Moog's Sub 37: The GREATEST MONOSYNTH.......ever?

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  • Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2024

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  • @stuartmccallum91
    @stuartmccallum91 2 года назад +80

    I bought one of these used a couple years ago that had the wonky jumping filter pot! I emailed Moog and they sent me an entire replacement circuit board to drop in for the cost of shipping! ($20) No warranty, second owner, no questions asked they shipped it out to me.

    • @oddomadic
      @oddomadic 2 года назад +5

      Wow you got the royal treatment. I had to pay $500 for a defective headphone jack which ended up being a circuit board as well.

  • @blipblip88
    @blipblip88 10 месяцев назад +3

    After about 25 or more years of not buying any music gear whatsoever, I had happened to walk into a music store, wandered the synth section and came across this beauty. I was smitten! It was switched on, and I played a few notes, twiddled a few knobs, and was absolutely in LOVE the sound, looks, and feel. It switched me on to loving making fun music again!

  • @TheDjpredator
    @TheDjpredator 2 года назад +7

    Love my Subsequent 37, the looks, the layout, and most important the sound! Such a phatt synth

  • @NicStage
    @NicStage 2 года назад +10

    Definitely one of the most enjoyable and useful monosynths I've ever used. Everything that you would ever want access to is on the front panel, to the point where it doesn't at all feel like digitally controlled analog unit. After many years of owning it, I'm still surprised at what what I can get from it. The routing capabilities are endless. If I had the money, I would buy another one just in case something ever happens to my current one. lol.
    Two features I like that you didn't mention (I don't think): The aftertouch (It feels nice) and the ability to edit patches from the computer via USB connection. They have a nice software tool for that.

  • @xntricity6446
    @xntricity6446 Год назад +10

    Its a synth that will excite you and never fails to disappoint. The best mono synth on the market.

  • @ClifBratcher
    @ClifBratcher 2 года назад +16

    The Subsequent 37 is the only Moog I've been interested in. I've used/repaired a wide range of their products and they just don't do it for me. Don't get me wrong, Moog does what they do very well. It just isn't what I want.
    Was finally planning on picking up a Subsequent 37 in 2020, but Sequential decided to debut the Pro 3.. I got the Pro 3 and do not regret it.

    • @ToyKeeper
      @ToyKeeper 2 года назад +4

      Same-ish. I also got a Pro 3, and basically haven''t touched my other synths since. I don't even have GAS any more. It's the kind of synth a person can grow old with, and still never run out of new things to try.

    • @Iceleben
      @Iceleben 2 года назад +5

      Same here - for me the PRO 3 is the greatest Mono Synth. Sold the SUB 37 never looked back

    • @nagchumpalot
      @nagchumpalot 2 года назад +3

      Yep! Pro 3 is ridiculous good.. and the SE edition is build quality is amazing.

    • @bettenhoffllc6083
      @bettenhoffllc6083 2 года назад

      @@nagchumpalot yalll are so stupid lmao as if this synth could compare to a Moog. Ask any pro legend. Mike Dean for example. Ashamed of you fucks.

  • @proxibomb4913
    @proxibomb4913 2 года назад +7

    every band i've seen live that uses synths has this on-stage and all over their bts pics. this is truly the best monosynth of all time!!

  • @LouisSerieusement
    @LouisSerieusement 2 года назад +6

    2:32 oh yeah I do this for each gig, I let the synthesizers warm up for 30minutes every time xD
    One time I played in an old champagne cave in france and the humidity made my poly synth sing like a police sirene lol

  • @KattKirsch
    @KattKirsch 2 года назад +5

    Great video, Noir! Every time I see you touch that synth during hangout jams it seems like such a different vibe than, say, the SV1. It's that feeling of switching from consummate keyboardist to sound investigator that I think Moog and its ilk really encourage. We should have a monosynth jam day this week or next to celebrate!

  • @SquarepulseMusic
    @SquarepulseMusic 2 года назад +3

    Always amazing reviews and videos man! Happy to see these coming out again.

  • @jc3drums916
    @jc3drums916 2 года назад +7

    Of the affordable alternatives, I think the Novation Bass Station II is more like the Sub37 (or Sub25) than the Korg and Arturia synths.
    I love the Sub37, although I don't have one. Someday though. On paper, I thought I'd prefer the Pro 2 due to its richer feature set, but when I actually played them, I preferred the sound of the Sub37. Or at the very least, Moog synths seem to have the most/widest sweet spots to my ears.

  • @leyetnin1
    @leyetnin1 2 года назад +2

    Excellent video! Fell in Love with it’s character and ease of use. No wasted space on the control surface, easy to tweak in the dark.

  • @henrikfisch
    @henrikfisch 2 года назад +12

    Well ... regarding "The best mono-synth ever build" ... I would say it's the "Pro2" from Dave Smith Instruments/Sequential.
    Why?
    Because I own one. 😀
    All the best! 😃

    • @aquaticborealis4877
      @aquaticborealis4877 2 года назад +2

      Yeah I was eyeing the Pro3. Gets rave reviews. I bought a Take 5 instead though. Also a great synth.

