For my alternative Alteisen full clear guides with no iframing needed, check out the below! Noah + BIscuit: ruclips.net/video/L5OC-WM78ms/видео.html Ludmilla + Sakura: ruclips.net/video/ICTY2MXkjm8/видео.html
2:10 Explaining where the missiles land on either the left or right side is actually a great way to explain how the i-frame happens because the missiles are technically missing her
Thanks! I sometime prefer tracking missiles this way, since amidst all the on screen SFX, I sometimes lose count of the missiles and need to dodge based on the positioning alone
No problem! You can try out some of these other guides and team comps I made: Noise & Diesel: ruclips.net/video/xyo8bJ_7HME/видео.html Biscuit & Noah: ruclips.net/video/L5OC-WM78ms/видео.html
Here's the "no need to think hard" explanation at 2:15 If the missiles are targeting on the right it means you need to hide, if it's on the left then you need to change to attack position
@@SquishyRollingPandahi squishy hope you read my comments, around a week ago i managed to survive Alteisen for 3 minutes, seems like you can trick the turrets to shoot the cover instead shooting at Noise ruclips.net/video/G5XnJdZ8GNc/видео.html i upload it but it's still kinda hard for the timings, can i get your opinion about it? Sorry video got cropped because battery at 5% and recorder suddenly stops recording
You can actually guarantee that the turrets won't hit noise. As soon as the the 12th green missile lands, immediately move into the attack position so that you can dodge the turrets. Dunno how that works exactly tho but it works for me 100% of the time.
That's a fantastic tip & catch! If someone is lacking DPS, it would be better to focus down the left turrets first, since dodging the missiles are easy and doesn't rely on any burst skills
@@SquishyRollingPanda yeah, I don't have Scarlet and trying to do this strat. But turrets sometimes finish me before I finish them. Will try Diesel support
@@M4L1y Pretty cool to see the i-frame in action. I have some guild members who also i-frame the turret, but the timing varies slightly based on what platform you play on - similar to what the person in your video mentions
@@SquishyRollingPanda I tried and did 59.6mln. Failed at 2nd phase and Noise got killed. Next time I'll try to beat him and will succeed for sure. 2nd try
There also Noise the double turrets which i always did This making the II position can be used for Novel / Viper / or other II that helps your attacker So you need to timing it right when the double turret shoot, Noise changed position different FPS (mobile or pc) has different timing... on pc i usually timing it as Noise got hit with the last green missile... but she dodge the turrets (both turrets still alive but deal 0 damage) then after the turret missed, focus on the turret, AND the front turret (most left in your aim) and keep dodging the green missiles The drawback using this method is, your mental health (i mean seriously lol) ngl, just from today, i needed more than 45 minutes of restarting since i missed the timing of the turrets lol... only 3x i successful dodge it into the phase 2... 2 times i failed and resetting on 2nd phase, the last time i cleared it...
Haha yeah, dodging the turrets were always something very difficult for me, so I made this guide (and the Noah + Biscuit video) as an alternative instead. Will also be releasing my Ludmilla + Sakura guide later this week After watching some of my past recordings, I sometimes was unintentionally able to dodge it. But I have not been able to do it consistently, so I haven't posted a video to cover this. And as you mentioned, the framerate changes the exact timing which is super frustrating! But I'm glad you brought this up! It's a unique challenge for those that want to try it out!
Another PC tip that allows you to destroy the 1st or even both Turrets on the 1st full burst(Depending on your dps) is to set your screen to widescreen resolution to increase your FOV. This can be achieved by using Nvidia Control Panel or a similar program that allows you to customize your screen's resolution.
Awesome tip! I didn't know that I could force a widescreen resolution. There was definitely some downtime where I couldnt see the turrets and spent time shooting the train's body instead
Click the "locked skin icon" in the mission pass rewards section, or go to Nikkepedia Costumes (Nikee icon in the bottom right -> Nikkepedia button in the top right -> Costumes tab). You can buy the costumes from there, or go to the cash shop and click the "hangar" icon
Quick update after trying this. I was able to get to stage 7 for the first time. I was having some trouble destroying the turrets fast enough, but I guess I need to level up my Nikkes skills. Mine are at similar CP to yours, but my Scarlet is still only at 25k power.
Awesome that you reached a new stage clear high! Other little tricks on destroying the turrets from some of my viewers include: ムケエ: (I'm paraphrasing here) If you play on PC, you can force an extra long widescreen resolution to increase your FOV, making the turrets visible more often/all the time MaJlblu: At 3:07, I could focus on the other turrets to the left, instead of destroying the rocket launcher on the right
@@SquishyRollingPanda I will just keep leveling my Nikkes skill and affection for more DPS. One important that I did not do was using Modernia's burst first to delay the 2nd burst until the turrets were about to shoot so that the timing was better on my bursts. I mostly play on the phone, so just switching it to wide mode is enough for me. Timeauss used the exact strat on his stream today after he malded 3 hours using Makima and Biscuit and found this way easier than that strat lol. Biggest switch was the order and the timing was better. I hope he gives you a shout-out since a lot of us were saying that we saw this on your channel first.
@Masked Heretic Haha, I'm just checking out his VOD now - glad some of you guys shouted me out in chat, thank you! 😃 Doing some testing tonight with Biscuit + Noah and other comps. But I think Noise + Diesel is a solid choice, especially since most people should have Diesel.
Sin may work against the green missiles - but it is all based on managing their ammo, as their taunt triggers only on the last shot. A more consistent replacement is Noah, since her taunt mechanic for basic attacks is the same as Noise. Nikkes with a burst taunt, such as X Rupee can replace Diesel. If you only have T8 equipment, I recommend focusing on dodging the green missiles (full length video here: ruclips.net/video/sKkNz1TuF8I/видео.html). Don't sweat getting a high stage clear on Alteisen for now, it is the hardest interception boss out of the 5.
Almost there! Can you can also try out these other methods I put together (which require no-iframing/dodging): Biscuit & Noah: ruclips.net/video/L5OC-WM78ms/видео.html Sakura & Ludmilla: ruclips.net/video/ICTY2MXkjm8/видео.html
You can try turning off "Skill Cutscene Settings" in the "Battle" options menu. Aside from that, I suggest visually tracking the missiles featured @ 02:10
Hi, thanks for the video, but could you help me? i can kill modernia, chatterbox, etc, no problem but this damn train I cant get past the turrets (BULLETS), I have my nikke at level 160 i dont have modernia, doro, scarlet. I have only redhood, alice, maxell, snow white, pepper and bunny, school girls (others but level 1 skills). I dont have overloaded gear either. thanks in advance.
As you get more OL gear (crystal modules) from the other bosses, it will help you beat Alteisen! The turret guns are essentially a DPS check - you need to destroy them faster than they can decimate your team
I tried so hard on dodging the missiles, but somehow noise still got hit by the turret, but i pass the first phase, now on the second phase somehow my reload timing on scarlet and modernia is bad i cant clear all the missiles and diesel died, and so does the qte, i can tank the qte once since i still have cover left, but having noise died from turrets and diesel from phase two missiles make me unable to burst, resulting in a time up on reward tier 8
Yeah, the reloading can catch me off guard sometimes. When you have a chance, force your Nikkes into cover to make sure Scarlet is ready for the missiles/QTE in phase 2
bro having wide screen is such a big advantage, i saw on yt that some guy only has like 67k power and able to defeat alteisen with a big goofy ahh long screen while me who has about 90k power couldn’t defeat it because of i cannot hit the turret far enough.
Haha for sure! ムケエ mentioned that you can actually force an extra-widescreen via your GPU control panel settings, so you can hit the turret at all times
Loved the video! and the explamnation. one question, for people who dont have litter what B1 nikkes could they use? again thank you and your previous vid helped me get the noise I-frame trick. in the End what was the T9 gear buff are you talking bout?
