Sword Art Online Had a Point, Bro

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  • @PilgrimsPass
    @PilgrimsPass  9 месяцев назад +28

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    • @matmax8737
      @matmax8737 9 месяцев назад +6

      I can't wait for your take on Mushoku Tensei

    • @bryanmcclure2220
      @bryanmcclure2220 9 месяцев назад +5

      Well I like legend of korra so who am I to judge.

    • @Ryanowning
      @Ryanowning 9 месяцев назад +2

      @PilgrimsPass you should try out Sword Art Online Abridged. They got rid of all the bad writing and replaced it with solid writing. For example, the cousin becomes his actual sister and there is ZERO romance plot to it, but I don't want to spoil why it's so good because part of why it's so good is that it hits REALLY hard when you find out why she's a piece of shit to him in that version and it honestly became one of the most wholesome moments in all of anime... Even if it's just an abridged show.
      Another reason to try it is that abridged shows are shorter than their originals. It will still take something like 6 hours to get through all of it, but it's worth it.
      Although, you might mourn that they changed Kayaba's motivation. I can't complain personally because his new motivation is too funny and makes him a pretty tragic character that has it's own whole set of philosophy behind it match surprisingly well since it's still similar.

    • @ellugerdelacruz2555
      @ellugerdelacruz2555 9 месяцев назад

      It may have had a point, but that doesn't mean it aint crap.
      Just because it's "symbolic and means stuff" doesn mean it's good."

    • @ellugerdelacruz2555
      @ellugerdelacruz2555 9 месяцев назад

      4:30
      Oh so you're just fine with promoting degeneracy!?!? THIS right here ladies and gentlemen is why Anime Fans are still seen as freaks and weirdos. Hell, most of those complaints aren't even what people are griping about in this show!!!
      In this case ThatAnimeSnob has a much more solid grasp and care about anime than you do...
      He and other critics like him actually _care_ about anime and want it to be seen as art and not just "sucker consoomer stuff".

  • @Kayjoir
    @Kayjoir 9 месяцев назад +272

    The first season of Sao touches lightly on the development of closed off societies. The characters are all cut off from The Real World. Of course you have the main group of people that are trying to complete the game, but you also have the non-combatant people trying to live as normal life as possible, even setting up shops and using in-game talents to make a living. There's even an orphanage for little kids that has entered the game.

    • @ellugerdelacruz2555
      @ellugerdelacruz2555 9 месяцев назад +26

      Digital Circus and SAO Aabridged had a more centralized focus on the ramifications of such a Sci-Fi concept than SAO did...

    • @ihatefridays2715
      @ihatefridays2715 8 месяцев назад +29

      "SAO Abridged" is overrated honestly, and frankly what it adds to the show is hilariously exaggerated.
      I kind of wish its fans would stop bringing it up all the time, because I get a sort of second hand embarrassment when I see 10 people saying it's a "MASTERPIECE" using the exact same words to praise it.

    • @edcaous
      @edcaous 8 месяцев назад +8

      @@ihatefridays2715 Yeah, the other guy saying it had a more centralized focus on the ramification of the concept is just funny to me. But it makes more sense if you read his other comments here. They're... not the most stable.

    • @padma0007
      @padma0007 6 месяцев назад +4

      Another example of people trying to live their own lives is our favorite fisherman , The one , The only , Nishida

  • @csongorarpad4670
    @csongorarpad4670 9 месяцев назад +99

    "If I get Isekai'd I'm not giving a sh*t!
    I'm joining the Pope and burning all the heretics" should be on a shirt!

    • @jamescopeland6802
      @jamescopeland6802 Месяц назад +2

      If anyone gets isaekai'd they will still have the same personality they have now, if you are to shy to hit on your crush now being isekai'd won't immediately change that for example. And i would personally never want a isakai to re-write any personality traits of mine that prevent me from getting what i want because i wouldn't trust the system to not re-write something i want to keep or something.

  • @Kayjoir
    @Kayjoir 9 месяцев назад +375

    Isekai is an interesting genre. One that predates modern Japanese Manga and Anime. Just about any folk tale that talks about somebody being dragged to the underworld or the fairy Realm follows a similar structure. Among books written in the last 300 years that follow the setup in the West are Peter Pan, A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court, The Chronicles of Narnia series, and Alice in Wonderland. You could even argue that the Christmas carol has some isekai aspects to it. It's interesting how fascinated we are with traveling to unknown lands / worlds

    • @lordilluminati5836
      @lordilluminati5836 9 месяцев назад +20

      Personally, I would not consider most of those examples as isekai. The isekai genre has specific tropes and elements besides JUST being in another world that aren't part of mostof these stories, notably, that being fromt he real world specifically affects the plot.
      wendy being from the modern day doesn't really matter, nor does alice or the kids from narnia. Real world does not give them any special perspective or ability, other than needing to have the whole setting explained to them.
      Conneticut yankee tho IS a real isekai, the protagonist being from the real (by then modern) world makes the whole story. This has more paralels to other isekai, where the main character has either a special power or gamer knowledge that gives an advantage.

    • @pauloazuela8488
      @pauloazuela8488 9 месяцев назад +14

      @@lordilluminati5836 It is an Isekai until it gets matured to the point we unintentionally put tropes(writers), making it very specific to some. The Japanese word "Sekai" alone means "world"

    • @reactiondavant-garde3391
      @reactiondavant-garde3391 9 месяцев назад +17

      @@lordilluminati5836 Isekai fundemantally only about going from one world to an another. I read iskeais where the main charatcer doens't had any special power and his skills were dependent on his personality and not on what era he was from. The other tropes you talk about are not essential, a lot of isekai about buying slaves for a harem, it's make slavery an essential part of isekai storise? No, it is not. It is only mean thet it is a popular trope in japanese entertainment and in case of isekai it is easy to insert.

    • @konnorporter5115
      @konnorporter5115 9 месяцев назад +20

      @@lordilluminati5836I would definitely count the Chronicles of Narnia as Isekai, as their being "the children of Adam" was the advantage they had in rallying the animal folk, defeating the Ice Queen (associated with the myth of Lillith), and becoming literal Kings and Queens. In a way it even fulfilled the power fantasy trope.
      Portal to a magical world? Check. Protagonists gain an advantage in new world? Check. Protagonists defeat Dark Lord? Check. Protagonists become most powerful beings in said world? Check (other than Aslan, who is God, so I think it still holds)

    • @krinkrin5982
      @krinkrin5982 9 месяцев назад +12

      There is a much older story, literally called A True Story, by the 2nd century writer Lucian of Samosata, in which the characters go to the moon and take part in a war between the Moon Kingdom and the Sun Kingdom. It was written as a satire of contemporary travelog stories, as well as critique of the classical writers like Homer.

  • @SurrealKeenan
    @SurrealKeenan 9 месяцев назад +404

    A big part of the hatred for SAO was a reaction to how ridiculously popular it was on release. It is one of the most influential light novels of the 2010s and most other light novels that become anime are inspired by it. Is it the worst thing ever? No. But the cognitive dissonance that we all have over it fuels our rage far more than any truly problematic elements could.
    You are currently experiencing the opposite psychological phenomenon where you have been told to expect actual satan, but instead received a mid-to-low quality show which highlights all the positive aspects while diminishing the negatives.

    • @nathanielscreativecollecti6392
      @nathanielscreativecollecti6392 9 месяцев назад +7

      From the New World was clearly better but was overshadowed. It even could have used an extra bit of animation budget.

    • @antongrigoryev6381
      @antongrigoryev6381 9 месяцев назад +23

      @@nathanielscreativecollecti6392 So is Log Horizon. Such an amazing MMORPG anime.

    • @reactiondavant-garde3391
      @reactiondavant-garde3391 9 месяцев назад +5

      @@antongrigoryev6381 Log Horizon not even in the same leauge with SAO and New World. Though if I remember corretly the problem with Log Horizon was thet the creator of the light novel gone to jail for tax evasion.

    • @UnstopablePatrik
      @UnstopablePatrik 9 месяцев назад

      @@nathanielscreativecollecti6392 I would love to hear Pilgrim's thoughts on From the New World.

    • @SupLuiKir
      @SupLuiKir 9 месяцев назад +14

      @@reactiondavant-garde3391 Because he hired someone to do his taxes, and then they didn't do his taxes.

  • @the_timinator77
    @the_timinator77 9 месяцев назад +106

    Sao fascinated me when it first came out by the premise of the first episode: "What if I was trapped in game? What would I do?"
    I think it gets hate mostly from how fast the castle in the sky arc was; perhaps if it got an entire 24 episode season it would flow more naturally.