    • @ToyKeeper
      @ToyKeeper 2 года назад

      Yeah... if I had to say what the best monosynth is, it'd probably be the Pro 2 or Pro 3. They do pretty much everything one could ever want from a monosynth, and they're ridiculously easy to use. Moog's Sub(sequent) 37 is nice, but it only does a small fraction as much.

    • @aquaticborealis4877
      @aquaticborealis4877 2 года назад +1

      @@mikel5163 I really like it. Has a beautiful tone. Great keybed, good modulations. Connectivity options are limited and sequencer is a bit simple. Quality and workflow is very good.

  • @suitandtieguy
    @suitandtieguy 2 года назад +24

    When I got it, I stopped using my Minimoog and eventually sold it. I tried replacing it with the One and then the Matriarch (originally named Big Momma, they should have kept that) but went back to the Sub37. It's just so damn playable and sounds great.
    In the Subsequent release they scattered my presets to the wind and removed my initials from my favorite lead sound, but in the original Subsequent set they are most of Bank 8.
    I am seeing Amos tonight and will show him your kind words. Thank you. Also, don't be a stranger! Come to Knobcon!

    • @DaveBessell
      @DaveBessell 2 года назад

      You sold your minimoog! Sub37 is great but sounds quite a bit different to the mini.

    • @suitandtieguy
      @suitandtieguy 2 года назад

      @@DaveBessell i thought I was going to be buying a new Minimoog but the Moog Music Inc discontinued them.

    • @DaveBessell
      @DaveBessell 2 года назад

      @@suitandtieguy I have the new one, I honestly think its better than the originals. Better in the sense that it has separate LFO, velocity sensitive keyboard (which makes a huge difference) and a few patch points on the back.

    • @laylahassomethingtosay
      @laylahassomethingtosay 2 года назад

      @suitandtieguy What has your experience with the Moog One been like?

    • @rdean150
      @rdean150 2 года назад

      I'm also curious to hear your thoughts on the One.
      I consider the Subsequent my desert island monosynth, it's damn near perfect for an analog mono (although I do wish it utilized the screen to show a) the exact clock bpm and b) the currently rotating knob's value relative to the actual value of the parameter.)
      But something about it is just inherently musical, like fat, saturated velvet flowing from my fingers to the speakers.
      Every time I have played a One, on the other hand, I have struggled to coax actual music out of it. It's not a casual instrument. I'm sure it is capable of amazing things, but 30 minute sessions in Guitar Center are not gonna be enough to get most people up to speed with it. If Subsequent is a Maserati, the One is a Boeing 787.

  • @MilesAwayOfficial
    @MilesAwayOfficial 2 года назад +2

    It's still an absolute classic :D great video bro

  • @VocalChainsStudio
    @VocalChainsStudio 2 года назад +5

    It’s got a lot of depth, a sweet sequencer, interesting EGs with jammable looping functions. It’s probably way too much production depth for the average player but a dream synth for the right person.

  • @davidhardy5670
    @davidhardy5670 2 года назад +1

    My first Moog synth was a a Sub 37. I loved the sound that it produced and used it for years i eventually sold it to get my hands on a MiniMoog but if i get the chance to snag another one i would in a heartbeat, Great Video.

  • @RoomAtTheTopStudio
    @RoomAtTheTopStudio 2 года назад +4

    Still got my Tribute Edition. Still love it. Goes with my Korg Prologue like Abbot and Costello. What a combination. It's the combination that I use with my MPC sequencing both synths and this makes up the start of my workflow in most cases. I'm fortunate to have the KARP Odyssey as well but the original Sub37 is my go to mono synth 8 out of 10 times

  • @rip-off749
    @rip-off749 2 года назад +10

    One of the best things about this instrument is the plugin that comes with it. You can integrate the hardware exactly like a software synth into your DAW session. Would be cool if other manufacturers had that too.

    • @GuitarsAndSynths
      @GuitarsAndSynths Год назад +1

      plus it is free well other companies like Virus have a plugin and Oberheim had another software company develop a plugin for the new OB-X8 but it is not a free plugin!

    • @SOGNAMETAL
      @SOGNAMETAL Год назад

      screw daw, dawless forever

    • @levraichris3321
      @levraichris3321 Год назад

      The polybrute is pretty great in that regard

    • @janriepshoff5237
      @janriepshoff5237 Год назад

      Looks like an interesting toy that Polybrute thingy.... *DAMN* @@levraichris3321

  • @jonathanosborn4800
    @jonathanosborn4800 2 года назад +1

    People will all have their own opinions of course! I’d argue the Voyager is the best Moog mono, but that the PRO3 is the best mono synth, and the PRO2 is the coolest not-poly synth, though not actually as good of a mono synth as the pro3, overall. The Voyager has the touch pad pplus wheels, the pro3 has the touch strip plus wheels, the pro2 has TWO strips plus wheels, but they are position AND pressure sensitive! Voyager has 3 oscillators and two filters, pro 3 has 3 filters, the pro2 has the super flexible dual-filter section. Yes, the 37 has a huge sweet spot, lots of knobs, stable, great modulation. But the pro3 is pretty much sweet spot, WAYYYY more modulation, tons of knobs.

