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J Krishnamurti - The Real Revolution - 2. Observing ourselves
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J Krishnamurti - The Real Revolution - 2. Observing ourselves
Man has made himself incapable of facing what is, inwardly. Therefore he has a concept about it and acts according to that concept. Therefore the fact, the concept and action are in contradiction and there is a battle going on. The interval between the observer and the observed is time, containing numerous ideas which prevent actual observation of the fact.
In relationship, the observer is the image, looking at an image which has been created about the other. So the relationship between the observer and the observed is not actually relationship. When the observer has no image, then the observer is not different from observation. ‘What is’ is the observer, not ‘the observer is looking at what is’. There is no quality of choice in this.
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One of the most commendable things of JK's videos is that you can ponder his words without interruptions! It has NO ADS. Isn't it perfectly splendid?
Thank you - we strive to maintain Krishnaji's teachings as devoid of distractions as possible.
@@KFoundation thanks 🙏🙏🙏
@@KFoundation You guys are awesome. I can't express how grateful I am to you people for publishing all these divine videos free of cost. May I don't get enlightened but you get enlightened as soon as possible
Yes, it is!
@@KFoundation We are grateful to you guys
You guys are lucky to have this man on film, and on youtube. Most people don't know anything about this man, including his teachings. The football 🏈 score is more important, the national hypnotic diversion.
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It’s not because you have access that you understand… the all work is to be done… also what do you know about others… it’s so huge
The football score itself is not the problem. You can still enjoy it for what it is and not make it bigger or more important than what it is.
What difference does it make what people are distracted by? That's life; that's the way the mind works with most people. This is a solitary endeavor of finding out what YOU are.
I agree....watching him since a year
"As long as there is fear, that fear will take shelter in belief".
~ j krishnamurti
Belief = crystallization of fear ! .
A fearful mind
.....searches for beliefs to fall back on
.....clings to beliefs for security
Seekers are fearless , Believers are fearful !
@@dharmashekhar1047 p
Wow!
@@dharmashekhar1047 sayerth your mind
This man changed my life. Everyday listening to him is meditation.
No brother..meditation is far beyond than listening and pleasing..meditation is ur own domain where no words will utter ..only peace will be there..its a joy uncomparable🙇thnq..
J krish would tell you , " what is meditation " 😅
@@richboiikosmic2177 No meditate from what? You see… meditate is to see truth…you understand…what I am talking about.
Yes
same
How could I express that the videos of K are the most incredible thing I see in my life? Thanks for sharing
Ying!
Ying!
Agreed, 🎯 he's totally got it imho 💕
You read my mind! It’s absolutely wonderful, perfect, he penetrates in one’s soul.
Dont express observe it
Listening him , itself is meditation !!
Oh yes
The power of love
That’s sooo true
Very true sir. Pure essence
So true!!
Being Indian I was not aware of JK ,but now I see after gone many places I find JK is rare gem.he is talking great things.thx uploader
Then you should know, he did must difficult thing to almost so many humans an even philosophers, and thats travelling aroun the world, and not attaching himself to any group, nation or form of society, it's so feersome to nobelong yourself to any categories or nation but in the same time be so free and conscious.
I really envy him
This man is a unique combination of clarity and purity. Thank you RUclips and officials of this channel
for sharing wisdom.
Especially in times like these we should listen to people like Krishnamurti! There's so much talking today. Experts and so-called specialists are trying to beat their simple-minded knowledge around the ears of the vulgar people! But all this half-knowledge does not even come close to the quality and truth of this great Friend of Man Krishnamurti!!!!!
I feel sad knowing that most of the people in this video are dead. But the fact that they shared an afternoon in woods listening to K gives me immense joy and peace.
why sadness if everyone of us dies
It's just a feeling.
K is the most incredible person i have seen in my life. and that is fact, i wonder if you see that Sir.
you follow?
Awesome !!one of the greatest saints and mystics of the 20 th century..in fact his books must be made compulsory in our schools and colleges so that our young minds can understand his novel and unique ideas and apply to their lives to make a better men and women evolving in our panic stricken and unhappy world of ours!!!