Thank you! Glad to hear that the videos are helping out! As replacements for B1 Liter, it depends on what aspect of her you want to substitute. N102 - Provides a decent attack buff on burst Volume - Provides a faster burst cycle (+ crit dmg boost as a bonus) The gear buff is from the Dev's note, March edition: nikke-en.com/newsdetail.html?content_id=6419c903a4684a4f1da814eab849341c17cf "First, we plan to add a device in Interception EX that T9 manufacturer equipment can be randomly obtained....Moreover, we are currently preparing events in which Commanders can obtain extra rewards in Interception and Simulation Room within a specific time."
Excellent question! The main issue is that Noah can't dodge properly, but there is a viable strategy using her. I cover this in my video here: ruclips.net/video/t14-ecyPp2E/видео.html
My top 5 candidates would be: 1) Modernia: BRRRRRRRR 2) Drake: All around excellent consistent DPS + skill 1 that buffs everyone during full burst. Decent burst generation due to SG 3) Guilty: Even at 0LB and 4/4/4 skill level, she deals tons of damage with her skill 1, as it leverages your strongest until 4) Laplace: Bonus damage when attacking boss parts. Insane damage when burst skill is activated. But burst must be timed properly, or else it is wasted (such as during phase 2 of the fight) 5) Snow White: With decent investment in her burst skill + timing + skill, you can hit all 3 boss parts at the same time (right between the 2 turrets and missile launcher) and do 3x the damage
@@SquishyRollingPanda great, I have Drake Core+1 with an Overloaded gear. Also have Snow White but I don’t think she’ll help with rockets raining from the sky 😭 but I’ll try that trick. Tysm
If you want try out snowwhilte and how to deal with the "rockets ranning" you can check out this video from Japanese youtuber: PESU MY ruclips.net/video/XO_MkgTktbo/видео.html
@@senjo8169 That's a pretty cool vid! I never thought about dodging the rockets at the very beginning (since Scarlet's burst destroys them for me). You can even dodge the rockets during phase 2 of the fight! Snow White's burst is pretty nutty, since you can hit the boss 3 times with 1 shot. With the right skill/equipment/LB investment, I've seen some plays go straight to phase 2 after 1 shot.
you must have scarlet or harran/ modernia to clear 2ed phase you can full wipe missles hit the circle and kill the next round of missles with a your full burst repeat
Hey Panda, just wondering how you manage to affix your crosshairs to your mouse as shown in the video? I have to keep manually holding LMB and dragging my cursor from the bottom of the screen, which makes aiming a complete pain for this stage when it's so notoriously timing-sensitive.
@@SquishyRollingPanda That's even sadder, I don't have Noah also hahaha. My line up consist of Liter, Centi, Modernia, Rapunzel and Privaty. Though I have Makima and Diesel but the taunt is just way easier with Noise compare to the other two I mentioned.
Just use makima ez win for me. Just need a little bit luck on the turret and some good dps . My team : Moder , Power , Makima ,Viper ,Liter (no need dodge trick on makima if u got around 24k attack nikke)
In short, the last patch inadvertently changed how taunting works, but it will be reverted. Essentially, once the red circles appear, the enemy has already locked on to a target and it will not change, regardless of any taunt mechanics. Previously, you can use taunt right up to the point before the projectiles are fired. Devs will be fixing this
I was trying to do this for hours but had to give up in frustration. The small turrets kill Noise every time right after the first dodging part is over
You do still need enough DPS to kill the turrets eventually, as she can't tank for far too long. I made videos featuring other team comps for this boss that can help!
@@SquishyRollingPanda yeah, I'm back trying this boss again and the same problem persists even though I can break 1 of the turrets before they fire. The other one still 1 shots Noise
Scarlet is replaceable with other high DPS Nikkes, that have been invested in, such as: Laplace, Drake, Sugar Liter is a bit tough. While N102 also has a team attack buff, Liter has the added benefit of reducing full burst cooldowns (i.e. more DPS in the long run)
idk why even after the taunt, the missiles still target random spots and my noise cant i frame all the missiles that are coming randomly and not 1,2,3,4 and so on
It sounds like since Noise didn't taunt from the start, it made the rhythm of the missiles harder to follow Make sure to fully charge Noise's attack and hit the train before the green missiles are fired. This will ensure that she is taunting from the very beginning and it will be easier to follow the 1, 2, 3, 4 pattern
@@SquishyRollingPanda I did that Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't Well practice makes perfect But I don't have much time on games lol Guess I'll leave it casual Never gonna defeat alteisen
If you have Noah & Biscuit, Noah can taunt + tank - and Biscuit can provide additional invincibility. I have a video that explains this method here: ruclips.net/video/L5OC-WM78ms/видео.html Just theory crafting, but Ludmilla + Biscuit may be possible as well. Your team will need to full burst (to activate Ludmilla's taunt) slightly before the first green missile spawns and do your best to dodge them. When the turrets start to shoot Ludmilla, Biscuit's invincibility skill should activate (provided that Ludmilla did not take too much damage during the green missile phase) while the rest of your team destroys the turrets
Hi. ¿Can the boss be repeated even after defeated? For example in tribe tower one can not repeat a stage when cleared and doing one of these daily give points for rewards in mission pass.
Yes - you can fight the boss up to 3 times per day! After your first attempt, you have access to the "Quick Battle" button, which gives you the same clear/rewards as your best attempt that day. Fighting the boss manually or using "quick battle" counts towards your mission pass progress, "Clear interception X times"
I tryed.... still dont know how to difference good the turrets shoots... i feel i cna only difference them when they get almost hitting, hating this boss so much :c
For my alternative Alteisen full clear guides with no iframing needed, check out the below! Noah + BIscuit: ruclips.net/video/L5OC-WM78ms/видео.html Ludmilla + Sakura: ruclips.net/video/ICTY2MXkjm8/видео.html
Been trying so hard to defeat this boss so many times, nothing I do works. Noise always dies after the first burst. This game is harder than I thought.
@@SquishyRollingPanda Depends, it's either one. Even if she survives, the canons or the missiles will get her. Maybe I need to level up more and build my relationship. I've only been playing this game for a week. XD
Ah I see. I think you're fighting, "Level D: Altrisen MK.VI", which is the same boss, but with a more limited attack pattern. New players will beat that boss eventually, as their team, skills, attraction and equipment levels up. But if you have characters such as Makima/Noah/Biscuit who have invincibility skills, it will buy you more time to destroy the turrets. Good luck!
Must be doing something wrong on my end. By the time the second turret is down the missiles start to ignore Noise and just go straight for Liter. I'll figure it out eventually, thanks for the guide!
@@SquishyRollingPanda yeah, i took a few seconds to use my eyes and read that her ability works with full charge. I see now however that I'm just not winning out on the DPS race on the next set of turrets. Diesel sometimes also dies after the first turret goes down. Think I'll try my hand at pulling Sakura at this point.
My real question here is...do we really need to do this? is this intended? why do we have to glitch the fight in order to beat it? it would be better if they balance the damage output of the turrets and make the fight actually enjoyable.
