I Bought a Very Cheap Kia Sorento 4x4
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I bought a very cheap 2003 Kia Sorento V6. Let's see if it would it make sense to buy one as a winter runaround?
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I bought one new in 2004 kept it for 12 years I can honestly say in all that time the only thing needing replacing for MOT were bulbs. Absolutely faultless car loved it never let me down ever
You did regular maintenance checks?
@@alphadawg7360 just annual MOT where my mechanic checked it over and serviced
I like those real-life reviews. You get an idea of what could possibly happen. I very much like the repair costs are given, it is a very good indication for potential purchase.
Not the most exciting car, but can we afford exciting cars?
That Mitsubishi 3.5l engine is bullet proof. I had the Hyundai version for 10 years. Never had a single issue with it. Love your work 👍
I have a 2005 sorento and as much as everyone slagged me for getting it I have no complaints cracking motor . And will b having another one does absolutely everything . And only paid £950
Still better than LR they always end up in the garage after 6 months.
Well worth the pennies & always pulling out the LR'S.
Lol
I still like the look of these early Sorentos, same with the Ssangyong Rexton. They look somewhat modern and comfortable, but still ready to get rough.
I’ve had mine for 10+ years and it’s a beast I’m at around 160k miles things a tank I love it
Love the way you mix it up with near new and proper old used motors! It makes it much more enjoyable/interesting. Keep them coming, we ‘need you’ more than ever right now 😂
Haha thanks for watching. I've got lots more to come
Used to own an 06 with 4WD specifically for use in mountain areas with snow. It worked great in the few times I actually ever used in 4WD, but it worked brilliantly in heavy rain and terrible conditions. That truck plowed right on. Some one ran a red light and hit me and I never got over that truck. Just bought a used 2008 version that does not have 4WD but it still has everything else I need. And it was dirt cheap with only 200K miles on it. It is nice to be back in a Sorento.
that ssangyong grill had be baffled til the end haha
Another great video Matt.
I love the way that this channel always reviews cars that the normal guy in the street can afford and I can't think of any other RUclips channel that does this.
So thank you for this and I look forward to many more sensible reviews.
Bootneck Totally agree.
Try Hub Nut, he has some cars even I can afford, City Rover anyone? anyone?
Thanks for watching
Keep on supporting best way to give back for his honesty is watch another 10 vids 💪👍
My 2006 Kia Sorento rear wheel drive has 310,000 miles on it. No major mechanical issues, just normal stuff: radiator, starter, etc. It's now having calalytic converter issues or some kind of vacuum leak which I'm trying to resolve but it's the best car I've ever owned.
Have you changed the timing belt?
Ive got one of these. It's the 2005 2.5 litre diesel. 2nd generation I believe. It's a great SUV. Really comfortable and economical.
1st gen turbo diesel are so reliable, durable and capable off-road machine. I've got one as a daily driver.
few years ago before i retired, i was a trade plate driver for a firm specialising in 4x4s.I drove all the main makes hundreds of miles most days.I found the sorrento to be most enjoyable and comfy of everything i collected.Thanks for bringing back a few good memories for me
Thanks for watching :)
In 2010 I purchased a 7 passenger 2-wheel drive 2011 Kia Sorento. After 11 years and 100k miles, I have paid for the car, normal maintenance, two batteries, two sets of windshield wiper blades, and that's all! The dealer included "Tires for life" so they have paid for two sets of tires. My son now drives it 50 miles one-way back and forth to college. It has turned out to be the best value in new auto purchasing I have ever experienced.
Thats good going
@@HighPeakAutos, My neighbor purchase a new 2012 Sorento like mine and she has had transmission and engine problems. With Kia, it seems to be luck of the draw. In my experience, the best cars are made in their country of origin. Kia's and Hyundai's made in Korea, Toyota's and Honda's made in Japan, and Mercedes and BMW's made in Europe are the most reliable.
That grill really sends the message - "I defy all prejudice!"
I have a Sorento here on Greece. It’s a 2003 and we quite like it and it seems to have loads of life left in it.. However, around the 15 year mark everything, and I mean near enough everything, started to go wrong.. Woth all the new bits it’s like a new car..
Another interesting point is that Rats love the KIA plastic, which we found out to our horror.. It seems that KIA uses peanut oil to lubricate molds and wires.. Be careful where you store it.