To have the courage to be nothing and to admit that you do not know,
are part of the wisdom K tried to impart.
It's odd that many people have extraordinary intellect but they can't perceive the same thing as Krishnamurti. The way he explained it is very clear, in simple words, but it seems to escape most of us.
Crystal clear guru.Great.
@@rajkumariraina3141 he hated the word Guru. He only asks us to share the experience that he felt with observation .
I am having difficulty understanding him,
@@delkhwazrasool2851 you have to listen with involvement
Mesmerizing! The "authenticity", the "contemporary" nature of these talks!
Love K's 'teachings'!
Michael Rivadavia
Authentic? Haven’t you heard Hinduism? Jiddu didn’t come up with anything authentic. He’s studied and understood almost every single ancient text from India. He is awakened. It’s is simple, not easy. Aum shanti.
I don't understand why when I listen this new fresh though my tears start to roll down continuously i can't explain why I cannot control it because of it is natural my mind is in trans and I'm completely blanck and I will practice it know and perform the process of thought not affected by any past thoughts and experiences completely smacked by it
My daughter sent me the link for J K video to watch about 6 months ago, I find them very interesting to listen to his video's, I enjoy listening to him.😊👌
When K asks the audience “I wonder if anyone knows what I am saying..” I always yell out “YES! Please go on!”
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That's what I thought too... But I couldn't have been more wrong 😐
the greatest of teachings that reveal ones self; his teachings are a gift to humanity ! My" pranams" .
He wouldn't agree with the word ' teachings '
I am so grateful to have access to Krishnamurti's work thank you for making it available. He was so instrumental in my spiritual journey. I have found a free online meditation practice called "The Steps to Knowledge" which I feel is very much a "how-to-manual" which helps humans reach those states that Krishnamurti describes so well.
Thank you
JK said, knowledge prevents understanding. Burden of knowledge will bind you, not liberate.
Knowledge is important, but not when we try to manage our mind and brain and our way of acting. Then acting can be only the true one. When one needs help, I help, when one is thirsty, I give her/him water, when one confines my freedom, I do not communicate with her/him and so on. No choice, what is better for me, no comparison, no consideration. ❤
Listening to JK is like meditation. My father was deeply interested in JKs teaching and had chance of attending the lectures at Chennai - India.
Notice how he finishes almost every sentence of the interviewer that is asking the questions. Like he can read his mind and wording.
09:10 "...and without self knowing, man is caught everlastingly in confusion and misery"
09:53 "..we have developed a whole network of escapes. And we are caught in those escapes. And those escapes are preventing us from understanding our problems"
.... "and organized religions, dogmas, ideologies etc. have taken us away from being able to face these problem. Not transcend the problems, but actually face them"
With all the entertainment surrounding us, these has become more relevant than ever. It's like we have trapped our minds into this so that the society we have created (work and consum) can live on. How can we as a unity escape this cycle?
Toast Brot ‘ How can we escape ? ‘ It begins by knowing the truth - this particular truth, that those entertainments themselves are traps, rather that the escapes they pretend to be. You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free. Now that you know this truth, and if you are an aspirant of truth, then you are now free from those traps. They can’t hold you now because you know the truth - if you are a truth seeker.
While just learning myself, I do yearn for truth - am an aspirant. I suspect that each time a new truth is realized, one is set free from the false traps and delusions that would obscure that truth. We continue to realize truth and find the freedom that only comes from truth.
@@toastbrot869 yes... Realistically felt.
@@carpenterfamily6198 What is truth?
@@guillermochavez2515 The truth is what you don't know, seek it there
Real revolution starts from his sharing of truth! Countless thanks to this Awakened Being 🙏 My respect to you Sir J. Krishnamurti ❤️
Krishnamurti helped me out of a messy life, world and mind. I regenerated my heart and mind after a druggy adolescence. I know there is a beautiful world outside of reality which is symbolized by the clock which is just a an endless merry go round and an often wasteful utility.