    • @bsmith6784
      @bsmith6784 9 месяцев назад +10

      Yeah, as I was watching on Adult Swim, I was annoyed that they skipped so much. I guess the author thought that showing the MC's constant grinding and fighting boss monsters would've felt repetitive.

    • @firenze6478
      @firenze6478 8 месяцев назад +4

      Also the follow up arc was one of the worst arcs in isekai. Boring, stupid and gross.

    • @MoonyRuney
      @MoonyRuney 8 месяцев назад +7

      @@bsmith6784 The author actually wrote SAO as 1 book, but when that suddenly exploded in popularity, released a 2nd book of short stories of things that happened during book 1 in the background. 6 epiosdes for book 1, which was start and end of the aincrad arc, and 6 episodes adding in the blacksmith girl, the dragon girl, kirito and asuna's daughter.

    • @crocidile90
      @crocidile90 8 месяцев назад +2

      The bigger problem was that the author was trying to submit the story to a LN competition, shortened the story to fit and make due date, then it got a manga adaptation and anime afterwards all the while this guy was barely high school graduate. His big hit got really too popular too fast and IMHO, should have used the anime to extend the story he wanted (or add more consistent world building, asking actual high lvl MMO players how they operate, and making sure the main antagonist DOESN'T FORGET WHY HE DID THIS) it would have been looked back upon better.
      Also SAO Abridged does fill in nearly all the gaps in the story it was also made by people who like the OG source material because if it weren't then Paramount's Halo LA show would have looked like a love letter to fans in comparison what an ACTUALLY hate filled SAO:A would have been.

    • @sinusspass1998
      @sinusspass1998 4 месяца назад +2

      That arc had the potential to become a 1000+ episode anime with insane nuances and details, but what did we get? 14.
      Sure, at first an author has to try to compress the story and this works for the average really good, but the really good stories have the pacing and details they need, not they should have. Some are basic and fit to few episodes, some need more and some are built for really much content.
      Going back to SAO, most of it fits well with its pacing, but the first arc failed completely and was one of the biggest chances to launch a new long-term anime.

  • @Warrior-Of-Virtue
    @Warrior-Of-Virtue 9 месяцев назад +59

    I have a theory about the hacking scene. After Kirito unlocked duel-wielding, Kayaba was probably watching him like a hawk and might have been responsible for the ridiculous situations he kept winding up in. And when he saw Kirito trying to save his daughter, he used his literal God of the digital world powers to make sure he succeeded. In other words, Kirito didn't hack crap. Kayaba threw him a bone.

    • @krinkrin5982
      @krinkrin5982 9 месяцев назад +26

      Considering the ending, that might have very well been the case, considering Kayaba quite literally had a 'limbo' area where he talks to the two about his life, dreams and ambition. Through all that he shows great respect for Kirito and who he had become.

    • @bsmith6784
      @bsmith6784 9 месяцев назад +19

      @@krinkrin5982 If you think about it, that limbo zone implies that Kayaba is even more of a monster than he initially seems. In order for Asuna to be there, that must mean everyone initially goes there at least temporarily before they "die for real," since he was busy with Kirito when her avatar died.
      But... why? Why implement that kind of delay?
      Well, what does Kayaba do with it the one time we see it? *He uses it to talk to the freshly "killed" players.*
      All together, that means "Players die for real when they are killed in the game" is a lie. The truth is, *"Kayaba* literally kills players after they die in the game." He didn't just make a program and hardware that kills people, he pulls the trigger himself each time. He presumably uses that limbo zone to talk to them about how they're about to die or whatever, then pushes a button to kill them when he's done.

    • @davidarvingumazon5024
      @davidarvingumazon5024 8 месяцев назад +6

      @@bsmith6784 O_O

    • @Kirito843
      @Kirito843 8 месяцев назад +22

      Kayaba didn’t throw a bone, nor did Kirito hack anything. The anime just made it look more badass than it was supposed to be. All Kirito did was use a GM console (with no GM authority by the way, Yui simply had it open because of her admin status) and copied and pasted Yui’s code into an item. He didn’t hack anything. And before you ask why Yui didn’t just log people out, while she was an admin, her privileges were limited. Mass logging out was never an option, even at that very scene.

    • @Kirito843
      @Kirito843 8 месяцев назад +12

      @@bsmith6784 That simply wouldn’t make sense either because there’s simply no way Kayaba could be able to take out the masses so soon, especially the players who literally died seconds into SAO starting up. And it goes against everything Kayaba is as a character. Kayaba was never a monster who’s goal was to kill as many people as possible, let alone personally killing them himself. Yes, he created SAO with the built in function of death in reality should you die in the game, but he didn’t personally kill them. He didn’t play god with them, he actively lived among the players in the society that he created and even nurtured some of them to be in the top ranks. What killed those players was byproducts of what society simply is. Whether it be suicide, death by other players, or death by the elements of the world, just like real life death would be like. Kayaba made the world and for sure is responsible for the deaths no matter how it’s construed, but he never stooped so low as to personally kill players in that ‘after world’ when it was never his goal to take as many lives as possible. He wanted to create a true alternate world where there were actual people living in that world (I.e, the SAO players) and he succeeded. That was his goal and has always been his goal. The ‘after world’ area Kirito and Asuna showed up on when they died could’ve literally been where the players were sent to as their data was being deleted. That simple.

  • @peaceribbon8322
    @peaceribbon8322 9 месяцев назад +118

    SAO was the first anime I watched under the impression that it was anime, and while I’d never call it great in hindsight I do think it probably deserved more credit. Like yeah the show had problems, but the criticism was always so theatrical that you couldn’t help feeling it was a little overdone.

    • @ellugerdelacruz2555
      @ellugerdelacruz2555 9 месяцев назад +5

      1. Does "theatricality" discount what the critics have actually said?
      2. Pilgrims Pass is in the dark about what's bringing Modern Anime down, and spoiler alert, it's one of the reasons why the Japanese struggle to make babies and why Anime is still seen as "trash" by many people...

    • @peaceribbon8322
      @peaceribbon8322 9 месяцев назад +18

      @@ellugerdelacruz2555 As stated in the video many of the criticisms are fundamentally valid, but if they were expressed in a more matter of fact way I argue they really don't add up "literally the worst anime ever".

    • @FuckYoutubeAndGoogle
      @FuckYoutubeAndGoogle 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@peaceribbon8322Who says that it's "literally the worst anime ever"? I've literally never heard anyone say that. It is really bad, however.

    • @edcaous
      @edcaous 8 месяцев назад +9

      @@ellugerdelacruz2555 Ah yes, anime, the source of all of Japan's societal problems.

    • @MaxRavenclaw
      @MaxRavenclaw 8 месяцев назад +2

      I think there's a issue of perspective. The show is super popular so it's a lot more likely you'll find people who adore it and unironically consider it has few to no flaws than people who are overly-critical of it. This is why I myself came to dislike it a lot more than I would have normally. That and my vehement hate of harems and similar other cliches.

  • @csongorarpad4670
    @csongorarpad4670 9 месяцев назад +19

    *bUt dO yOu eEvEn tHe fEmAlE mInD bRo?" got me genuinely laughing, man!

  • @Yoda_UA
    @Yoda_UA 8 месяцев назад +11

    You just gave name for the new anime series/manga 'I joined the Pope and now burning heretics in a new world' 😆

  • @Kayjoir
    @Kayjoir 9 месяцев назад +51

    I think the simulation hypothesis has potential as an allegory or symbolic Mythos, but not beyond that. I agree with cs Lewis's views about the afterlife for the most part. In 'The great divorce' and 'Chronicles of Narnia; The Last Battle' he gives a good illustration of his speculations of Heaven. He clarifies that he doesn't know what heaven's like and that this is just his fantasies about it, but I like the direction he goes

    • @Kayjoir
      @Kayjoir 9 месяцев назад +8

      What I'm getting at is that mortality is less real than eternity. Our senses will be sharper, our mental awareness will be more clear, and our emotions will be more tangible.

  • @nathanparrish9956
    @nathanparrish9956 9 месяцев назад +23

    oh damn someone online who also likes sao, thx bro

  • @jakethetastelesscasual
    @jakethetastelesscasual 9 месяцев назад +50

    “Asuna is best girl.”
    Ah, I see you’re a man of culture as well.

