I promise I won't get political...
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
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Note: When I say "rule of the warrior class" in the video, I include the Citizen Soldier tradition which is necessary for a Free Republic. In line with Machiavelli's theory that whoever is in the ruling class should be master of arms whether a Prince or a Free Citizen. Just as the Founding Fathers intended. Heh. Just wanted to clarify that I'm not endorsing any particular political system but a political principle that can be present in all systems and which I think is necessary for the integrity and autonomy of a human society. And this is a well established idea in political science, so I'm not being as edgy as it might seem. Though I admit that deep down I have a ten year old in my soul who would love to "galavant around the wasteland like the knights of yore."
I fully agree with you on the ruling class and being armed but like Rome it will go down like this in the senate we dont allow "weapons" Caesar enters gets stabbed to death.
no system is perfect but when this one will be bloody like Super Bloody, Its like the USA super bloody even now.
im still up for it but you will have to have a culture that everyone needs to agree upon or you have hell on earth that we have today.
for this to work you need
ONE religion
ONE culture
ONE people
no one expect i think japan has this so gg, and they are a puppet of the US.
Are you white(of European origin)?
@@marcanton5357I think he mentioned his from 🇧🇷
@@renzmanzano4010 Yea, that's not what I'm asking now is it? There are white BR, native BR, black BR, mixed etc.
I'm not asking if he was born in the stables, I'm asking if he's a horse.
@@marcanton5357 Italian origin, now if that's white it depends on who you ask.
I don't know bro, I just think space marines are cool. Getting killed by a drone is pretty lame. : (
True. If we are to die in combat then at least let it be in a cool way like clashing swords 😔
Drones made war extremely gay.
@@2Potateslike gunpowder, and crossbows
Drunk debates are the best debates.
it really looks like me and my friend debating random things like theology, bodybuilding and politics in a phone call at 3 am. i loved it.
I love this. I got to find a drunk intellectual for myself.
Uncle ted wasn't wrong, so much as he focused exclusively on the darker side of human nature, in conjunction with the pace of technological advancement.
Everything he said will come to pass. Every last word. It's just that, it's not all that will come. He missed a lot of the story.
@@algorithmgeneratedanimegir1286 he did. I'm not sure if the emergence of crypto(bitcoin), 3d printing technology and the rising popularity of libertarianism/anarchism were because of his influence or independent of them. He didn't have the capacity to predict the willful rebellious nature of the human spirit, or that the rise of technological advancement doesn't just benefit the rich elites. It's a sort of arms race aimed to allow resistance.
I like all the points here thanks.
He was wrong and we're going to have space marines. Cry about it. Also he wanted to be trans, so opinion automatically disregarded for being cringe af
@@Basedpilledandtradmaxxed what an establishment-cock sucking thing to say.
Overall, not very based or trad of you.
Pilgrim you have a more long view with the future, but the guy on the right has a point to. In the short term 'guy on right' is correct; our supply chains have to get a lot shorter, more efficient, and maybe another magnitude of technological advancement of somekind to be maintained after any sort of collapse. Our current system is so dependent on being able to pull from everyone everywhere that I don't think we can maintain our current technology with any less people than we already have.
Population decline is set to happen basically everywhere and we are going to loose so much specialization from societies on the regional level going into survival mode. Once one nation does it other are gonna follow, then my own personal computer in my room is gonna be a Elite luxury thing rather than a common good the public at large can enjoy.
Alright thats basically all I "disagree" with your drunk self about, Ha! I agree with neo-medievalism as a long term trend. Everyone becoming amish to me is quitter talk.
If I'm being far to honest than is safe on the internet now-a-days, I do see some of our most current civilization being purposefully "Lost". Like we don't have totally 100% of all ancient knowledge of the Romans and Greeks. I do imagine some neo-luddite faction of whatever goes down in the nearish future going full, "the rivers will run black from the ink of all your lost works!"
I feel like I should be inebriated to not take this too seriously
Yeah, we are all harmless here. Please don't kill us all, god.
But secretly, we have to defeat god so that we can control our own fates or something.
@@BrickDaniels-qu7bz what is this a jrpg
@@kovacsnovak6745 Its ALWAYS been a JRPG!
I need the entire two hours of this please. Thank you!
9:30 Yes, it would be harder to get those resources, but there are still easily gettable resources, just in smaller amount. So if your society is generally smaller, you also need less resources, and you can still get those resources.