  • @xdrabbit
    @xdrabbit 2 года назад +1

    I love my Subsequent 37! Good job on your channel!

  • @petea
    @petea 2 года назад

    I recently went to a live show (yay) of Bonobo in Portland. He had one of these small Moogs (not sure which one) and it was awesome over the sound system. He would sit there on a key, tweaking and flooding the house in massive shirt-rattling bass. It made me want one, and a massive PA system. Great video!

  • @jansonrawlings8169
    @jansonrawlings8169 2 года назад +2

    Love the video. After having both I still prefer the little phatty. That’s in a studio setting though, so I totally get the tuning stability issues of playing live you pointed out. Just sonically a phatty guy. Really wish it had the paraphony and sequencer of the sub though

  • @BigBadWolf..............
    @BigBadWolf.............. 2 года назад +2

    At the beginning of the pandemic I sold my op-1, sub 37, and tons of other equipment. I did it because I was worried about my business. My business did fine fortunately and last year I bought another the op-1 and a moog sub 25. I truly appreciated and enjoyed the sub 37 and had a hard time bonding with the 25. I finally am starting to bond with it but I do miss the 37. It’s a beast

    • @amundbisgaard7295
      @amundbisgaard7295 2 года назад +1

      I heard the two are actually a bit different, despite them having similar names. The subsequent 25 is supposedly based on the sub phatty, while the Subsequent 37 is based on the Sub 37.

    • @TheUnknownBass
      @TheUnknownBass 2 года назад +1

      @@amundbisgaard7295 Yeah, you can immediately see this from the front panels. The Sub 25 and the Sub Phatty have the same controls/front panel.

    • @amundbisgaard7295
      @amundbisgaard7295 2 года назад +1

      @@TheUnknownBass Neat...

  • @catastrophicjones
    @catastrophicjones 2 года назад +2

    I had the opportunity to buy some synths in 2020 because of the job I worked at the time. Pulled in a lot of hours, and was looking for something 'different' that I could buy. The subsequent 37 was one of my picks and it is amazing and beautifully designed. I wish I could play it more but I'm in search of a new place and have no room to let it out so currently it's in a box just waiting to be played. Hopefully I'll fix that by next month or so.

  • @ricardovieiramusic
    @ricardovieiramusic 2 года назад +2

    I have a small studio and about 10 synths, and the Sub 37 is the most expensive one I own. But man, was it worth de money! It's by far my fav.

  • @rezazarasvand9631
    @rezazarasvand9631 2 года назад +2

    i love my sub 37.. i do alot of gigs and this beautiful synth does it all with no problem of tuning or.... Moog sub 37 is a very very very good synth !

  • @GuitarsAndSynths
    @GuitarsAndSynths Год назад +2

    This was my first hardware synth that I bought years ago after wanting to go DAWless and still have and love it! I would like to replace it with a Minimoog but 5k versus 1k to get less features not worth the cost.

  • @SEFFOfficial
    @SEFFOfficial 2 года назад +2

    Mega vid man, love my Subsequent37!!!!

  • @williamtell1477
    @williamtell1477 2 года назад

    Dude I love your channel SO much. Thank you for every one of your productions!

  • @ModularLanding
    @ModularLanding 2 года назад +5

    Great video. Like the Moog One, the only bad thing that can be said about the Sub37 is the sound. Personally I’ve gotten a lot of mileage out of mine and I love it. I do prefer the raw sound of the Matriarch and Mother 32, especially when I want something more vintage.

    • @JamesCorbettMusic5000
      @JamesCorbettMusic5000 2 года назад +2

      I agree, pushing past 12 o’clock on the oscillators is so fat on the matriarch.. the Sub37 has its own sound. Very different

  • @solomonjenkins9505
    @solomonjenkins9505 2 года назад +1

    moog will ship you a replacement board for free. I've never done any synth work or anything before but it's a fairly easy swap. Very, very worth it, no idea how you contend with the filter issue, must not be as bad on yours as it was on mine. So amazing once replaced dude, highly recommend going for that board replacement

  • @sunsp.t
    @sunsp.t 2 года назад

    Yes. I have used this on an Atmospheric Folk album as a pedal steel-type sound, by rolling off the filter and playing high up with some plumey white noise thrown in. I have also used it as a dramatic 3-octave bass. I've done 3-hour rock bass gigs on it, creating "electric" and "acoustic" bass patches. The multiple drive options are huge for "old school" and "fake guitar" stuff. The only problem is it likes to show off in a mix, and often you have to significantly eq out some frequencies to make it sit inside of a track instead of in front of a track.

