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Death and the ending of consciousness 2 | J. Krishnamurti
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Death and the ending of consciousness 2
Extract from the fourteenth conversation with Allan W. Anderson in San Diego, 1974.
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After J Krishnamurti.....U people are doing his left over work.....Thank you so much Krishnamurti foundations for this.....I really Thank
“Immortality is not within the field of time; and time is thought”
The extent to which Allan comprehends this is impressive. I don't see that a lot in conversations with J. Krishnamurti. And he is helping me follow with his active listening.
What a beautiful loving being, trying to explain his tremendous ancient wisdom to a mere analytical, intellectual man pretending to understand....The words of Krishnamurti are like eternal, precious pearls.
Why ???
Your lauding of krishnamurti here should tell you that you have understood nothing of what he is saying. Notice that you praise Krishnamurti at the expense of the gentleman who is talking with him having a discussion interviewing him. You say he is pretending to understand Krishnamurti and yet you are doing the exact same thing but in a different way i.e. by acknowledging his greatness you pretend to understand or think you understand or convince yourself you understand what krishnamurti is saying here but the poor other fellow doesn't. Pfft. This is what happens when you put someone on a pedestal, at the same time you degrade another human being and put him into a lower level of some kind. You just praised Krishnamurti here so your ego could sound important, so your ego could sound spiritual and so making yourself out to be wise - wise enough to know that krishnamurti is to be praised and the other gentleman is not to be esteemed. You embarrassed yourself with your own comment here. Krishnamurti would not invite such a comment to himself. Let that sink in before you embarrass yourself with another mindless comment in which you think you're saying something good.
@@grosbeak6130 I have to ask, isn't your chastisement of someone that you don't know reflect the exact same process you accuse him of being trapped in?
@@tomcloud54 So true, I came here hungry for truth, and I am going away with less truth, either I didn't understand a thing, or they couldn't make me understand, for instance
"The beauty in things ... and not the object of beauty... is immortal. And mind can't grasp it because it is not in the field of consciousness."
Has left me badly confused, beauty results from an object, if there was no object there would be no beauty, so how can beauty be immortal, it can vanish with mortal object.
I could be mistaken, but I believe the fact that something was ever beautiful at all is what makes it immortal. Time doesn’t matter in that aspect.
Two men brought together for the love of truth. I'm happy to have felt this.🙏💜
Close your eyes and listen deeply to the enlightened one - please listen very deeply. It has changed everything for me. Gratitude 🙏🏼
Very enlightening conversation! The intelligence of J Krishnamurti always amazes me ❤🙏😊
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Absolutely enlightened being
Wowo so amazing knowledgeable and we are so proud to ha these kind of people still with us
God bless you
You are the real source of peace and love to all
Thank you
To touch the very root of terror!!! Let's apply it here and now. 👍🙏🥀
"Here Now" rather, than "Here AND Now". If we are to include the conjunction "And" in between we still are on "Time" realm, and time, like thought is movement, hence we are still on mind analysis, which is paralysis.
Blessings J. Krishnamurti
The choiceless awareness gives you the energy to go beyond....wow... so blessed to have stumbled upon this great being🙏🙏
According to JK, no analysis is complete. It follows from that, any continual analytical exercise is total paralysis - we do not get to the truth this way. There goes the scientific inquiry out of the window. Just watching the body language ( I am being analytical here, but I cannot help but to indulge) tells me how engaged both of these gentlemen in the subject of conversation. So, wonderful to see how attentive Andersen is to JK and how he invites JK to check on his understanding of what comes out of JK. Just to experience the animated JK and the enthusiasm and passion he shows when he speaks and the command of the language of expression is to me a real treat. Thank you for making this available to us.
All 18 dialogues recorded in San Diego California 1974.treasure worth preserving.
If there is such a thing as a prophet, K , certainly is. A man of truth.
Millennia of confusion and religious dogma thrown into the dumpster of history. Clear thought achieved with the reasoning power of an intelligent mind. Krishnamurti is right and beauty IS immortal.
