Korra: 10 Reasons Why She's Terrible

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  • Ah, Korra... If you like Korra as a show and as a character, that's awesome. I myself like plenty of terrible things. Just not this one.
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  • @wherethetatosat
    @wherethetatosat 2 года назад +291

    I see what they were going with in Korra. She had to be distinctively different from Aang. Problem is, they went so far for polar opposites, they forgot to make her likeable.

    • @Tyler_W
      @Tyler_W 2 года назад +30

      I would be completely fine with all of it if, through her trials and tribulations, she actually had to own her flaws and mistakes and cultivate virtues to overcome them and the obstacles she faced. She kinda sorta does in season 4, but that just helped her overcome one of her many character defects.

    • @Emarella
      @Emarella 2 года назад +9

      @@Tyler_W Completely agree. I was actually EXCITED seeing Korra's introduction because I thought it was the start to what would be a great transformative character arc.
      Imagine my surprise.

    • @jessshnarcky1089
      @jessshnarcky1089 Год назад +13

      My main problem with Korra was that she never learned to listen. Her learning to listen slowly would helped to a greater growth arc.

    • @NotOrdinaryInGames
      @NotOrdinaryInGames Год назад +5

      Everything changed, when fans from Tumblr attacked, and tricked Bryke into thinking they can do no wrong. Because when people criticize you, they are just mean trolls, and hate your enlightened ass.

  • @kurosan0079
    @kurosan0079 Год назад +86

    So Korra is basically your typical "toxic male" stereotype, but as a girl. Wow, so empowering...

    • @ryanmoore6259
      @ryanmoore6259 3 месяца назад +1

      That's the thing; she really isn't that toxic. She's brash and rude at points but she does show a lot of selflessness and compassion. There is a tendency to justify confidence or jerkish behavior in men, but women who display it are bad. Hell if Toph and Katara came out today the people who slam Korra would slam THEM.

    • @brysendedios9038
      @brysendedios9038 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@ryanmoore6259 no if came out today the writers would get rid of kataras femininity and make her more masculine and bully her brother all the time.

    • @brysendedios9038
      @brysendedios9038 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@ryanmoore6259 no not true. If came out today. The writers would get rid of kataras femininity be more masculine i bet. I bet this is what korra is.

    • @TeddyBearX329
      @TeddyBearX329 29 дней назад

      Tbh she's more like the toxic tomboy that we all see now in media

  • @abbyh.593
    @abbyh.593 3 года назад +440

    There have been many powerful female character in movies and animation in the recent years. But so many of them fall flat for me. Toph was a powerful female character. So is Ripley from the Alien series. People are confusing arrogance for strength of character. I've never met an extremely arrogant person (man or woman) who was an inherently good person or leader.

    • @PilgrimsPass
      @PilgrimsPass  3 года назад +77

      Katara is basically my favorite character of the show. And the one I would like to have a conversation with the most. As much as I like Iroh, I don't know much about tea.

    • @abbyh.593
      @abbyh.593 3 года назад +47

      @@PilgrimsPass I love katara! She is a great example of a strong girl, and she is nurturing and caring. So I always felt more of a kinship with her. You should do a video on good female role models in cinema! Katara and Eowyn are good examples.

    • @PilgrimsPass
      @PilgrimsPass  3 года назад +37

      @@abbyh.593 Alright, that's a good idea. I made a video on the Sister of Battle though, they're good examples of strong women as well.

    • @adamnesico
      @adamnesico 3 года назад +3

      Ripley in the first movie was written as a male, they just changed her sex.

    • @marshmallowvampire8503
      @marshmallowvampire8503 2 года назад +14

      Exactly. Arrogance is not the same as courage and self belief, I don't even think they go hand in hand. Obviously she doesn't need to be Aang or Katara, but gosh, less mean please.

  • @Don-ds3dy
    @Don-ds3dy 3 года назад +328

    Femenist * rails on about toxic masculinity *
    Also femenist * creates a female character with all the flaws of a toxic male character *

    • @kirakira1212
      @kirakira1212 3 года назад +35

      Ikr? The very characteristics that they keep on calling out men for, are the same characteristics they give to their empowered female characters

    • @marshmallowvampire8503
      @marshmallowvampire8503 2 года назад +10

      Exactly!!!
      They aren't equipped to determine what toxic masculinity is, bc #1 they hav unrealistic standard for what non toxic manhood is, viewing everything from abuse to holding a door open as sexist, then when a man is emotional they think he's a wimp or gay. Which in my opinion is a brand of homophia, gays can be manly but not to these peopl.
      #2 When a girl shows toxic man traits like aggression she is strong, or when a girl is a tomboy she is lezbian (just search Princess Merida's sexuality or love life and you'll see what I mean). Or when a girl has vulnerability like Black Widow being disappointed about not being a mom (in her eyes a ticket out of being a killer) or Belle's kindness to the Beast is seen as weakness.
      The reason these stupid contradictions exist is bc they don't know wtf they are talking about. They hav double standards bc they are just lazy, lack imagination, and understand humanity that little.

    • @marshmallowvampire8503
      @marshmallowvampire8503 2 года назад +11

      I also don't like Su Yin. She isn't a mary su and sure she isn't that bad by the time she meets Korra she's okay, but the fact that she thinks so highly of her lifestyle and pretends to be sensible while giving low blows to her sister she presumably cares about. And I think she was supposed to appear like the enlightened, 'no one can control me', freedom encouraging good guy who isn't annoying like Lin, or something. Sad. I thought Korra with her attitude didn't need encouragement to be even more... like her.
      Also I don't like it that Genora went from a sweet heart to a know it all in season 3. Idk why it only took Kai talking shit for her to demand the rank of master.🙄🙄

    • @Tyler_W
      @Tyler_W 2 года назад +7

      So basically a feminist is e like Korra, a moral vortex...

    • @johnnybaldwin6161
      @johnnybaldwin6161 2 года назад +3

      Ummmm, Avatar wasn’t made by feminists....