That's a fair question - one that I've asked myself before as well! I would imagine that the devs tuned the boss' difficulties, so that we make incremental process each week. Similar to my interception S experience, when I first got access to it, I barely made a dent. But each week, I received better gear, level, stats...etc and made more progress. But to your point, Alteisen in particular feels VERY overtuned. With the indestructible green missiles, I can't imagine how much LB health/gear you need, in order to tank them. The whole attack/targeting system for this game seems to be built around this "dodging" system and it works for a bunch of different bosses. The devs have been pretty quick to patch out anything that gives players an unintentional advantage, so I'd like to think that this isn't a glitch
Thank you! Noise is much better for dodging the green missiles, since you can consistently taunt every 2 seconds, with a basic attack Makima on the other hand, can only taunt after landing 120 hits, which is much harder to control When Biscuit comes out, I can imagine that she (replacing Diesel) would pair very nicely with either Noise or Makima
That would be an awesome QoL change! We can currently retry in the pause menu, or force close the app without using up any attempts, but having a mock battle (similar to union raids) would be better
@@SquishyRollingPanda yeah thats what i want to say haha,, thanks for the guide though maybe you can test biscuit to make new video for all intercept maybe
I can't dodge the missles. tried doing the video trick and it didn't work. Oh well. pretty dumb attack with the unavoidable missiles unless you exploit some bug or something. I'll just wait for the next day
It might take a few attempts, but it's definitely doable! My older guide goes a little more in-depth behind how to dodge missiles with Noise: ruclips.net/video/sKkNz1TuF8I/видео.html&t
Hope u create guides on train also with no scarlet, most guide on this boss always have it. ill appreaciate if u create a new one specially diff dps on this boss like drake or laplace as sub to starlet. nice guide btw, 1st time to know about that positioning thing on noise.
Thanks! I'll definitely look into alternate Scarlet-less team compositions. I have a strong feeling that a really geared up Guilty/Drake would be viable alternatives.
@@yehangyeo6470 I do have some alternative guides that might be helpful in the meantime: For my alternative Alteisen full clear guides with no iframing needed, check out the below! Noah + BIscuit: ruclips.net/video/L5OC-WM78ms/видео.html Ludmilla + Sakura: ruclips.net/video/ICTY2MXkjm8/видео.html
Ive been trying the dodging method for Noise and it doesnt work ive tried like 30 times now and no matter how much i count or try to look left and right or listen it doesnt work and im so frustrated what a shit ass boss man
IMO, the best taunt Nikkes for Alteisen are Noise and Noah - as the taunt triggers with 1 fully charged attack. I'd say Sin is next in line (last bullet triggers taunt). Makima is difficult to use, since the taunt only triggers after 120 hits (full mag, but may vary if you equip certain cubes) so it requires perfect timing. Unfortunately, I don't have Makima since I didn't really pull for her. I didn't think her kit was great and I'm just a light spender
This is by far the most difficult special interception boss out there! It's near impossible to raw dog DPS Alteisen early on. My recommendation is a balance between DPS and using a mechanic to survive the turrets & missiles. I made several videos to accomplish this, such as with: Ludmilla & Sakura, Biscuit & Noah, or Diesel & Noise
I did this. The turrets killed my nikkes before I destroyed em. All of my nikkes have T9 gears, Liter and Drake have 1 overload, and mid to high affection. Best I can do is stage 5. Probably skill issue. 3* Liter, 1* Noise, 2* Scarlet, 3* Drake, no* Dolla.
Looks more like a team comp issue vs skill. The major difference is that I'm using Diesel, who shares the task of tanking the turrets from Noise (see 05:18). Diesel needs to burst/taunt around when the turrets start to shoot - she and the rest of your team should live. You have quite a strong DPS line up, especially with your existing limit breaks. If by chance you don't have Diesel, I would substitute Dolla with a strong B2 DPS (such as Guilty or Rupee). You might be able to just power through and destroy the turrets, while Noise dodges the missiles
Thanks! I also have other Alteisen guides without noise. For my alternative Alteisen full clear guides with no iframing needed, check out the below! Noah + BIscuit: ruclips.net/video/L5OC-WM78ms/видео.html Ludmilla + Sakura: ruclips.net/video/ICTY2MXkjm8/видео.html
If it's the first set of turrets, ensure that Diesel is using her burst before the turrets start to shoot. Diesel will need a small about of levelled skills to help keep herself alive
Good luck! With these tricks, you should be able to get wayy past stage 2. Might take a few retries before getting used to the missile timing, but you'll be dancing with them in no time!
To echo what @T.S.Issac mentioned, your Nikke's stats will be automatically adjusted for all Special Interception bosses, as if they were level 200. The only other factor they didn't mention is each Nikke's "attraction level" - you can raise this through daily "advise" and gifts. If you currently have low level gear and other stats, I recommend focusing on dodging the missiles (detailed video here: ruclips.net/video/sKkNz1TuF8I/видео.html) Getting to the turret phase alone should get you to stage 3-5 rewards; anything above stage 1 can get you T8 gear. In any case, Alteisen is IMO, the most difficult special interception boss. Even with T9 and overload gear, it was the last boss that I beat, but hopefully this guide helps others!
All Special Interception Mission will Lock all of your characters to level 200. A lot of my friends are still not Pass Lvl 160 Wall, but they can finished Special Interception Mission, that's because your level is not important in here. Ah, but the Skill level is really important.
Scarlet is clutch for the last phase I think. I've been using this same team except Laplace instead of Scarlet and well... She's just worse than Scarlet at dealing with both the missiles and the red circles (I'd go as far as saying she straight up sucks for phase two) so it's all up to Modernia. But modernia by herself doesn't cut it I guess, at least not at my level of investment. So far I haven't been able to get past 8. Basically I can't deal with the missiles and the red circle at the same time. Maybe there's a better option than Laplace but she's my most invested attacker.
Agreed - that last phase of the boss can be tough. It's a careful dance between attacking the rockets vs the train - I failed and had to retry that portion a few times today. If you're using Laplace or other SG/RL characters, you can wait till the rockets get closer (i.e. more grouped together) before attacking them.
Gravedigger is annoying, but can be dealth with, the rest are easy. This damn train....I just gave up. I can do the Noise missles dance...but those gun turrets keep deleting my Nikke's. I also only just recently got Scarlet, don't think she is that much more effective then my Maxed out Modernia.
I'm with you there! The train boss was the last one for me to full clear and it took some time to get there. Triggering Diesel's burst right before the turrets shoot, will allow her to taunt and tank the damage (5:18). ムケエ commented a really good tip, about forcing extra widescreen resolution on PC. It will increase the FOV and make the turrets visible at all times, giving you more chances to destroy them earlier. A maxed out Modernia is amazing for pretty much any stage! It really depends on who your second DPS for Alteisen is, but I think long term (with skill and OL equipment investment), Scarlet cannot be out DPS'd.
@@SquishyRollingPanda My Modernia is Max Core, Max skills, and full T9 level 5 gear (no manufacturers). She does a lot, but unless I survive that turret/missiles phase...she get's deleted by a single attack from the turrets. But I'll try that timing thingy out next week.
You'll get there eventually! Anyone that finished 16-28 not long ago and got access to Special Interception shouldn't expect to full clear Alteisen for some time. There are some easier bosses that you can full clear first, such as Chatterbox. But you'll make progress for sure! Similar to how people make daily improvements when they fight Interception S Gravedigger
Yea, I dont know how to do this boss at all, wtf its just instakilling me all the time :D Even if I survive the missiles, the turrets just ik another one of my chars, nothing i can do about it, nobody can even remotely survive :D Gotta use my burst at the start or I just get killed by the big rockets, and then I dont have it for the turrets or anything and thats just me done.
With the current difficulty of Alteisen, I don't think the devs intended for Alteisen to be beaten without decent equipment, cubes, cores...etc. This is the special interception boss that people typically have the hardest time with, so I think that it is unlikely to beat Alteisen with T8 gear and below (only exception is if someone's team is full +7 core Nikkes)
This guide is intended to show different ways to overcome and survive Alteisen's attacks. In this case, using Noise + Diesel makes it possible, but as you imply, you still need enough DPS to fully beat the boss. Even without Scarlet or really strong DPS, this strategy will let you survive for longer and net you better rewards. Good luck!