We need more people to explain the simple truth of life to the deluded masses. But who will ever listen?
The open hearted will listen.
Love knows no death. Thanks for the way ll 🙏
Jiddu Krishnamurti was lightyears ahead of it’s time. Thank you for sharing
Priceless talks. Thanks for uploading this gem!
The joy in his eyes
This is amazing , J Krishnamurti transcended this realm.
Oh please !
I think he means that death is the destruction of the lower ego. That's why the vitality to which he refers. The mind trying to be eternal and the complete release from fear. He puts things together with his beautiful intelligence. "What is it that dies?" "Can the content of consciousness be emptied?" Means no attachment. "The emptying of that is the real death."
True teacher - who gave this timeless knowledge, with such pureness of heart and intent, to urge human awareness, to help grow world consciousness in the positive direction.
Blessed are those who viewed, tried and understood this Eternal Knowledge
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Been to heaven 3× & didnt want to leave unconditional love with no pain & my loved 1s but not my time. 💜🙏💜
Wow ! Seeing That Emptying Consciousness Content Is Death ! What a Revelation
Love this sir... Thank you for your knowledge and you a pure soul.
“consciousness ….that has created its own limitations comes to an end” love this 🙏🏼
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"The emptying of consciousness...means...the consciousness which has created its own limitation...by its content...comes to an end." 🤔
i think therefore i exist, when i don't think i don't exist.
"And I left my body like a dirty shirt to quench my soul at the source of the dawn" 🎵🎶🎶🎵
More like “i am” so let the circus cinema show of mind with “me” in the center of the universe begin.
I'm not afraid of death (aged78), I just don't want to be there when it happens.
Sincere daily meditation and you will know for yourself through personal experience. This dude is in the mental levels. We must rise above the mental levels to discover another conscientiousness. .
hes only being mental, for the purpose of communcation.
There is only mind either you put it here or in meditation you will see whatever you want to.
But you can do things only you are alive.
You can believe in any faith,religion,philosophy but when one died non of these works
Sir, thank you very much, from the bottom of my heart, your great enlightening teachings and guidance. I had learnt a lot from you. Is so wonderful, Sir 🙏
Krishnamurti never guides because the listener wants to sleep in the bogey and expects krishnamurti to drive the train of Truth for him. Krishnamurti is not a guru.
Thank you all for giving me the opportunity of listening to this conversation. My new outlook on death has changed my approach. Krishnamurti, what a blessing!
Who cares anymore
Brilliant thanks
He is talking about the willingness to venture consciously into the "Valley of the Shadow of Death". There must be the willingness to die, to give up whatever it is that keeps me tied to this ego. Willingness and "analysis" will never complete the journey... so thinking will never work... it must be some radical surrender that must take place. The surrender will happen if the intent is clear. It will happen of its own accord. You will have no control of it, yet your willingness is essential. Good luck.
No one can understand Krishnamurti.
We all love him because of his voice and sainthoodness.
He simply is like a qualified teacher who is incapable of expressing himself.
Thank you very much ❤️🙏
30:10 The beauty in things ... and not the object of beauty... is immortal. And mind can't grasp it because it is not in the field of consciousness.
THANKS
My Beloved Master 🙏🙏🙏❤
Very very profound discussion.. Thanks a lot for uploading this 🙏🙏🙏. Is there part 3?
This emptying of the consciousness is exactly what happens in the practice of Vipassana at the stage of dissolution
How beautiful 😊
K is using simple world and making sure leading to soothing step by step.
How enormous is this😍
"Therefore, family becomes danger."...!
Jesus said, this kind, too, if I remember it right, that family members are the worst enemies...!
Dying to everything simplifys life thank you enlightened one
Vitality of death ...
Total emptying of everything I acquired/ learned (phiysical, emotional, psychological, mental ... social...) is the real death freeing my self into the immense vitality
Birth begins with death
Life begins with death of the attachments
Free my will from the ego - selfishness....
Indeed A REVELATION on death
Fearfree.
Thank you. Blessed be.♡
Such passion, and beauty in this man.💖
Every relationship has to be naturally formed and the mind not be a part of it.