  • @anormalguy511
    @anormalguy511 3 года назад +417

    Toph is real female empowerment

    • @andrewpellman6605
      @andrewpellman6605 2 года назад +20

      Facts.

    • @vaarkobke3102
      @vaarkobke3102 2 года назад +62

      Katara is real female empowerment

    • @marshmallowvampire8503
      @marshmallowvampire8503 2 года назад +58

      Yes. Katara and Toph are the best versions of woman empowerment bc they aren't just warriors they are also kind and hav negative and positive emotions, they are dependent in healthy ways being supportive of and supported by their team all at once, they have vulnerabilities and strength. It's so awesome

    • @hayleybartek8643
      @hayleybartek8643 2 года назад +50

      Don't mind me. I'm just throwing Suki in here. You know, the only girl who was actually raised to be a warrior.

    • @toledochristianmatthew9919
      @toledochristianmatthew9919 2 года назад +16

      @@hayleybartek8643 Yes. Though I wished she got more development. Her relationship with Sokka and how she changed him to becoming more humble as a character is so wholesome.

  • @VictorianTimeTraveler
    @VictorianTimeTraveler 3 года назад +257

    The best part of the show is when she looses her bending. It could have been a great opportunity for her to learn humility but no; the writers squandered it.

    • @cbalan777
      @cbalan777 3 года назад +14

      I hear this a lot. That she needed to be "taught a lesson". Korra is brash but nowhere near as bad as people make her out to be.

    • @VictorianTimeTraveler
      @VictorianTimeTraveler 3 года назад +13

      @@cbalan777 let me be clear, I don't dislike Korra and I definitely do not think less of you for liking it.

    • @hayleybartek8643
      @hayleybartek8643 2 года назад +26

      When she loses her bending in Season 1 or after she get lead poisoning in Season 3? Because both were opportunities to gain humility. The first one certainly wasn't, and the second one had her just focusing on herself. No offense to real people who have problems and need to withdraw from the world to work on themselves, but Korra neglected her responsibilities and the only person she reached out to was Asami (for seemingly selfish reasons).

    • @cbalan777
      @cbalan777 2 года назад +3

      @@hayleybartek8643 Yeah, no one can explain why she needed "humility". I think people were just expecting her to be Aang 2.0 or something and be this goofy kid.

    • @hayleybartek8643
      @hayleybartek8643 2 года назад +29

      @@cbalan777 "No one can explain why she needed 'humility.'" Lots of people can and have. If your main character can't achieve humility, then the audience will enjoy watching them get smacked down and will root for their enemies.

  • @povilzem
    @povilzem 2 года назад +95

    That's what happens when you try to create a good protagonist, but you've forgotten what a good person looks like.

  • @rob2540
    @rob2540 2 года назад +55

    korra could have been a great antagonist

    • @noahalcantar2431
      @noahalcantar2431 8 месяцев назад

      @rob2540 imagine Korra being a villain in Dragonball

  • @spourchoable
    @spourchoable 2 года назад +44

    Trains 10 years with masters to become an average kickboxing styled sports fighter.

  • @yoursexualizedgrandparents6929
    @yoursexualizedgrandparents6929 2 года назад +34

    Korra fans: YOU JUST DON'T LIKE STRONG WOMAN!
    Toph fans: ???

  • @arthuryu8298
    @arthuryu8298 2 года назад +80

    My personal definition of a mary sue is a character where the world bends to accommodate them. Maybe it's as you said, to vindicate them even if they're wrong. But it also includes being defeated in the most graceful way possible. As if defeats are scripted in such a way that basically gives them an excuse to lose. "Oh they were ambushed.", "Oh, there were hostages." stuff like that. A lot of problems with Korra stem from this idea that the rules just don't apply to her. Neither the world nor do other characters exist with their own trials, tribulations, wants, and/or needs that are separate from hers, everything just seems to bend to make her look good despite the timeline of events clearly showing quite the opposite. That's why she's a mary sue.

    • @archmage1015
      @archmage1015 Год назад +4

      Exactly. If the story and/or the world try to paint them as always being right, or only being wrong in minor areas, odds are they're a Mary Sue.

    • @gab1172
      @gab1172 8 месяцев назад

      I ain’t reading all that

  • @sunsetsky9885
    @sunsetsky9885 2 года назад +99

    There is nothing more infuriating that an awful, rude, nasty character who is disrespectful to everyone she meets and only does good things for selfish reason and then the show expects us to want her to win, to pretend that she’s in the right. She acts like season one Zuko without any of the moments that show you she could be a good person as well as growing up in a very stable loving home.

    • @mebeb6399
      @mebeb6399 2 года назад

      where is this energy for male characters that are awful, rude, nasty character who is disrespectful to everyone ?
      these male characters are common in anime but where is the hate

    • @theproplady
      @theproplady Год назад +14

      @@mebeb6399 Male characters like that are usually portrayed as villains or random assholes. But some writers got it into their heads that women are automatic victims and the only way to compensate for that is to make them aggressive, but also righteously justified in everything they do.

    • @totallyjerd1751
      @totallyjerd1751 Год назад +5

      @@mebeb6399 Male characters like that get hated on as well. Quit framing it like its a gender issue; Korra is just a badly written character

    • @noahalcantar2431
      @noahalcantar2431 5 месяцев назад

      @@mebeb6399 what about my boi Godzilla since he's a jerkass Anti-Hero just like those male anime protagonists?

  • @devildolphin2102
    @devildolphin2102 2 года назад +26

    Why Korra Makes No sense.
    She dosent follow the Avatar cycle.
    Aang was a Airbender but was VERY good at water bending because it is the next in the cycle and his hardest element is Earth due to It being the Opposite of Air and his personality.
    (His pacifism was the reason he struggled with Firebending but he was very good at it)
    Korra. Is good at all 3 elements. Only has trouble with Airbending, but even with her Nature and personality being different She should still be able to airbend even Aang could Earthbend a slight bit. Also Korra Overly uses Firebending and Acts like a Firebender yet Earthbending should be her most powerful Secondary Element.
    Yeah Korra was a Firebender retconned into a Waterbender.