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I find your videos are the perfect compliment to the supercars and classics shown in Harry's Garage. From Bentley's to erm... Kia's. Real world motors to keep your feet on the ground when you've had enough of dreaming.
Thanks! I appreciate it
I've just bought a 2007 Manual / Diesel and it's in really good condition inside and out. It's a great car to drive, I need it for towing a large trailer. Looked at 4 others and every single one had serious rust problems underneath, if you want one, check the rust first and that it isn't causing any structural defects underneath and get it cleaned / treated.
Thanks for this review.
I guess this car is a good option to use in an African country with only 25% of roads covered in tarmac 😅
I’ve got a first generation BL serento V6 here in Australia. It’s has 460.000 klm on the clock and still pulls like a train. I brought it of an elderly couple who had it since new and was used to tow a small caravan and sometimes a dog trailer to dog shows all over Australia. It is DUEL FUEL petrol lpg and will travel up to 1000 klm on both tanks. It has side steps led bar lights air bag rear suspension heavy duty tow bar it’s quite And comfortable has an excellent driving position good brakes And excellent vision. All that and like you I payed 2000 bucks. Absolute bargain. Took it up to the mountains and it EASILY followed my brothers D22 Nissan up every track we threw at it.
Another known issue with the Diesels is the injection seals. They degrade and allow some oxidation and sooting in the oil sump. The carbon build-up blocks the oil pickup pump and when that happens, major damage can occur. It's the same engine that's in the Hyundai Santa fe and iload. This issue happened to my iload/H1 work van. Ceased the engine. Broke the turbo. Complete rebuild. 18k repair bill (New Zealand dollars)
Luckily insurance paid.
Thanks for the review
This was my dream car and still very time I see this KIA just said this is the SUV I want. But till today money keeps me under its control. Can afford even a $500 car. Damnnn. Don't u have something for me over there?
Hi Matt. Just discovered your vids this evening. They're great, so please keep up the postings and entertained us through the lockdown and beyond. Can I make a slight suggestion? You've mentioned on a couple of vids featuring 4x4s that they can be ideal for the winter. That's true, but most folk fail to grasp that it's not the 4x4 system itself, but WINTER TYRES, that are important. A 2x4 car with winter tyres will always out perform a 4x4 wearing summer tyres when the roads are cold or snowy (below 7 degrees) for improved breaking distance and grip. A 4x4 shod with winters is 'the Daddy'. I also live in a very rural area (North Pennines) and have witnessed 4x4 floundering when it's snowy. Thanks
Thats quite right. I do often advise people to buy winter tyres first before they splash out on a 4x4
Can you do a "Best buys under $5k" video for different classes? While I'm partial to an estate, I watch the rest for general knowledge and entertainment.! Keep up the good work!
Good idea!
Cant beat it for 1k, cheap useful tool 👌
A reliable old work horse that's a lot of a car for a grand , good review
Thanks for watching
we just returned from a 3200mile trip to Spain and back in ours. bought new 16 years ago 2004 auto 2.5 diesel with 180000 miles on it pulled our 1.5-ton caravan and never skipped a beat. I know it's only worth £500 but try it with a land rover (if you dare).if they put a seven-year warranty on their cars .they would go bankrupt after 5...
The engine in that Kia is the bulletproof Mitsubishi 6G74. I have in my Pajero. Superb engine, not fuel efficient, but seriously tough.
I currently own a 2005 Kia Sorento 2.5 CRDI and I love the car. It's got 296000km, no rust what so ever, only need to replace the fuel pump. Can't complain, powerful engine, great car.
Very honest review, I live in Montreal, Canada and I had exactly the same problems you mentioned, mostly rust and electrical problems but a part from that they really last! I had a 2007 Kia Sorento lx for almost 4 years and I just exchanged it for another Kia Sorento 2008 because the old one had lots of rust but never gave me any problems and it had 320 000 KM and well as you probably know there’s snow up here most of the year and let me tell you that I’ve never used my shovel since I got my first Kia. Pretty reliable 4x4
Pleased to hear it! :)
He is spot on. I got my 25. Diesel 7 years ago and waxoyld it straight away.. Only the basic model but one of most comfy and easy to maintain cars ive had. Oil filters a bit awkward but can be got with several extensions and oil filter strap if u take heat shield off turbo.. Saves crawling underneath.. One of best vehicles ive had
This one is going to be the OddBall. I close to purchasing 2009 2,5td Sorento with 170HP and 400 of torque. All this because I was looking for a kinda like the one here. Ended up with brown leather everywhere, an OLED display panel, and all the bell and whistles cars around 2010 had. It has way better interior plastic. The interior look changed from gray with gray to graphite with black and brown. It is not much used at all 100k miles. The turbo and clutch were changed with a double mass wheel as well. I would call it boring if I wouldn't want to go for lifting the body, changing tires for Off-road, M/T, and adding steel bumpers front and back.