There no word to describe the state of Consciousness. 🌹🌹🌹
how about 3 words..."state of counsciousness"
What is prior to time and space, cannot be describe by it. In other words, what is prior to thought and words cannot be grasped by them.
Century ago same was thought of energy, gravity, heat & other concepts
most valuable insight and very eye opening
K is next level .......
Im really gratefull for this part 2 and part 3 will be greatly welcomed
There is no part 3, but you can watch the full video at ruclips.net/video/0D_1XdYRtI4/видео.html
@@KFoundation ok, thank you so much for this precious video
Thank you for uploading this great content, got really great insights from this! 🙏❤️
What a wonderful explanation where everything falls flat 👏
totally brilliant
Analysis and paralysis - I love that !!
Timelessss space in the here.. and now thanks 🙏
Whenever am Sad i come here to listen to both of them.
Beautiful video 🤩
27:13 putting idiotic flag 😂🤣☠️
The greatest of the rationalist's of the 21st century We love his views
Thanks for sharing very heart touch video
the terror of not being....and all the things we do to great and terrible ,horrible things to gain it...
Is there a part 3 ?
The way he raises the essential questions is so challenging. Thank you for posting his videos.
ruclips.net/p/PL1n30s-LKus7XDJA0eXbd5n3f9qDcQOWP
This is a complete series.. 😊
Thank you 😊
Beauty Love Compassion passion are immortal not in the field of time.Time less does not unfold in time. Death of content of consciousness is a state of bliss. Amazing Sir. Got it sir.Thanks .All 18 conversations are a treasure
Amazing, Intelligent view of death
I'm not afraid of dying myself, but uncomfortable about leaving my beloved pets behind to their lot.
Linda, if you made arrangements now concerning who will take and love your pets if you predecease them, it would ease your mind. (People do that when they have children...just in case, ya know?)☮🕊
I get it! At first it blinks at you. After this part of existence. I'm free of it's conception and my conceptualizations of life's boundaries of it's totality including after it's (This time around in this skin bag I occupy). It's like this is a detour away from the all of me... squeezed into this package in this place with its physics. This whole thing I've been dropped into is just the tip of the all of eternity of which I am and came from in the first place. And even this might not be my first place of existence physically of any image. But I don't know.
Death is no different to before we came into this world
You are right
Exactly
"Beauty is not in the field of consciousness" But the beast is 😉
Thanks for updating me.
BCS.
I think I had a small satori there from remembering when K said "YOU ARE FEAR". now the analyzer is the analyzed. you are all the negativity and suffering. you can actually realize this, try it. when you become your fear, your suffering, it not only loses the suffering aspect, but there is a moment of stillness resulting from it. you TRULY ARE all the things that are going on in your body, e.g. I personally suffer from disease. DO NOT see it as separate from you, you ARE IT. the suffering TURNS INTO joy, it DOES NOT DISAPPEAR, it loses the thought aspect to it. I find this infinitely easier than "accepting it" because in accepting there is still the analyzer and the analyzed, forget about it. you are absolutely your body and not your brain separate from the body. now when this happens there is instant peace and watching. when the satori happens, there is not a part of your experience separate, there is not the realization of the painful stomach as me but aching back is not me, it either is ALL you or it is not. you return to yourself and you won't be surprised, it's not something special. it can happen in many ways, it also happened to me during watchful meditation and during transcendental meditation. the techniques just hint towards it, completely distract from thoughts
The more you analyse, the farthest you are from the indivisible. From the whole.
💀is the end of the KNOWN & the beginning of the UNKNOWN which all of US are terrified about and preferred not to discuss or talk about it directly but rather AVOIDED with Excuses..Regardless whatsoever circumstances are, 💀 will be as natural as birth..Period..
Wow!!! Wow!!!wow!!!🙏🏼❤️🌈
I can't take my eyes off the man's eyebrows.
My eyebrows are obsessed with his eyebrows.
Indians knew reincarnation not correct but solace when suddenly death be sets on oneself when important work is being done to exit without regrets!!
awesome.