    • @Alan.jn02
      @Alan.jn02 8 месяцев назад +2

      Ah, yes, a man of culture indeed😎

    • @SapphirePlains
      @SapphirePlains 3 месяца назад

      Long time no see Jake

  • @erickmoczulski1582
    @erickmoczulski1582 9 месяцев назад +196

    In my opinion there are 3 main reasons for why SAO is hated:
    1. Disapointed gamers. Gamers wanted an anime that would show off the MMORPG culture. Slang, inevitable glitches, how real guilds in games work etc. So they pretty much hated it from the start becouse it disapointed them.
    2. Scapegoat. Anime reviewers like having a show they can mock into oblivion for views and prestige. SAO has a lot of small problems that are easy and entertaining to point out (for example there is a guy fighting with two axes before the big reveal that Kirito can use TWO!!! SWORDS!!! WOW!!!). Aditionaly the show got outragesly popular and it wasn't good enough to justify it with its quality..
    3. Bad arc 2. Arc 2 was significantly worse then arc 1 so a lot of people who liked the show at first stoped watching and were easy to convince that it's all utterly sh*t.

    • @n.f.ch.m.ph.67
      @n.f.ch.m.ph.67 9 месяцев назад +21

      While arc 2 was mediocre, it was still way more entertaining than most modern isekais (well, in my experience). And arc 3 and Mother's Rosario are not bad at all.

    • @pauloazuela8488
      @pauloazuela8488 9 месяцев назад +13

      @@n.f.ch.m.ph.67 Fairy Dance arc I enjoy it , since it's a lover's arc part 2 where he saves the girl and finally now he's in reality that he wants to risk his life despite that he escape reality too many times before. Alicization talks about the simulation and the abstract of our image as a specie which we might experience irl , when does the time that AI became so sentient that it was seen as immoral to kill them

    • @Saltybeef90210
      @Saltybeef90210 9 месяцев назад +5

      That second arc would have worked fine....As it's own thing with the cousin romance crap written out. As something connected to a previous arc it's absolutely dumb. It's like a something out of the show, Reboot if is was written by 13 year old.

    • @ellugerdelacruz2555
      @ellugerdelacruz2555 9 месяцев назад +1

      If you watch the bad reviews and take into account what they all say, it paints a clear picture as to why...

    • @pstrap1311
      @pstrap1311 9 месяцев назад +12

      Reason #4: It was total crap from the very start. It is the most vapid, puerile, wishfullfillment based, harem having, personalityless protagonist following, low stakes, boring, gross, stupid corporate crap I could possibly imagine. Actually, I'm pretty sure that should be reason #1.

  • @sk8timator7
    @sk8timator7 8 месяцев назад +15

    The first thing that SAO make me interested is the love story(since it is one of this anime main genre), I know the love story in it isnt complex or condensed much but suprisingly it kinda stands on it own by anime standard. It kinda confusing how a lot of romance stories in japan either finished kinda blurry, just ended after confession or the source material has got it ended but never adapted. While in SAO I like the straightforwardness of the story, Kirito and Asuna just get together since 1st seasons and going strong 2 to 3 seasons after.

  • @bsmith6784
    @bsmith6784 9 месяцев назад +20

    If you think about it, that limbo zone at the end of Aincrad implies that Kayaba is even more of a _God-playing _*_monster_* than he initially seems. Asuna being there so long after her character died must mean _everyone_ initially goes there before they "die for real." After all, Kayaba was busy with Kirito when her avatar died, so he wasn't able to interfere with the system right then.
    But... why? Why implement that kind of protocol?
    Well, what does Kayaba do with it the one time we see it? *He uses it to talk to the freshly "killed" players.*
    All together, that means saying "Players die for real when they are killed in the game" would be a lie. The truth is, *"Kayaba himself* kills players after they die in the game." He didn't just make a program and hardware that kills people whenever their hp reach zero; even that tenuous bit of separation is absent. No, he *_personally_* pulls the trigger each time. He presumably uses that limbo zone to talk to them about how they're about to die or whatever, lords that over them, sees how they "face their deaths," then pushes a button to murder them when he's done.

    • @VinodJain-pj9gk
      @VinodJain-pj9gk 8 месяцев назад +1

      Damn that actually make quite sense...
      I do hv other theory... simply kayaba wanted them both to live on as he saw immense potential in them as they both showed him how his system can be overrided by strong emotions.... maybe something more at play ...
      Good thing is the intuition of kayaba was right...
      VR then progressed to the world where artificial fluclights are inhabiting
      Further more in recent arc.... there's the merger of all VR worlds and kayaba himself with star King kirito discuss the situation.....
      So I assume kayaba wish came true ...VR worlds are expanding nonetheless

    • @ihatefridays2715
      @ihatefridays2715 8 месяцев назад +3

      I feel like this makes him less sympathetic, so I don't really like this interpretation, but other than that, I can't really find any issues with it.

    • @absolutechaos13
      @absolutechaos13 11 дней назад

      It's also possible that Kayaba would personally review each death and "save" people that had a good "death interview", further playing into his god complex.

  • @itsame8057
    @itsame8057 9 месяцев назад +76

    SAO's depiction of how family can overcome the machinations of an overreaching "system" and even the sub "systems" subordinate to it was an incredibly wholesome. I think the reason SAO landed wrong was because its target audience, western weebs, have assumed they will never have such a family. Its ingrained into the culture at this point that weebs are shut in otaku failures who will never take their place in society, and never have meaningful romantic relationships. Nor children.
    The hate was not from disgust. It was from envy.

    • @FuckYoutubeAndGoogle
      @FuckYoutubeAndGoogle 8 месяцев назад

      You're projecting.

    • @Crimzon_Nova
      @Crimzon_Nova 8 месяцев назад +11

      What a defined way to put it, and I agree.

    • @Skywolfhd20
      @Skywolfhd20 8 месяцев назад +3

      interesting take

    • @seg162
      @seg162 4 месяца назад

      If that's the case, then why is it massively popular in its home country, where people are procreating even _less?_

    • @amandaslough125
      @amandaslough125 12 дней назад

      ​@@seg162 Because of the working economy and prices, crunch culture on steroids and senior legacy, and a lot more complicated stuff leading to the declining population. Nothing to do specifically because "Japan hates families".

  • @1Racerforever
    @1Racerforever 8 месяцев назад +35

    How people still misunderstand the ""hacking"" scene more than 10 years later baffles me, but I'll put it on the anime doing too much visualy
    There is no hacking of any sort in this scene, all Kirito did was use is programming knowledge, which we know he has because he's been dabbling in it since he was 10, to localize and pack Yui's core process in an item and materialise it.
    Does nobody even realized that it was Yui herself, basicaly a copy of the system with pretty much all admin properties, that opened the console and made it accessible to anyone knowing how tu use it ?

    • @1Racerforever
      @1Racerforever 8 месяцев назад +8

      But once again, the anime is at fault for not correctly showing what's happening, which is the main point of contention for the novel-reading part of the fanbase, and Alicization was the absolute worst in that manner (but I won't start talking about it because it's gonna make me angry)

    • @cseijifja
      @cseijifja 8 месяцев назад +3

      how the fuck does he know were yui is, what's the file, why is console still there, how does kirito know how a brand new console for a brand new, tech defiying gear works?, how does he know how an impossibly complex, ground breaking, genious made file system works? In seconds.

    • @aSSholeShitty1
      @aSSholeShitty1 8 месяцев назад

      ⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@cseijifjaif you fool around with terminal for some time you will know how to navigate in pretty much any system. It’s very straightforward, genius made or not or brand new or not.
      But how does he found the right file? This is a good question. The only answer I can give is he just knew where to look. It’s possible he knew it from other games with the same or similar game engine. We can assume this game isn’t the first true vr game in the anime because other games and/or vr projects were mentioned in second or third season (I don’t remember in which one exactly, maybe in both). So it’s possible Kirito dug in other vr game’s file system and knows where which kinds of files may be found. From here you just search by name (assuming Yui’s name is the same in file system). That’s it. Few assumptions to tolerate but not that big of a deal

    • @amandaslough125
      @amandaslough125 12 дней назад

      ​@@cseijifjaThe only BS part is how fast he does it.
      But Kirito became a beta tester for the game precisely because he was following the creator for years, considering him as a role model, and studying his coding practices. It's shown in the bedroom details of the opening scene.

  • @carsandsports123
    @carsandsports123 9 месяцев назад +61

    We all liked the 1st part but the question is if you like it after that part
    Regarding why only SAO gets the complaints for things seen in wider anime. I think its the bait and switch. There is a community that likes the ecchi/ harem stuff but thats not mainstream. SAO 1st part sold us that the show was a mainstream anime and not an ecchi and then you got the usual anger that comes with a bait and switch

    • @Martick05545
      @Martick05545 9 месяцев назад +10

      The disappointment of SAO was that it wasn't a show that only explored the 100(?) floors of the MMORPG and the struggles they faced as they advanced.

    • @SoloRenegade
      @SoloRenegade 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@Martick05545 exactly, it should have spent 2 full seasons in the game before they escaped.