The price is 4200 euro!!!
I live in rural N. Yorkshire. 4X4's in use round here would surprise people - Dacia, FIAT, Ssangyong, Subaru and Suzuki abound. What the wannabe rural set don't get is that real country folk don't spend £90k on a fancy LR 4X4 and then wreck it - farmers and retired folk are much much more savvy. ( none of them buy a Proton Savvy btw ) the Chelsea tractor set/ WAG's have fallen for a lie
No you are just tight in Yorkshire
Hahaha
I'm in Devon Darren loads of old defenders. The favourite here used to be the daihatsu four track. Now the farmers tend to use early mitsubishi l200's. The little jimny is also supposed to be brilliant
Great tow cars, shame the chassis rots, had a 57 plate which the fuel tank clogged up with crap & starved it with fuel.
Cat got nicked too!
Good to drive, comfortable & capable on the dirt.
I just found this channel and I have to say that I am quite surprised and impressed. You are so direct and to the point, no embellishments for dramatic effect. You also remind me of myself in that you have that vast knowledge base of common failure modes for everything on 4 wheels. You can only acquire that through decades of dealing with every single one of those broken bits and bobs personally. I bet you can correctly guesstimate what problems a vehicle will have based on the year, make, model, miles and location 9 of 10 times right? And if someone is having a specific problem you can correctly diagnose the vehicle based on an accurate description of the symptoms, conditions and variables at least 75% to 80% of the time. Am I right? I bet I am. I tell people that I'm like the most useless trivia expert. I know so many things that help me out in absolutely no way unless a car is involved lol. Ugh, well after that incredibly long winded comment you probably stopped reading but you've got a new subscriber, cheers from USA!
P. S. Your love for cars and ability to appreciate every car in its own way. That's a sign of people who understand that cars are all massive piles of compromises. Don't change a thing brother.
Haha yes youre right! Thanks for subscribing :)
I bought a cheap Kia Sorento, I loved it, driving it was like sitting in your favourite armchair..it was as old as that one but a 2.5 diesel. Then it died when the rear axle hanger snapped and tore the suspension off..it got wrote off.
How long did it last? I have 2006 model and no issues so far
Less than a year.
@@frankcoldwell4424 Ok how is that possible? Was it a high mileage one? Because I have one of these for 12 years and no major issues. It has been a great car.
Kustu I don’t know, it had done less than 80k. Maybe the damage was there when I bought it despite the new MOT. I think it’s possible that it might not have been a kosher MOT, just saying as the guy selling it has moved away now, small foreign run sales pitch.
Frank Coldwell Hi I own a Kia Sorento and Kia replaced my rear axel brackets free of charge about 2 years ago. Not sure if they still do this now, they are known for rusting out, Kia know about it and should have recalled them all back but they didn’t. Sorry to hear yours broke. And your right about it been comfy to drive and it’s a cracking tow car as well 👍
Bought a cheap Kia Carens MPV for a grand this year and so far quite impressed. Very plasticky but cheap to run and maintain (2nd hand parts on ebay are readily available). The 2.0 diesel engine feels plenty powerful and I'm very happy with it.
Very nice!
I grew up in a rural area. Most everyone had a beater four-wheel-drive, to get around in the winter...old pick-ups, Jeeps, Broncos, Scouts, Land Cruisers, and Subarus. (Also VW Beetles). Many of our roads ran across rugged terrain, and were un-paved. During the summer months, the dirt roads were wash boards often coated with tar, to keep the dust down. No point in driving an expensive vehicle, due to the assault on your finish.
Thats right
got the same car, you are spot on.
one more thing to check: valve cover gasket, they tend to fail. not the end of the world, but you will fail MOT.
reparable DIY, althought tiring: the V6 was no designed with kindness for the mechanic in mind.
It’s so hard to get to the ignition coils I will say that total pain in the ass!