And another thing, this applies almost exclusively to fossil fuels. We still have craploads of other resources, like metals for example.
Every time resources have been hard to get it spurred us to invent a way to make it easier. Use what you can get to acquire what you can't. That's tool use in a nutshell.
We were tool users in prehistory; we were tool users in the Bronze age, and we'll be tool users after any future, hypothetically collapse and resurgence.
Another factor worth considering is human innovation. We could continue to discover new ways of doing more with less or coming up with new and more efficient technologies altogether. I'm not saying they don't have a point, but it kinda feels like they're operating on the assumption that our capabilities are limited to what we can do right now, that we've peaked and are incapable of improvement and incapable of compensating for future challenges. I might not understand them right, though.
Fossil fuels yes but I would argue that it's true of a lot of the rare earth minerals that make other types of power generation possible as well, a lot of them are only mined in a few places on the planet and therefore not get-atable after a global supply chain collapse. Power generation is the key to any kind of technological resurgence post-collapse. If we can't easily get fossil fuels anymore, and we can't get the materials to make solar panels or wind turbines, then we have no electricity, and thus we have no technological resurgence.
I love the idea of a legionnaire paraphrasing Teddy
that guy is right about the stock market though, the financial system is centrally controlled but pretends not to be. its a meat grinder gulag casino that sucks in resources and attention for no material or psychological gain.
Warriors are trained to find the enemy and destroy it. Without something to fight against, they would either turn against themselves or against society. Without an enemy, the warrior mentality cannot exist.
This is stupid because every society always has enemies. A warrior class would just turn on another form of enemy. Permanent war footing and meritocracy
Yes, that would turn into a forever war or a police state that is in battle against some group in the populace they deem enemy. Hunt the heretics and terrorists in your neighbourhood.
Just look at china. They cream their boiler suits on idea of storming Taiwan and fighting US but they actually don't want to go in war actually because that would be costly and would have chance of losing. So in meanwhile they keep othering some groups of people and wrong thinkers who would question the party. J
I’d be interested for you to make a video about Morality itself. I find it baffling to me that people consider morality subjective, when really Morality is objective strictly because it aligns with reality.
The question, then, is how do you identify and articulate objective morality that aligns with reality? I'm not disagreeing with you in the slightest, but that is the next most logical question in response to that statement.
Sorry for the extreme delay. To start tho, I’m interested why do you believe that Morality is subjective? To answer your question, I’m interested to hear your answer first and then provide mine reflecting on yours.
Thank Ford n Rockefeller foundation for making morals subjective. Clever bunch
Have you read “abolition of man”?
@@enigmaodell6806 only have heard of it. I beleive it's a C.S. Lewis work am I correct?
The title should have " FT. Tyler Druden"
I started watching the video, noticed a good deal of ideas were explored, thinking the video is almost over, only to click on the minimize button to see that I'm only 3 minutes in. How do you manage to stuff so much info into so little time
I myself am very pessimistic about technology, because I do see it as a great source for disrupting traditional customs and values.
The only reason we're discussing whether there are more than two genders is because we live in such luxury that society can survive and function to a large extent without recognising the inherent gender differences.
Technology also helps people forget their real problems and it's causes. Forget religion, it's technology which is the real opium of the masses. I do believe it can only function up to a point, if this nonsense gets too wide, it will have a destructive effect.
I am therefore more in the tradition of Frankenstein, the belief that technological innovation can lead us to a dark path.
In the West we are so terrified of losing our soldiers in battle that we want to replace them as much as possible with drones. I am not saying that the current wars are good, but the ethos the military brings when it comes to something like comradery and unity is virtuous and it reminds society that certain structures are important and essential.
It's the one place where the US government can somewhat see that wokeness can have a negative effect (their recruitment has dropped).
But if all soldiers were replaced by drones, then the elite would see no essential problem with wokeness.
But that is why I like PilgrimsPass. He has an optimistic view of uniting tradition and technology. It's good to know that there is an alternative against the anti-human technological trend, or at least that there are those who believe that upholding tradition and technology is possible.
Technology modern technology is like giving a baby an Uzi. All these new buzzwords are annoying.
Technological advancement has exsisted since the dawn of man and the vast majority of the time it has brought us good things like advance health care and machines no matter how many times we nuke each other over or how long some times will stagnate people will find a way to advance technology again and eventually reinvent what ever we have now, or if not better.