  • @Davidofthelost
    @Davidofthelost 2 года назад +101

    The moment I started hating Korra was the moment she bursted through the wall as a toddler and said ‘I’M THE AVATAR, YOU GOTTA DEAL WITH IT!” Then started throwing around Earth, Water, and Fire like nothing. Making the majority of ATLA meaningless as why didn’t Aang just start throwing them around like her and just beat down the Fire Lord ?
    I get that it would’ve felt repetitive to go through them all over again. But you could also have different lessons based on ones personality to become more connected to the elements. Then Korra could’ve started out as a FIRE BENDER first instead of a Water bender, giving a larger time skip and allow more Air benders to be around and help with the jump of Cultures and technology from ATLA to Korra.

  • @synthchad7667
    @synthchad7667 3 года назад +99

    I really like the comparison between Toph and Korra, never thought of it that way before. (Sassiness being ‘earned’)

  • @mmyr8ado.360
    @mmyr8ado.360 2 года назад +15

    I forgot she opened the Spirit Portals, even made one in Republic City. It would be a shame if a malicious spirit like Koh would use it.

  • @michaelortiz1561
    @michaelortiz1561 3 года назад +143

    If your character takes 4 season to become slightly bare able then you have made a bad character

    • @yourfriendlyneighbourhoodl6206
      @yourfriendlyneighbourhoodl6206 2 года назад +3

      Not necessarily

    • @RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
      @RoronoaZoro-ur6hr 2 года назад +7

      @@yourfriendlyneighbourhoodl6206 , Zoro from One Piece is the second most beloved character next to Luffy in the very beginning of East Blue Saga to now in the current Wano Arc; Light Yagami was beloved and adored to this very day in the very beginning of Death Note; Lelouch from Code Geass is beloved and adored to this very day in his very first introduction in the series like Light Yagami and Zoro from One Piece, and I can list off countless examples on how if it’s take more than 4 seasons to make your character a compelling character than you failed as a writer.

    • @hueyfreeman6262
      @hueyfreeman6262 Год назад

      ​@@yourfriendlyneighbourhoodl6206 yes.

    • @barch118
      @barch118 3 месяца назад +1

      Except she never becomes a good character

  • @hayleybartek8643
    @hayleybartek8643 2 года назад +104

    The literal last thing Korda does in her series is abandon the world to go “have a field trip” with Asami in the Spirit World. Seriously, she doesn’t tell anybody where she is going. The moment you see her holding hands with Asami and you’re supposed to be thinking about her finally achieving happiness for herself, and she can’t even leave a note about where she’s going or for how long. I don’t care how gay and in love she is, great for her! She abandons people.

    • @Pangora2
      @Pangora2 Год назад +22

      And when the world needed the Avatar the most, she went on vacation.

    • @rakantopinibl5736
      @rakantopinibl5736 9 месяцев назад +7

      Worst even!
      Put yourself in her parents' shoes! She was depressed, even suicidal she comes back to save the day.
      Then disappears...again...
      Can't she stay and reassure her parents and you know, shows them love?!
      Da fvk!

    • @queenberuthiel5469
      @queenberuthiel5469 9 месяцев назад +5

      @@rakantopinibl5736
      You know what's weird? The fact that even though Korra have her parents in this show, the only real time we see them shown as a family is in Season 2. Korra's behavior is questionable to me because they didn't show us how her parents brought her up. What I get is Korra having parents is just nothing because the ones she really needed the most are non-blood-related mentors (Tenzin, Lin, SuYin, Toph). I was like: why bother give her complete set of parents if they're barely used in the story anyway. I know that they wanted to show her being independent but it's still frustrating how they underutilize the story of an avatar with a normal family.

  • @tobyyasutake9094
    @tobyyasutake9094 2 года назад +17

    My big problem with her was that she was boring. She is very one note, and I cared more for basically everyone else (even Mako) when they were in screen.

  • @mirandabaggins501
    @mirandabaggins501 2 года назад +29

    Okay… After watching this and the video about Frodo I am convinced he’d be a far superior successor to Aang! There would obviously be a challenge about fusing the two completely different worlds… but I’m thinking about drawing him as a Water Tribe Avatar…! 💙🌊💧💦🍃💚

  • @raymaida2405
    @raymaida2405 2 года назад +18

    Are we really ignoring what she did to my boy Bo lin

  • @petite2276
    @petite2276 10 месяцев назад +8

    I keep seeing this but I know that Korra is the avatar and can master all 4 elements. But she doesn't act like a water bender. We know that waterbenders have a culture of strong family connections and they always are adaptable and can think on their feet and turn their opponent's weaknesses or strengths against them. Look at how Hamna created blood bending, Sokka coming up with the idea of destroying the drill from the inside, and Katara using her sweat to break out of that wooden prison. All waterbenders except Korra thinks like that. I mean her go to element to use is fire or earth. If you look at Aang, he's the avatar but he always always used air even when he wasn't fighting. That shows that the elements are embedded in their respective cultures and it affects benders and nonbenders alike. But with Korra they completely lost the plot.

  • @azazelgrigori9244
    @azazelgrigori9244 2 года назад +14

    Few thoughts.
    1. I think media went down hill after 2010. Korra being an early-ish example.
    2. I think media was pretty good in the 90s and 2000s. Any time I need an example of real social justice, like female empowerment characters, I turn to something within those 20 years. There’s also some bad examples, but even those were to an extent enjoyable or at least harmless.

  • @shadowreaverrising1753
    @shadowreaverrising1753 2 года назад +24

    I was in love with the design. She could have really been something.

    • @Pin_ro
      @Pin_ro 2 месяца назад

      Korra is a good character but with a terrible personality but as far as I know she end up being a better character at the end.

  • @ghstrdio
    @ghstrdio 3 года назад +18

    Thank you. So many things I thought were wrong are right here in this video. Her intro -personality wise,-would have been fine but have her more subdued as a teen. She could have had a Frozen moment where she hurt someone she loved and was shuttered out from bending her first element(water probably). But nah, it's lame.