The fuel tanks can de-laminate inside, and the broken up coating then blocks up the filter in the fuel pump which sits under the rear seat, so you can get to it to clear it out. The only real fix is to take the tank out and have it recoated inside, or replace it. This happened to our diesel Sorento - ours was a manual and I really liked it.
fuel tank: rub soap around the seem, that will stop the leak for a little while. keep a bar of soap in the boot and give the seem a good rub every once in while.
Last time I saw a leaking seam on a fuel tank was on a 1980 Allegro! Thought that problem was a thing of the past. Glad you explained the grille as every time I saw it I was thinking ssangyong surely?!
Sadly rust is still a problem on a lot of cars when they get past 10 years old
Great video, I have mine since october, its a late 06 XT manual and I have to say its a lot of car for little money. Now with this corona virus crap going around I have lifted mine and going to waxoil whole underbody. Its a challenge, as you mentioned they do rust quite a lot but, they are no worse than early Land Rovers. I had 02 Discovery and have to say this Kia is much more comfortable and nicer to drive. Yes probably not that capable off road but who need that these days. All back roads have tarmac on them and if you looking to go off road you have to pay in some adventure centre or some local quarry...
Yeah thats quite right :)
Nice to be taken into the Derbyshire countryside with Matt as entertaining as ever - seven minutes away from the wall-to-wall armageddon coverage. Carry on raising our spirits Matt before some of us oldies forget how to drive!
Thanks for watching. I've got plenty more videos coming soon
I bought one just like that, same year for a grand back in 2008 with 70k miles with a broken timing belt. I intended to fix and flip it but I ended up keeping it because it was so much better than I expected it to be and I used it and abused it for years. I towed with it and it pulled way more weight than it ever should have been able to.
This is more like it 👍. Cars that us mere mortals would buy and run
The condition for something that is 17 years old is very impressive.
25k views in a day! Mate i remember being subbed when you had 500 subscribers. Here's to 100k subs plus. You are actually really good at this whole tube malarkey
I know, its crazy! I cant believe how quickly its taken off. Thanks for your support :)
A big lump of a thing but at a grand can’t be bad. Nice to see the Peak District too.
We had this Kia years ago. One of the best vehicles I have driven. Miss this..
This exact one?
@@HighPeakAutos no not that exact one you where driving but in black and grey.
Watch out for the inside of the fuel tank delaminating and contaminating the fuel causing (very scary) engine cut-outs at random intervals. My 2003 Sorento Diesel had this issue but Kia ran a scheme to fix them FOC as they’d previously acknowledged it was a manufacturing fault. I think that scheme has ended now though, so if you buy a mk1 used, try to find out if it’s had its fuel tank replaced. That issue aside, my Sorento was excellent and very capable in all conditions.
Oh, and if you get the choice, go for spec levels with the manually selected 4x4 as opposed to TOD because with TOD the rear axle wind up can be quite severe and needs the tension releasing on a regular basis by going somewhere muddy/icy (and safe of course) and giving it a good dose of wheelspin. But that’s half the fun, right? 😋
And finally, if you get one with the premium sound package fitted, buy a good head unit and prepare to get the fillings blown out of your teeth - it’s incredible.
I had a 2.5 deisel a few years ago and put two engines into it.
They had a sump issue that starved the engine of oil.
Nailed it Mat '
Rugged was the word you were looking for :)
I agree totally with you '
And no I'm not a rent boy :)
Another good video. Funny enough I was thinking of buying a house in the Welsh Valleys and a 4x4 is essential if you want to get to work in the floods or snow. I was wondering about a 4x4 on a budget and you go and make this video. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for watching
Was just waiting for you to mention rust. Your spot on, rear door arch, side sills can be a issue and rear axel brackets but Kia will replace the rear axel brackets for free. And to mention the timing chain, the main one which goes is the bottom one which sits in the oil sump, had this happen to me, luckily the engine still ran after replacing it. Not cheap though looking at £700 for the full kit and labour hours. Owned mine for 4 years now and what a cracking tow car it is. Another great review 👍.
So this is why I'm sitting in a T shirt in my garden in Trafford with a cold beer. The British weather, perhaps you should buy a cheap 4x4 every winter. Time for a review on a Subaru Forester or Outback, I remember when every other farmer was running Subaru pick ups a vehicle that had been to the Lancia school of rust proofing .
I looked at these as a cheap option before I got my 2010 XC90 for a bit more, good cars.