Also what traditions are you even talking about anyways?
@@ElishaFollet
See, I don't know what your values or beliefs are so I don't know the best way to make you understand were I am coming from. If you're a progressive or liberal, then you might see all the changes that have happened the last few decades as nothing but a positive.
I use traditions in a broad sense where it is not merely festivals, but anything that has been inherited and past down for generations. Traditions can go back a few decades or centuries and on rare occasions millenia.
If we take a less controversial element we can look at something like the Internett, video games, television and so on. Before, you would have social clubs, youth organisations and other social bonds that people could join in order to meet people. Friends and even marriage partners were created from this.
Now, with the advent of these new technological recreational ways, several people will rather stay inside, at home and not go out to meet new people. As a result, people who are more introvert will lose out on creating meaningful experiences with other people while extroverts will go to party clubs where the music is too damn large to meet anyone.
Instead of trying to arrange meetings with real people, people revert to the internett's social networks and use those communities to talk and interact. These platforms replace the function that the town square used to have in old times. The forum has been replaced by the internet forum.
As a result, you're more likely to make friends from across the world, many of whom you will never meet, than you are to have dinner with your next door neighbour.
In my own country, youth clubs and organisations has been severely reduced so that now, almost only sports clubs exist for youth to join. These are joined mostly out of a goal to stay in shape rather than meet friends. Before, you would have all kinds of clubs that people joined, but now hardly any.
The traditions of having a dinner with someone is also diminishing. Now, more and more food stores will market products as "cheap dinner for one!" or "cheap dinner alone!". This was unheard of before, but is more and more common these days because people are more and more lonely.
All of this is as a result of the technological development. There are many more other examples I could give, but seeing as I don't know your political beliefs, I am not sure if using those examples which I deem bad would turn into a discussion on the social development being good or bad, than technology being bad.
I am not saying there hasn't been some improvements as well. Technology has undoubtedly made life easier and it has cured diseases which were fatal. I am not unthankful for everything technology has brought us. What I am saying is that there seems to be an inevitability with technology which destroys more and more what it means to be human and I am scared of what such technology will do to us if it isn't dealt with in a way.
That's what I mean when I am in the tradition of Frankenstein. I am scared of what the powers technology will give us and how it will change us, especially when people are no longer raised in virtious enviroments which believes in limits.
@@ANorwegianPenguin I think I can understand were your coming from as a center leftist I view technology as a double edge sword type of deal, one were we have benefited far more than what people often think, allot of what people fear tends to far more exaggerated than whats actually happening, like the tv dinner example you have given, tv dinners have been a thing for decades already, my family used to buy some and eat em on certain nights were it's late and needed a quick meal, and as for the social media thing, people still meet up quite often but usually at places were it's cheaper or free since sports clubs tend to be expensive or they can't afford it much, and as for what technology might do to us really depends on what the person who controls it wants to do to you or what you want to do to yourself, like giving yourself cat ears for example.
technology is but an extension of our soul, it carries our sins and our virtues. What's twisted is our soul, and our technological devices just reflect this. And I think you'll agree with me Pilgrim, that there is no way that humanity alone can purify themselves. Also, progress is a power by itself, if we don't progress, someone else will do it in our stead and conquer us.
This might be the most beautifully worded comment I've ever seen
This is wonderful in so many ways.
You are pretty much talking about the Dark Age ending of Deus Ex 😆
I always enjoy really nerdy and autistic conversations with the bros.
I recently moved and this made me miss my friends 🤣
PilgrimsPass, could you in the future make a video about about Brazil? or the future you see with private city states, network states or powerful ethnic diaspora's (future guild like associations like the Afrikaner Sakeliga) in line with your view of rising neo-medievalism. As someone who resides in the anglosphere, South America has always been of interest and I would love you take on either topic
Sounds good.
There's a lot of clickbait out there purporting to show someone being "owned by facts and logic", but you actually delivered here.
17:40 "his some homeless guy i found inder the bridge" depending on what ending in new vegas this could be a possibility
A lot of fascinating ideas, thanks for sharing
Sir, you put Fallout New Vegas in one of your videos.
I beg you for a Joshua Graham video please.🙇♂️🙏
I second this motion.
7:20 I love this debate of Technology vs Training.