One of my guild mates cleared Alteisen today with Modernia + Drake, so it's possible, but definitely harder without Scarlet. The non-Scarlet DPS will need to have high equipment/skill levels in order to compensate
Yeah, it's definitely tough since the RNG for T9 manufacturer equipment isn't exactly high, so there are very limited opportunities to get good drops. Hoping that my full set of guides on full clearing interception bosses help!
Ayaya left a helpful comment regarding the turrets: You can actually guarantee that the turrets won't hit noise. As soon as the the 12th green missile lands, immediately move into the attack position so that you can dodge the turrets. Dunno how that works exactly tho but it works for me 100% of the time. You can also try my other guide for Alteisen here: Noah + BIscuit: ruclips.net/video/L5OC-WM78ms/видео.html Ludmilla + Sakura: ruclips.net/video/ICTY2MXkjm8/видео.html
Check out 5:18 for my way to taunt + tank the turrets using Diesel. If you use Diesel's burst right before the turret shoots, you shouldn't die. MaJlblu also gave an awesome tip: At 3:07, instead of destroying the rocket launcher, I can focus attacking the remaining turrets on the left, while dodging the missiles instead ムケエ commented a really good tip, about forcing extra widescreen resolution on PC. It will increase the FOV and make the turrets visible at all times, giving you more changes to destroy them earlier.
I'm not bothering trying to get even halfway with this stupid boss anymore. It's a fucking waste of time without having specific stats on specific gear for specific units. Artificial difficulty at its finest. Practically every video I watch, I see the same two units: Modernia and Scarlet. Even with Red Hood and Snow White: Innocent Days, I still saw them. Like many others, Alteisen is the only boss that's giving me issues. I'd love to be able get through the beginning without having to use Biscuit, Noise or Noah. Throughout the entire time I've played this game, I've yet to see Diesel, Ludmilla or Sakura, unless there are other units who raise their own or allies' defense. For Pilgrim, I've gotten six Rapunzels, one Dorothy, two Noahs, three Red Hoods, two Isabels and one Harran. So frustrating.
If you recently got access to special interception, it's very difficult to make any progress on Alteisen. But I have some helpful team comps, aimed towards newer players that can help: Noah + BIscuit: ruclips.net/video/L5OC-WM78ms/видео.html Ludmilla + Sakura: ruclips.net/video/ICTY2MXkjm8/видео.html Diesel + Noise: ruclips.net/video/xyo8bJ_7HME/видео.html
@@SquishyRollingPanda I hope they remove ing this boss and everyone can fuck themselves until they fix this fucking fight from being impossible without exploits,
I definitely recognize that dodging with Noise isn't the easiest thing to do, so I made some alternative Alteisen full clear guides with no iframing needed, check out the below Noah + BIscuit: ruclips.net/video/L5OC-WM78ms/видео.html Ludmilla + Sakura: ruclips.net/video/ICTY2MXkjm8/видео.html
For my alternative Alteisen full clear guides with no iframing needed, check out the below!
Noah + BIscuit: ruclips.net/video/L5OC-WM78ms/видео.html
Ludmilla + Sakura: ruclips.net/video/ICTY2MXkjm8/видео.html
2:10 Explaining where the missiles land on either the left or right side is actually a great way to explain how the i-frame happens because the missiles are technically missing her
Thanks! I sometime prefer tracking missiles this way, since amidst all the on screen SFX, I sometimes lose count of the missiles and need to dodge based on the positioning alone
this is so hard but thank you for the guide, any and all information is a must when taking on this boss to try and clear stage 9
No problem! You can try out some of these other guides and team comps I made:
Noise & Diesel: ruclips.net/video/xyo8bJ_7HME/видео.html
Biscuit & Noah: ruclips.net/video/L5OC-WM78ms/видео.html
Here's the "no need to think hard" explanation at 2:15
If the missiles are targeting on the right it means you need to hide, if it's on the left then you need to change to attack position
Well put!
@@SquishyRollingPandahi squishy hope you read my comments, around a week ago i managed to survive Alteisen for 3 minutes, seems like you can trick the turrets to shoot the cover instead shooting at Noise ruclips.net/video/G5XnJdZ8GNc/видео.html i upload it but it's still kinda hard for the timings, can i get your opinion about it? Sorry video got cropped because battery at 5% and recorder suddenly stops recording
Awesome guide. THANKYOU FOR THE CIRCLES THEY HELP SO MUCH
Thank you for your support and watching! 😊
just the video I needed after finally getting my hands on noise - well done!
Glad it helped! 😊
I have issue that turret always kills my Noise.
I used to as well - this guide was made to address this issue!
Check out 5:18 for my way to taunt + tank the turrets using Diesel
Wait you have a noise?
thanks to this guide i beat the train in spicail interception for the first time thank you so much best guide out of all the ones ive seen so far.
So glad that you were able to beat the train!! 😁
And many thanks for your kind words!
Cleared it with this guide for the first time. Thank you.
Congrats on clearing the hardest SII boss! And thanks for checking out my guide!
You can actually guarantee that the turrets won't hit noise. As soon as the the 12th green missile lands, immediately move into the attack position so that you can dodge the turrets. Dunno how that works exactly tho but it works for me 100% of the time.
Awesome tip! Hope this helps others as well!
at 3:07 you may focus other turrets to the left, instead of destroying right rocket launcher
That's a fantastic tip & catch! If someone is lacking DPS, it would be better to focus down the left turrets first, since dodging the missiles are easy and doesn't rely on any burst skills
@@SquishyRollingPanda yeah, I don't have Scarlet and trying to do this strat. But turrets sometimes finish me before I finish them. Will try Diesel support
ruclips.net/video/NbndFKAAmcc/видео.html
@@M4L1y Pretty cool to see the i-frame in action. I have some guild members who also i-frame the turret, but the timing varies slightly based on what platform you play on - similar to what the person in your video mentions
@@SquishyRollingPanda I tried and did 59.6mln. Failed at 2nd phase and Noise got killed. Next time I'll try to beat him and will succeed for sure.
2nd try
There also Noise the double turrets which i always did
This making the II position can be used for Novel / Viper / or other II that helps your attacker
So you need to timing it right when the double turret shoot, Noise changed position
different FPS (mobile or pc) has different timing...
on pc i usually timing it as Noise got hit with the last green missile...
but she dodge the turrets (both turrets still alive but deal 0 damage)
then after the turret missed, focus on the turret, AND the front turret (most left in your aim) and keep dodging the green missiles
The drawback using this method is, your mental health
(i mean seriously lol)
ngl, just from today, i needed more than 45 minutes of restarting since i missed the timing of the turrets lol...
only 3x i successful dodge it into the phase 2... 2 times i failed and resetting on 2nd phase, the last time i cleared it...
Haha yeah, dodging the turrets were always something very difficult for me, so I made this guide (and the Noah + Biscuit video) as an alternative instead. Will also be releasing my Ludmilla + Sakura guide later this week
After watching some of my past recordings, I sometimes was unintentionally able to dodge it. But I have not been able to do it consistently, so I haven't posted a video to cover this. And as you mentioned, the framerate changes the exact timing which is super frustrating!
But I'm glad you brought this up! It's a unique challenge for those that want to try it out!
thanks a lot I didn't know about the visual pattern of the missiles this will be helpful
Another PC tip that allows you to destroy the 1st or even both Turrets on the 1st full burst(Depending on your dps) is to set your screen to widescreen resolution to increase your FOV.
This can be achieved by using Nvidia Control Panel or a similar program that allows you to customize your screen's resolution.
Awesome tip! I didn't know that I could force a widescreen resolution. There was definitely some downtime where I couldnt see the turrets and spent time shooting the train's body instead
where you buy skins or try before buying it i dont understand i have only just missions no menu
Click the "locked skin icon" in the mission pass rewards section, or go to Nikkepedia Costumes (Nikee icon in the bottom right -> Nikkepedia button in the top right -> Costumes tab). You can buy the costumes from there, or go to the cash shop and click the "hangar" icon
So, when the missile comes in pair, it's considered as one when counting to 4?