  • @emanueltorres894
    @emanueltorres894 3 года назад +91

    I always found stupid the argument that if you're a man and you don't like these female characters is because you're a masagonist. We are all free to like or dislike a character, especially when the flaws of said character remain unredemed.

    • @cbalan777
      @cbalan777 3 года назад +2

      To be fair a lot of the criticisms are nitpicky, which is what makes people think it's misogyny.

    • @emanueltorres894
      @emanueltorres894 3 года назад +17

      @@cbalan777 I can't understand how the opinion of the majority can be considered nitpiking. Especially when that opinion come with some constructive criticims.

    • @cbalan777
      @cbalan777 3 года назад +1

      @@emanueltorres894 A majority doesn't make an opinion the truth.

    • @emanueltorres894
      @emanueltorres894 3 года назад +17

      @@cbalan777 Let me clarified my point then, when two or three individual say this character is bad, it's an opinion; but when it's more than a hundred saying it, a writer should wonder if there is weight to those 'opinions'.

    • @Tyler_W
      @Tyler_W 2 года назад +12

      @@cbalan777 the logic of your first reply doesn't track unless someone's nitpicking is exclusive to female characters, which it isn't, or if these nitpicks have directly to do with her being a woman, which it doesn't and rarely does. Nine times out of ten, crying misogyny is little more than a defective excuse for simply having an unlikable character.

  • @KoOkiEzRoCkz
    @KoOkiEzRoCkz 2 года назад +34

    The whole Equalists plot point was so wasted tbh. Why bother introducing a plot about the problems of inequality, if it was to be completely ignored in the end? Korra doesn't do anything to help the issue in the city. And was even brash and aggressive to non-benders who understandably felt stepped on. Amon is defeated and thats about it.

  • @28starwarsfan
    @28starwarsfan 2 года назад +9

    She has toxic masculine traits. Being a strong female character doesn't mean having toxic male typical traits.

  • @seanemery1917
    @seanemery1917 Год назад +8

    She magically turned bisexual without buildup, you forgot that

  • @olympusgolemoflight7198
    @olympusgolemoflight7198 2 года назад +15

    Tey say this is about female empowerment, but where was Suki?

  • @kirakira1212
    @kirakira1212 3 года назад +31

    Did you rewatch the whole thing just to make this video? Cuz good for you
    I couldn't bring myself to rewatch the series but can easily rewatch ATLA with no problem 😂

    • @PilgrimsPass
      @PilgrimsPass  3 года назад +17

      nah, I pulled it from memory. I can't count how many times I've rewatched ATLA though.

    • @kirakira1212
      @kirakira1212 3 года назад +2

      @@PilgrimsPass it must have left quite an impression on you seeing how well you could still remember 😂 I for one couldn't even remember anything other than their names 😂

  • @Hannah-kk7wp
    @Hannah-kk7wp 2 года назад +8

    Why isn’t anyone talking about the ain’t nobody got time for that impression?? That was a 1000/10 throwback.

  • @croissaintlovertrure1526
    @croissaintlovertrure1526 Год назад +6

    don't know why people think that "powerful female character" means "arrogant female character". a woman can be barely strong without being rude. Katara and Yue are my favorite characters in the whole series because they are what I miss in the modern series: strong, powerful, redoubtable women, and they are still sweet, motherly and kind to those around them, and this makes a part of their strenght. as a girl who doesn't want to be an asshole, I miss girls in the modern series that shows that femininity CAN and IS strong enough, even without arrogance and rudeness. :(

  • @AHK4680
    @AHK4680 2 года назад +19

    Point on Bryan and Michaels involvement with ATLA, although they were the creators, Aaron Ehasz was the head writer of ATLA and was not involved in Korra. And that was the difference between absolute quality (ATLA) and a really bad show (Korra).

  • @demainor
    @demainor 3 года назад +15

    Been watching a lot of your videos and l love your brain. Would be awesome to just sit back and chat about life, your mental skewness is very interesting

    • @PilgrimsPass
      @PilgrimsPass  3 года назад +9

      Thank you very much my friend. Its been a pleasure to read your comments as well.

  • @csongorarpad4670
    @csongorarpad4670 2 года назад +8

    What a gem of a channel you have! Will recommend it to my pals who surely will find the same enjoyment as I, in watching them

  • @matthewboyd8689
    @matthewboyd8689 2 года назад +7

    She reminds me of Zukos character arch, but painfully slow.

  • @kohinattosru8587
    @kohinattosru8587 Год назад +4

    I actually liked the beginning. Korra always dreamed about being the avatar so it's natural that she played with elements as soon as she discovered her abilities. 10 year training maybe was necessary but in a different way. Cocky, powerfull, self absorbed kid have to guard our safety - we're doomed if she stays this way. At her first visit in town she destroys... 3 shops and a road? I don't remember. And she's surprised that nobody thanks her for saving from thieves when repair bill will be high and maybe they will have to close for some time. It was great opportunity to see that she can't just do everything. People now don't need powerfull godlike avatar, coz they can take care of themselves. It would be way better for me if Amon stayed alive even at the very end, Korra didn't get back her powers before spirit world opening, maybe at all or even lose airbending aswell and become greatest avatar even without powers

  • @limitbreakplusultra7551
    @limitbreakplusultra7551 2 года назад +18

    I loved Kora in season one but by season two she was making the same mistakes and hardly facing the consequences for them.
    She would've been so much better if we learned that she put up all the bluster as a defense because she's the avatar so she has to be the best and strongest and know what the answer is all the time (especially after Aang, the greatest Avatar of all time. How was she supposed to live up to that?!). Imagine a breakdown scene after a big loss where she admitted she didn't know what to do and she was scared. After that she could show more vulnerability or get called out by her friends when she was obviously putting up a farse.