  • @fattyboombatty7736
    @fattyboombatty7736 2 года назад +3

    Sound is everything - but,..... I do think after the blue UDO Super 6, the 37 is one of the nicest looking synths.

  • @qlyde
    @qlyde 2 года назад +1

    Great video Noir! Two synths I bought this year were the Subsequent 37 & Prophet-6. Legendary pair, all the vibe I could ask for, I'm in love with them both, but my old CZ-1 still has my favourite synth title 😅 The noisy stereo chorus, old 12bit DAC, 8 stage envelopes for *everything* and PD synthesis make the most unique and character rich synth I've played. Programming is a must but it sounds brilliant. I really wish there was a modern version of the CZ though, because modern synths are so much better to work with.
    Still need to figure out the Subsequent 37 plugin but I'm happy to use it hands-on anyways!

  • @nickhatcher4519
    @nickhatcher4519 2 года назад +1

    My experience with the Sub37 is only positive. Never owned but played with a closed friend’s unit. Pure joy. A bit confusing at first but became so playable. I think it might’ve been the best mono synth… UNTIL the Grandmother came in and took that title(imho) lol. Great video as always!

  • @RodrickLodowica
    @RodrickLodowica 2 года назад

    Thnx for this! I am pretty new in the world of Synths more specifically Synth Bass. I've been using a borrowed sub37. Can't wait to get one of my own!!

  • @VIRALBEATS360
    @VIRALBEATS360 2 года назад

    Love it! Moog is a great company, and their packaging is always fun. Thank you for allowing me to live vicariously through your joy, until I get one of my own to play with.

  • @Psychlist1972
    @Psychlist1972 2 года назад +1

    I love my original Sub 37. I never did get the filter pot replaced.

  • @Pintosonic
    @Pintosonic 2 года назад +2

    I think the best sounding Moog now is the Matriarch but being semi modular and having no presets makes it less suitable for live use. I just wish Moog would make a synth that uses the same oscillators and filters as the Matriarch but has presets and a modulation matrix.

  • @RaniOsnat
    @RaniOsnat 2 года назад

    Obviously I haven’t tried every mono synth out there, but having both a Subsequent 37 and a Slim phatty I would definitely put the 37 up there… for 4 reasons:
    1. The sound - it’s absolutely fat, organic, and unique. At first it was hard for me to get “gentle” tones out of it, but I learned it’s all in the gain staging (whereas in other synths VCA/DCA levels would typically be set high, here it starts overdriving past the middle point… it’s in the manual actually). That said, if you want gentle, airy tones get a Roland (I have those too).
    2. It absolutely begs to be tweaked (but still has patch memory so you can save your sounds). The accessibility of parameters is great., I create new sounds on it all the time
    3. It’s MUSICAL! The little tweaks you can make to envelope triggering, or assigning parameters to the mod wheel and other controls, makes it really great for expressive phrasing and funky bass lines.
    4. Built like a brick - I don’t think I’ve seen a synth so well built since the original DX7,

  • @anglosaxonking
    @anglosaxonking 2 года назад

    I soooooo agree. I own mine manufactured 2/16 (I bought it new) and have loved it ever since.

  • @sketchdashaman
    @sketchdashaman 3 месяца назад

    prob the only Moog, I will buy. only because playing with it at NAMM 2018 for only 5 min!!! so smooth, round & full......ahh...yes.

  • @theleastsignificantbit4794
    @theleastsignificantbit4794 4 месяца назад

    I agree with you. I own the Matriarch (sold it), a Prologue 16, a Pro 3, and various Dreadbox synths. The Subsequent 37 will never leave my side.
    Internet opinion is that the Pro 3 is a better synth, but I play the Subsequent more often. The Sub sounds awesome without effects, and it’s one huge sweet-spot.
    Great video!

  • @danpreston564
    @danpreston564 2 года назад

    The Sub37 blew my mind when I got it. I’d never owned anything with the modulation options that it has. These days, I find it a bit less impressive, having it sat next to a peak with 4 LFOs, but I still love the work flow (the push button twist knob to assign LFO is so well implemented) and the way it feels to use. I’m sad that the keys are all yellow and the pitch and mod wheels feel like using glue because the rubbery plastic has broken down, and that the headphone output crackles and pops like a bowl of Rice Crispies.

  • @FuzzyDereck
    @FuzzyDereck 2 года назад +1

    Great video!! I think the Sub37 is fantastic, but a Subsequent25 would be enough for my needs. (I still have a red Little Phatty that I want to, equally, hang onto & sell, lol. 😭)

  • @Death_By_Media
    @Death_By_Media 2 года назад +4

    I’ve thought about one over the years, but I’ve owned a few Moogs and flipped them all because ultimately each had some limitation or flaw I couldn’t get past . The Slim sounded pretty damn good , but tuning warm up was 35 to 45 mins . Bought the Minitaur like 3 times really liked its sound and each time they did updates it got better , but ultimately it wasn’t stealing time from my MS20 or BSII so I got rid of it and got a sub25 , but it just didn’t gel with the other synths in my set up . Moog is an awesome company and are great at what they do , but evidently the buttery warm sound of analog isn’t my bag as my favorites are the MS20 , Polivolks, Wasp , OSCar , etc . I like the weird noisy and harsher side of analog ....well except for Oberheim , but that’s another story .