What did you do on an operational/practical level that has helped you to reach that better life?
OMG! Brilliance. Mere brilliance. How can something so difficult be articulated so clearly? Thanks Sir! Genius!!!!
"People have asked me about it before, and I always feel they expect to hear the dramatic
account of some sudden miracle through which I suddenly became one with the universe. Of
course nothing of the sort happened. My inner awareness was always there; though it took me
time to feel it more and more clearly; and equally it took time to find words that would at all
describe it. It was not a sudden flash, but a slow yet constant clarification of something that was
always there.
" - JK to Rom Landau
He is so very inspiring, ok, he has not those great manners of speaking, which draw the masses... But, his simple way is good for some of us, the ones who are truly interested in learning 🙏💝.
15:50 You can only see the whole chessboard when you not playing it. If you moved even one pawn, you can't see the whole of it, you are just focused on that move. You must have free and clear mind to be able to see. That is what he means.
Well said Sir.
After some years of searching, I cried when I started understanding what JK said.
What I find the most interesting about J-K is the way in which he engages his audience. He doesn't speak with an air of authority but rather asks all to join him in investigating a question or topic. In doing so, he allows us all to find the answers within ourselves rather than being told.
To observe without choice is the beginning of self knowing !
The observer(the mind) and the observed (the image mind has created about what you look at, when you look at a tree, you don't actually look at the tree, you have an image about the tree/person) are 2 images looking at each-other.
When the observer has no image at all, THEN the observer is the observed.
The mind "observes" with the image she created, all you see is limited, cuz it's in relation and comparison with that image about "self".
Fear finds form in belief !
You got it..😄👍
Thanks for explaination
Thank you for these uploads. So grateful to access this timeless wisdom here in NZ
A mi me parece que este señor dio un ejemplo de honestidad y humildad al mundo declarando que la Verdad es una tierra sin caminos.
Jiddu’s talks were the best thing that happened to me … other than Vipassana ( Gautam Buddha’s meditation/ teaching ) … Challenge is to “maintain” the state of mind … continuous observation / awareness….
This man is a unique combination of clarity and purity. thanks for sharing
Thanks a lot sir for sharing all these
Do not know who said: " I am not what I think I am, I am not what you think I am, I am what I think you think I am"... is recalled incidentally.
Thanks for great video.
This channel brings me immediately and sensibly to what I am nearly made of over all these years
A great human being so outspoken and free spirited. I promise I will listen but not get attached as I’m sure you wouldn’t want that. So long
Grande grande Grande . Grazie per averlo pubblicato l'ho letto tutto negli anni 80 e ora che si possono vedere i suoi video è una gioia grande.
The themes are so actual to our days. So much love and compassion for humanity, listening to him gives me hope.
Thank you
Beautifully compiled videos.
"How can an image see another image?" I'd never heard of this before.Wonderfully struck me hard.
Thanks for this video.
That sentence has also caught my attention greatly indeed. It is at the basis of his ideas on conditioning and it affects one's freedom...
I love this guy, he is a great human
Indeed was unique one of the greatest af all times. His ideas unfolding in present 2020
Such personalities should be kept alive forever
A great speaker of modern time .
Ir más allá significa ver sin el pensamiento, sin la imagen, sin proyectar nada en la mente. Solo observar ese instante viendo la Totalidad sin fragmentación.
Es la manifestacion de la apertura infinita que todos tenemos... se manifiesta con la vacuidad misma
I am living a life same as respected Krishna murthy sir. Questioning everything and trying to understand everything. Even I can explain these topics to some good extent.
The only problem with this path is the money. I don’t know how to earn from this path. I am looking to build a career in this path. Is a career possible in this path? Can we earn? I didn’t mean to commercialise it but at least it should earn basic needs.
We hail this knowledge but I doubt people invest in it to know it.
I am addicted to taste of knowing the reality of existence.