    • @SoloRenegade
      @SoloRenegade 9 месяцев назад +11

      Harem.....
      He's only ever involved romantically with one of them, and there are male characters in teh group too.

    • @FuckYoutubeAndGoogle
      @FuckYoutubeAndGoogle 8 месяцев назад

      ​​@@SoloRenegadeLmao, every fucking girl Kirito so much as looks at, is wet for him, it may as well be a harem show. Just because he doesn't do anything just makes it worse, because it annoys fans who don't like harem anime and it annoys harem fans who want it to actually commit to the bit that it's doing.

    • @SoloRenegade
      @SoloRenegade 8 месяцев назад

      @@FuckRUclipsAndGoogle so is every rock band a Harem? they have groupies wet for them too?
      Top athletes, rich and powerful, hollywood stars, etc. are all real life harems according to you.
      they are just portraying real life behavior of real people.
      Also, women are attracted to top performers, and to the men who save them.
      "because it annoys fans who don't like harem anime and it annoys harem fans who want it to actually commit to the bit that it's doing."
      I totally get that.

  • @milkeywilkie
    @milkeywilkie 4 месяца назад +2

    SAO was the first anime I ever watched when I was 11, and I honestly loved it at that age, and cried a heck of a lot at the ending of season 1 part 1. When I watched it again when I was a teenager, Kirito and Asuna's romance hit me just as hard, and I still appreciate it to this day, and I consider it to have shaped me as a person today.

  • @sterlinsilver
    @sterlinsilver 9 месяцев назад +14

    SAO was the first anime I ever watched, and it certainly sparked my love for the medium. I remember really liking the first season. I was never able to make it through the second season. I knew in only a few episodes that this was no longer the show I fell in love with.

    • @ellugerdelacruz2555
      @ellugerdelacruz2555 9 месяцев назад

      Sequels Always Suck....
      Star Wars proved this.

    • @bsmith6784
      @bsmith6784 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@ellugerdelacruz2555 Empire Strikes Back was _great,_ though

    • @tankenjoyer9175
      @tankenjoyer9175 2 месяца назад

      i really feel like Alicization and war of underworld was great seasons, they were trying to fix the anime.

  • @NarrowSpark96
    @NarrowSpark96 9 месяцев назад +37

    I've always thought that the best way to describe SAO is a terrible story that has good themes hidden within. The ideas behind each arc is actually really good. Aincrad is discussed here, but I want to highlight the idea that VR is no different from Reality. Fairy Dance seems filler, but focuses on how Kirito is lacking alone. And he rebuilds his relationship with his cousin through VR games. GGO is an extension of the Aincrad arc, saying that those who would kill in a death game would do so out of it. Excalibur is filler, but it still displays these ideals. It may not always do it well, but SAO does have something it wants to portray.

    • @krinkrin5982
      @krinkrin5982 9 месяцев назад +12

      Excalibur had some really interesting ideas as well, like exploring the freedom VR can give people that are somehow disabled, and through that make them happy. Klein's infatuation with an NPC touched on people getting attracted to AI, though it could have been explored a little more.

    • @furyberserk
      @furyberserk 8 месяцев назад +4

      If it means to display something, my guess is that people are people regardless of where they come from or where they go. The world isn't better because we would always make it how it is. People display morality and immorality, have bouts of selfishness and charity, etc.
      You wouldn't really be different if you were a different person in a different world, and like in a dream, when you wake up, you carry that with you as well.

  • @erickmoczulski1582
    @erickmoczulski1582 9 месяцев назад +16

    Good isekai with good church "Faraway Paladin". Since you keep complaining about church in isekai I recomend you this one.

    • @PilgrimsPass
      @PilgrimsPass  9 месяцев назад +6

      nice.

    • @ab-gail
      @ab-gail 9 месяцев назад +5

      Finally!!

    • @jordanandrew2786
      @jordanandrew2786 9 месяцев назад +7

      A Japanese novel/manga that depicts the church as good and demons as evil, a real gem.

    • @PilgrimsPass
      @PilgrimsPass  9 месяцев назад +2

      @@jordanandrew2786 got it on crunchyroll now, will start watching :)

    • @reactiondavant-garde3391
      @reactiondavant-garde3391 9 месяцев назад

      Oh, it is so good subversion as well.

  • @armorbearer9702
    @armorbearer9702 3 месяца назад +2

    I have found a new appreciation for Sword Art Online. I always knew that Kirito was good because he was an avid fan and gamer. I never thought about his kendo background helping him become a better player.

  • @thelittlefool2794
    @thelittlefool2794 9 месяцев назад +7

    Amazing video as always. Would love to see you do a video on Sousou no Frieren, a show that deliver a lot of things that i find missing these days in modern fantasy/isekai anime, the sense of awe and wonder, of camaraderie, of love and of heroism. It really reminds me why i love the genre in the first place back when i first watched the lord of the ring.

  • @user-lz1yb6qk3f
    @user-lz1yb6qk3f 9 месяцев назад +7

    2:45 No, this issues aren't 'common'. They aren't present in the Death Note, Cowboy Bebop, the Twelve Kingdoms and many other classical titles. Anime can be done without 'weirdness'. We should not endure it, it shouldn't be happening.

    • @PilgrimsPass
      @PilgrimsPass  9 месяцев назад +2

      that I agree. But degeneration happens regularly to cultural centers. The only solution is for new centers to be created that only learn from the classics.

    • @user-lz1yb6qk3f
      @user-lz1yb6qk3f 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@PilgrimsPass doesn't sound like solution. Doesn't solve anything.

    • @PilgrimsPass
      @PilgrimsPass  9 месяцев назад +1

      @@user-lz1yb6qk3f i was implying we make new content ourselves and learn from the classics. I'm working on something right now, which means no videos in november.

    • @seg162
      @seg162 5 месяцев назад +1

      Sure, it can be done without 'weirdness'.
      You can also watch anime that doesn't have that weirdness in the first place, which is easier to do than demanding a foreign industry change its priorities as someone who's in the least important major market for its material.

  • @garrylean9493
    @garrylean9493 9 месяцев назад +10

    SAO was my first proper anime (I'd seen snipets of DBZ and Hunter X Hunter when I was little but SAO was the first series I watched proper) so I could never hate it and will always be a fan. (Though yeah it does have its problems~)
    But I never understood the "Harem" anime argument. Asuna is CLEARLY Kirito's girl and ONE. TRUE. LOVE. (Also best girl as you said~ >;3)
    Shuga held out the longest in terms of loving Kirito but it was very obvi that that relationship wasn't working out. (Besides everything else, Kirito was LITERALLY in Elfheim just cause he heard rumors that's where Asuna was). Liz and Silica also had feelings for him but they were one episode snipets. Sinon NEVER loved Kirito, but he was a pillar of support during the GGO arc (which I personally enjoyed) so there's that I guess?
    All in all, Alice would be the closest "love" interest I could see happening but...well half her time was as a brainwashed knight freed by his hand and the other was as his nurse for when he fell into a vegetable-like state.
    Bottom line, Asuna IS. THE. GIRL. (Who else had a solo arc dedicated to them? I swear people forget Yuki was even a person and that just sucks)

    • @scpfilechildrenbarrow2212
      @scpfilechildrenbarrow2212 8 месяцев назад

      Yeah, it's funny cause a lot of the girls people consider members of his "harem" just lost interest in him as a partner after a single episode lol, sometimes half.

    • @garrylean9493
      @garrylean9493 8 месяцев назад

      @@scpfilechildrenbarrow2212 Or never at all in Sinon's case!

    • @seg162
      @seg162 5 месяцев назад +1

      SAO doesn't go out of its way to have a harem element, and it's absolutely true that Asuna is in fact "the girl", but it doesn't change the fact that the female characters' relationships with Kirito are always clearly meant to portray him as popular with women. Lisbeth's and Silica's stories were published after the Aincrad arc wherein Kirito and Asuna outright marry. Suguha's romantic subplot chronologically proceeds all of those. Sinon has ship tease with Kirito during Phantom Bullet _and_ Excalibur, and Klein teases him about his popularity with women in the latter.
      I don't think that, even if it were a straight-up harem, it would _intrinsically_ detract from whatever quality SAO has (in fact, _why_ would be intrinsically bad?). But we should be more honest about what's there, and not try to handwave it away.

  • @scpfilechildrenbarrow2212
    @scpfilechildrenbarrow2212 8 месяцев назад +7

    6:36
    They wanted AI to disobey because they needed proof that the AI was capable adapting to situations they haven't experienced before and make their own decisions before sending them off. Otherwise they wouldn't be effective replacements for the experienced people who make those decisions right now.
    Kirito wasn't there to make them cynical and disobedient to the gods, if I remember correctly he was there to 1. recover and 2. eventually find what happened to the fluctlight named Alice and report it to Kikouka. Imo I think you misinterpreted this arc a little.