Thank you for this review, you are really making my car search more valuable and insightful 🤝🏾🤝🏾🤝🏾
I agree with you and think it's a very smart choice on your part. But I'd remove that hideous grill and the weird looking exhaust tip. :-)
I have a 2002 Hyundai Santa Fe V6 AWD and I'm only the second owner. It's the most reliable car I've ever owned and I just won't part with it until it completely dies. No rust and still looks great although the series 1 Santa Fe has this 'organic' look about it. The 2.7 V6 engine is sweet, pulls well (for a small capacity V6) and is quite economical at 25 mpg on average even with just over 175k on the clock.
Everything still works, too. It's worth nothing, so I don't worry about it ever getting nicked.
Considering most of the world is in lock-down, it's appreciated that you are still making content for those of us in stuck in isolation.
Keep safe & thanks.
Thanks for watching. lots more videos to come
Had. 2.5crdi version for 2 years, first year it cost a fair chunk in maintenance, but the second year it didn't cost a penny. Ran better than any other car we have had. Only sold it because the 4wd system stopped working and so was a bit useless for us. I'd have another though
Just got my 17 sorento SXL. Fully loaded and I love it. Cant wait to throw some winter tires on it for next year! Winters in Wisconsin get brutal sometimes. The AWD should be better than my 08 335i rwd 😅😅
I'e owned both a Hyundai Elatntra 2.0 diesel on an 06 plate and an 05 kia People carrier one manual one auto both diesel. Yes they sound a bit agricultural but both were extremely reliable. The elantra even had leather seats heated seats and a sunroof
Great, honest review. Keep up the good work. Nice one.
Thank you so much, though I live in the US. I have a friend that looks like he's found me one of the same year!
This is exactly why I bought my £500 03 Freelander - as a winter runabout but I like it so much I shall keep hold of it as it just went through its MOT no problem
Take propshaft off save a fortune in repairs and fuel
4x4 on a shoestring with all the extras why not. The grill would have to go. 😁
The grille has already gone! Hideous
Yes Hideous, good word for it.😄
Amazing how some of these companies turned themselves round. Used to have people turning noses up at the, not anymore. Hyundai Sante Fe next please 2016 onwards haha :)
Kia/Hyundai have pulled it off. Nobody could have expected that
Boom! smashed it again..soooo much car for a grand!!
Thanks for watching!
Another great vid, as Rich said, keep them coming, you need to buy more cars and possibly output 2 a day...…………...
Pass the evenings better that would
Those 3.5 V6 Sorentos were Mercedes money when new. Would be a lovely big cruiser. Not keen on the grille on that one, much prefer the standard Kia one. But stick a private plate on it and no one would guess it was a 53 plate....
Watching this coz I'm just about to buy one for 2500
That grille is an KDM Kia grille, if I am not mistaken. The normal export grille looks MUCH better in my opinion. The bigger Borego shared the export grille and it was as close to branding as Kia ever got before Pete Schreyer came in and redid the whole lineup with his tiger nose.
Brilliants! Yeah, just the job for scabbing around the PeAk in winter. Nice one Matt.
Best honest review, I need something to use , while my credit is being sorted so I can get something modern. thank you
Great car and yes so underrated. Good video dude
You didn't mention the fuel tank has a plastic coating on the inside which brake's up blocking both filters & clogs up the fuel lines , quite a common problem & not cheap to fix but Kia has replace loads free of charge even old Sorrento's. + The rear sub frame rots very badly & very expensive to replace. Allso the mk 1 suffered with steering rack leaking , front prop shaft problems, & injecter seals failing. But I have a 05 xt & I love it a lot better build quality than my 300tdi discovery .l
I am aware that Kias in the 2000s didnt have the best reputation in quality. I wonder how the Sorento became a great exception
I have an 07 3.8 V6. Great car. Issues with the aerial as you said plus the transmission fluid needs changing often.
I've had an 04 XS diesel for about 5 yrs. 198k on the clock, had new clutch, discs, and rear cross member during that time. Bit of rust round the edges but keeps chugging along and returning 30 odd mpg on a run.