How to beat a inferred Done if you can’t see it? Make it not see you by lowering/raising the surrounding area’s temperature to be equal/lower/higher than a human body.
How to beat a drone patrol that comes around every 5 minutes taking video of everything on their path to compare to their last run by 5 minutes ago. Fuck up everything on their path to slow them down.
How do you beat a group that has the key to everything you digitally done, use and gonna use? Go primitive and avoid using anything digital.
Back and forth, back and forth
I find myself agreeing more with the legion guy.
Ave true to Caesar
Would you not say the system and rulers are synonymous with each other
And there he went putting it uncut on the interweb for everyone to see the autism 😂
Two lads sipping alcohol and talking about politics and philosophy and stuff.
Absolutely based.
Yes. More of whatever this is.
😂 This was playfully insightful and had my stomach in pain.
At least Ted was right about the left.... and the right, we all suck just in different ways.
We're all livestock of some sort, most of us just can't see the assembly line.
This is the way it's always been. They are rather optimistic about historical living conditions. Most people lived and died in abhorrent poverty, without reproducing, and never achieving any kind of "self actualization." Really, even though our society is objectively on the decline and about to collapse, we still have it really good compared to that. Because no, you wouldn't be a noble lord or "warrior," you'd be a serf or slave.
@@algorithmgeneratedanimegir1286true I honestly think this pilgrim dude is a tad bit delusional and ignorant himself tbh.
@@algorithmgeneratedanimegir1286 Same mistake everyone makes when they're considering possible shakeups to existing power structures. They always think they're so clever that they'll definitely be in the new ruling class instead of being in the 99.9% of people who don't have it so good. Medical technology alone means we (in the developed world at least) have it way better than anyone historically did regardless of how broken the current system may be. Forget being in the .1% elite or even the 99.9% serfs, many of us wouldn't have survived childhood without technology because we'd die of polio or smallpox or cholera or measles or dysentery or the common fucking flu or any of hundreds of other diseases that people in society just don't die of anymore.
4:45 evola liked it
Another great video, I was wondering if you'd go over starship troopers' terran federation in greater detail in the future?
thank you. Eventually but i'd like to prepare myself for that one.
I wish I could talk to you about this subject because I have a lot of thoughts about it.
The Brotherhood-Legion Debate that we’ve been waiting on for years… And the degenerate NCR is nowhere to be seen ❤️
Very interesting conversation! I also like the comment section here. I don't agree with everything you say, but I am subbed because you provide an interesting alternative outlook.
Speaking of Fallout, have you guys heard of American Krogan's Fallout 4 mod? Grounded Commonwealth, I think it's called. It would be interesting to hear your thoughts.
Goddamn, I wish two 4% ciders would work that well on me
The point at 17:00 was really funny and true.
Fiat currency and global economic demands determining whatever you do in your entire day is way crazier than commissioning engineering ok behalf of some elves you've never met personally
This is why you can't ally the brotherhood and legion in new vegas
LOL! Oh man, this is the epitome of NERD!
The BOS guys take is literally me af
That's what you get when you don't know Hegelian dialectics( A standard part of the curriculum in the Legion, as I've heard).
If the end goal is a ruling class that puts value on the human aspect, it seems to me the only options are Warrior or Religious in nature.
Points on the warrior class in a neo feudal world.
I think that they are definitely incentivised to maintain a human element to their world in regards to combat. To maintain the predominance of their role and to limit others from accessing tech is a major component of that control of their social class. It's hard to see much development happening during this time beyond countering designs and creating a more stable platform or tech. Simplicity is a benifit to this time period, and maybe holdouts of high end tech could remain but the knowledge and the infrastructure required to maintain it will be lost over time.
Society would be better served by a warrior class rather than the deracinating force of the financial classes, where humanity and production is about pure financial efficiency if people can be paid 12 cents per hour less than another they'll do that, but if a machine can run on half that they'll be more than happy to sideline any amount of people. This in turn will create instability in society and whether we are forced into mega cities to maintain us or left out of the emerging technology society remains to be seen. I very much think they cannot let people live outside their power and influence as it could create alternative powers and competition which they after securing their position at the top of the world will allow to happen.
Warriors are trained to find the enemy and destroy it. Without something to fight against, they would either turn against themselves or against society. Without an enemy, the warrior mentality cannot exist.
This was quite enjoyable!