    • @melisagarayramos592
      @melisagarayramos592 2 года назад

      what a mistake to go with unalaq to improve spirit domain and airbending thing tenzin couldn't help you

  • @adrian_veidt
    @adrian_veidt 3 месяца назад +1

    They had a very interesting thing going on with season 1. Why waste a villain in Amon like that? The moment his disguise got exposed, it doesn't automatically mean the cause he's fighting for is wrong.

  • @stephenrice2063
    @stephenrice2063 Год назад +4

    The problem I have with Korra is that she looks a lot like Katara but is all of Katara's negatives (plus several new ones) without any of the positives. Of course, even Katara wasn't always Katara: she had her rough spots. But her overall arc was fairly clear from the beginning, and I wanted her to succeed. So Korra was basically using Katara's credit card where I was concerned.

  • @Phantom_Zone
    @Phantom_Zone Год назад +2

    Do you know what happened after the invention of nuclear weapons?
    People got afraid of armageddon.
    After Anng defeated Ozai and the world entered an era of peace, Korra would be treated as a live nuclear weapon.
    Because she would be the most powerful bender in the fucking world.
    But we never felt that threat from her like we did from Anng when he went to Avatar mode.
    It would be far more fitting if she was a mascot, doing shows and shits like a celebrity. Only using her bending for shows and stuff.
    It could be a story about her finding her own motive and a story about a world that doesn't want the protection of Avatar anymore.

  • @28starwarsfan
    @28starwarsfan 2 года назад +14

    Flaws are great, never learning from them and having the story make everyone else tell the character they are right is a huge problem--you're right.

  • @ABtheButterfly
    @ABtheButterfly 2 года назад +4

    I don't think she was "master" at elements as a toddler she just knew how to do them a little she still needed to be trained to control them and use them in battle and stuff

  • @helltaker6865
    @helltaker6865 2 года назад +4

    The worst mic making the best korra essay

  • @gabriellevalentine2057
    @gabriellevalentine2057 2 года назад +13

    When she was bending the elements as a toddler, she was showing the basics. She still needed time to master them. Even Aang didn't master all the elements by the end of the show. He just learned enough to help end the war.

    • @PilgrimsPass
      @PilgrimsPass  2 года назад +12

      thats a good argument

    • @MangaBear
      @MangaBear 2 года назад +17

      She had all 3 elements gain without explanations( expect water maybe ). In past avatar years they have to understand the characteristics, art, and richness of the elements by going to it's source. Aang had gone through the process of it's properties rather then a power tool(same with past avatars). It's just unrealistic that a toddler had a quick understanding how to use fire ( opposite of her culture) , earth ( no where to be seen in the environment ) water( perhaps since it's inherently around her culture but looking back it's odd that she's a toddler who suddenly obtained it but parents aren't shown to inherited.) I can see why ppl called her Mary sue since she was brought up as "chosen archetype" with demonstration of basic material arts with elements as a toddler without any training before lotus shown up to confirm she was the avatar. I don't hate Korra but it really feels she doesn't fit as an avatar imo

  • @ROMANTIKILLER2
    @ROMANTIKILLER2 Год назад +6

    Something I find puzzling about a lot of modern media is how their interpretation of "strong female character" is to give to a woman all the traits that makes an entitled alpha-male unbearable and call it empowerment. It's like all positive feminine traits must be removed and have a gender-bent testosteronic 80s action hero for a female character to be seen as "strong"... which I call bs.
    And in the Avatar universe, that's why Katara is a great character while Korra comes off as so unlikeable.

  • @OntheOtherHandVideos
    @OntheOtherHandVideos 2 года назад +4

    I agree, and consider me a new subscriber! Your videos are excellent.

  • @marshmallowvampire8503
    @marshmallowvampire8503 2 года назад +7

    It was a bad introduction. Not even a minute into her story she has mastery over 3 of 4 elements. If they wanted her to be a prodigy why wasn't she just a great water bender and produces fire early in her life. THEN she can be good at everything but air.

  • @marshmallowvampire8503
    @marshmallowvampire8503 2 года назад +3

    11:55 This is the same petty shit the writers were doing with Star Wars. We went through the entire Avatar series (in the case of star wars the original and even the prequel trilogy) without complaining about strong women, THEN now that they hav shitty characters written badly and with terrible attitudes for obvious reasons, they want to hide behind gender, for no reason other than their own stupid, narcissistic, disconnected from reality, Caladonia bubble ideology that is stupid to the rest of the country bc these specific people are unequipt to understand normal. Bit they would rather blame us then wake up and see that, no Twitter is not reality, it's an echo chamber of stupidity.

  • @Cheezycats
    @Cheezycats 2 года назад +7

    this guy is hilarious and right

  • @e.w.thomas2425
    @e.w.thomas2425 2 года назад +6

    Only thing i liked was the villains

  • @Alfenium
    @Alfenium 9 месяцев назад +3

    You and E;R are kings

  • @ellugerdelacruz2555
    @ellugerdelacruz2555 2 года назад

    Not bad for the first ever video of your channel. LOVE IT!🤗❤👍

  • @Mariusweeddeath
    @Mariusweeddeath 2 года назад +3

    I'm going to say, I liked Korra's introduction. Its not as lore breaking as this video says but I can understand why people hate it.
    While I get that it looks like she's mastered the elements at the age of 4, it isn't shown she's mastered them but can just access and use them, which is different from just mastering them. The second part of the intro does show her mastering them which I get is annoying since half of the fun of the first show was watching Aang learning the elements but I liked the idea was going for which was to basically to push Korra as an almost purely physical Avatar versus Aang's more balanced nature of being someone who can fight when required but can just as easily sit everyone down for a good talk when important. It was a more important thing for the first season if it had been written a bit better since the idea of the Equalists is that they do have a point but can't see the same reason they used to when every bender they encounter is basically either a cop or a crook. The Avatar, just being another one of the cops put them in a more defensive position, which isn't helped by her own actions. The first season (I think) was trying for something like early on but then just sort of fumbled it in the end, even if I think the ideas were set up. The intro was supposed to set this sort of dynamic up but the writers were either tired or just didn't really care to much and only expected to get the one season.
    Also, I thought the reason the spirit portal was closed by Wan was because he couldn't resolve the conflict between them and the humans? I get the disagreement with Korra just opening them because she's Korra but I thought the ideas was so that they could reconnect to each other again and try work out their differences?