    • @user-mr8yy1do6k
      @user-mr8yy1do6k 8 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah, technically Kirito wasn't supposed to start a revolution at all.
      They put him in there to recover his mind and wanted him to find out what the heck happened to the one AI that showed promise (Alice) that disappeared.
      And nothing about it was actually about being disobedient to the gods (not us, the supervisor accounts created to oversee the world for its first few years) but rather the moral code Administrator imposed on everybody. When you examine the code you'd see that the rules were deliberately made to prevent people from rebelling or making important decisions for themselves, which is exactly the opposite of what they wanted. This was the fault of the Administrator, not the gods.

  • @Triforcebro
    @Triforcebro 9 месяцев назад +37

    I wish we got more seasons with actually climbing the towers and the mental state everyone would go through. That dark take was what made SAO feel good and relatable. Then they made Kirito a damn god in the movie and had laughing coffin become a real terrorist group.....out of left field man. GunGale got dark with the killings and obession so it gets a pass but not alicization. Did not need a whole restart on character development. But Asuna was a boss in that season.

    • @condor-yz6bo
      @condor-yz6bo 9 месяцев назад +3

      I would read the SAO progressive light novels for that

    • @ellugerdelacruz2555
      @ellugerdelacruz2555 9 месяцев назад +1

      Digital Circus isbone of the few Tron successors that actually incorporated the horror of the sci-fi premise alot better...

  • @ThreadBareHope1234
    @ThreadBareHope1234 9 месяцев назад +8

    That is an interesting question, about why the church is always corrupt.
    I heard it's a trope that is supposed to promote individuality. And I also heard the trope has roots in Japanese religion (working your way upward and earning divine status. Meaning the ultimate authority - God - can be challenged). To me that makes sense, since Japan's culture is very rigid and strict. Maybe Japans artists are encourage independence.

    • @Warrior-Of-Virtue
      @Warrior-Of-Virtue 9 месяцев назад +8

      The trope originates from the fact that for a long time, the Catholic Church was the highest authority in all of Europe. The most powerful kings were expected to be at the Pope's beck and call. And, unfortunately, when any organization gets that powerful, it inevitably starts attracting the worst kind of people. It's the entire reason some sects of Christianity today emphasis a personal relationship with God and reject the concept of organized worship.

    • @ThreadBareHope1234
      @ThreadBareHope1234 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@Warrior-Of-Virtue I forgot about that. Thanks

    • @jjhh320
      @jjhh320 9 месяцев назад +4

      @@Warrior-Of-Virtue Yeah but it's very in line with the original comment. A lot of anime have a common theme of characters learning the value of thinking for oneself and figuring out how to be a hero but in their own way, rather than blindly doing it the way others expect them to. Japanese artists would definitely resonate with church parallels that insist upon collective ideology and behavior.

  • @TheHangedMan
    @TheHangedMan 9 месяцев назад +4

    The weeb social contract at 2:51 is literally me fr fr

  • @attaque71
    @attaque71 9 месяцев назад +3

    Dat sponsor segway got me spilling my coffee
    Good one Sir.

  • @anonymussicarius8899
    @anonymussicarius8899 9 месяцев назад +5

    Just yesterday night I finished watching SAO Season II. Yeah there are weird things in it, but like you said, this is in most anime in one form or another, but what kept me are the themes the are explored. Come on SAO haters, come and tell me that the Mother Rosaries arc is not dealing with the important topic of death of a (young) beloved one or in a broad sense how to deal with your nearing earthly death. I do not need to agree with all of the reasoning in the show about the relation between virtual reality and reality, but it at least raises the questiion.
    I also would say that another important theme is, that regardless how (emotional) strong a person may appear and act as source of inspiration, strength and courage for others, this person still is also just human, with their own problems, fears and demons to face, taking their strength to face them from OTHERS. It shows the interdependency of us, and that in the end no one is strong soley out of his own will, but because of the support he gains from others. (something one can put easily into a theological context.)
    Edit: I just want to clarify, that A) I don´t think that SAO is the best show ever, it has it´s flaws and i enjoy it despite them, and B) I acknowledge that there are valid reasons not to like it, tastes are different! But there is a difference between saying "I don´t like it" and "It´s totally unmitigated trash". And to last opinion I can´t subscribe since I value the core themes underlying each story arc highly, because no matter the enjoyment and quality of execution of the plot, the themes and questions who are the fundament of each one are important to think about.

  • @reviewspiteras
    @reviewspiteras 9 месяцев назад +6

    The sword will always be spiritualy relevant and the age of knights too. Even the japanese love it

    • @OmegaF77
      @OmegaF77 5 месяцев назад

      "Guns are too quick." - Joker, The Dark Knight Rises

  • @SoloRenegade
    @SoloRenegade 9 месяцев назад +2

    6:40 they sent Kirito into save his life in the real world. And he didn't remember his real life in teh game and caused havoc simply due to his presence and human mind.

  • @antongrigoryev6381
    @antongrigoryev6381 9 месяцев назад +6

    I would suggest you take a look at Log Horizon anime. A great show with similar premise and themes to SAO (or at least themes SAO pretends to have at the beginning), but does them so much better, in my opinion at least.

    • @krinkrin5982
      @krinkrin5982 9 месяцев назад +1

      Watched parts of it. Two things that jumped at me was the clash of expectations between players accustomed to the old game world vs how that world has changed (for one, item descriptions actually reflecting its abilities, rather than being fluff), and the resurrection mechanic.

    • @seg162
      @seg162 5 месяцев назад +2

      Log Horizon is an entirely different beast with entirely different purposes, even if you can argue that it's a better trapped-in-an-MMO-type isekai than SAO. It's intensely focused on the nitty gritty of social mechanics to the extent of defined economics and geopolitics.
      That players don't suffer perma-death in the game (absent some extenuating circumstance that I don't think the anime's adapted) is enough on its own to put a dent in "Log Horizon is SAO but better".

  • @fakeofficer3006
    @fakeofficer3006 8 месяцев назад +1

    0:30 SOUND OF THE SKY IN THE BACKGROUND FOR LIKE 1 SECOND, LETS FUCKING GO

  • @zetsumeimaru
    @zetsumeimaru 8 месяцев назад +2

    The Alicization does have some nice pay-offs in tying up loose ends from season one.

  • @dylansmall9699
    @dylansmall9699 9 месяцев назад +3

    Conan the barbarian answered the is life an simulation question. Conan on the gods
    “If life is an illusion, then I am no less an illusion and being thus the illusion is real to me.” Conan the Barbarian in queen of the black coast.

    • @spqrd13
      @spqrd13 5 месяцев назад

      If everything is an illusion then nothing is. If we live in a simulation than that means that something somewhere is real.

  • @krinkrin5982
    @krinkrin5982 9 месяцев назад +6

    I haven't watched the last arc (Alicization), but enjoyed all the previous ones. The best by far were the first and 4th in my opinion, ALO wasn't bad, and the explanation for Kirito being overpowered actually made sense. For those curious, ALO was basically a total conversion mod for SAO, so when Kirito logged in, most of his player data (with notable exceptions) was still readable.
    SAO was a story of people overcoming a hostile environment and each other.
    ALO was more of a New Game + romp, but with a time limit added in to provide the stakes. The villain made me extremely uncomfortable, but I feel like this was the whole point.
    GGO wasn't really my style, but the mystery was enjoyable enough. I think this is the arc that reinforced the idea of it being a harem show.
    Mother's Rosario and the other short stories are on par or better than SAO, and possibly my second favorite of the whole show. They only loose to the original because of their disconnected nature.

  • @Kooljupiter
    @Kooljupiter 9 месяцев назад +2

    Man, you make this anime sound so much better then my in my several attempts to watch it

  • @Toschka_the_Mad
    @Toschka_the_Mad 9 месяцев назад +11

    For me SAO was never an intelligent show, but it always hit the right spots for me emotionally. Kinda like Fairy Tail.

    • @zeroxenoverse9251
      @zeroxenoverse9251 19 дней назад

      Intelligent show? That can apply to every series if your not willing to comprehend or don't know how to read. Like One Piece with goofy character designs affecting the enjoyment.

    • @Toschka_the_Mad
      @Toschka_the_Mad 19 дней назад

      @@zeroxenoverse9251
      Intelligent show might be a bad wording I admit. I meant it more that it is a show without depth. And while any show can be watched with only scraping the surface, SAO is not a show that has any depth (at least for me). Not that this is bad thing, sometimes simplicity is just easier to consume.