  • @chuckshartz2722
    @chuckshartz2722 2 года назад

    I never knew that analog synthesizer's tuning behaves just like a guitar's tuning when exposed to vasprious climates. That's crazy. I know the tune knobs are present, but didn't realize they served that function.
    And this is the kind of demonstration and review I would expect to see all the time.... informative, to the points, and HONEST... keyword - honest. This is geard towards being informative, and not som much as a sales promotion.

  • @ZenWorld
    @ZenWorld 2 года назад +3

    Damm it don't make the prices go UP!!!

  • @HardyNahtal
    @HardyNahtal 2 года назад +2

    C'mon.....you are forgetting Sequential Pro 2 or Pro 3!!! Thanks for the video 🤙🏾

  • @JorbLovesGear
    @JorbLovesGear 2 года назад +1

    Everything about the sub 37 is great, EXCEPT the modulation busses.
    I hate that I couldn't use them without giving up one of the LFO's, and while having multiple sources on a single bus can surprise with cool sounds, a lot of the time I only want one source to one destination, so essentially just 2 modulation rows. Pretty limiting in comparison these days.
    Bothered me enough that I sold it! But still, I think about buying another like twice a month lmao
    Good stuff, the consistently inconsistent king 😅🙏

  • @JamesCorbettMusic5000
    @JamesCorbettMusic5000 2 года назад

    I’ve never warmed to my Sub37, I use it now and again, but fell in love with my OB6 and matriarch more.
    Maybe I need to spend more time with it

  • @fiddlestickzmuzik
    @fiddlestickzmuzik 2 года назад

    Certainly my fav, took me ages to buy one after trying all sorts of others including Pro 3 etc.. but now I have one it's staying forever.

  • @blackmateriaofficial2383
    @blackmateriaofficial2383 2 года назад

    i remember Amos demonstrating some amazing sounds smiling and doing what i can only describe as the 'superman-clark kent' move, pushing his glasses back. I was instantly sold :)

    • @blackmateriaofficial2383
      @blackmateriaofficial2383 2 года назад

      nothing has that smudge like the Sub37. The Karp smokes it when it comes to deep bass, though.

  • @SacSynths_Jack_Z
    @SacSynths_Jack_Z 2 года назад

    The day after you posted this, my sweetwater rep called me to let me know they had gotten a batch of "imperfect" Sub 37s and 25s in from Moog... $330 off! I couldn't ignore that message from the synth gods! Really enjoyed the video, keep up the great work!

  • @The_Bit_Player
    @The_Bit_Player 2 года назад

    The Sub 37 Tribute Edition will always be the GOAT. I can't make a song without it . And I don't want to.

  • @ktreier
    @ktreier 2 года назад

    Subsequent is the first hardware synth I bought in 2017 after selling my ARP Odyssey back in 1982. I will only sell it if I end up a pauper.

  • @lashtal
    @lashtal 2 года назад

    Great vid bro. The Behringer Odyssey (not the Korg version) has a sequencer, can be obtained for approx. 400 on used markets. It's a great start for a monosynth owner, and if patient with it, the user can learn a lot of transferrable info about synthesis- which can be brought to any other synth thereafter. No patch saving on this one, but this is why it can challenge a person, to figure out how to recreate a beloved sound from scratch. On the other hand, I would really just recommend getting any cheap 100 dollar midi-controller keyboard and learning to play piano via free VST... see if one actually takes to piano before dropping 1000 or more on some keys. Then again, there are a lot of folks like me who aren't world class pianists, but we can still get some great sounds out of synths and rounding out our guitar music, by following a simple chord chart.

  • @Iccapod
    @Iccapod 2 года назад

    Love mine. I have an early one too but I switched the filter board and the yellow keyboard and it's fresh as.

  • @jettsom
    @jettsom 2 года назад +1

    I have the Subsequent 37 and Pro 3, I love both equally.

  • @joco179
    @joco179 2 года назад +1

    Good video! I'd love to hear your perspective on the matriarch. I got to play one for about 10 minutes at knobcon and I haven't stopped thinking about it since

  • @lukeautosymbol2668
    @lukeautosymbol2668 2 года назад +3

    This is either best or the worst-timed video for me right now as I'm moving toward selling my Sub 37.
    On one hand, this is great because it should reinvigorate some interest on the market for the Sub 37 (videos like these are more influential than people think) making it a little easier to sell. On the other though, this video could make me want to keep it.
    Decisions, decisions...

    • @JamesCorbettMusic5000
      @JamesCorbettMusic5000 2 года назад

      I pretended to myself that I was going to sell my Sub37 to fund a matriarch, bought one then kept the Sub37 as I couldn’t let it go 😅

  • @fritsvanzanten3573
    @fritsvanzanten3573 2 года назад +1

    0:45 OMG, I always thought the SUB part of the name meant they were for only meant for BASS lines (because of SUB oscillators). So I never paid any attention to them.