Archie Bunker once said, "Death: It's just a part of life."
Humble bows.
The very root of fear and terror is not to be at all.
These videos are priceless. Years ago we would search for for books trying to learn about enlightenment, awaking, spirituality, and then take time to read them. To have videos of J Krishnamurti available to see and hear and him teach about consciousness, the mind, meditation, and many other enlightening topics is utterly amazing.
Thank you for these downloads.
Clearing the mind of nonsense and expertise of solving problems with the source center of mindfulness of the whole picture is worth it later to realize the flowing of large scale to smaller scaled draws and memory of a pump that heart beats that mind calming or up lifting experience phisicly presents for the body to mind and each organization of the body.
"The field of time!!" Be it a week or an eon ... both are but points within the same frame of reference.
Life is memory. Yet, no memory prior to birth, no memory following death.
Did anything really happen at all?
So ... all an illusion, the entire dance? Death is freedom?
Perhaps the only freedom available in this field of time?
Within this fleeting circus we call "reality."
Many seems to remember past lives. Sometimes very convincing. There are also examples of people remember episodes from the womb. Ofc you can dismiss this as nonsense as fanatic believers in materialism and scientism do. But that doesn't make these experiences go away.
We do have memory prior to birth, many children can have memories of their past life and speak of it, say where they lived, describe their family, or perhaps how they died in WW2.
As a spirit we remember all our life and family after death. Consciousness continues after death within our soul/spirit.
Believing that any part of us exists after death is only for cowards who can not mentally accept or face the fact that every life is finite .
End of story !
So it is observing all the content of Consciousness without looking at anything particularly.
Beautiful things do perish, but "beauty" does not perish. Beauty is not limited to a few things, be it a structure made by man or a sunset. Beauty gives one joy, a joyous person dies but joy doesn't die. Beauty, Truth, Joy ..... these are not the 'content of consciousness'. Isn't that a grand discovery???
his knowledge made me more responsible and free man. In these vedio I learn how incomplete thoughts paralises and they start coming once same incident occurs, if not our mind will be dull.
Great conversation
“The emptying of consciousness means the consciousness which has created its own limitations by its content comes to an end.”
I think he is talking about karma bicause carma is the kontent if the consciounes separates from carme
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"Dying to the 'me'" ...
Free my will from my ego - from my selfishness...
... "We go right through the red light!"
"Be aware of the whole thing -consciousness- without any trace of discernment... CHOICELESS AWARENESS" ....
Sounds horrible
As confidence without acuity is borderline too🌹🌹🌹
@@FootyFrenzyHD 'choicelessness' sounds horrible at first...a trick of the mind, a trick of time...
Then it's freing...
Allan W Anderson is magic.
Legends listening!
Always hungry for more....every time these videos end
too smart for my brain, exploding pigeon
Only J. K.
Analyser is the analysed ..means mind pretends that it is different from analysed but actually both are the part of mind..means when we got that ..suddenly they both vanish ! 😄
Good
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I'm more frightened of irreversible decisions, of potential disability and of pain. There is no fear in death itself.
Arguably:
language evolved to coordinate our efforts to survive
out of which developed abstract thinking.
'Conscious' is merely our label for our ability to think abstractly.
Instinctual is what our ancestors were
before language and abstract thinking made them conscious.
Reactive is what our ancestors were
before chemical replication founded evolution.
Death is just the observing of the passing of what is already past and that...what we cling 2 as repeating dream- believe patterns and 2 become aware of it.
In a sense we are always in a after- life...until we truly leave the mind or thoughts beside and go into that deeper intelligence...which is not the accustemed and framed mind.
IMO a heart worthy of the name not filled with love in the present can't help being attached to things it loved in the past.No amount of intellectual understanding can make up for that.KM keeps saying he doesn't believe in analysis yet they spend an hours doing it
@Randy Backgammon -hi Randy. I think this was recorded at a time when "analysis" was big and very in vogue. Everybody had an analyst. So I think that is what he was opposing- the idea that so many went to "a professional analyst" for years on end.