15:48 that’s such a legion thing to say
The ruling class being bureaucrats or managers is called the ideological extension of having a representative democracy expressed in other aspects of the systematic institutional, make up running within the defined borders of said government and don’t you forget that
is that what they have in china? actually entrenched bureacracies are a threat to representative democracies. Because you don't elect the bureacrats in the DNC who refused to give Bernie the Democrtatic Primary victory. and it looks like you forgot that. And I saw your original comment, and am glad you reworded things more politely.
What’s the reason to say that the warrior is the only class that is incentivized to keep control of technology?
Thanks for asking. I get into the idea more in my first super soldier video, but my reasoning is that the key to autonomy, freedom and security of your life is the ability to defend yourself and your mastery of arms. Which is why Democracies and Free Republics are based on the citizen soldier tradition. in a highly technological era the competitiveness of human warriors may be compromised depending on how technology develops. If it is compromised then all of humanity suffers a probable loss of autonomy and we'll be subject to whatever replaces us. (Either fully autonomous drones, or barely human modified post-human beings. synthetic organic xenobots etc). The increasing growth of technology increases the possible threats to humanity's autonomy by creating possible new competition for humanity itself. And out of the 4 power classes, (Merchant, Warrior, Priest and Bureaucrat) the warrior is the one with the most inbuilt incentives to preserve human power over technology because they are humans and their power is connected to human competitiveness as warriors. This means they'll naturally adopt technologies that empower them as humans (and through them humanity is empowered) while being skeptical or hostile to tech that threatens that. While the other classes don't have this inherently built in. The merchants will do whatever is profitable even if to the detriment of the human form, The bureaucrats will do whatever increases their control and as brain machine interface increases (brain chips and such) they'll have some nefarious fun with that. (China is totally run by the bureaucratic class, so just see how they're using tech already.) And the Priest class is more tricky. (either they are completely pro-human but are not adept in the use of tech and might ban technology that makes humans competitive in their difficulty to understand tech as a class, or they'll be some weird gnostic tech cult that wants to "ascend humanity" by destroying it and turning it to something else.) Now these are just broad tendencies that I'm describing. The warrior class might go post-human to become death machines but even in that scenario they'll employ tech that is easily and reliable applicable to their human form and which them powerful but autonomous and that path although still a problem will naturally slow the development of post-human inducing tech since the warriors will have to ensure its safe before they hook themselves up to this stuff. (At least in theory.)
And these ideas of mine are applicable to democracy or republic. Because this applies to citizen soldiers too. Which means a citizen soldier empowered to vote keeps his vote depending on military duty and if the government creates too many competitive autonomous drones the citizen soldier will understand that this is a threat to his franchise. At the same time though, the warrio will not ONLY ban tech, but incentivize the development of NEW tech and depend on empowering tech that can then improve the human condition, since the warrior does need tech to fulfill his purpose. So the warrior class the class with the most in built positive relationship with tech when it comes to our species. He'll need to be paired with the Priest class though (which includes academics and philosophers) to mantain a pro-human outlook and not want to go post-human and defend the freedom of human individuals by seeing human freedom as sacred.
I hope that answers your question.
@@PilgrimsPass I’m gonna have to rewatch spine videos and get back to you here but before I do:
Where are ypou getting the 4 classes from? I’d come to something similar on my own, but with some differences ou can expand on later.
Also I’d recommend looking into selectorate theory, it makes a compelling point that (although not the main point of the book) the rulers of a nation behave largely the same once in power despite any superficial differences
@@leesnotbritish5386 thank you for the reccomendation. As for where I got the 4 classes from, its adapted from asian class systems. The Chinese 4 occupations, the Indian Cast system and the Japanese Feudal class system. But its also adapted from the European medieval class system as well as from other cultures. These 4 classes tend to show up everywhere, organically in all cultures from mesoamerica to Africa. But I also took a lot of influence from James Burnam's "The Managerial Revolution" I highly reccomend that book.
To the level of technology we have and the incentive of those within the system striking down let's say Luddites or isolationists will get greater their demands for markets and labour will eventually require them to stop people leaving them system. An individual could leave society but a family no real loss the system will keep going but withdrawing the support for the technocratic system in a larger and larger way will push them to force us in a more overt way to comply with it.