  • @danielsurvivor1372
    @danielsurvivor1372 8 месяцев назад +2

    2:30 We NEED you to make a video explaining how having ncest in the anime makes it Shakesperian 😂

  • @demohidu5946
    @demohidu5946 9 месяцев назад +5

    As I understand it, this kind of show is very difficult to keep strong, especially SAO as the the light novels where written in alternate short story formats. I was also a big fan of the first season for many of the same reasons. I was also hoping for a better ending lol.

    • @ShamanMcLamie
      @ShamanMcLamie 6 месяцев назад +3

      This is why I'm not a stickler about following the source material faithfully. Sometimes what works in a book, or comic isn't going to translate well to animation, or live action. I remember some of the early episodes of Attack on Titan having pacing issues. I could sum this up being do to a decision to base each episode off a chapter. One chapter they have five minutes to discuss an issue and come to a decision and in the anime they have to stretch that situation over a 30 minute episode. The first season of Record of Ragnarok had horrendous pacing, but I could tell this was a fun story, but the anime adaptation was bad and part of me had a feeling this was do to the producers faithfully following every scene from the Manga to the shows detriment. The show was doing a lot of things you could get away with when read, but not watched. They really needed to rearrange scenes, add more frames of action and remove some of the exposition. The second season was a marked improvement over the first.
      I think SAO as a story needed an overhaul and a lot of additions to the story. Aincrad had a hundred levels to go through. That has the potential for a long running series. Instead it hops from one Mary Sue power fantasy story to the next without much plot consistency, or overall story structure and then just ends.

  • @Alan.jn02
    @Alan.jn02 8 месяцев назад +1

    The first arc in Aincrad in SAO was one of the first animes I ever watched, and as a young boy at the time, it was extremely inspiring and interesting to me. I used to watch it over and over, while I waited to get tired enough that I either passed out or fell asleep if I was lucky, as someone who has had Insomnia since I was 9 or 10, I had hours upon hours of time just waiting till I got tired enough that I passed out or fell asleep, and with that I would watch SAO in my room. I liked it from when I first watched it, and I still do, Im aware I have some nostalgia with it nowadays, but I also really related to being weak, and socially awkward irl, but in some games being able to be more then that, and I know it sounds silly, but the wholesome connection and love between Kirito and Asuna really helped me to want to be better person, so one day when I meet my future wife, I'll be the best I can be as of then(and hopefully continue to get better) but yeah idk, its just a very important anime to me personally😊.

  • @ethanonan7709
    @ethanonan7709 9 месяцев назад +7

    First episode was the best of the series then it went all downhill from there for me. To be honest I think focusing more on Asuna, Klein, and Andrew alongside Kirito would have been better for story beats. Klein trying to keep his friends alive as the most expireced player among them would have made for some great tension and story beats. Asuna taking a leading role in the effort to clear the game and the headaches that follow leadership roles would have been awesome. Andrew focusing more on the support aspect of gearing up/outfitting the better players to fight floor bosses and shit. Couple that ensemble cast with a slower pace and you'd have the makings of something great and not the generic harem wish fulfillment we got.

    • @MaxRavenclaw
      @MaxRavenclaw 8 месяцев назад

      They did our boy Klein dirty in S2. Reduced to being a clown. And Asuna to a damsel harassed by fuckin' tentacles... Christ...

    • @ShamanMcLamie
      @ShamanMcLamie 6 месяцев назад

      I think this is one of the biggest issues with SAO. It sets itself as a fun adventure story with a dark twist and it turns out to be a rather poorly written power fantasy.
      This had the makings for a long running Shonen series with a hundred floors to explore, survive and overcome. Instead it hops from one unrelated story to another showing off how awesome our main character is, and how everyone loves him and he is the greatest at everything and breaks all the rules of the Universe to win. Kirito the main character of an original story, in am original setting, in an original IP is somehow a Mary Sue. That is quite a feat in bad story telling. Then after a handful of these stories it just ends. After the Aincrad Arc I just stopped watching cause it wasn't the show I expected and we just wrapped up the story with the main premise that peaked my interest to begin with.

  • @lukeedge9557
    @lukeedge9557 9 месяцев назад +13

    SAO season 1 was absolute art with complex characters and huge risk/cost, I hated the sudden shift to the fantasy light hearted. I wish they had finished the story going up the entire tower.

    • @laju6398
      @laju6398 9 месяцев назад +1

      You may want to look into the progressive arc, which is exactly that: Going the tower up floor by floor

  • @reviewspiteras
    @reviewspiteras 9 месяцев назад +6

    SAO problem is kirito due to him being very tropie. The things around him have more value but we get to watch him being praised from everyone

  • @scroletyper8286
    @scroletyper8286 9 месяцев назад +8

    I also find it hilarious how everyone's like "why did Kaiaba do this?" and in the first episdode Kaiaba was like "hey guys heres why I did this,"

    • @krinkrin5982
      @krinkrin5982 9 месяцев назад +5

      When I first heard of SAO, the stupidity of what Kayaba did put me off watching. But when I finally decided to give the show a try, my complaints turned out to all be addressed reasonably well, and I ended up loving the show.

    • @ellugerdelacruz2555
      @ellugerdelacruz2555 9 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@krinkrin5982
      "It's been so long I forgot..."
      Yeah, sure.

    • @krinkrin5982
      @krinkrin5982 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@ellugerdelacruz2555 Not sure I understand your comment. Are you saying I forgot my complaints before watching?

    • @ellugerdelacruz2555
      @ellugerdelacruz2555 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@krinkrin5982
      Bruh, it's LITERALLY what Kayaba said when Kirito asked him why he did what he did...
      THE GUY JUSTIFIED JACK $#!@.

    • @PilgrimsPass
      @PilgrimsPass  9 месяцев назад +9

      Good dialogue often comunicates through subtext instead of it being on the nose. It's more interesting when characters don't say things explicitly but you can still figure it out in the elements of what they're saying. Kaiaba goes on a long monologue about his obsession with a castle in the sky, which indicates that he wanted to build his own heavenly kingdom, which means he wanted play to God. That was very clear to me. Also I think it more believable that Kaiaba in that moment of humilation wouldn't explicitely admit his childish need to play God. So instead he admits it subconsciously by talking about a childhood obsession.
      SAO doesn't always have good dialogue. But that moment with Kaiaba was pretty good for me. But its ok that we dissagree.

  • @shmeebs387
    @shmeebs387 8 месяцев назад +1

    I liked the early stuff where they explore the way people figured out how to live in the digital world. It felt grounded. They were trying to create some semblance of normalcy inside what was essentially an elaborate death trap. There was the military, but there also civilians just trying to get by in the face of an existential threat. It was interesting.

  • @millerduarte6821
    @millerduarte6821 5 месяцев назад +1

    Dude for real, this s the second video and all i can think of is "Dam, what a great script (and video edition)". I usualy don t leave comenteries but... what an awesome work!

  • @lucasstrong9208
    @lucasstrong9208 9 месяцев назад +3

    Before the Alicization arc, I like SAO, and more "hardcore" anime fans would give me crap about it. And I never understood for the same reasons as you. Thank you for recognizing it has the same tropes as so many other anime stories and in fact doesn't even go as hard into some of them.
    I think SAO actually has an interesting pattern in how it handles the first 3 seasons. In Sword Art Online, the threat is that a VR game has physically deadly consequences for EVERYONE. Then in Alfheim Online, the threat is that a VR game has a more existential consequence for some people (with the whole brainwashing plan and keeping people hostage but nobody dies). In Gun Gale, Kirito has to confront his own, very personal trauma regarding his part in the loss of life during Sword Art by effectively facing a demon/ghost from his own past who is trying to recreate that original threat. The scale of each season's threat gets narrower, but the way it connects to the main cast gets deeper. I love it. I won't say the execution is perfect, but it is a great idea explored well enough to be satisfying. Even the next season with Asuna at the helm is trying to explore a very narrow but deep impact of VR games on a select demographic (terminally ill patients), which I still think was done well enough, and is a great transition from negative impacts to potential positive ones.
    Alicization I still don't like, and trying to break it down into the framework of "VR game has impact" doesn't work because it is more about AI, but you could broaden it to be about technology... I dunno, just kinda don't like it.

  • @distributistsshrekvideo
    @distributistsshrekvideo 9 месяцев назад +14

    Only a gigachad would have the balls to say something so controversial

  • @User_Unknown86
    @User_Unknown86 9 месяцев назад +4

    I really love the SAO games. So much fun to play and remind me of the .hack games. They have that MMO skin but are really single player.