Yes, count them as one. As they will join back together and hit the same spot when the missile reaches the ground
I play on PC how can I make my scarlet take cover for her to reload? When I press space all of them are taking cover....
On PC, turn off auto shooting and simply don't shoot. Scarlet or whichever Nikke you're controlling will be in cover
Any replacement for Modernia? I have only 3* of drake, privaty
MLB Drake is very good!
Quick update after trying this. I was able to get to stage 7 for the first time. I was having some trouble destroying the turrets fast enough, but I guess I need to level up my Nikkes skills. Mine are at similar CP to yours, but my Scarlet is still only at 25k power.
Awesome that you reached a new stage clear high! Other little tricks on destroying the turrets from some of my viewers include:
ムケエ: (I'm paraphrasing here) If you play on PC, you can force an extra long widescreen resolution to increase your FOV, making the turrets visible more often/all the time
MaJlblu: At 3:07, I could focus on the other turrets to the left, instead of destroying the rocket launcher on the right
@@SquishyRollingPanda I will just keep leveling my Nikkes skill and affection for more DPS. One important that I did not do was using Modernia's burst first to delay the 2nd burst until the turrets were about to shoot so that the timing was better on my bursts. I mostly play on the phone, so just switching it to wide mode is enough for me. Timeauss used the exact strat on his stream today after he malded 3 hours using Makima and Biscuit and found this way easier than that strat lol. Biggest switch was the order and the timing was better. I hope he gives you a shout-out since a lot of us were saying that we saw this on your channel first.
@Masked Heretic Haha, I'm just checking out his VOD now - glad some of you guys shouted me out in chat, thank you! 😃
Doing some testing tonight with Biscuit + Noah and other comps. But I think Noise + Diesel is a solid choice, especially since most people should have Diesel.
Does Sin work ? or X rupee, or any other defensive character ?
btw this does not work with t8 gear lmfao, I can only get 1 stage out of those 9 stages
Sin may work against the green missiles - but it is all based on managing their ammo, as their taunt triggers only on the last shot. A more consistent replacement is Noah, since her taunt mechanic for basic attacks is the same as Noise.
Nikkes with a burst taunt, such as X Rupee can replace Diesel.
If you only have T8 equipment, I recommend focusing on dodging the green missiles (full length video here: ruclips.net/video/sKkNz1TuF8I/видео.html). Don't sweat getting a high stage clear on Alteisen for now, it is the hardest interception boss out of the 5.
Appreciated the guide. Went from dreadful stage 3 clears to full stage 9 clears after watching
Thank you for watching! And congrats on the full clear!
(Cool cats btw 😉- hoping to get one myself soon)
manage to dodge the missiles but failed 9/10 times on "surviving" or dodging the turrets.
Almost there!
Can you can also try out these other methods I put together (which require no-iframing/dodging):
Biscuit & Noah: ruclips.net/video/L5OC-WM78ms/видео.html
Sakura & Ludmilla: ruclips.net/video/ICTY2MXkjm8/видео.html
I literally cannot hear the 12th missile shooting out due to burst effects. How can I turn burst volume to mute?
You can try turning off "Skill Cutscene Settings" in the "Battle" options menu. Aside from that, I suggest visually tracking the missiles featured @ 02:10
Hi, thanks for the video, but could you help me? i can kill modernia, chatterbox, etc, no problem but this damn train I cant get past the turrets (BULLETS), I have my nikke at level 160 i dont have modernia, doro, scarlet. I have only redhood, alice, maxell, snow white, pepper and bunny, school girls (others but level 1 skills). I dont have overloaded gear either. thanks in advance.
As you get more OL gear (crystal modules) from the other bosses, it will help you beat Alteisen! The turret guns are essentially a DPS check - you need to destroy them faster than they can decimate your team
You're voice is perfect for narration. Woah!
Thanks so much for the compliment! 😊
I love these vids. You are the boss of Nikke. Panda-sama.
Appreciate it!!
I tried so hard on dodging the missiles, but somehow noise still got hit by the turret, but i pass the first phase, now on the second phase somehow my reload timing on scarlet and modernia is bad i cant clear all the missiles and diesel died, and so does the qte, i can tank the qte once since i still have cover left, but having noise died from turrets and diesel from phase two missiles make me unable to burst, resulting in a time up on reward tier 8
Yeah, the reloading can catch me off guard sometimes. When you have a chance, force your Nikkes into cover to make sure Scarlet is ready for the missiles/QTE in phase 2
i tried that but they got hit and died from the missile instead 💀
bro having wide screen is such a big advantage, i saw on yt that some guy only has like 67k power and able to defeat alteisen with a big goofy ahh long screen while me who has about 90k power couldn’t defeat it because of i cannot hit the turret far enough.
Haha for sure!
ムケエ mentioned that you can actually force an extra-widescreen via your GPU control panel settings, so you can hit the turret at all times
oh yeah i forgot to mention im an iphone user
Loved the video! and the explamnation. one question, for people who dont have litter what B1 nikkes could they use? again thank you and your previous vid helped me get the noise I-frame trick. in the End what was the T9 gear buff are you talking bout?
Thank you! Glad to hear that the videos are helping out!
As replacements for B1 Liter, it depends on what aspect of her you want to substitute.
N102 - Provides a decent attack buff on burst
Volume - Provides a faster burst cycle (+ crit dmg boost as a bonus)
The gear buff is from the Dev's note, March edition: nikke-en.com/newsdetail.html?content_id=6419c903a4684a4f1da814eab849341c17cf
"First, we plan to add a device in Interception EX that T9 manufacturer equipment can be randomly obtained....Moreover, we are currently preparing events in which Commanders can obtain extra rewards in Interception and Simulation Room within a specific time."
@@SquishyRollingPanda hopefully they dont make it Pay 2 Win kind
thx for this tip, i finally finish it
Love to see it! Amazing job!
For the taunt, can i use Noah instead of Noise for dodging green turrets? Since Noah's taunting is quite long.
Excellent question! The main issue is that Noah can't dodge properly, but there is a viable strategy using her. I cover this in my video here: ruclips.net/video/t14-ecyPp2E/видео.html
@@SquishyRollingPanda I see, thanks for the guide. Can't wait to use this tactic against this "Thomas".
I only miss owning Scarlet, is there a DPS whom can replace her? I also don’t have Harran
My top 5 candidates would be:
1) Modernia: BRRRRRRRR
2) Drake: All around excellent consistent DPS + skill 1 that buffs everyone during full burst. Decent burst generation due to SG
3) Guilty: Even at 0LB and 4/4/4 skill level, she deals tons of damage with her skill 1, as it leverages your strongest until
4) Laplace: Bonus damage when attacking boss parts. Insane damage when burst skill is activated. But burst must be timed properly, or else it is wasted (such as during phase 2 of the fight)
5) Snow White: With decent investment in her burst skill + timing + skill, you can hit all 3 boss parts at the same time (right between the 2 turrets and missile launcher) and do 3x the damage
@@SquishyRollingPanda great, I have Drake Core+1 with an Overloaded gear. Also have Snow White but I don’t think she’ll help with rockets raining from the sky 😭 but I’ll try that trick. Tysm
@@arielomardelgad1 No problem, good luck!
If you want try out snowwhilte and how to deal with the "rockets ranning" you can check out this video from Japanese youtuber: PESU MY
ruclips.net/video/XO_MkgTktbo/видео.html
@@senjo8169 That's a pretty cool vid! I never thought about dodging the rockets at the very beginning (since Scarlet's burst destroys them for me). You can even dodge the rockets during phase 2 of the fight!