  • @Nuero_idk
    @Nuero_idk 2 года назад +12

    "The sassy strong independent woman... who usually tends to be the perfect embodiment of toxic masculinity, but Nobody notices it through her Double X chromosomes"
    heard/read that from somewhere . . .
    I couldn't find Korra likeable. I consider myself a strong female and the character the writers created for Korra reminded me of those arrogant jerks from grade school.
    Watched until the first third of book 4 while it aired----I didn't watch ATLA until this summer btw.

    • @XJYNCT
      @XJYNCT 2 года назад +1

      From the Aragon video.

    • @youjustgotburned3980
      @youjustgotburned3980 2 года назад +4

      And if we wanna talk about feminism we can mention Azula and Toph. Those women were really independent and strong
      Korra is just a child in a woman's body. She's just so childish it's gross and unbecoming for a woman of her age and power

  • @issybella66
    @issybella66 Год назад +1

    I get that Korra is meant to the opposite of Aang and the Bryke didn't want the next Avatar to be a copy of Aang and they wanted to do something new but they failed they made her like Zuko in season one of Avatar but without any character development or likability and they didn't make her a three dimensional character like he was or make the audience like her like they did with him and they gave her a terrible personality that's a combination of the worst traits of both Katara and Zuko

  • @Pangora2
    @Pangora2 Год назад +2

    Korra and Toph are both jerks, but people in the setting realize Toph is the way she is and that's a problem. Korra gets a handwave like her being a jerk is a good thing. The setting for me broke when in Book 2 Korra goes up to the President guy, and demands he start a war because she demands it in public. And we're supposed to side with her over that. She's not really a character, she doesn't change. She is our point of view, and is super powerful and forgiven by all because this is required to enable our POV to travel around.

  • @chunkystains8950
    @chunkystains8950 2 года назад +2

    Ouch, this audio hurts. You should redo this video because it's an interesting topic but I also don't want a headache so.....later.

  • @DrDolan2000
    @DrDolan2000 2 года назад +8

    I'm getting distracted by the animation. For everything this show apparently does wrong, that's one thing it got right

  • @extropiantranshuman
    @extropiantranshuman Год назад +1

    I can agree with 7 though - but you have to really see characters from all angles though - not just nice at everything - which was the issue with aang.

  • @patrickbuckley7259
    @patrickbuckley7259 Год назад +1

    One thing I hated was, we haven't really gotten to see a Water Nation Avatar in action. Sure we saw a Water Nation Avatar, but he was just a fuck up. It would have been nice to see an Avatar thru that lens, rather than another Earth Or Fire nation Avatar in a Water Nation skin. Beceause that's what Korra's personality is, she embodies all of the worst traits associated with Earth & FIre Benders with very few of their virtues.

  • @pigglypoof
    @pigglypoof Год назад

    I used to be a huge fan of the show but now looking back at it I didn’t rewatch it as much as I did ATLA.The characters in LoK were forgettable or not someone I really felt invested in as I did in ATLA
    Tenzin and his family were the exception I wish the show was focused on them

  • @matthewboyd8689
    @matthewboyd8689 2 года назад +6

    Well, at least she's realistic
    *Looks around at people I know*
    Yeah.. a bit to relatable (emotional, stubborn, and learns the hard way, and a bit too focused on doing things herself rather than accept help, but tries to do the right thing)

  • @BarioIDL
    @BarioIDL Год назад

    what if as a kid, she learnt water bending but only fire comes out because of her personality, and that's how they found her so quick

  • @MorgottofLeyendell
    @MorgottofLeyendell 5 месяцев назад

    I only liked her introduction because it was so cringe and funny, basically it was so bad it was hilarious.

  • @Verebazs
    @Verebazs Год назад +1

    2:05 Okay, sorry. but that's BS. Being able to use a bending discipline doesn't automatically make one a master of it. Ask Katara in the entire Book 1 of ATLA.
    Aang was shown being able to Fire bend in Season 1, but that didn't mean he mastered it. The training cycle is a guideline for the reasons Jeong Jeong explained, but that doesn't mean the Avatar can't use bending disciplines he hasn't mastered yet, at all.
    Similarly Korra being able to use Fire and Earth as a child doesn't mean she has already mastered them. You yourself said it: Korra is stubborn and hotheaded which (according to ATLA) are ideal traits (in terms of bending ability) for Earth and Fire benders respectively, so it's not at all far fetched for her to discover her ability to use both at a young age. She still had go through training to learn how to properly utilise them, which is why the 10-year timeskip ends on her Fire bending test. It's a clear statement that she went through the training cycle. So no, there's no retconing the retcon here.
    2:18 Yeah, no Aang got extremely lucky against Ozai. Ozai was utterly dominating their fight, until Aang's chakra got unblocked by a deus ex machina and he entered the Avatar state, that I might add, he had no controll over, up until the moment he refused to kill Ozai. The entire time until then, Aang was struggleng to keep up, so it was clear that his level of training was not nearly sufficient to take on a Master who spent decades training himself. So no, it absolutely makes sense that Korra despite discovering her abilities early would also need at least 10 years to master them. And BTW, his intructors -including even Katara- all agreed that she sucked at the spiritual aspects of bending, and the only reason they agreed to let her start training with Tenzin was that they believed he's the only one who can actually teach that to her.
    16:46 That really doesn't make sense. Korra is literally a different person from Aang, just like how Roku and Kyoshi were different people from Aang.
    Don't get me wrong, I have plenty of issues with this series, and with Korra herself, I even generally agree with your other points, but as a whole this video honestly feels like you were trying to ape Mike Stocklasa from R*tarded Lard Media, and his poorly researched, garbage-tier arguments about the Star Wars prequels, rather than giving a genuine criticism. Which propably was the goal, I just don't really understand why would anyone want to ape that idiot.