  • @yanivproselkov1025
    @yanivproselkov1025 4 месяца назад +1

    The thing about SAO, as distinct from modern isekai, is that Kirito never died in the real world. It's not just some bullshit "I got teleported to a world where all my problems went away the end", he is comatose in reality and as much as he enjoys SAO, people are literally dying as long as they don't work for escape, and even if they do their bodies are decaying rapidly, so there is a genuine time limit. It envisages at once the potential and dangers of virtual reality, and Reki Kawahara, for all his plot contrivances, was one of the first to do this so clearly in the mainstream. At least for season one, things make genuine sense in a truly original topic. I remember yearning for virtual reality as a brave frontier of human experience, same as I did for space travel, after watching this show. For something to inspire that kind of thinking, you really can't shit on it that much.

  • @hermit-67
    @hermit-67 9 месяцев назад +4

    Matrix can also be about the government.

    • @SurrealKeenan
      @SurrealKeenan 9 месяцев назад +3

      it think his point though was that it's not about the technology specifically. The matrix is about simulations and social illusions and is a metaphor for societal hierarchies that we take for granted. SAO is actually about the effect of the technology and people's reactions to it

  • @cockus4192
    @cockus4192 9 месяцев назад +3

    Phantom Bullet was actually the best arc by faaar lmao

  • @athena1491
    @athena1491 6 месяцев назад +2

    I used to really love SAO, i even did a couple cosplay with my ex, and I still get the opening stuck in my head ten years later. I think as time went on i just began to notice more with it, and some of my issues are even issues that the writer has with their own work. The anticlimax at the end just became more and more jarring after a few watches, as did the plotlines, and, I feel like a lot of the characters melted into caricatures of themselves as time went on. Especially the harem girls, and i fell off watching it about the same arc you did, i started getting a bit confused there and it kinda felt like it was dragging... as far as i remember tho, i really liked the GGO arc, ive only really watched it once or twice maybe tho, but the grenade hug really stuck with me as a cute moment.
    and then along came SAO Abridged.... which reworked and is still reworking so much of it, working out inconsitancies, and able to have a long term story endgoal, and more character consistency, a plotline that makes more sense, an experience more true to what gaming is actually like, a lot of comedy, and a really interesting take on characters, as well as giving little bits of background depth to characters like............... I, cant actually remember if in the anime they have the same names anymore, Klein and Tiffany... apparently his name in SAO og is Agil. Huh, well, in the wise words of someone "Heh, no its not." Giving them more characterization than the OG let them have, even referring to things they did that we werent privy to, like a quest to get an axe. Most importantly, we get a satisfying ending to years of investment into a story...
    The original never got a chance to do a lot of these large scope things because it wasnt written as a full story really. As far as I am aware, it was a oneshot writing thing that they wanted to do, that ended up getting popular, so they were kinda figuring it all out as they went. Considering that, its pretty well done, its just not something id watch much of now that im out of middleschool.
    So for me its not about how these things happen in other anime, and i do tend to avoid those things in other anime too, its not just me cherrypicking SAO for the hate high, its disappointment that something i cared about had so much of it too that I didnt really notice the first few times around.
    you make some incredible points, and i fully agree, tho im not sure that if i went back and watched again i would like it... maybe ill try.

  • @blacklightjohn
    @blacklightjohn 7 месяцев назад +1

    It may not be a harem anime as commonly portrayed, but it does lean heavily into harem themes. The continuous additions of female companions, the repetitive depiction of males as losers or villains, and the female companions' only meaningful relationships being the male protagonist and the other women in the group. It improved in Alicization with the introduction of Eugeo and the male Integrity Knights were closer to gray than black than previous male antagonists, but then falls back into its old ways by the end of the arc.

  • @THNKKY
    @THNKKY 3 месяца назад

    Something that really stuck in my craw was how they just forgot about the digital daughter until they needed her. I’d never forget about my kids.

  • @Saint.questions
    @Saint.questions 7 месяцев назад +1

    I remember when this ame out it looked so good!! I didnt see it till way later and like it very much. I didnt know it had so much dislike. 😳

  • @SuiteLifeofDioBrando
    @SuiteLifeofDioBrando 9 месяцев назад

    Ggo alt was fun too, and it has a 2nd season getting made.

  • @8-bitsarda747
    @8-bitsarda747 4 месяца назад +1

    this a bit of a side note on the bit about the not-a-harem/groupies that I've had to explain to people.
    Each of the girls actually has a reason to be there:
    Asuna is Kirito's wife
    Liz is Asuna's best friend
    Silica became friends with Liz, and doesn't seem to have many friends outside of the group
    Sugu is basically his sister and, incest crush or no, they both regret how they drifted apart in recent years and would like to remedy it
    and for Sinon, he was the only person who had her back in a literal life and death scenario. I haven't been in the military, but I've talked to enough guys who were to understand that you don't go through that without forming some kind of nigh unbreakable bond.
    I will say though, the games are not doing any favors in dispelling the harem accusations. As much as I love these games, they keep adding at least one (1) new girl in per game, and make all the girls romanceable. Now this does give us the actual best girl in the series, Kureha from Fatal Bullet, but that's not the point. Also FB is different from the other games, in that you're not Kirito, so saying the Kureha is best girl does not count as heresy, because you're not causing Kirito to end up with anyone who's not Asuna.

  • @Samsapopin
    @Samsapopin 4 месяца назад +1

    Just a minor correction, but the Fairy Dance arc (the arc where Kirito's sister is introduced) is actually the 2nd half of season 1.
    Anyway, I first watched SAO back in 2017-2018 when the Ordinal Scale came out on Blu-ray in the U.S. It was actually 1 of the first animes, I saw on Netflix & I gotta say, it's not as bad as the internet says it is. Yes, there are some stuff after the 1st season that makes me cringe (the harem stuff after Kirito gets Asuna, the disturbing scenes, & the Alicization anime adaptation cutting a lot of Asuna scenes), but there are stuff it has that I think are great (Asuna still being a badass after FD, kirisuna in general, & the movies) Hell, Ordinal Scale even pushes Kirito & Asuna's relationship even further to the point of a brighter future for them.

  • @empiricalpurity
    @empiricalpurity 9 месяцев назад +6

    I like it too.

  • @danjudex2475
    @danjudex2475 9 месяцев назад +9

    Pilgrims pass. I would honestly like to know your thoughts on sao abridged. Mainly considering that the series changes many aspects of the characters and to an extent the plot of the show; as well as how many anime fans see it as an “improvement” over the main series.

  • @worldofwarcraftman2
    @worldofwarcraftman2 4 месяца назад +1

    As much as I hate validator seasons I will admit watching the elf guy get totally fucking wrecked is the best.

  • @Cheattoe
    @Cheattoe 8 месяцев назад +1

    Sao was great when it came out had some decent half baked ideas and then just falls apart with that random murder mystery quest and that weird finale

  • @Player-re9mo
    @Player-re9mo 9 месяцев назад +7

    Personally I don't think the show was that bad. It was mostly mid with some bad parts. Kirito was too op no matter how you slice it. Even with the excuses like knowing kendo and being a beta tester, there should have been more players who were as powerful as him.
    Secondly I disliked how women instantly fell in love with him. And they don't even explain what they like about him (besides Asuna).
    I watched till War of the Underworld before I dropped it. The whole final battle made no sense to me. The good guys were supposed to be severely underpowered, and that was made very clear in Allicization!
    But the moment the battle starts the evil forces are wiped out in a few attacks and the "good guys" suffer next to zero losses. Some enemies had such a strong willpower that they broke the limitations of the game in order to win. But we can't have an enemy defeat a knight, no! So the enemy will lose because power of friendship!
    I could no longer stand it and left.

  • @Dar-oi3tw
    @Dar-oi3tw 4 месяца назад +1

    Loved this video Pilgrims Pass, I have been an SAO fan since the Eng Dub came out in 2013. I am so glad someone pointed out the positives of this anime and that the tropes is have are not actually there and are worse in other animes. The amount of RUclipsrs that I see, such as Mother's Basement, who hate this great anime have outnumbered those that have loved it for a great amount of time as the only ones I see appreciate it were Gamerturk and Foxen Anime. Hopefully more will not fall for the nonsense they are propagating.

  • @ZarloSkald
    @ZarloSkald 8 месяцев назад +3

    I understand your hatred for the alicization arc, due to that silly part of it, but I feel like the characters in that section of the show are when they are at their best. (That, and the GGO spinoff series).
    But, it's better you gave it all a try anyways. And I respect that!