Theyre great workhorses
Great video, I was fortunate to own a 57 plate XE 2.5crdi auto model with only 70 odd thousand miles on the clock. One of the best cars I've owned. Agree about the electric aerial, so had mine disconnected and fitted a windscreen mounted internal aerial (perfect for car washes) and also fitted a rear parking camera linked to a rear view mirror that had a small screen, which would come on as you selected reverse. High driving position and selectable 4wd was ideal for my part of West Sussex, but unfortunately someone drove into the front N/S after skidding on ice in Feb 2019 and it was then deemed a write off by my insurance company. ☹️
1st gen sorento’s are so reliable and great off road
Just crashed myne in the ice and the full cars fucked can’t find another but loved her she will be missed
My 03 manual failed on rot. Was 1500 to repair so i scrapped it. Got a cheap grand vitara xl7 which is just next to useless towing. Just picked up an 05 sorento auto and the difference is night and day on the gearbox. The auto makes the car a pleasure to drive. The manual is way to agricultural for day to day driving. The auto is lovely and smooth though.
Thank you for your videos! I have never owned a 4x4 but I've always wanted to get one and get it out of my system!! 😆 I have a 1984 2.8i ford capri which was my baby for o er 10 years! I want to possibly sell it and get into the 4x4 market always liked the BMW X5! Anyway thanks again for the words of wisdom keep up the good work! 👍 Take care mate 👍
Going through all your old videos as only just recently discovered the channel. Brilliant keep them coming. Liking your Great descriptions. 😆👍
Glad you like them!
I had a Kia years ago when they weren't well known and it was a nice car but...the fuel consumption was appalling. I swapped it for a BMW 520 because that did more mpg and proved cheaper to insure and run.
I have a Kia Borrego, great reliable SUV, for much cheaper than a 4Runner or Landcruiser.
I have a 2006 diesel Sorento 165500 miles on the clock. And it’s bloody brilliant.
Theyre great cars for the money
I need to buy like this car I like it so much
send to Yemen 😊
I had a silver V6 petrol for a year. I had to buy a relay for some reason, I can't remember why, I feel it was discharging overnight. But it was cheap enough. Anyway it was reliable, nice enough to drive round town, but hopeless up north on windy roads, up and down hill. Not enough torque. Buy one cheap and push it into the docks when it breaks ;)
Many thanks another very good review.
Quite interested in going for a Kia as my next car.
Sorrento bit big for me , but the current model Sportage is a fantastic looking car.
In fact all the Kia's range are handsome cars.
Really appreciate if you took the Sportage for a run 😉
It's a very smart example. Good job! Being a Kia it should be relatively reliable, too. Great review of a REAL vehicle.
Thanks
I would refer to the 1st gen Sorento as a poor man's Mercedes ML because of the styling. I like that these were sold in like every corner of the globe.
Hi matt great video again really enjoyed this one even though it wasn't from the JLR stable very informative hope you are well best wishes Ian.
Cheers Ian, take care
@@HighPeakAutos cheers matt best wishes
Whomever added the rear camera should've connected it to that Kenwood touch-screen stereo that we see in the dash. I've done that with every vehicle I've added a camera to.
Great review as usual . unbiased personal knowledge is a refreshing change to the corporate bol...x . Thanks again.
Thanks for watching
I watched the whole video wondering why it had that hideous ssangyong grill on it before you mentioned!
Yes its gross. I've since replaced it with a genuine 2nd hand one from eBay for £20
@@HighPeakAutos that would make the car really respectable. Seems a great buy for a grand. Keep up the great videos!
it's actually a american spec front grill that someone has fitted, these cars were very popular in america.
The 3.5 is as rare as hens teeth. I had a 2.5 Diesel XS for twelve years. There are issues with the fuel tank paint dissolving and blocking fuel filters,rust on the axle brackets, rust on sills. Otherwise I loved mine and only got rid as the clutch was getting iffy. The diesels can do up to 32mpg. The facelift version goes up a co2 tax bracket, but is faster and rides better. I did 150,000 miles in my 04 model. It can tow 3500kg in manual..which is massive and towed my small yacht as if it wasn't there. It's one of the best cars of its type and its just a shame they are all so old as I'd have another. The rear axle damping is not well designed and the ride gets badly caught out over bumps.
I was going to buy one 2.5 td until I drove it ,nice to look at, leather seats look dull and boring, not bad . Drive it like you stole it and you will love it , should have made one in 3.0 crd.
Had one for 10 years. Gunk in diesel tank causes cut out. Open tank and a golf ball size of black liner rolling about.
Turbo went and ecu in last year. Got fed up with it and found it hard to sell.