  • @grinningtiki220
    @grinningtiki220 2 года назад +2

    Only good thing about Korra.
    Rule 34.
    Dem watertribe gurlz.

  • @naturalinstinct4950
    @naturalinstinct4950 Год назад

    She kinda a caricature up until season 4

  • @firefireice5229
    @firefireice5229 2 года назад

    Do you like the dragon prince

  • @chidoman1595
    @chidoman1595 Год назад +1

    Why didn't the non benders just make guns

  • @Ann-cm1vx
    @Ann-cm1vx Год назад

    i love toph, she is my absolute favourite character. korra though ugh. i dropped avatar season 2 from the first episode because i couldn't stand korra

    • @Alfenium
      @Alfenium 9 месяцев назад

      Toph a cute

  • @anaclararodas4833
    @anaclararodas4833 2 года назад +13

    Well, I didn't get pass the first episodes of season 2, glad I didn't. Other issue I would point out with Korra, and it's really more of a personal view, was her lack of feminity. I don't mean she's like a tomboy, because tomboyish girls still have that girlish vibe which makes it cute, like Toph. Korra doesn't have that. Why make a character a woman when you could gender bend it and it would be the same character? It's just like the one in the new star wars trilogy, I even forgot her name already 🤣

    • @danielalaiz419
      @danielalaiz419 Год назад +1

      I don't know if you've watched arcane, but violet has a very masculine personality, but as time goes on, her feminine qualities start to appear as a soft voice, swayed hips , maternal side worried about her friends, kinda sexy debauchery, and a very seductive look. in korra i don't see any of that she is boring, childish personality, unfriendly, annoying, nosy

  • @sebastian.2.311
    @sebastian.2.311 2 года назад

    True

  • @WellWisdom.
    @WellWisdom. Год назад

    Thanks.

  • @chthulu27
    @chthulu27 11 месяцев назад +1

    I didn't think Korra was all that bad. I can understand the criticism and in all fairness, I was able to bunge watch the series, so I didn't have to sit in agony from one season to the next having to wait a whole year with my last memory being how much of a turd Korra was the entire time.

  • @fairboy5349
    @fairboy5349 2 года назад

    The most powerful bender in the world is always beaten soundly in her first fights. What at all makes her adequately qualified to save the people? I must say that duty of being the avatar was given to the wrong person

  • @source3nergy203
    @source3nergy203 7 месяцев назад

    Hmm

  • @Otto_Von_Beansmarck
    @Otto_Von_Beansmarck Год назад +2

    14:15 On the topic of mary sues I would say a mary sue can be defeated in a fight as long as their performance in the fight breaks reality/the rules set up in the story, if there was some earth kingdom farmer who can't bend and hasn't gone through any military training who fought the fire lord and had a close loss that character would be a mary sue. (Please note I am not calling Korra a mary sue as I haven't watched the show and thus can't pass any judgement)

  • @Ajax-wo3gt
    @Ajax-wo3gt 4 месяца назад

    One of the first “girl boss” characters. You can see how deep the cultural rot goes, but Korea is just the tip of the ice berg.

  • @unbreakable.3132
    @unbreakable.3132 Год назад

    Doesn't she look like an early version of VELMA???!

    • @noahalcantar2431
      @noahalcantar2431 8 месяцев назад

      @unbreakable.3132 maybe but the only difference is that she wears blue

  • @rakantopinibl5736
    @rakantopinibl5736 9 месяцев назад +1

    Her intro made me hated her from the get go.
    I still think Mako is a great character, not perfect but way more likeable than Korra

    • @queenberuthiel5469
      @queenberuthiel5469 9 месяцев назад +1

      I still think Mako is a huge wasted potential and treated like a joke, just like Bo lin. They reduced the brothers as the sidekicks to the Avatar. Honestly, Mako and Bolin have more interesting backstory than Korra and that's okay. Korra is the main character because she's the Avatar and she needs to learn humility and wisdom. Ok cool. So the only side characters who were treated as actual characters are not Korra's "friends" but her mentors: Tenzin and Lin Beifong.

    • @rakantopinibl5736
      @rakantopinibl5736 9 месяцев назад +1

      @queenberuthiel5469 so true! Their parents were from different culture and fell in love, it was the first time seeing a bender couple from different elements but nit let's focus on Korra for some reason

    • @queenberuthiel5469
      @queenberuthiel5469 9 месяцев назад

      @@rakantopinibl5736
      IKR? Even Mako's dead parents are way more interesting than that cursed love triangle-square they gave us. The episode in S3 where they went to Earth Kingdom and the brothers finally met their father's side of the family is such a tease. It's revealed that their relatives didn't even know that their parents were dead and just heard Mako and Bolin's names as pro-benders. Just sad. My head canon is that their parents came from opposite sides. Their father was poor and used to love with his huge family in the Earth Kingdom. Their mother have rich but strict parents in the Fire Nation who limits her freedom. The two of them left their families and fled to Republic City to start new lives then they met, married and had two boys.

  • @captainexcabier
    @captainexcabier 5 месяцев назад

    Dude, Korra fits every definition of a Sue. As you said yourself, she starts right off with everything just being handed to her. As a toddler she's already mastered 3 of the 4 elements, which is why the "training" she gets later is redundant and kind of pointless. The Sue is always the best at everything, and they are always right about everything. Another major aspect of a Sue is that everyone loves the Sue, and if they don't they're either wrong, or evil, or both, and yet even the bad guys have a respect for the Sue. And it doesn't matter that she gets beaten. The OG Mary Sue literally died, but everyone cried because they all loved her. And while people who like Korra will cry about my soggy knees, the Sue does not have to be a woman. The Sue can be a Marty rather than a Mary. Just look at Wesley Crusher, especially early on in TNG. Classic example.