Snow White's burst is pretty nutty, since you can hit the boss 3 times with 1 shot. With the right skill/equipment/LB investment, I've seen some plays go straight to phase 2 after 1 shot.
you must have scarlet or harran/ modernia to clear 2ed phase you can full wipe missles hit the circle and kill the next round of missles with a your full burst repeat
AOE bursts are definitely helpful for that phase. It's very similar to the start of the fight, where there are missiles you can destroy
Hey Panda, just wondering how you manage to affix your crosshairs to your mouse as shown in the video? I have to keep manually holding LMB and dragging my cursor from the bottom of the screen, which makes aiming a complete pain for this stage when it's so notoriously timing-sensitive.
Hello! Within the settings, go to the "Battle" tab -> Sync Crosshair and Cursor -> Toggle On
Cries on Noise-less but thanks for the guide. I'm always stuck at x2 HP.
If you have her, Noah functions very similar to Noise, in terms of her full charge basic attack taunt skill
@@SquishyRollingPanda That's even sadder, I don't have Noah also hahaha. My line up consist of Liter, Centi, Modernia, Rapunzel and Privaty. Though I have Makima and Diesel but the taunt is just way easier with Noise compare to the other two I mentioned.
Just use makima ez win for me. Just need a little bit luck on the turret and some good dps .
My team : Moder , Power , Makima ,Viper ,Liter (no need dodge trick on makima if u got around 24k attack nikke)
At least u have a better chance of getting Noise than me getting Scarlet, great guide, let me just pull up my 0.04%scarlet rate out of my bum hole. 😂
One of the best guides for the train. Noticed you haven’t made a new video for months. Hope you’re alright.
Appreciate it! Just hasn't been any content that I've been excited to make. Hopefully they'll add some new interception bosses soon though 😊
Thanks for this. I will try this next time. I already know how to dodge the missiles, but hadn't thought of a way to deal with the turrets.
My pleasure - good luck on your runs!
Is there a substitute of noise against atleisein?
Yes, please check out my other Alteisen videos!
Thank you sir, now I can get to lv9 special interception
Amazing! Glad you can get a full clear on the hardest interception boss!
I knew the situation was gonna be dire when it came down to relying on a literal bug/glitch to beat this boss
I do have some other videos which showcases how to use specific Nikke skills to beat Alteisen 😁
Noise no longer works. Tried today, never had an issue, and now missile launchers might select the first volley of 4, but it won't after that.
In short, the last patch inadvertently changed how taunting works, but it will be reverted. Essentially, once the red circles appear, the enemy has already locked on to a target and it will not change, regardless of any taunt mechanics.
Previously, you can use taunt right up to the point before the projectiles are fired. Devs will be fixing this
A really great guide thx you gained a new sub
Thank you - appreciate the support!
I was trying to do this for hours but had to give up in frustration. The small turrets kill Noise every time right after the first dodging part is over
You do still need enough DPS to kill the turrets eventually, as she can't tank for far too long. I made videos featuring other team comps for this boss that can help!
@@SquishyRollingPanda yeah, I'm back trying this boss again and the same problem persists even though I can break 1 of the turrets before they fire. The other one still 1 shots Noise
i dont have liter and scarlet, but i have the rest of the units that you shown can i still beat train to stage 9?
Scarlet is replaceable with other high DPS Nikkes, that have been invested in, such as: Laplace, Drake, Sugar
Liter is a bit tough. While N102 also has a team attack buff, Liter has the added benefit of reducing full burst cooldowns (i.e. more DPS in the long run)
Great stuff. Now, I finally understand how it works. Thanks for the video!
You're welcome!
idk why even after the taunt, the missiles still target random spots and my noise cant i frame all the missiles that are coming randomly and not 1,2,3,4 and so on
It sounds like since Noise didn't taunt from the start, it made the rhythm of the missiles harder to follow
Make sure to fully charge Noise's attack and hit the train before the green missiles are fired. This will ensure that she is taunting from the very beginning and it will be easier to follow the 1, 2, 3, 4 pattern
@@SquishyRollingPanda I did that
Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't
Well practice makes perfect
But I don't have much time on games lol
Guess I'll leave it casual
Never gonna defeat alteisen
I dont have noise, wich other can I use?
If you have Noah & Biscuit, Noah can taunt + tank - and Biscuit can provide additional invincibility. I have a video that explains this method here: ruclips.net/video/L5OC-WM78ms/видео.html
Just theory crafting, but Ludmilla + Biscuit may be possible as well. Your team will need to full burst (to activate Ludmilla's taunt) slightly before the first green missile spawns and do your best to dodge them. When the turrets start to shoot Ludmilla, Biscuit's invincibility skill should activate (provided that Ludmilla did not take too much damage during the green missile phase) while the rest of your team destroys the turrets
@@SquishyRollingPanda thank you!
Hi. ¿Can the boss be repeated even after defeated? For example in tribe tower one can not repeat a stage when cleared and doing one of these daily give points for rewards in mission pass.
Yes - you can fight the boss up to 3 times per day!
After your first attempt, you have access to the "Quick Battle" button, which gives you the same clear/rewards as your best attempt that day. Fighting the boss manually or using "quick battle" counts towards your mission pass progress, "Clear interception X times"
@@SquishyRollingPanda I appreciate you for taking the time to clear my doubts.
No problem!
I tryed.... still dont know how to difference good the turrets shoots... i feel i cna only difference them when they get almost hitting, hating this boss so much :c
For my alternative Alteisen full clear guides with no iframing needed, check out the below!
Noah + BIscuit: ruclips.net/video/L5OC-WM78ms/видео.html
Ludmilla + Sakura: ruclips.net/video/ICTY2MXkjm8/видео.html
Thanks man, I'll have to try it next time
Np, hope this helps out on your next attempt!
@@SquishyRollingPanda Just gave it a try, and it helped a lot. Thanks a ton bro!
@@KevinG_765 No problem - glad it helped!
Been trying so hard to defeat this boss so many times, nothing I do works. Noise always dies after the first burst. This game is harder than I thought.
It's definitely the most challenging boss IMO! Are you dying to the missiles or the turret?
@@SquishyRollingPanda Depends, it's either one. Even if she survives, the canons or the missiles will get her. Maybe I need to level up more and build my relationship. I've only been playing this game for a week. XD
Ah I see. I think you're fighting, "Level D: Altrisen MK.VI", which is the same boss, but with a more limited attack pattern.
New players will beat that boss eventually, as their team, skills, attraction and equipment levels up. But if you have characters such as Makima/Noah/Biscuit who have invincibility skills, it will buy you more time to destroy the turrets. Good luck!
@@SquishyRollingPanda Hmm.... thanks, I do hope that's true.
So diesel is good?
Yes, just for tanking the turrets!
It also good if you show gear,skill lvl etc.
cuz it's hard to replicate a run if you low in dmg i mean.. gear issue to be exact
Absolutely agree! That's why I always show these stats at the beginning, so everyone can compare and contrast
It’s impossible to clear whit purple equip ?
I'd say yes, it's impossible. But at the same time, if you just got access to special interception, it's not expected that can clear it
I can’t get burst fast enough to use Noise taunt. Maybe it’s issue because I don’t have Modernia, but still
Modernia actually isn't great at generating burst, but make sure you're spamming with Noise to help generate burst quicker
@@SquishyRollingPanda Oh, I didn’t got thit notification, anyway, Ludmilla-Sakura combo is helping me more, still thanks for reply
Glad to hear that the new combo works better for you!
Does this work on mobile or is this hack PC exclusive
Works on mobile as well
Must be doing something wrong on my end. By the time the second turret is down the missiles start to ignore Noise and just go straight for Liter. I'll figure it out eventually, thanks for the guide!