L'unica rivoluzione possibile. Grande Anima di ogni tempo.🙏⚡
Does anyone see a paradox in comprehending JK's teachings about observing without thought and word... while wanting to listen to more of his talks and joining in discourse?
It is like exercise. He is so well spoken, the words are like tools, like a workshop for our minds.
I agree with you, and do feel puzzled many a times, although I understand that this is due the the tricks of thought we are accustomed to in the intellectual tradition of the West.
I am very much impressed by JK teachings in word and spirit in total as it is
Who are You ? to get impressed, a VIP !
@@RaviPp521114 He's just appreciating his teachings, sir. If that thing made him a little happy or enlightened then is it bad? No right? So please let people do their things.
@@Radheshyam-uh6qg he is making it absolutely clear that his aim is to make man unconditionaly free. Dont be so silly to comment on his idiosyncracy. Know that he who says to have known him, is lying . There are deeper things involved !
@@RaviPp521114 Okay.
I don’t quite get all his teachings but I feel the truth and the love in what he says!
So utterly beautiful! 🤎
"So if one can put away all ideas of gradual revolution, inwardly, then we have to face the fact "what is" inwardly, each minutes, and see if that fact, if "what is" cannot absolutely be eliminated, immediately. That is real question."
Vaciar la mente de lo conocido es el " Arte de ver las cosas tal y como son " Liberarse de lo conocido de instante en instante es el verdadero " Arte de meditar " Es descubrir a cada instante la Belleza sin la distorsión de la mente y capta al instante la frescura sin conocimiento almacenado.
excelência de sabedoria!
¡Muchas gracias por compartir! Siempre será una gran oportunidad de introspección y "verdadero cambio" para todo ser humano escucharle.
Meu primeiro livro de Krishnamurt foi um presente do editor no Brasil. Qdo tranalhava em Banco BCN no Rio de Janeiro. Aos 18 anos. Sr. Caruso. Muito obrigada.
My most beloved one,I am an unfortunate one who couldn't have born on when you were alive,I missed you
Thank you for bringing this to us 🙏🙏🙏🙏
just try what our friend says.observe your thoughts every single one for several hours or until the thoughts will come to the end and you will see everything what he was talking about, just try it - thats is the only one message he had been trying to deliver to us to humanity. Please try it
Escuchar a éste Ser Majestuoso ...Ufff! Una Paz insondable apacigua todo Mi Ser ; - )
A true prophet. He spent his life dedicating the truth within.
🌲🍁🙏🙏자유🍃자비로운사랑🙏🙏🍂🌳
Thank you for making this channel 🙏💙
Muchas gracias
He is fascinated 🙏👍😍
Thanks K
He had enough love for the whole of humanity.
.."Free the minds from FEAR.."..🌹🤝 with Mr. Krisnamurti..😊..
what a man ! What a mind !
Great Master!
Mindblowing...Help me Unterstand...😁
26:24 There is no end to attending to meetings, reading, discussions.... 27:36 Knowing of own self is beginning and end of all miseries
Knowing oneself it's own chore.
Don't know.. It is beyond feel or perception to know the self... If felt achieved is but Bliss... Regards...
Merci à Hervé joos de m'avoir initié 🙏🕊️💜M Christine
Knowing self is freedom from all misery..jk sir..one of the greatest mind of all times
I found my reality, misery, my ignorance and my redemption in the experience and wisdom of sir jiddu’s Krishnamurti like H.Holiness Dalai Lama always say: the answer of all suffering is in oneself..... one love one human
He deserves the Greatest thinker
Primera vez que lo veo y escucho,sabia de el,si me dejo
.con desafios,liberar la mente
Speaking of insult,feeing of him is intelligence.resonate with him is inspiration.
aqui tem sabedoria...
Gracias por subir este material 🙏
That's inward experience. Don't worry if you are not filtered all words in your mind. Because there is need of intellect to get deeper into these sentences. Which can be attained only by conciousness.