Sure it's not right now but we stand at a point in history where the competence and ability to maintain the system is being pushed harder than it ever has before. The competency of the individuals within society is dropping skills required to maintain the basic building blocks of society are not being maintained or are to difficult for the average person within society to attain, that in conjunction with the demographic situation the technological world is facing(largely the Western world) is pushing people who otherwise would maintain the system away infavor of the diverse.
It's good to see cracks forming, yet I don't believe it's going to be a massive collapse it will be a gradual reduction of technology in favour of simpler tech for the masses and high lines of tech and development for those who can afford it. It will be a stratification of tech that will come to define the next say 20 to 30 years. Gene sequencing and manipulation tools such as CRISPR will be the new line of tech that will come to prominence above all in my eyes.
I feel like Michael Jackson eating popcorn
This was very interesting.
Who’s your legion friend?
Thank you, he's a friend from before the channel.
@@PilgrimsPass Okay cool. Thanks 👍
Anyone ever play _Scorn_ by Ebb Software? I may be a wee bit tipsy (had some wine to go along with this dialogue) but, I think _THAT_ may be how we control technology. All this modern shit requires rare earth metals and iron for steel along with concrete for infrastructure and petroleum for insulation, fuel, and a bunch of other components but, you like, have to crush hundreds of thousands of tons of ore and rock to get that shit and it corrodes and ain't self-repairing but tissue, bone, and sinew? What if we trans-sarkicize technology so it becomes a functional biopunch reflection of us and can be generated entirely from sustainable organic biomass? We could GROW buildings made of genetically modified human tissue, lit by bioluminescent fibroblasts, controlled by sprawling nervous systems, secured by muscle powered doors and closed neural eye vision, water and solid waste carried by macro circulatory systems and further processed by industrial nephrons and hepatocytes? We could connect them all with a larger system of ducts that forces hydrocarbon waste down into the watery reservoirs where oil fields once lay and let naturally processes of pressure and heat gradually reform our crap into new hydrocarbon concentrates pumped back up to the surface to feed our self-sufficient superorganism!
We'd have to do a lot of genetic engineering but, with advancement in biocomputation, ever successive generation of bone-gear Babbage engines and bioservers would get faster and soon we'd have nature working out where to lay arterial pipes and how to best organize nerve nets like the fungus which already out-competes almost every test animal in mazes and puzzles.
THE HUMANIFICATION OF WHAT WAS ONCE COLD, LIFELESS STEEL AND UNCARING STONE! A SPLICED AND LIFED ARCHITECTURAL MANIFESTATION OF GOD THROUGH US, HIS FAVORED RACE!!!
That finale, lol
Where can i find full conwersation?
You should read stuff like Julia Evola bc you seem to be asking kinda meta questions about society and generally early fascist literature was basically that I would also say very funny seen the legionary take the legion position. The technology cannot out peace tradition. I’m just wondering where is the enclave in this question
Partially agree, but, those questions here are more suited for the philosophy of Ernest Junger than Evola.
@@nikolajignatiev6323 I read more political theory or theology style than general philosophy
@@josepigroyper370 Oh well, That old warrior Junger would probably not appeal to you. Spoiler: He is not philosopher in that sense, he lived through the most bloody battles in WW1 and understood some things.
Tipsy Pilgrim is pretty funny.
neo-medievalism with a warrior rulling class... long term is all i think of when i'm talking with my friends. is insane.
Wow, I didn’t realize you were part of the Zoomerverse.
the what?
It Exists
Why I didn't join the Legion?
15:56
I got drunk to type this. How about we just don't have ruling classes?
Thank you
Ad Victoriam for the Win.
Neo-crusader teim? 👁👁
Go ahead and try it Christcuck.
Yall both missed an important reality, there is physical technology and spiritual technology, all the philosophical and spiritual thoughts and practices are a form of technology that are necessary precursors to physical technology. To focus on physical technology too much is to stagnate in spiritual technology.
Logical fallacy. All militaries are bureaucracies. How would a warrior class change that?
Please make a a video about the new up-and-coming storm with bricks signing 11 more countries. That's the real political issue of a generation
Ave true to Caesar
Boomers are the last to know the details of technology? Which one? Certainly not computers. Certainly not machinery, like engines. Certainly not architecture. So what kind of technology is that?
Usually when you read reports about these things its in infrastructure or energy.
@@PilgrimsPass Where are you from? Because where I live (Czech Republic), there are many young people in these technology resorts. My best friend is a research engineer in the field of hydrogen pipelines, so I think I have a good enough information source...