  • @midnightsocean2689
    @midnightsocean2689 2 года назад +1

    Bout 5 years ago I owned a slim phatty. One of the best designed analog “mono” synths I’ve used and I heavily regretted selling it.

    • @pigknickers2975
      @pigknickers2975 2 года назад

      LOL, just sold mine. Lets hope the Subsequent37 fills it's place.

    • @midnightsocean2689
      @midnightsocean2689 2 года назад

      @@pigknickers2975 I'm sure it will be fine.

  • @matfix1258
    @matfix1258 2 года назад +2

    In the mid to late 90s, when I was talking to Robert Moog about the new synth he was making (came to be the Voyager) I told him it would be nice or a blessing if it could have more than one voice, or if you could add voice cards, I guess now with this and a few others, my ideas or suggestions have come to fruition. 😋 I wanted it to be a minimoog (I had one in the 90s) with memory and more filters, plus something extra. Maybe next they will add something new and exciting also.

  • @marillion335
    @marillion335 2 месяца назад

    My only gripe with mine (Subsequent 37) is the rubber coating on the mod and pitch bend wheels. They have gone sticky like a lot of rubber products do even though Ive never cleaned it with anything that would cause it go sticky. I managed to fix the issue using black butyl rubber tape (Self amalgamting tape) that when pulled tight over the wheel sticks really well. Not the best solution but at least they arent sticky anymore which was very distracting. Ive heard others have had this issue too.

  • @marcpinion
    @marcpinion Год назад

    I have had my sub 37 Tribute for several years and have never even looked at the presets. As you said I have a synth (well several to make my own sounds.

  • @MySkinnydip
    @MySkinnydip 2 года назад

    First time I heard your music was on a gorilla troop post. I love it!

  • @raistaparta
    @raistaparta 2 года назад +7

    If we're talking alternatives to the Sub 37, I think the Sequential Pro3 would be my first pick.

    • @Iceleben
      @Iceleben 2 года назад +6

      I had both and I prefer the PRO3, sold the SUB37. I think the PRO 3 is the best Mono Synth out there, so much possibilities, it’s mind blowing and still easy to use. Sound can be earthshaking.

    • @masonarcher2998
      @masonarcher2998 2 года назад +3

      @@Iceleben I’m in total agreement with you. The two synths I own are the Pro 3 and the Hydrasynth and both feel more like sculpting tools that you can take a sound in your head, and within a (relatively) short amount of time, have something pretty close. The Pro 3 is just so easy to use and get complex stuff with quickly, not to mention the sound is gorgeous. The Pro 3 was the first instrument I’ve personally owned, where after playing it for the first time, I thought, “so this is what it’s like to own a premium instrument”. Having said that, I also think Arturia has made some amazing instruments with the Matrixbrute and the Polybrute. I was also able to play a Moog Grandmother and was of course impressed. The build quality wasn’t particularly impressive but it nevertheless sounded great. Not Pro 3 great, but I’d happily use a Grandmother without feeling a massive gap in quality.

    • @judethree4405
      @judethree4405 11 месяцев назад +1

      I own both, and though if I had to pick one, I’d probably go with the pro 3, I still would highly miss the subsequent. It just has a rich buttery duo mode that I never get sick of, especially with some reverb added.

  • @wolfpackpresets
    @wolfpackpresets 2 года назад

    After many years of use, Sub37 will still creatively surprise you ...
    I own many great monosynths - Grandmother, Korg MS20 (vintage), model D, Odyssey, Future retro XS and and yet I use Sub37 the most.

  • @TheGreatPanicker
    @TheGreatPanicker 2 года назад +2

    How would one think this is not the greatest synth of all time!!!

  • @TheDungeonDive
    @TheDungeonDive 2 года назад +1

    Great video. My vote for best ever mono is DSI Pro 2.

    • @jonathanosborn4800
      @jonathanosborn4800 2 года назад

      Pro3 is a better stand-alone mono, PRO2 is a more overall complete tool, between processing external audio, paraphonic use, and overall sound-shaping

    • @nagchumpalot
      @nagchumpalot 2 года назад

      Then try a Pro 3 SE edition worth the extra money for SE edition for incredible build, Like a modern Minimoog.

  • @suitandtieguy
    @suitandtieguy 2 года назад +1

    Another great lead synth that's _kind_ of fungible to the Sub37 is the IK Uno Synth Pro. It is not as friendly to edit but it's half the price and sounds great but different because of the filters.

    • @CatmanJimbo
      @CatmanJimbo 2 года назад +1

      I got one recently, almost singlehandedly on the strength of Matt Johnson (of Jamiroquai)'s demo and it really kicks ass! I opted for the keyboard version so can only speak to that iteration of it but it's built like an absolute tank too, which I wasn't expecting.