  • @dirtyjack6300
    @dirtyjack6300 8 месяцев назад

    Hey, How does one join your discord?
    I've not yet found a way :(

  • @danielsurvivor1372
    @danielsurvivor1372 8 месяцев назад +1

    9:51 Looks brudda.
    It's because of looks most celebrities have so many more gfs then average guy

  • @walgekaaren1783
    @walgekaaren1783 9 месяцев назад +4

    I respect you for your honesty. Take care and keep up the good work

  • @hybrisschoch5467
    @hybrisschoch5467 3 месяца назад

    I would call the feeling Pilgrims Pass!

  • @Human_01
    @Human_01 9 месяцев назад +4

    Ikr? The series is largely responsible for my love for VR, and then looking into developing full dive tech that is as advanced as the nerve grear. Inspiration goes a long way, when it reaches the right people/audience (different effect, depending on the mind/consciousness that is paying attention to it). Reiki kawahara did wonders for my love for the virtual world! His series and him does not deserve the toxic hate that he got. "Mother's basement" (RUclipsr) is a short sighted piece of shxt (no pun intended [glasses]). That ah is a generic narcissit and hater (with a crabs in bucket mentality-pathetic, no benefits, only fleeting ego boost to the mind of an insecure and [evil] narcissit.
    /[Close] Rant.

  • @Adorni
    @Adorni 8 месяцев назад +2

    My suggestion is that you should watch Log Horizon. I’m not a fan of SAO, and I don’t say this in an effort to get you to “get better taste,” but because if you like the stuff _in_ SAO, I think you’d like Log Horizon.

  • @Jacob-hx7kk
    @Jacob-hx7kk 9 месяцев назад +3

    What do you think of SAO Abridged?

    • @PilgrimsPass
      @PilgrimsPass  9 месяцев назад +4

      haven't started yet. But I will. :)

  • @badadvice6276
    @badadvice6276 6 месяцев назад

    The first Isekai i ever read was called "Heir apparent" it was kinda like a cross between Sao, Re:Zero and game of thrones. Like it was metal as fuck for a young readers book.

  • @ReaglestOfEagles
    @ReaglestOfEagles 6 месяцев назад

    2:13 Klyne should've got more screentime.

  • @thefourthfrank8814
    @thefourthfrank8814 9 месяцев назад +10

    Ah, I’m glad someone can see the good in the show past the faults. I’ve always said that at its core it had interesting things to say about digital technology and society pertinent for a young demographic that would be interacting in those spaces to think about and that’s why it’s perfect to convey them through a show that would appeal to said demographic and anyone interested to look beyond its flaws. Thanks for the video

    • @ellugerdelacruz2555
      @ellugerdelacruz2555 9 месяцев назад +4

      The 1st Season was, even to many critics, an okay show. VERY FLAWED, but passable, maybe even on Chivalry of a Failed Knight levels...
      But then the second season...ugh...things just went downhill from there.

    • @MaxRavenclaw
      @MaxRavenclaw 8 месяцев назад

      @@ellugerdelacruz2555 Agreed, although I'd argue the last arc of S2 was probably the best I've seen of the series (only watched S1 and 2).

  • @grantcawby7225
    @grantcawby7225 9 месяцев назад

    Have you seen SAO Abridged by SWE? What is your opinion on it?

  • @siayvo
    @siayvo 9 месяцев назад +2

    You make a lot of valid points, but even so I can't watch SAO after the first haft of the first season, although I do enjoy the aforementioned half.

  • @flibbernodgets7018
    @flibbernodgets7018 9 месяцев назад +10

    It's a very interesting premise that was dragged down by uninteresting (in practice, not concept) characters and tired anime tropes. I vastly prefer the abridged version, as those characters are more interesting and, even if exaggerated in how awful they are, more relatable.

    • @subterranean327
      @subterranean327 9 месяцев назад +2

      The abridged version of SAO by Something Witty Entertainment is a masterpiece. I genuinely wish a more polished version of that abridged version WAS the official SAO.

    • @graceli1903
      @graceli1903 8 месяцев назад +1

      Man, knowing how hilariously overrated the abridged version is gives me second hand embarrassment after reading these comments. They're both trash lmao

  • @jonashartman3059
    @jonashartman3059 9 месяцев назад

    I'll be honest, SAO was my first anime. It set up a lot of things I enjoy about anime, and there are still moments that I rewatch and draw inspiration from. I think that for me, I did reach a point where I saw the hate online, and really agreed with it, and even now, I still think that it has a lot of narrative issues. But yes, many of the tropes that are present in SAO are present in other works, be they good or bad. I know for myself, that I found Log Horizon and Solo leveling to be two similar works that I really ended up enjoying, and they share quite a few tropes with SAO. So, maybe I’ll give SAO another chance…..maybe.😂

  • @narcispana9361
    @narcispana9361 8 месяцев назад

    As always, Great ramblings!

  • @scroletyper8286
    @scroletyper8286 9 месяцев назад +2

    I like SAO. Like the start of it and Gun Gale.

  • @theentmarch
    @theentmarch 9 месяцев назад +1

    as one who doesn't really enjoy anime because of said list of anime tropes listed in the video, I was surprised to see a wholesome relationship portrayed between Kirito and Asuna that ended up in them getting married. But the rest of the show though not bad, isn't spectacular by any means. I have only watched the first season and because I was satisfied enough with what I watched, but not impressed or interested enough to watch anymore I probably won't ever see the other seasons especially since a lot of people say that they continually get worse.

    • @yanhuideng8263
      @yanhuideng8263 8 месяцев назад

      Eh, the later parts are a mixed bag. I’d say that some parts are actually better, and other parts are worse.

  • @Mr.Savage
    @Mr.Savage 4 месяца назад

    You forgot the "Mother's Rosario" arc

  • @knightjamesii7757
    @knightjamesii7757 9 месяцев назад +2

    The primary reason I dislike SAO is not all the degenerate anime tropes. Rather for how insanely popular it was when it released despite its mediocrity. I think the reason it became as popular as it did was because it came out roughly around the time video games were *really* starting to become mainstream and popular as well as anime itself in the West. This perfect storm caused it to be a LOT of people's first anime and so it gets a lot of undeserved praise simply because it was the first one for a lot of people.
    I begrudgingly appreciate SAO for helping popularize anime in the West but it is by no means a good anime.

  • @SeaCow1g
    @SeaCow1g 8 месяцев назад +2

    I think Sword Art online was actually kinda good….in season 1. If it had ended there i’d have very little to complain about. Sure it’s wish fulfillment and a power fantasy but the show did have some good things to say and lots of wholesome moments. Season 1 was fine and ending was chefs kiss. After that I think it became pretty bad though. Everyone has a different breaking point and for me that was somewhere in season 2…..i still remember season 1 fondly though and recommend it to people, even after SAO became a meme.

  • @photonz1812
    @photonz1812 8 месяцев назад

    Also Klein saved Asuna and Kirito. Ep3 drop item.

  • @jeremiahjohnson2304
    @jeremiahjohnson2304 8 месяцев назад +1

    Absolute best explanation of SAO period. The only thing that got me is season 2 was horrible, I mean I watched it. gun gale online was okay but Alicization fixed it to me.

  • @nailin18
    @nailin18 9 месяцев назад

    9:38 I know right!

  • @Kuudere_Fanboy
    @Kuudere_Fanboy 9 месяцев назад +2

    Sword art online might have its fair share of problems, however, it is not as bad as some anitubers pretend it is.
    It depends more on from which perspective you look at this anime.

  • @bravedomon5268
    @bravedomon5268 9 месяцев назад +2

    We want legend of the galactic heroes analysis

    • @UnstopablePatrik
      @UnstopablePatrik 9 месяцев назад +1

      In every place, in every time, the deeds of men remain the same.

    • @bravedomon5268
      @bravedomon5268 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@UnstopablePatrik man i want to see it popular so hard 💀

    • @UnstopablePatrik
      @UnstopablePatrik 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@bravedomon5268 It's either my number one or number two favourite anime depending on my mood. GOATed forever.

    • @bravedomon5268
      @bravedomon5268 9 месяцев назад

      @@UnstopablePatrik yeah really great anime tho try zeta Gundam it's better

  • @hitandruncommentor
    @hitandruncommentor 8 месяцев назад

    Meanwhile me rewatching ghost in the shell stand alone complex. Then armatage the 3.

  • @cimerian85
    @cimerian85 8 месяцев назад

    Em The Faraway Paladin, até onde vi, a Igreja não é corrupta.

  • @Eilonwy95
    @Eilonwy95 9 месяцев назад

    I’m easily pleased, but I really loved SAO. Especially the first season. I’m pretty used to any of the objections people have from other anime.

  • @fadadioX
    @fadadioX 9 месяцев назад +4

    that was a damn good analysis for someone who has not read the light novels the anime is based on, I got nothing else to add because you hit the nail on every point