My pleasure!
Make sure that Noise is still using fully charged attacks. This will help ensure that after Diesel's taunt ends, Noise will take over
@@SquishyRollingPanda yeah, i took a few seconds to use my eyes and read that her ability works with full charge. I see now however that I'm just not winning out on the DPS race on the next set of turrets. Diesel sometimes also dies after the first turret goes down. Think I'll try my hand at pulling Sakura at this point.
My real question here is...do we really need to do this? is this intended? why do we have to glitch the fight in order to beat it? it would be better if they balance the damage output of the turrets and make the fight actually enjoyable.
That's a fair question - one that I've asked myself before as well!
I would imagine that the devs tuned the boss' difficulties, so that we make incremental process each week. Similar to my interception S experience, when I first got access to it, I barely made a dent. But each week, I received better gear, level, stats...etc and made more progress.
But to your point, Alteisen in particular feels VERY overtuned. With the indestructible green missiles, I can't imagine how much LB health/gear you need, in order to tank them. The whole attack/targeting system for this game seems to be built around this "dodging" system and it works for a bunch of different bosses.
The devs have been pretty quick to patch out anything that gives players an unintentional advantage, so I'd like to think that this isn't a glitch
Idk, i've tried this thing during 3 hours, and i still cannot do it, i'll skip this interception for now👍
Nice vid! Is it easier with Makina over Noise or is Noise better?
Thank you! Noise is much better for dodging the green missiles, since you can consistently taunt every 2 seconds, with a basic attack
Makima on the other hand, can only taunt after landing 120 hits, which is much harder to control
When Biscuit comes out, I can imagine that she (replacing Diesel) would pair very nicely with either Noise or Makima
I use Pepper, Scarlet, Modernia, Noah and Biscuit
Wish there are practice/mock battle really hard to do timing even do same formation
That would be an awesome QoL change! We can currently retry in the pause menu, or force close the app without using up any attempts, but having a mock battle (similar to union raids) would be better
@@SquishyRollingPanda yeah thats what i want to say haha,, thanks for the guide though maybe you can test biscuit to make new video for all intercept maybe
@@henoldpcllama In case you haven't seen it, I made a video featuring Biscuit: ruclips.net/video/L5OC-WM78ms/видео.html
I can't dodge the missles. tried doing the video trick and it didn't work. Oh well. pretty dumb attack with the unavoidable missiles unless you exploit some bug or something. I'll just wait for the next day
It might take a few attempts, but it's definitely doable! My older guide goes a little more in-depth behind how to dodge missiles with Noise: ruclips.net/video/sKkNz1TuF8I/видео.html&t
Can I use Noah instead of Noise?
You would need a separate burst 2 Nikke, since Noah's is 40s. Otherwise it should be doable
is there a replacement for scarlet?
Any of these, if invested can work: Maxwell, Alice, Laplace
Hope u create guides on train also with no scarlet, most guide on this boss always have it. ill appreaciate if u create a new one specially diff dps on this boss like drake or laplace as sub to starlet. nice guide btw, 1st time to know about that positioning thing on noise.
Thanks! I'll definitely look into alternate Scarlet-less team compositions. I have a strong feeling that a really geared up Guilty/Drake would be viable alternatives.
You can't run diesel and noise because missiles always target diesel so you can't
You can using either character. But my video shows that you can indeed run them both
@@SquishyRollingPanda Noise taunt broken because of latest patch. That's why I couldn't run it
Ahh, all taunt mechanics should have either been reverted or fixed soon. The devs acknowledged the issue in a past patch note
@@SquishyRollingPanda Perfect then. I was wondering why noise taunt wouldn't override diesel.
@@yehangyeo6470 I do have some alternative guides that might be helpful in the meantime:
For my alternative Alteisen full clear guides with no iframing needed, check out the below!
Noah + BIscuit: ruclips.net/video/L5OC-WM78ms/видео.html
Ludmilla + Sakura: ruclips.net/video/ICTY2MXkjm8/видео.html
Ive been trying the dodging method for Noise and it doesnt work ive tried like 30 times now and no matter how much i count or try to look left and right or listen it doesnt work and im so frustrated what a shit ass boss man
It's definitely a more difficult strategy to execute. Feel fee to check out some of my alternative strategies for Alteisen!
Can you do a video for Makima? His taunt is so hard to timing
IMO, the best taunt Nikkes for Alteisen are Noise and Noah - as the taunt triggers with 1 fully charged attack. I'd say Sin is next in line (last bullet triggers taunt).
Makima is difficult to use, since the taunt only triggers after 120 hits (full mag, but may vary if you equip certain cubes) so it requires perfect timing. Unfortunately, I don't have Makima since I didn't really pull for her. I didn't think her kit was great and I'm just a light spender
ive tried every "" tech or dps team for this an can barley get past 3 this boss is garbo
plus most others are full of pilgrim's like just get them lol
This is by far the most difficult special interception boss out there!
It's near impossible to raw dog DPS Alteisen early on. My recommendation is a balance between DPS and using a mechanic to survive the turrets & missiles. I made several videos to accomplish this, such as with: Ludmilla & Sakura, Biscuit & Noah, or Diesel & Noise
I did this. The turrets killed my nikkes before I destroyed em. All of my nikkes have T9 gears, Liter and Drake have 1 overload, and mid to high affection. Best I can do is stage 5.
Probably skill issue. 3* Liter, 1* Noise, 2* Scarlet, 3* Drake, no* Dolla.
Looks more like a team comp issue vs skill. The major difference is that I'm using Diesel, who shares the task of tanking the turrets from Noise (see 05:18). Diesel needs to burst/taunt around when the turrets start to shoot - she and the rest of your team should live.
You have quite a strong DPS line up, especially with your existing limit breaks. If by chance you don't have Diesel, I would substitute Dolla with a strong B2 DPS (such as Guilty or Rupee).
You might be able to just power through and destroy the turrets, while Noise dodges the missiles
very good and well explained but theres only one problem...
i dont have Noise :')
Thanks! I also have other Alteisen guides without noise.
For my alternative Alteisen full clear guides with no iframing needed, check out the below!
Noah + BIscuit: ruclips.net/video/L5OC-WM78ms/видео.html
Ludmilla + Sakura: ruclips.net/video/ICTY2MXkjm8/видео.html
the turrets keep getting me
If it's the first set of turrets, ensure that Diesel is using her burst before the turrets start to shoot. Diesel will need a small about of levelled skills to help keep herself alive
Me: So I need to Have Modernian & Diesel
Also Shifty: Nope
Ill try this next rotation, maybe i can finally get past lvl 2....
Good luck! With these tricks, you should be able to get wayy past stage 2. Might take a few retries before getting used to the missile timing, but you'll be dancing with them in no time!
@@SquishyRollingPanda Thanks man!
im sure u are above level 160, this cant work for anyone at the 160 wall, so wont be able to even get t8 gears
Level doesn't matter since ur lvl lock at 200 it really just gear and limit break
And levels of ur skills ofc
To echo what @T.S.Issac mentioned, your Nikke's stats will be automatically adjusted for all Special Interception bosses, as if they were level 200.
The only other factor they didn't mention is each Nikke's "attraction level" - you can raise this through daily "advise" and gifts.
If you currently have low level gear and other stats, I recommend focusing on dodging the missiles (detailed video here: ruclips.net/video/sKkNz1TuF8I/видео.html) Getting to the turret phase alone should get you to stage 3-5 rewards; anything above stage 1 can get you T8 gear.
In any case, Alteisen is IMO, the most difficult special interception boss. Even with T9 and overload gear, it was the last boss that I beat, but hopefully this guide helps others!
