batteries every few years. Not a problem. I recommend the TAB crossover. I use OE mufflers with the TAB and they sound fantastic.
I love this bike. Glad to hear Polaris took care of you. I had a horrible experience with a new 2018 Polaris Ranger, the machine came from the factory with issues that Polaris originally tried to blame on me. Polaris finally warrantied it, and i sold it as soon as i got it back. Bought a Can Am and have had zero issues and zero regrets. I would buy this bike in 2024 if my initial interactions had went different. Instead ill stick with HD and purchase a Road Glide.
I believe that the manual says not to store the key on the bike because its always "searching" and to keep it on a charger is preferred
100% do not keep the key on the bike will drain the key and the bike
You got a Gremlin Bike. These Bikes aren't that Bad. I have a 2022 with 25k on it. I had a Wire Harness issue at the beginning, but once it got replaced been good since. I Run nothing but 89 Fuel. Had a few limp Mode moments. Shut the Bike off and Turned it back on and kept Riding. Like I said I think you got a Gremlin Bike. Looking to get a Pursuit. Get Reinhart Exhaust. Not too loud but loud enough. Good luck
I have a 2020 base challenger with 30K on it. Still have the same battery. I do put it on an AGM battery charger when I let it sit for a couple of days. I wonder if they let the battery run down when they were working on it. So far, I have not had any problems with mine. Good luck with it.
When it works! As I watch your presentation and your magnificent job of containing your frustration I'm picking up what you are, and are not putting down. You want to luv and enjoy your new Indian; your new ride but can't because of these glitches. Indian set expectations, you bought into what they were selling, and now Indian was not able to fulfill those expectations. I feel your pain.
Hey Seth 👋 long time no see. I think you just got a lemon honestly cuz I've never known an Indian that required that type of maintenance
Bassani!!! I went with the 2-1 but the 2-2 true duals sounds bad ass
Like a low rider…
The heater in the O2 sensors warms up the sensor so the bike runs cleaner faster. As in low pollution. When you start the bike cold it runs on a cold start fuel map until the O2 sensors warm up enough to monitor the amount of oxygen in the exhaust.
It sounds like your wiring harness had a short and that was causing fault codes. But if these codes come back you have a faulty ECU.
It sounds like you have a bad battery also. You should be able to leave the bike sit for a couple of weeks before the battery dies.
Go after them for a new battery…..
ps
Don’t leave the key on and flip through the menus as everything is powered up and you’re killing the battery very quickly.
If your listing to the radio while in the garage and the bike not running make sure your in accessory mode just like your car.
My son’s Victory cross country with 110,000km and no electrical issues. My Victory Vision 62,000 km and no issues.
2021 chieftainDH and i religiously throw it on the trickle everytime so i have no idea if its an issue or not. And no electrical issues at all
i have a 2022 super cheif limted my factory battery died 6 months into owner ship, my fuel pump died a few months later and i got a flat and they have oem only inner tubes on spoked wheels other than that i now have 4,000 miles and its great.
Teated = Tested
There is a specific procedure or process to test the canbus system on Indian's if they replaced the harness, they found an issue in the wire harness itself, and they don't repair wires...
Battery stays for long time without connecting, i have 2021 Challenger i dont ride for couple of weeks and it starts normally, i guess it due to parking for long time to change the harness.
My Harley's amd triumphs came with factory charger leads. The battery could of went bad from sitting while the bike was down? It should have a warranty if its under a year old
2022 Base model 0 problems to date
Keep the Fob away from bike . Let computer load and hit OK on screen before starting . Never start and jump on it and twist let bike warm up to a minimum 170 - 175 Temp . This is essential to proper starting and riding procedure .
Imagine the repair cost without the warranty 😮
New video going live in the morning. This thing is a piece.
You bike is running rich, your air sensors are clogged up need to be replaced or cleaned. Need to find out if something is shorting out like a speed sensor. Or like you definetly have a problem with carbon emissions stemming from bad carburetor settings. And if the rings need changing. Well that would be your cause. Did your bike smoke when starting?
Not on an Indian, but I have an 06 Polaris Sportsman ATV that kills batteries if I don't plug it in. Not sure how much tech they share between their ATVs and the Indian line (both owned by Polaris), but I know the ATVs have stator issues. I burned up an electronic control module on my Sportsman just by running the battery low
Ive had a few of these and I would say do not keep the key on the bike, and since there are a lot of electronics if the bike isn’t ridden within two to three days keep it on the tender. Keeping the key on the bike will absolutely kill the battery on both the bike and the key. As far as exhaust…
ruclips.net/video/esNbaGZTMjw/видео.htmlsi=X92Dz-eA5Bo2YIqd
Motorcycle batteries are notorious for dying early If you don’t keep a trickle charge on them when you’re not riding the bike. I can’t tell you why, but that’s just been my experience with them over the years.
Dude you have been put through hell!!! I believe most issues are “ground related “ in All machines and can be remedied by adding grounds and disassembling factory grounds removing paint scuffing bright metal surfaces Not touching surfaces with bare hands and reinstalling. Easier to add a ground then find an insufficient ground . To find parasitic voltage loss pull fuses while it’s “off” you should find the current draw. FYI Polaris has many wiring harness issues for Years on the off road line up .Sorry brother for your pain and suffering and lack of confidence. Please keep us updated.
My BMW K1600B also has that port. I have never used it. My bike has sat for 3 weeks and cranks right up. I am an electrical engineering technician and no way a bike battery should die in two days. No way. Your ignition runs on AC, not DC. The alternator charges the battery but also fires the plugs via the coils. Sounds like your alternator is not charging the battery. Since all your instruments run off DC like the Oxygen sensor, it makes sense the battery is not being charged.
Jeckel and Hyde's, may put more stain on the battery though.
IT'S A BAD ENGINE CONTROLLER!! POLARIS VICTORY CROSS COUNTRY HAD SIMILIAR ISSUES,MULTIPLE TIMES IN SHOP,FINALLY TOLD THEM TO PUT A NEW ECU IN THE BIKE. PROBLEM SOLVED
Traded mine after 11,000 miles. To many issues.
Yikes! Given your handle that was probably not easy to give up on Indian!
@@nelsonphilip4520 I did a lateral trade to a Chieftain. Hopefully this one will be trouble free.
@@chiefjoseph8154 Back in the spring my son purchased a brand new 2023 Indian Scout Bobber. So we are now an Indian family! Good Luck with your Chieftain.
I know people with this bikes no way, jose is that particuoar bike, you or the dealer.
Sounds like your problems due to improper assembly and when they said teeted I think they meant tested ( typo)
Lol once a battery goes dead once, n u charge it, it basically isn’t a battery anymore will continue to go dead prematurely.
My guess is that month that it took for them to repair it, the battery died somehow, it’s a shop so they would make that bike jump if it have to. But giving it back to you the battery was just charged under a short period of time and has died completely. You will constantly get the same weak amps in about a week timing, unless you claim warranty for that battery from them or man-up and buy a new battery.
The battery has been a known problem … I have a 22 .. Indian doesn’t care
That is my guess anyway
A bunch of useless tech…..
Will not be buying one now .thanks for information
You really not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Are you ? Teated is tested misspelled smart guy. 🤔
Tell Indian, no exceptions, you want a new bike. It’s a lemon. 🍋
Get a lawyer if you have to.
Harley is the best
You jave ground problems.