LOL
I am 66th person to like this video!
Dunno why, but that was important to me!
that's important to me too. thanks!
Weird how a drunk dude talking in a podcast on the internet who's afraid of nukes has the gull to claim the younger generation are nothing but anxious and unable to act.
Cognitive dissonance in motion.
Bro, Sparta wasn't a good place to live. I don't think you really understand what you're asking for.
switzerland
I'm not asking for Sparta. Sparta is just used as an example of certain aspects for a state. including the modern nation state. several thinkers used it in this manner from Plato, to Machiavelli to Rousseau and they weren't advocating for a slave based society run by traumatized children. Except maybe Plato. I don't agree with Rousseau however, or in an overly centralized state. I was referring mostly to the citizen soldier tradition. The reference to Sparta though was a passing referrence. I agree with you about it. I sympathize more with notions of chivarly, Noblese oblige, and the idea of a martial free citizen espoused by Thomas Jefferson.
I am not so sure if the idea of a ruling class defining the way society is will be an accurate concept in the future. As the global, profit driven economy probably will have to redefine its values to be sustainable above all else due to the impending climate crisis, society might, after a first collapse, be able to really prosper.
Technology may be used to maximize efficiency and quality for providing all basic human needs, and the principle of sustainabilty would prohibit the production of all the for society as a whole practically useless goods that are produced today by modern age slavery for the sole sake of profit. This would finally make room for real, purposeful advancements in technology, education
and tradition. The priority is no longer to accumulate the most power and wealth, but to improve the human condition and empowering the individual to become a well educated, specialised
and wise member of society. The ruling class would maybe still be the bureaucrats as you would call it. But they would be kept in check by the people and institutions as in a true democracy.
I am aware this sounds pretty naive and simplistic, but if the collapse of our current society hits just about right and we as a species draw the right conclusions about our downfall,
I don't think it's entirely impossible ^^
It's not that I believe we'll just magically change our nature. Of course our brains have evolved a certain way and will stay that way relative to our timescales. However the circumstances which the brain is confronted with, might change in a way that allows or even requires us to change our behaviour aswell. The fact that thinkers like Pilgrims Pass exist, is a testament to the brains capabilities to evolve this way, given the right circumstances.
Those circumstances may be exceptional right now, but that is a product of our history not a law of nature.
Climate is not our most pressing concern. Not even close.
Ide rather not live through a societal collapse tbh, there's no guarantee that your country is gonna survive or just get annexed into pieces by your enemy's or use to be alies, and trying to survive in a commune and having to fight off waves of bandits all while also trying to survive in a hellish wasteland for the rest of my life just sounds like a massive miserable NOPE, and even if your country some how manages to rebuild itself after its destruction you have no idea who or what political powers are going to take charge.
@@ElishaFollet of course I'd too rather not witness/experience such a catastrophe. But a collapse or just a major crisis to some extent might just be inevitable, all things considered.
The bureaucratic elite has already decided to impose itself with an environmental agenda at the expense of the weak and the poor.
tbh i think pilgrim is becoming more and more wrong in his analysis. He's merging with the progressive world views instead of rejecting them
which ones?
Your recent takes on ukraine and this have showed your belief that the western hegemon will continue to advance and progress in technology and continue to lead the world, believing that the current age will continue and or evolve. Thus your belief(s) has merged with progressive worldview, that the west (and thus humanity) will continue to progress technology and society.
In Brazil progressives are pro-Russia in the conflict. While non-progressives tend to be more pro-Ukraine. And this is true in many other countries because Russia is supporting the entire marxist power structure in Latin America. So when it comes to a real war with geopolitical implications its not about your culture war. Is Pole a progressive for being pro-Ukraine? of course not.
As for my views on technology. Proper technological development is itself based on tradition. Historically, highly traditional societies have had a tendency to be at the centers of great technological change. From Portugal and Spain who did not have the renaissance and were engaging in maritime innovations while being thoroughly medieval in mindset and still had inqusitions, to the Victorians in England to the USA becoming less secular during the cold war and having a revival of some traditional thinking during the cold war and having more technological innovations than the soviets who actually based their entire system on progressive thinking. I actually get into this on my next video.
this is just a limited take on a drunken convo tho so what do i know
please forgive me for being pedantic.