    • @suitandtieguy
      @suitandtieguy 2 года назад +1

      @@CatmanJimbo i love it. I'm trying to get some features implemented so I can use it instead of the Sub37. My live rig had to fit in a Suburban and every bit counts.

  • @PeanutButterAM
    @PeanutButterAM 2 года назад

    I have a Sub37 CV.
    The rebuilt amp path with increased headroom giving more range from clean to reaaaalll dirty is nice.
    Best out.
    Now to find a way to get a One. Hahaha.

  • @TheCALMInstitute
    @TheCALMInstitute 2 года назад

    The Little Phatty was the first synth I ever bought, around 2007? I loved it to death, and I still love it. But at one point some years after buying it, I fell victim to GAS and started to want more complexity than it could offer. So I bought a Sub37. To my ears it did sound a lot less "organic and imprecise" than my LP. But the design of it, especially after their big firmware update, was exceptional. The only real beef with it that I had was that the gain staging at the mixer was so aggressive - it seemed to start distorting very early in a knob turn. I still have my LP, and I really love its simple sounds, and the way I can have every single feature and option in my head all at once. I don't even have to use presets, it's like the fender telecaster of synths.

    • @liselottefrejdig1112
      @liselottefrejdig1112 2 года назад +1

      My first "synth" was the Casio VL-1. Some years later, it became the Yamaha DX-100. Now it's Moog Sub 37 and I'm happy!!

  • @matthijsblomjous3671
    @matthijsblomjous3671 2 года назад

    I bought a sub25 a few months ago. I'm definitely happy with it, but I kinda wish I had waited for a sub37 to come back into stock... This video confirms that once more.

    • @Maxat_Ospanov
      @Maxat_Ospanov 2 года назад +1

      Some say that the sub 25 has a "warmer" bass sound than the 37.

  • @donaldpriola1807
    @donaldpriola1807 2 года назад

    I still have my Slim Phatty, and yeah, it takes at least 15 minutes to tune. Still, beautiful unit. I do love my Grandmother Dark; great synth. If I had unlimited funds, and space, I'd pick up a Sub37 in two seconds.

  • @Musialproductions
    @Musialproductions 2 года назад +2

    Amazing video! I couldn’t exactly afford a Sub 37 but I took the plunge 2 months ago and bought a Sub 25 on sale and absolutely love it! While it has less features and I certainly would like the extra octave of keys, the Sub 25 still sounds like the Sub 37 and I use it every day in my beats

  • @DKH712
    @DKH712 2 года назад +6

    Idk about best. I had the pro3 and switched to sub37, but I switched back. The modulation on the pro 3 is so much easier. The sound difference between both is a matter of taste (I prefer pro3 for the more jagged/harsh sound). Imo, the capabilities of the pro3 put it above the sub37

    • @swingdash
      @swingdash 2 года назад

      I just sold the pro 3 to get a dfam and a sub 25. The pro 3’s sequencer midi settings are very frustrating. It never worked how i wanted it to. Have you ever found this? Feel like ive been spoiled by elektron sequencers and P locks. Which is why i am using the sub 25 as a voice module modulated by a digitakt’s midi tracks and CC modulation. Sorted.

    • @DKH712
      @DKH712 2 года назад +1

      @@swingdash oh yes absolutely. I completely bypass the pro 3 sequencer and sequence it from a digitakt.

    • @swingdash
      @swingdash 2 года назад

      @@DKH712 yeah interesting you found the same. If dave smith took a leaf out of elektrons book for sequencer they’d have a winning formula. Infact that would be an amazing collab!

  • @thomaspipermusic
    @thomaspipermusic 2 года назад

    Facts I Love Mine it's my fave synth too I love Moog I have a matriarch too and it rock also

  • @jasonphilbrook4332
    @jasonphilbrook4332 2 года назад

    Beautifully made video!

  • @creatingspacesproducer
    @creatingspacesproducer 11 месяцев назад

    You're a man of great taste :) It's my fav too :D

  • @ingolf7411
    @ingolf7411 2 года назад

    3 Moog with keyboards (Subsequent 37, Grandmother, Matriarch). As for me the Subsequent 37 is a fantastic instrument. I think, not comparable with the Grandmother and the Matriarch. It sounds impressive paired with a user interface that makes fun to turn the knobs. Great synth (and maybe a GOAT instrument).

    • @T-Hawkeyes
      @T-Hawkeyes 2 года назад

      Like, its that much better than the Grandmother?

    • @ingolf7411
      @ingolf7411 2 года назад

      @@T-Hawkeyes The Grandmother sounds great and offers some patch points. If doing sound design the Grandmother is more difficult. The Sub lets you store your design efforts and is therefore more predictable (the sound you've stored can be recalled). Regarding the sound the Sub, my very personal opinion, offers more variations as parameters for osc1 and osc2 can be modified independent (and the sub for osc1 is really massive).
      As for me I use the GM more for arps and "clear" Moog sounds. Whereas the Sub is used for (very) deep and ambient sounds. As mentioned earlier both synths are hard to compare ... to use both offers best fun (for my kind of use).