Don't worry if you are not getting any clue any comparison any questions any relation with your past memories. Because if you are not experienced a thing a idea a feeling how you can tell it as knowledge. Don't worry you are in safe zone
Comprendo perfectamente. El mensaje y propósito de este señor, a mi también me conmueve y me encoge el corazón ver este mundo inhumano y saber que pudiendo cambiar la gente sigan sin cambiar, llega un momento que has de aceptar el hecho de que eres impotente y dejar de luchar por algo que aunque posible y muy necesario que sea no va a suceder, es una pena ( por el bien común) que siempre llevarán las almas conscientes de la unidad existencial,
Empieza por tí, deja de poner excusas
This lectures are .... There is no word. Only to feel
Thank you
13:45.
The fact, formula and the actions that one derives and performs are always in contradictory to one another cause he has just assumed to understand the concept of the fact but not the fact itself. The fact here implies the “true psychological inward fact”
Thx for this observation. Really quite a critical point...
Tant de vérités émergeant de sa parole !!!! 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Ο πιο γλυκος Ανθρωπος και μεγαλη ψυχη!!!
Who has time these days to look at a flower ?
We are indeed in crisis.
You better observe a flower. because that will get you out of your crisis we are in.
This is what he is exactly talking about. A conditioned and a biased mind.
Your Not in Kansas 😂 AnYmore$$!!!
That is just illusion that stops you from reality.
@@mdsabih do you think he'll take the time to understand it ,and what it means 🐒😂✌??
Krishnamurti was a great rationalist and psychologist. He dives down to explore the mystery of mind. He very seriously analyses the psychological construct of man. He has invented his own technique of meditation. He hates to imitate any body .
Greatest philosopher of man and society.
True divine. Niriham
Muchissimas gracias al traductor.....💙🙏
When i observe a tree attentively, my mind says thats a mango tree,thats the bark,thats the leaves i m looking at n so on.In doing so there is an observer n the observed, 2 diff entity. Hence my sincere question is how do i observe without the interference of the mind so that the observer is the observed?
Yeah exactly. How? Thought is always there. Let's suppose then that you just "experience" the tree which you can kind of do if you are meditating - just observing consciousness. But how does one make decisions from this perspective?
What actually being talked is to see WHAT IS ?
Right ?
Means what is in front of you a Tree but while looking at it your conditioning is in such a manner that you immediately in mind says " Oh that's a tree, leaves , bark and so on... "
So what you have to do is to see,observe,being aware (Choicelessly )of the mind then , that it is saying it is tree, bark...
If you say oh ,damn i want to watch the tree and this mind is not allowing me , observe this choicelessly
Don't escape , be with it..
In this way you observe what is....
I feel it is clear now..
@@suyashsharnagat2912 I wonder what you mean by 'don't escape stay with it...'
There is the observation of 'what is' and that also includes the 'what is' of all your thoughts. Hence it is a total process of observer and observed. Your "thoughts" are not something to supress or dismiss. That is the wonder of consciousness.
His message resonates. There's a strength component to it.
At the end, did he say that "knowing of oneself is the beginning and the end of all misery"? This is fascinating to me. It seems like it contradicts most people's hopes of what spirituality, self-inquiry, or the path of enlightenment will lead to.
Good point... this final sentence also caught my attention.
Al pensamiento se le ha dado una extraordinaria importancia y jamás ningún pensamiento por noble o santo que crea ser puede resolver el problema de la Vida...
45 anos palestrando, analisando, discutindo, dezenas de escolas montadas de acordo com a ideia dele e... simplesmente NADA mudou. nem uma unica pessoa despertou... tudo segue o mesmo curso de sempre... tempo e esforço em vão.
Hope is fear... hope makes us create beliefs...
At the point the observer only observes the observer, the observation can get rid of this observer too. Because the observer can get lost, you are not any observer at all. What's left when you (the observer) have left, is everlasting silence. Not a dead silence of nothingness, but a living, intense silence. What we are? Everlasting silence. All our lifes are disturbances of everlasting silence. They will come and they will go, like single ideas come and go. Have comfortable disturbances.