  • @fatbastard51
    @fatbastard51 2 года назад

    what made korra worse is probably they took the simplistic view of solving conflicts in the writing, during the second season the north and south water tribe about one oppressing the other, which could've been a mature story telling point about the avatar solving conflicts that are culture/historic that lasts after the avatar is reincarnated. but no korra managed to solve all issues thanks to poor writing/black&white

  • @DishonorableMentions452
    @DishonorableMentions452 8 месяцев назад

    I love korra 😁

  • @TheEnigmaProductions
    @TheEnigmaProductions 2 года назад +2

    Literally the worst character

  • @Leonardovideogoes
    @Leonardovideogoes 7 месяцев назад

    Escritores de korra sendo preguiçoso

  • @unbreakable.3132
    @unbreakable.3132 Год назад

    The "legend" of Korra is everything wrong with Hollywood.

  • @noahalcantar2431
    @noahalcantar2431 7 месяцев назад +1

    People are still defending The Legend Of Korra no matter what even though the show itself sucked

  • @josiahstreetman8806
    @josiahstreetman8806 2 года назад +2

    I liked that show actually... for ever reason except our four main heroes

  • @trinityhauyne
    @trinityhauyne 2 года назад

    literally blocked

  • @Jjk58174
    @Jjk58174 6 месяцев назад

    She was the worst part of the show. Bullshit levels of talent, then she gets easily bested. She steals another woman's fiancee and then enters a BS relationship with her for progressive points. She also destroys the well crafted lore by making the Avatar state worthless. This story even ruined spirits. I would have rather had a show based on Kiyoshi or another past Avatar because every scene Korra was in was ruined by her bitchy lack of depth or character. The show would have been much better with a different Avatar, and without that awful intro you reminded me of. Strong characters can be great. Just give them believable flaws and don't make them the worst part of the show.

  • @xG_MANx
    @xG_MANx 2 года назад +3

    Yep, she shows all traits of a Mary Sue.🙄
    You know what she reminds me of…that character from that horrible Netflix version of He-Man show.

    • @allthingslexi6046
      @allthingslexi6046 2 года назад

      The thing is Adora was a better written character than Korra

    • @angrygarbanzo5436
      @angrygarbanzo5436 2 года назад +2

      @@allthingslexi6046 I think he's talking about Teela from the Kevin Smith reboot.

  • @eastbow6053
    @eastbow6053 Год назад

    8:18 this reminds me of illegal immigration 😅

  • @BargB
    @BargB Год назад +1

    One thing to explain why Korra isnt good.
    Power ranger-like mecha fight. Twice. Ok bye

  • @denisa.g.8930
    @denisa.g.8930 3 года назад +5

    Hahahahaha very good!

  • @1776huckleberry
    @1776huckleberry 9 месяцев назад +1

    I see your 10 reasons Korra is terrible and raise you 34 reasons why she's the best. 😂🎉

  • @bryanmcclure2220
    @bryanmcclure2220 3 года назад +10

    I do not despise Kora Yes she has her flaws But she grows and matures kora at the end of season 4 is completely different person then in the 1st episode.
    I do agree That the show doesn't really call her out on her mistakes very often.

    • @renemartinez3451
      @renemartinez3451 2 года назад +6

      Yeah, it takes her 4 seasons for her to mature into a tolerable person. If it takes 3 full seasons just to show basic human compassion, then she is not a good character. Maybe it would be fine if she was a villain; Zuko was a villain so it made sense for him to take a while to become a truly good person. But Korra is the main character and she barely suffers any real consequences for her actions.
      In seasons 1 & 2, she’s nothing short of a bully. She forces herself onto Mako, casually trying to seduce him into cheating while he’s in a serious relationship. And when they finally are together in Book 2, she storms into his office, publicly accuses him of not being supportive of her, flips over his desk, embarrasses him in front of his co-workers, and then has the gall to be shocked when Mako breaks up with her because he doesn’t want to put up with her anymore. Can you imagine if the genders were reversed? Even by the standards of a brash, hot headed hero, Korra is downright despicable. And seasons 1 & 2 never displayed them as “flaws.” They were quirks that were used to create comedy and surface level tension/ drama that ran in the background of the larger story.
      Granted, seasons 3 & 4 improved her character development IMMENSELY. They decided to give her much bigger consequences for her actions, such as having to overcome PTSD. And she finally starts to act more compassionate in her everyday life, like with the new air benders. . Granted, I think after 2 full seasons, people already settled into disliking Korra’s character. And I can see this as being too little too late. But damn it, at least she improved in the end.

  • @scrapyarddragon
    @scrapyarddragon Год назад

    I can sorta get why she defaults to fire in combat; earthbending could mess up the terrain, and waterbending requires a water-source. She doesn't use air because she sucks at it, so that leaves fire.
    Granted this doesn't apply past season 1, but, WITHIN season 1 it makes sense.

  • @extropiantranshuman
    @extropiantranshuman Год назад +1

    I feel like I'm biased - I never really met a character as close to my personality as korra. She's the character version of me.

    • @PilgrimsPass
      @PilgrimsPass  Год назад +2

      I'm glad you enjoyed Korra. :) I'm also glad that you don't seem bothered by my different opinion. I respect that a lot

    • @extropiantranshuman
      @extropiantranshuman Год назад +1

      @@PilgrimsPass I learn from everyone. Thanks for appreciating that! It's perspective that I come for! You're not wrong - I understand where it's coming from - a really literal stance. I like it - because it's finally an independent female character that's stronger than all the others around her - she's the best - so that's what justifies her trivializing of others and going above everyone - because she pulls the entire nation's weight. I feel there's too much pressure in society to have to be a nice person if you have have great skills. This show showed that strong personalities are what brought her to her heights and that people should see that - being really obvious - and get out of the way - otherwise they succumb to her personality through their own weakness. Then she looks down upon that and takes advantage - and that's what brought her to the top. It's others that're taking advantage of her that makes her look bad.
      That said, some of these are bad - they just lack context :) Thanks for letting me say all this - I feel it was needed to be a part 2 afterthought.
      - 1 of the 5 females in the audience

    • @extropiantranshuman
      @extropiantranshuman Год назад

      the other character I relate to is zenon carr - from the zenon movie. The issue with both of these characters is that I don't relate to either of their romantic lives.