  • @SuperStarO
    @SuperStarO 2 года назад

    Love the content man

  • @SynthAddict
    @SynthAddict 2 года назад

    nice one, finally had a chance to watch this :-)

  • @McN4styFilth
    @McN4styFilth 2 года назад +2

    Moog has made so many classics I don't think it's even the best mono from their lineup. I think even sequential's Pro series have it beat especially the Pro 2. Very interesting choice.

  • @MKA63
    @MKA63 17 дней назад +1

    Definitely a great synth but I would stick to my PRO 3 as my goto for a mono synth parts..

  • @TheUnperson
    @TheUnperson 2 года назад +3

    I had this synth for some time and really did not get on with it. I found it to be uninspiring for my musical tastes. It undeniably sounds fantastic, but I think I prefer synths that are a bit weirder :D

  • @traitortotheliving
    @traitortotheliving 2 года назад

    Great video man!

  • @alexmata196
    @alexmata196 2 года назад

    I had a sub phatty and korg arp odyssey and it was very clear the better synth was the moog. I absolutely loved that synth. Needed cash and had to sell them both. Was sad for a couple of years. Now I have the Sub 37 and Korg Prologue. Everything happens for a reason.

  • @funnzie
    @funnzie 29 дней назад

    I've been playing keys for 57 years now, somehow, I have never seen or played a Moog in real life. Thousands of YT vids, but have never experienced one. I passed up a new Sub25 when they were going out of production for $450, I am still kicking myself today for that mistake. The Moog oscillators have always sounded musical to my ear/brain, not electronic but an acoustic instrument, if you know what I mean :). It is difficult for me, in my orchestration synth hardware studio, to justify a $2000 monosynth. I have the MicroBrute and Minilogue, but not impressed with these so far. (4 voice with unison option is my preferred "mono" synth).

  • @jamesdiazcomposer
    @jamesdiazcomposer 2 года назад +1

    The grandmother is def a good rival. Of course, the grandmother doesn't have paraphonic capabilities but still killing bass and leads are possible, plus it offers patching.

  • @MichaelDowComposer
    @MichaelDowComposer 2 года назад

    It's gotta be the Dave smith Evolver keyboard no? :D Great video as always!

    • @NoirEtBlancVie
      @NoirEtBlancVie  2 года назад +1

      The Mono Evolver is SOOOOO special, great pick! I miss mine.

    • @MichaelDowComposer
      @MichaelDowComposer 2 года назад +1

      @@NoirEtBlancVie I remember your videos on it! Was a great 1 minute review. I have considered selling mine.... but i won't now. I have sold too many synths that i regretted. Some i didn't mind selling at all (korg monologue mainly, offered me absolutely nothing) But the 303 606 combo was painful and still is... Supernova 2.. ouch. Too many regrets!

  • @nieuweabnormaal5869
    @nieuweabnormaal5869 2 года назад

    I would buy the subsequent. I have the moog sub 37 but very soon there were problems with the headphone socket. No sound was heard through the headphone. And also no sound i heard through the output. Only when i put the volume of the headphone controller high i could hear sound through the speakers of my setup, but no sound through the headphone. Many moor sub37 have this. They solved it by making the subsequent.

  • @andreasoberg2021
    @andreasoberg2021 8 месяцев назад

    I recently moved into the synth area only using piano and VST before. I did find that I just did not use the VST that much. But after I bought a Quantum MK2 I use it every day. I'm looking at expanding into more analog synth. I consider Moog One (but costly and seem and loud fan etc), OB X8 (sounds great) and something like Subsequent 37. Struggle between picking. I like the Subsequent 37 because it is a lot cheaper and the sound is great. Any thoughts are welcome :)

    • @andreasoberg2021
      @andreasoberg2021 7 месяцев назад

      Ordered the One, will see about Subsequent 37. It sounds great.

  • @dandare301
    @dandare301 Год назад

    Great review - thx

  • @__3028
    @__3028 2 года назад

    you really need to try vintage moog. its on another level to the new stuff, and I like the new stuff!

  • @pepuletrz
    @pepuletrz 2 года назад

    its my second desert synth after the MS-20

  • @MajorOSC
    @MajorOSC 2 года назад

    You'd have a blast with the Modal 001 of like ladder filters. Great ladder filter on that one. plus you can run stereo leads (voices panned). You'll need to run it to a mixer if you play it duophonically which allows you to center the L/R channels, (voice cards hard panned to one side each). So mostly for leads and bass it's best running stereo, essentially giving you 4 oscillators (+ sub) in glorious stereo, all running through Modal's rendition of the moog ladder filter. It's epic. Coincidentally, like you with the L, I traded my 001 at a guitar center years back lol. Great memories though. Here's the 001 I had. ruclips.net/video/PKYaeGqlVBQ/видео.html

  • @michelvondenhoff9673
    @michelvondenhoff9673 2 года назад

    A classic, my fav.