SI doesnt care about your level lol..its lock to 200
All Special Interception Mission will Lock all of your characters to level 200. A lot of my friends are still not Pass Lvl 160 Wall, but they can finished Special Interception Mission, that's because your level is not important in here.
Ah, but the Skill level is really important.
Scarlet is clutch for the last phase I think. I've been using this same team except Laplace instead of Scarlet and well... She's just worse than Scarlet at dealing with both the missiles and the red circles (I'd go as far as saying she straight up sucks for phase two) so it's all up to Modernia. But modernia by herself doesn't cut it I guess, at least not at my level of investment.
So far I haven't been able to get past 8. Basically I can't deal with the missiles and the red circle at the same time. Maybe there's a better option than Laplace but she's my most invested attacker.
Agreed - that last phase of the boss can be tough. It's a careful dance between attacking the rockets vs the train - I failed and had to retry that portion a few times today.
If you're using Laplace or other SG/RL characters, you can wait till the rockets get closer (i.e. more grouped together) before attacking them.
Gravedigger is annoying, but can be dealth with, the rest are easy.
This damn train....I just gave up. I can do the Noise missles dance...but those gun turrets keep deleting my Nikke's.
I also only just recently got Scarlet, don't think she is that much more effective then my Maxed out Modernia.
I'm with you there! The train boss was the last one for me to full clear and it took some time to get there.
Triggering Diesel's burst right before the turrets shoot, will allow her to taunt and tank the damage (5:18). ムケエ commented a really good tip, about forcing extra widescreen resolution on PC. It will increase the FOV and make the turrets visible at all times, giving you more chances to destroy them earlier.
A maxed out Modernia is amazing for pretty much any stage! It really depends on who your second DPS for Alteisen is, but I think long term (with skill and OL equipment investment), Scarlet cannot be out DPS'd.
@@SquishyRollingPanda My Modernia is Max Core, Max skills, and full T9 level 5 gear (no manufacturers).
She does a lot, but unless I survive that turret/missiles phase...she get's deleted by a single attack from the turrets.
But I'll try that timing thingy out next week.
where to get voice's bikini in the thumbnail?
Here's the artist! www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/104389787
Team with full T9 equipment
Me with T7 equipment : it is time to die, then😅
You'll get there eventually! Anyone that finished 16-28 not long ago and got access to Special Interception shouldn't expect to full clear Alteisen for some time. There are some easier bosses that you can full clear first, such as Chatterbox.
But you'll make progress for sure! Similar to how people make daily improvements when they fight Interception S Gravedigger
Yea, I dont know how to do this boss at all, wtf its just instakilling me all the time :D Even if I survive the missiles, the turrets just ik another one of my chars, nothing i can do about it, nobody can even remotely survive :D Gotta use my burst at the start or I just get killed by the big rockets, and then I dont have it for the turrets or anything and thats just me done.
I made a few video strategy guides on this boss, feel free to check them out!
I will, but I think its just a lack of skill issue :D@@SquishyRollingPanda
I'm new to special interception 😅
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I need a guide without tier 9 equipment
With the current difficulty of Alteisen, I don't think the devs intended for Alteisen to be beaten without decent equipment, cubes, cores...etc.
This is the special interception boss that people typically have the hardest time with, so I think that it is unlikely to beat Alteisen with T8 gear and below (only exception is if someone's team is full +7 core Nikkes)
This guide is next to impossible to use as not everyone is gonna have scarlet or certain units to use.
This guide is intended to show different ways to overcome and survive Alteisen's attacks. In this case, using Noise + Diesel makes it possible, but as you imply, you still need enough DPS to fully beat the boss.
Even without Scarlet or really strong DPS, this strategy will let you survive for longer and net you better rewards. Good luck!
I'm convinced that this is impossible without Scarlett.
One of my guild mates cleared Alteisen today with Modernia + Drake, so it's possible, but definitely harder without Scarlet.
The non-Scarlet DPS will need to have high equipment/skill levels in order to compensate
i have scarlett an its still impossible this boss is just awful design
I hate this is the only way to get T9 so unfun doing these interceptions.
Yeah, it's definitely tough since the RNG for T9 manufacturer equipment isn't exactly high, so there are very limited opportunities to get good drops. Hoping that my full set of guides on full clearing interception bosses help!
Damm i really don't know that i always get killed so fast
Ayaya left a helpful comment regarding the turrets: You can actually guarantee that the turrets won't hit noise. As soon as the the 12th green missile lands, immediately move into the attack position so that you can dodge the turrets. Dunno how that works exactly tho but it works for me 100% of the time.
You can also try my other guide for Alteisen here:
Noah + BIscuit: ruclips.net/video/L5OC-WM78ms/видео.html
Ludmilla + Sakura: ruclips.net/video/ICTY2MXkjm8/видео.html
1:15 floating gun really triggers me.
Ahh, I never noticed that!
I die to turret cuz im not killing it in time
Check out 5:18 for my way to taunt + tank the turrets using Diesel. If you use Diesel's burst right before the turret shoots, you shouldn't die.
MaJlblu also gave an awesome tip: At 3:07, instead of destroying the rocket launcher, I can focus attacking the remaining turrets on the left, while dodging the missiles instead
ムケエ commented a really good tip, about forcing extra widescreen resolution on PC. It will increase the FOV and make the turrets visible at all times, giving you more changes to destroy them earlier.
Looking forward to mini-Korone carrying my ass here
Haha, she'll definitely help out a lot of people!
I'm not bothering trying to get even halfway with this stupid boss anymore. It's a fucking waste of time without having specific stats on specific gear for specific units. Artificial difficulty at its finest. Practically every video I watch, I see the same two units: Modernia and Scarlet. Even with Red Hood and Snow White: Innocent Days, I still saw them. Like many others, Alteisen is the only boss that's giving me issues. I'd love to be able get through the beginning without having to use Biscuit, Noise or Noah. Throughout the entire time I've played this game, I've yet to see Diesel, Ludmilla or Sakura, unless there are other units who raise their own or allies' defense. For Pilgrim, I've gotten six Rapunzels, one Dorothy, two Noahs, three Red Hoods, two Isabels and one Harran. So frustrating.
Yeah, the RNG on Pilgrims makes that tough 😕
😂 on PC its easier than Phone, Train on Phone is Bullshit
100% easier on PC. This applies to most bosses - especially for some, it's easier to get a high FPS
even with a guide i cant beat this mofua , worst boss design in history
If you recently got access to special interception, it's very difficult to make any progress on Alteisen. But I have some helpful team comps, aimed towards newer players that can help:
Noah + BIscuit: ruclips.net/video/L5OC-WM78ms/видео.html
Ludmilla + Sakura: ruclips.net/video/ICTY2MXkjm8/видео.html
Diesel + Noise: ruclips.net/video/xyo8bJ_7HME/видео.html
I hate this stage.
It's definitely very well hated and the hardest of all special interception bosses!
This method is impossible now btw, Noise will die immediately
This method is still possible, as it was made after the patch Noise patch. It is a bit difficult to pull off though, given the narrow timings involved
I agree white you bro, it's unfair, i've tried the method during 3 hours._.
@@SquishyRollingPanda I hope they remove ing this boss and everyone can fuck themselves until they fix this fucking fight from being impossible without exploits,
Just straight up a bad Guide by sheer fact you need to do all this shit to even try to beat it.
I definitely recognize that dodging with Noise isn't the easiest thing to do, so I made some alternative Alteisen full clear guides with no iframing needed, check out the below
Noah + BIscuit: ruclips.net/video/L5OC-WM78ms/видео.html
Ludmilla + Sakura: ruclips.net/video/ICTY2MXkjm8/видео.html
I always got time out. Apparently I need to make my nikkes high level
Just invest in your Nikkes skill levels and equipment. Your Nikke level gets automatically set to 200, for special interception